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factual 💀90% of the journey to the west after the full party is assembled is just sun wukong going "hey yall dont listen to those people who are obviously demons in disguise" followed by zhu bajie looking at xuanzang going "but what if we DO listen to those obvious demons because wukong is an asshole and a liar" then xuanzang replies "youre right, wukong IS an asshole, this is definitely just a regular old woman out here miles from civilization" then xuanzang gets kidnapped when wukong isnt looking, zhu bajie and sha wujing arent strong enough to help him, they call sun wukong, he turns demons into paste with his cudgel, and they repeat it all a few days later💯 (and every once in a while when youre lucky the demon cant be turned to paste so wukong goes and asks guanyin or the buddha for help, then returns and fixes the problem anyway with a special tool, usually sending the demon thats actually just like a god's pet ferret or something that escaped back to heaven and still repeating) Love the journey to the west, but it admittedly gets repetitive at times lmao
Honestly, I don't hate the Para Para Brothers, their gimmick isn't that annoying to me, "I'm weak but can do a goofy dance that can make anyone, no matter how strong, join in", feels very Dragonball to me
Yes. Frankly I wonder about people who don't understand that the point is they're a non-physical threat, and that they're intentionally goofballs like that rabbit guy who got sent to the moon.
Sometimes I prefer when a character has a unique super power/method of fighting over the times a character is just more powerful than the last guy they fought.
The Para Para Brothers dance scene is another perfect example of where Piccolo would have been a far more helpful party member to bring along, as they could have used him to resolve that bit by repeating the plot beat from Lord Slug where he rips his ears off, and then have him close his eyes so that he wasn't affected.
as long as it's done as the episodes release and not going through this whole series in one go, you'll survive to whoever is reading this, you've been warned
As Mistarefusion pointed out in this section, they like to play hot potato with who the main bad guy is here. First it's the big Para Para brother. Then it's the prayer leader. Then it's the whip itself. Then the yellow gloved hand. Then it's Lood. Then Dr Myuu. Then baby. We don't know who's in charge throughout most of this, but they want us to believe all of them are
well granted Myuu is the overall big bad of this arc, Baby's more a seperate thing that myuu lost control of. Kinda sorta simialr to how the androids were handled by not by a massive extent.
@@tehesprite502 right. I remember hearing that too. You'd think it was Dr Myuu, but then Baby says "it was I that mind controlled him to create me." And everyone is like "why? It was fine as is. You just made it worse by overcomplicating it" lol
That kinda worked for me. Especially with dragonball protagonists not generally being the most research & scouting oriented. Maybe in a series where figuring out the enemy’s plan & outsmarting them was the name of the game, it would matter more to me to have the villains more set up. But with goku & co. on this poorly planned adventure, I think having this unclear cascade of “big bad”s works. Might just be me though 😅 I do have a soft spot for GT because I think it has better ideas than DBZ, it just executes them a lot worse…and that ending might be the most touching thing in the dragonverse.
Another reason why having Piccolo instead of Trunks would have worked better is that he could have acted as a lore master. This Lood guy would have been a lot more interesting if Piccolo or someone described his relationship to the Dragon Balls in the form of an ancient legend.
woulda been cool if it turned out the statue is the evil half of the eldest namekian who grew so powerful and made so many wishes that the only way to stop them was to petrify them into into a statue cause they hadn't protected themself from that yet, or something to that ilk
With how akward the tone is in this show, Goku kind of comes off as a sociopath who's just here for the ride and waits until things get difficult-enough that he has to try. Like, the way he just says "Huh, Pan just left" and laughs at the electro-shock, idk it just comes off as he enjoys the pain LOL
considering how this would technically be after super if it were canon i agree with the above reply that maybe he just wants to feel something, anything
This is why I can't stand it when people say GT Goku was "more serious and mature" than Super Goku. Super Goku may be a moron, but he's actually engaged in the plot. GT Goku just... exists. He doesn't give a crap about anything until he's contractually obligated to fight, and then he wastes time CONSTANTLY while fighting. Even more than usual. It's obnoxious and absurd.
The thing that I will never get over about Dragon Ball GT is how does anybody else in the entire universe know about these Dragon balls? These Dragon balls have been on Earth in a hidden closet for centuries and everybody just happens to know what they are in the vast universe? Even if they knew about Dragon balls in general, how would they know which Dragon balls go with which set? Also, if a Dragon Ball radar detects Dragon balls across the universe and there are multiple sets of Dragon balls across the universe, why aren't there multiple signals being set off for multiple sets of Dragon balls? I don't understand this show.
With the Dragon Radar, I'd say that's range, even in OG DB when they can't see the final ball after the Red Ribbon saga, they wonder if it flew off into space where they couldn’t detect it As for why everyone knows about the Dragonballs... I'd guess the Freeza Force remnants might have spread urban legends around the universe, since they overheard the original discussion about them on Raditz's scouter
"Someone had a lot of ideas, and didn't know how to fit them into six episodes." But why all the padding? Eh, it's GT, they probably didn't think too hard on it. "How about the whip transforms into a Ridley Scott alien?" "Eh, sure, why not."
But Mr.Dfrose. You gotta support the official release. I'm now remembering because of that joke, That GT the complete series was the first big purchase I ever made a child. Having used all the loose change and Christmas money I collected over the years
@@fragile4408I used to buy bootleg VHS tapes from Chinatown around 1997-2000 with random Japanese Dragon Ball GT episodes. They were recorded from whatever Japanese station aired them in the 90s, sometimes had commercials even. I couldn't find the vast majority of episodes, plus it has no subtitles and I was like 10 so I had no idea what was going on in the show but I spent every penny I had on them. My friends would come over to watch too, it was great. GT actually used to get a ton of hype because nobody had seen it. We would talk about how cool SS4 was at lunch
I still vividly remember the day I got vicious food poisoning and Toonami was playing this arc. Needless to say, it didn't help how I was feeling at all.
Here in Brazil our satanic panic bled to the early 2000s, and it was very cool to have both "SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!" and what in portuguese was "Lord Almighty, Great King, Yaka Yaka Yaka, Ludo!" both happen in Dragon Ball. Mom was not happy, really.
Goku is pretty great in this show I’ll say. Dude’s just having fun in the background most of the time and then just kinda blows up monsters when he has to. I like how he doesn’t even fight the lion, just shoots the ceiling and drops a boulder on it.
Hi, guy who works for a grain merchant here. In the sponsor segment with the corn ring snacks you mention that Funions aren't made with corn. Presumably they're made with Maize (I'm British so we don't have that brand here but we have similar products), which is just another name for Corn so the Japanese snack is basically just a Funion, although the flavouring and preparation are likely different enough to be worth trying.
here I was thinking funyuns were made with onions. must be like pickled onion space raiders or monster munch then, which are both also maize/corn, though maybe not as mouth-dissolvingly potent
Depending on the Star wars space worm is exactly the creature you're describing. From the knights of the Old Republic comic they went into more detail about it and how it just kind of floats around in space until it hits a planet and then it eats it
Weirdly if you think about it, Goku's role of sitting around in the background only to solve the problem in the end... kind of fits with Sun Wukong's role in Journey to the West? Like, not *entirely* and it doesn't make GT *better* by any means, but it's neat to think about.
Lood: The other Dragonball is with the people you just took the other Dragonball from, right on their ship hidden in this compartment. Now figure out what to do with that little information! Everyone else: ...How did you know about the parts you weren't there for?
Lani: Could be neat, a giant Sci-Fi worm that once they infest the planet they eat it from the inside out like an apple Thats Lavos, Lani. You just described Chrono Trigger
I remember not liking Giru, so I guess that's partly why I liked GT Pan as much as I did. I remember being like "that's what you get you stupid robot" half the time Pan would pick on him. Aside from that, I thought Giru was a great addition to this slapped together group where I agree Trunks was put in a role that doesn't suit him at all (playing the straight man/responsible one).
See, the way they're describing it, it actually sounds really interesting. I feel like the seeds of something really good were here, especially if you added some extra worldbuilding like they came up with for those worms. Like, just as an example, maybe lord Lood has the power of psychometry and can see the "pasts" of the items he touches, so that's how he knew that Goku and co. had another dragon ball. Explanations like that and better pacing might have actually made this a really fun show. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd love to see the TFS crew abridge GT and take a crack at re-pacing and altering it into something more fun.
I like how Goku's method of taking out that robot lion is probably one of his cleverest strategies to date. Nope, no prolonged punchfest here, just collapse the ceiling on your enemy and that's that. Guess turning into a kid helped him regain some of the brain cells he lost in Super, lol. 😂
Once again, a story arc that would be approximately 5 minutes long if Vegeta had been around for it. He not only kills the villains, he also kills the narrative fluff.
Really don't see were people got the idea that he was afraid of worms. All he said when seeing them in Buu was "i'm going to be sick" then he proceeded to blast them away. Being disgusted by something doesn't make u afraid of it.
Well I dont know in English but I remember seen it in latino spanish (better translation), and he said: I dont like disgusting things like worms (obviously in latino spanish) with the same panic face Goku makes everytime he sees a needle
Btw, you guys and your work is a form of self care for me. Watching DBZA is mental health treatment. I would be mentally much worse off without your work. Thank you, you may have saved my life. I discovered you during a very dark, covidy, mom might die-y time.
Those worms look like curl grubs, which eat the roots of lawns and eventually evolve into beetles which THEN eat the top of the lawns. Truly a frightening inspirations for a Dragon Ball monster.
Lani, my guy, can I just say that you look good with the glasses. We are well and truly into the episodes that I never saw. Also, there is technically (Sorry for what is basically an "Um, actually" bit) a race of space worms like that. They're called bholes (I think) from the Lovecraftian Mythos and that's basically what they do.
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really glad y'all went into the whole thing about Giru and Pan's relationship dynamic. I always thought it was weird and uncomfortable and I'm glad to see it's not just me lol.
It's like Dragon Ball GT was trying to recapture that original Dragon Ball energy with its focus on comedy, silly characters and even sillier enemies, where power levels weren't really a thing, but failed. So instead of trying to understand what went wrong, they panicked and cranked the lever in the complete opposite way and went full DBZ, focusing on action, crazy powerful enemies and the power level creep, culminating in SSJ4.
Yeah, the early episodes of GT are so damn weird. The Para Para Brothers are the only part of the pre-Rildo/Baby stuff that I actually remember, and thats because their gimmick is actually kind of cool and interesting.
in one of the earlier episodes, the boys were complaining that the characters "forgot how to fly". but i just now realized something. it's not that they couldn't, it's that they DIDN'T. “well duh. the question is: WHYYYYYYY?!?!?!?” i mean, isn't it obvious? they were trying not to get caught by the authorities. obviously SOMEONE would've spotted “three strange, person shaped, flying objects in our airspace”. the police of that planet would've shown their spotlights in the air to find them. which they inevitably would've. or hey! maybe not!! either way it leads to two outcomes. 1. our trio get caught faster. speeding up the pace. 2. they actually escape. leading to a search mission and plot progressing... "differently". not faster, not slower, but in a slightly different direction.