Drag queen slams anti-trans discourse, Reform UK's rise, and lies behind the culture war 

This is something I've noticed too. When I was in uni and starting to try and talk to friends about potentially being trans - they just said 'Oh I love Drag Race!' as though it was the same thing. Back then - the idea of performing womanhood for entertainment and laughs was horrifying to me - who just wanted to not be stared at, and go about their day quietly.

Yes. Definitely creates/cements a “blurred narrative” for those uninterested in stepping out of their ignorance/bigotry. With media that is trans positive, they should definitely be speaking with trans folk, and drag artists, and trans drag artists. However, with the antagonistic “side” of the media, sadly the majority, I appreciate cis drag acts standing up and “taking the brunt”. I wish I could say “as long as trans folk were invited first” but I do not trust broadcasting bodies to even ask in a “non damaging” way. They can’t even manage “neutral”! Side note; I am always here for more Divina!

It doesn't help that so many times when you ask trans people to talk about things they either refuse or go off at everyone and weaken their points with ridiculous statements.

its only ignorance generally but it can mean the inquisitive learn the nuances , most press is bad press no matter who you are , if the media tax dodging moguls want folk to be anry at you they will but those who see the media and question it , they wise up

Pod save the UK have had some good interviews you may be more comfortable with.

in typical fashion its such a tiny minority... like what is it ~1% of the population? nevermind how difficult it is as an identity, from getting healthcare to the various rights hampered by being trans

@@ince55ant I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the true figure is about 5-10% if we removed the barriers you mention (and had a slightly more expansive definition, just like how we include bi people nowadays but back then most people only thought in terms of straight and gay).

We have to cover it to push back, silence is deadly.

Exactly and politicsjoe just feed into with this twoddle

​@@ryantate6447yep. I wonder how many people who thumbs upped my comment thought I was just referring to your Daily Mails and GB News'

She has said she’s part of the Trans community.

Isn’t Divina non-binary?

@@willowtdog6449 they may be but the average person falling for Daily Fail headlines won't understand that nuance. If Davina's being introduced as a drag queen then that's what average Joe public will latch onto which will feed into the already present anti trans bias.

I’m trans and a queen. I don’t think we should be making any compromises towards daily fail readers and we stumble into “pick me” territory when we say as trans people, that we don’t want queens representing us. We all share a common enemy and are fighting the same prejudices.

It's got nothing to do with "pick me", it's about sending clear, informative messages to counter the daily deluge of anti trans propaganda being pushed by pretty much all corners of UK media. Section 28 & the years of anti gay propaganda leading up to it was bad, what's happening now is far worse (look for the report "Tip of the iceberg" to see the amount of right wing money being ploughed into the anti trans movement). it says in the title "drag queen slams..." there's no mention there that they're trans. I only learned that part when I read it in comments, it was pretty much glossed over & ignored for the entire video. This isn't the first time Pol Joe has done this sort of thing. When you're fighting a powerful propaganda machine you need to pay attention to it & ensure the rare times we get to speak that our messaging is crystal clear & not feeding into the propaganda.

Ash Sarkar??

@@TheAArmstrong No bro Ash is not trans they have other female journalists lol

@@SquierMarr Just because she has a five o clock shadow, raised suspicion, I thought she might be a trans.

Helena @NoJusticeMTG

Not to mention it's a fraction of a percent that change their mind, and those are nearly all due to external pressure and not being accepted. It's my body, I know what I want and need to do to it. I don't need to be infantilised and have to prove myself.

@@Xentillus The general public really does not realise that it is quite literally low double digits in the UK, it's a fraction of a percent of a fraction of a percent of less than 1% of the population. In a study of 3,398 trans patients under the NHS' care, only 0.09% (3 people) detransitioned with no intention to retransition. Of that 0.09% it is statistically unlikely that most had even begun medical transition yet (given how absurdly long it takes and difficult it is to be able to start it under the NHS), and had only undergone social transition, which is obviously entirely reversible. The amount of permanent detransitioners, those who detransition because they aren't trans - rather than the overwhelming majority of detransitioners who do so only temporarily due to being forced to by transphobia in their living situations, who then go on to retransition later once safe - is vanishingly small (and I will add, should obviously be treated with all the care required to undo any medical transition in the case they've had any). Alas, we have to pay the price instead by being forced to wait for near-decade waiting lists + years of jumping through ridiculous hoops to prove ourselves to access treatment so we can simply live our lives, just in case of a regret rate lower than literally every surgery there is. (Which I must add, leads to the deaths of trans kids/teens, stuck trying to get treatment).

@@treeaboo On top of all of this, trans people as a whole have a suicide rate considerably above the national base line. But when you break it down, all of that is concentrated in "trans people who are unable to transition or access the help they need". Post transition the rate is back down to baseline (or lower). We live in such a society that is so actively punishing and excluding us that people (including kids) are taking their own lives at an astonishing rate. I consider myself so fortunate to have a support network and the funds to be able to access at least some private healthcare and therapy, I dread to think where my life would be in 6+ years on a waiting list with no help.

Males aren't female, and males do not belong in female-only spaces or activities regardless of how they feel inside, how weak they are compared to other males etc. To support the erosion of all female sex-based rights and protections is blatant misogyny.

i was just going to comment on that! so unprofessional

These were segments were taken from during the election night live stream so a lot of people in the room as part of a "special"

@@aaronmarsh4284 But these microphones can be regulated to the point you can suppress those noises quite well. I get that it might be a special night, but it was indeed quite distracting.

She identifies as Trans as well as a drag queen.

Males aren't female, and males do not belong in female-only spaces or activities regardless of how they feel inside, how weak they are compared to other males etc. To support the erosion of all female sex-based rights and protections is blatant misogyny.

Do you have any idea how offensive the "bloke in a dress" comment is?? Especially in a vlog about trans hate in politics!!

A bloke in a dress is not a trans woman. There's a whole world of difference.

@@sophiedolman2230 no but i donot find a bloke in a dress as offensive ,folk can wear whatever they like as far as im concerned , you should stop feeling threatened by it though

@@tomfinney3416 threatened by what??

@@sophiedolman2230 you found the phrase offensive it threatened you and your morality on trans gender , you even went full on exclamation marks lol , but its just a bloke in a dress granted he wears makeup , there really isnt anything offensive about me being literal

First they came for the "cis" white men, or was it the boomers?

Yes this is how it works exactly, and people don't understand. All oppressions are connected.

​@@test-bu8sw Who came for them and how did it manifest itself ? What restrictions have been placed on you ?

@@dondoodat The same restirctions that have been places on the trans community...absolutly fucking none. However to many from other groups they are seen as the oppressor.

@@dondoodat The same restrictions that have been placed on Trans people....absolutely none. Who came for them, the same boogeymen that comes for eveyone else apparently.

This was during election night, that's why there's a lot of people in the studio behind the camera.

There are clear black and white answers. Discrimination is not an opinion to hold. The medical care of transpeople has been proven over and over again to be safe. Taking into account that yes, there can be side effects, but that those are considered a well-known, well-discussed (with the transperson and the parents of said transperson if the transperson is a minor) trade-off compared to not-treating someone. The mere fact you are saying this is a subjective subject with no clear black and white answers, clearly shows how a part of the political spectrum has been successful in abusing the knowledge vacuum most members of the general public has. They created the idea that there are both sides to this issue and that they should both be taken equally serious. Which is simply not true: Transpeople are getting murdered, physically beaten, harassed, bullied. Not cis-people. Cis-people are only asked to simply be tolerant, exercise a form of respect. But in their eyes, that is perceived as a threat, as something that means they are going to loose some of their rights while we gain more than them.

@@Dutch3DMaster ywnbaw

It's essential to protect minorities. Failure to protect minorities will ultimately lead to you losing your rights too. The precedent set by anti trans legislation in this country is leading to deaths of queer people not only here but overseas as well. It is also negatively impacting all patient rights in the NHS which could lead to dismissal of patient autonomy for under 25s on treatments that aren't trans related. There are organisations who have seen the recent legislation and want to apply it to birth control and abortion under 25. So yeah...

@@StephMcAlea Agreed on both counts! 😄

The right are always wrong. It's their unique selling point, being completely incompetent, spiteful, intolerant and in almost all cases their IQ is insufficient for learning any new tasks or absorbing new information past the age of 14. They're like vegans in that they'll announce their low IQ in public every time they open their mouths. It really is quite remarkable. The modern day dunce hat wearer.

no, but they’ve got some answers and are at least putting some solutions out there. the right offers nothing

​@aaabbc379 there you go then. Some answers is not good enough. Action speaks louder than words.

@@pjmlfc05 some answers is better than nothing. that should be obvious

​@aaabbc379 not necessarily the right answer though are they? We don't need left or right, that is division. We need someone aligned to the middle.

Your comment is the thin end of a wedge. I sense the longer it goes on the thicker it'll get.

@@dondoodat 😂

Because he's a disingenuous PoS who has to create a false narrative.

@@django3422 Know him then? Or are you just following your average BBC 'Russia Are The Real Enemy!' rhetoric. Don't like the fact he hates child abusers? Mmmm.

@@django3422 I'm sorry, but my reply has been deleted. Your type are obviously being protected.

​@@stevejones3868It wasn't deleted, just filtered. I can see it clearly. No, I don't know Putin and I don't need to. He's been pushing the whole false narrative conflating LGBT people with child abusers for a long time, while never presenting any evidence that supports his claims. Quite the contrary, we know that children are at far greater risk from religious figures. He's just using identity politics. No, I don't follow any BBC rhetoric. Russia has proven itself through its own actions. And "my type"? You assume a lot but clearly don't know anything.

That's a very odd characterisation of reality. What he said was trans women subject to abuse should be given their own safe space away from cis women in a woman's refuge centre. It's a rather odd statement because women by default are in their own space in the refuge and don't have to mix with other women, regardless of any of them being trans or not. It is you who are abusing trans women in order to have a pop at Starmer, which quite clearly makes you look far worse. It's called projection, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

This is the same guy who flew to the states to personally apologise because he couldn't extradite an at risk autistic, starmer is no friend to any community he's a political chameleon he changes colour to suit his mood

@@badgers1975 All everyone hears is "wahh wahh Labour wahh!"...

You'd need to find an anti-trans voice that doesn't have strong links to white supremacists.

@@django3422 why is that? to fit into what you percieve as acceptable speech?

@@firestarter1888 Call me weird, I don't think it's good to platform white supremacists. Why, do you?

@@django3422You seem to miss the whole point of living in a democratic country.

@@firestarter1888 Democracy means governance by representation. What about that means we should platform white supremacists? And do you agree with platforming white supremacist views?

Individual liberty is always top of the list of the national interest.

It's even easier than that. A woman is an adult, human female.

@@imnottellingyoumyname3050 Define all three of those terms?

For balance, it is factually correct. As it is factually correct that most cis women aren't anti-trans, that cis lesbians are the most trans-friendly demographic, and that cis straight men are the most transphobic demographic by far.

Awww did the fact that some people like to dress different hurt your feelings little human?

You're in a small minority yourself, in that you can't control your offensive behaviour and so legislation is required in order to control you where your parents never did. It's also interesting that people such as yourself have an obsession with little boys in dresses. You're going to end up on a watch list if you're not already on one.

​@@lazorr3260That's not why im annoyed. You are asking me to accept a lie. And if I don't go along with the lie I could potentially find myself in jail. Wear what you want, I would say its none of my business. But these people insist on making it my business.

@@jim-es8qk how?

​@@lazorr3260A woman can't have a penis. It's a lie. In alot of people's mind that is what the debate is about. The quest for the truth and freedom of speech.

Because with everything going on in the country there are politicians suffering a massive brainrot and think that this is the more important issue to talk about. There is now a person exposing the lies of the current political landscape, which is why that person is a guest and talking about this, and explaining why it's such a mess. We saw the same in The Netherlands. We have one of the worst housing crises ever, we are suffering the results of climate change, we are suffering a breakdown of healthcare due to staff shortages due to the administrative workload, low wages, we are seeing similar problems in education, we have an immigration crises. (This last thing by the way being the result of our former right-leaning government continue to push the problem ahead of them for years). But nope, at the 15th of February, within 1 month of forming a House of Representatives, a party decided to show who they think are causing the ACTUAL, REAL problems in The Netherlands. They filed motions meant to target less then 0,000006% of the population EACH year. Not to improve their lives, of course not: to bully them, and scare them. And of course it started with them worrying about the safety of transchildren...

Its not like this is the only topic this channel is covering.

Divina uses she/her pronouns, as far as I know, even when she’s not “dressed up”. That’s a valid GQ/NB/bigender/androgyne experience (haven’t looked into the word she prefers) and isn’t any less trans. Now, would I love to see an even wider range of trans people come on? Absolutely. We should have an all-trans podcast with 3-4 trans panellists (including the host)!

Journalists cannot force anyone to talk publicly about any subject, especially when the English public is full of haters on all sides of the political abyss. Divina is a heroine.

Hi. I am part of the trans family. X

@@DivinaDeCampoTV oh excellent, you have your own channel! Please let me know if you’d like me to amend my comment in any way x

​@@DivinaDeCampoTV There is no trans comminuity or lgbtq community for that matter , its just people believing they can speak on behalf certain self imposed paramaters, if it were to exist it would also include Douglas Murray and Ariel Pink. Unless they are tthe wrong "type" of alphabet people.

Many people do, including people hostile to Trans people. You do too, or you wouldn’t be throwing invectives about ‘get help’.