Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | History of Trunks 

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He killed it in this one!

ALL OF THE FLOWERS!

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My thought exactly

I mean, he can instant transmission from the Afterlife to Earth, I’m sure he could do the reverse and wipe out a buffet table before someone forced him to go back

@@Abdega The real question I've always wondered is "who could force him to go back?" By the time he could IT back and forth, the presence of any being strong enough to force Goku to not come to Earth would have solved any problem Goku would have needed to go to Earth to solve. Not only that, but Goku would have done it just to have someone strong enough to fight

The things that could bring Goku back from the afterlife: 1. Delicious food 2. A strong opponent 3. Intense training 4. Muffin button Things that won’t bring him back: 1. His family 😬

He broke out twice in the movies because of Gohan and Goten. So depending on what he loves more......

Except for Sean the voice of Goku

@@justarandombluebird8222 Well they can't all be winners.

​@@justarandombluebird8222I believe the reason was because of how they depicted Goku initially, which even the teamfourstars crew agreed wasn't the best initially since they leaned too hard on crutches like "make him a jerk here." 🤔

Did you know Lani actually voiced Vegeta in a DBZ game? I believe it was xenoverse 2

​@@mikespalaceofdowntime4773 he 100% did not

I never seen kaiser looked so offended lmao XD

That’s the ultimate "WTF?" face

Kaiser was like “oh can we not!!” 😂😂😂

I’m imagining it’s the same mental scream Trunks had when Bulma said “I’ll be your mommy.”

Makes me fucking sick

If I remember correctly; it took Goku 2 days flying at max speed (no sleep) to make the journey from King Kai's to King Yamma's palace to get sent back to Earth. So Goku's sensu was critical.

So maybe Gohan would've gotten his arm back down the elbow... EDIT: And they mention that part after I un-paused...

Didn't Trunks do that in Super? The kiss that made people hate Goku's stupidity more?

​@@game84cubeI think people's hate is undeserved. My take on the original read of that scene was that Goku was referring to never having done a mouth-to-mouth senzu bean thing. But Vegeta and the other characters took it as him having never kissed someone before. But maybe I'm just being too generous to the writers of that scene.

@@Felix.Dragon. an easy fix should've just been "Kakarot, you're married. You never did that before?!" "What? Spit food into her mouth? Are we supposed to do that?!" "You-...oh...n-no, not that, you moron." "You have a weird family, Vegeta." "Shut up, Kakarot!"

Holy shit that's dark 😂😂😂😂

So, we’ve decided on what the most cursed timeline is

O O F

@@warlordofbritannia we can make it more cursed by having it also be the timeline that includes the cut scene where Gohan and Bulma WOOHOO

Cell: I’m from the ‘Daddy’ timeline ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I think it also adds a valuable beat of timing before that particularly funny last sob because of the scene audio being ducked for his voiceover. Even if on the page it seems like too much, the way it flows works better than if it weren't there.

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You are the best!!

Aggressive positivity is the best positivity

_"You are amazing, I want to hear you say it, you are amazing"_

You are hilarious and I will quote everything you say!

Their riffs make it really obvious why this show worked so well

I didn’t even think of the implied father son dynamic.

What about the Power Pole and Flying Nimbus?

@@bluecanine3374power pole currently keeps the lookout in place, so no on that one. As for Nimbus, wasn't gohan already shown to use it before? He's probably just faster flying and wouldn't need it.

@@lizard1255 Yup, gohan already has access to the nimbus if he ever felt like using it. Even used it to get to school during that high school into great saiyaman arc, and Gohan later gave it to Goten but that last part isnt really relevant. Basically though Goku had already given the nimbus but yea they fly faster when its a serious situation

​@@bluecanine3374Nimbus doesn't really... belong... to anyone... it just lets people ride it. Like a giant cat xD

I like the idea that Gohan didn't even GET it from Goku because Goku died too early to give it to him. So he just... took it after a while and sarcastically said "thanks, dad"

Ikr going through those filler moments with chi chi always makes me crack a smile. I sometimes just go and chill at chi chi’s whenever I go AFK to make it seem like trunks will keep checking up on her like she’s a second mother

​@@scorpionflame6That's actually precious, OMG

@@sonicfan3230 legit

Future Trunks didn't get a dad, but he's got two mums. That's really sweet.

@@Morhek ikr

and neither gohan or krillin made any point of not being fully healed... I wonder how much of a senzu you need to eat to fully heal

Their bodies were still damaged and they were sluggish if I remember correctly. Half a bean likely restores stamina and minor wounds. I imagine only a whole bean can restore total vitality.

@@davecraft5404 Yeah usually a bean makes all their bruises and stuff marks go away. After this scene you can still see they're visually beat up. They probably got 1/2 healed.

@@davecraft5404 vegeta looks worse after eating a full bean on namek.

@@alicepbg2042 I had to look it up but you’re right. It was probably overlooked in that case, or he’s just covered blood from his last fight. Either way it’s still noticeable that Krillin and Gotham carried themselves differently than being fully healed. They looked and acted hurt.

So true and I can understand 100% how you feel... for me it was the tv show Supernatural, we were both huge fans and my bff died shortly before last season from cancer... watching that season and especially the ending she never got to see or hearing the famously associated song "carry on my wayward son" was/is... hard 🥲

Given how Mr. Briefs offered 16 a Gatling gun (at least in this telling of the story), I like to think that Bulma offered but Gohan declined. Could’ve been a pinch of Saiyan pride, could’ve been that ki wouldn’t gel well with a robot arm, who knows; I just like the minor parallel.

​@optimistprime3192 He's been fighting androids so long he probably hates becoming like them

​@@specialnewb9821Ooh, that's a good explanation!

​@@specialnewb9821 This is now my head canon.

Yeah I’ve noticed that too. They’re all really hard in themselves but especially Kaiser. I understand criticizing your work but he should be very proud of all his work throughout the series.

@@CEJRAIDDBZA is top tier. Kaiser should be absolutely proud of it. I was still in college during the original run and it was the best part of life back then. Hell some people were still in school and grew up with it, this was before Super became a thing too, so there wasn’t any new dragonball content at the time to fill the gap after GT had ended.

She found him on that mountain when he was ten and he never let her down, ever. Her love and faith in Goku was lifelong.

Every super ironic person needs to learn to validate, otherwise you end up being a jerk by accident.

Kaiser needs that poor guy is too hard on himself

@@Carbon4004I think the fact All of your comments are “They obviously don’t like taka/guy in the middle” proves that it’s not THEM who hate taka but YOU who hates taka

@@Carbon4004 parasocial creep

@@Carbon4004 Don't fucking speak for me? He's my friend; I just have trouble taking praise and my energy doesn't always match Taka's.

to be fair my mom just had her 29th 29th birthday which is really funny since both of her kids are in their 30s now

DB Super made that statement more than just a joke. It's now canon that if Bulma had the dragon balls she would in fact "be 37 for 10 years". TFS actually ended up nailing her personality with that line.

I mean Super Hero kinda makes that work

The fact they just came up with that joke on the spot goes to show how amazing they are.

Yeah, it's one of my favourite jokes. It's delivered so deadpan after such a silly moment.

Fuck it I'll buy it

That's arguably the best TFS timeline if you really think about it though. The Androids are gone and Cell left after killing Trunks. Yes, it leaves Earth without defenders, but if you think about the people that are rebuilding the world and the fact that Bulma's super genius ass is still there to help with that effort there would eventually be a renaissance for mankind. I'm assuming that her grief will pass quickly by that time because she's already lost everyone else and is very much an In-Action, take the initiative kind of person. Also throw in the fact that Master Roshi and Ox King are still alive in that timeline and there's still hope for Earth to gain new defenders through their training. Now if only they had a way to stop Babidi in the Canon timeline Humanity would be good. lol

@@DeathsPit00 Worst timeline for the heroes, arguably best for whatever few survivors are left outside that group

Yup that works for me.

​@@DeathsPit00babidi can't do anything cuz there's not enough strength on the planet.

@@shawnsuckstm3353 Fr, I haven’t watched Doctor Who in so long (kind of lost interest thanks to the recent seasons) but this episode reminded me of how hard the music in the tenant run went

Gohan's death hit the hardest in the original and they made it even better

@@lonewolf9578 Thankfully, the previous writer that wrote 13's story isn't there anymore, and RTD is back.

This and also the original is dumb

Even the use of Four Knocks at the start made it simultaneously both heartbreaking and hilarious.

Fangirl?

Fucking same here, it feels like Scott is reaching from within his own heart and just pouring it ALL out and letting all the anguish and rage out from the deepest parts of his soul. Still gets me in tears.

Same, but it kinda hits me harder every time. I'm so glad they let themselves take some moments seriously while making all this stuff.

That scream has laid this 45yo man, every time. I legitimately start crying for Trunks every time.

I'm pretty sure he at least owned the land they lived on, since it used to belong to grampa gohan

@@battlesheep2552 He doesn't live in the exact same location. Also Chi Chi lives there, so it wouldn't necessarily go to Gohan

Well yeah but Chichi is using the land so... Goku already gave both of them everything, including the clothes on his back.

It's such a deep double edged sword and I don't think they've really talked about it. Goku showed he actually did care about Gohan by leaving him essentially a piece of himself, his gi, when martial arts was his passion. But it's a sign he never listened to Gohan bc Gohan never liked fighting, but Goku assumed he did.

power pole?

He got final flash

@@Sh1ranu1 true, and he nailed it. Now that I think about it, even in the actual Show they never give Vegeta a proper transformation, he just shows up with the powerup. His SSJ, SSJ2, and SSJ Blue are all off screen.

High praise, Lani knows screams.

​@GreenlandRobot it's like Vegeta being proud of the lungs on that boy

Agreed

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As great as Eric Vale is, no matter what, Kaiser will always be Trunks to me.

@@alysssabeara lot more people recently grew up with Kaiser as Trunks, some following DBZA since it’s beginning. I was there from the start and had watched DBZ when it came on tv but wasn’t running new episodes because it concluded, so I didn’t grow up following it like I did with DBZA, if that makes sense?

Then he does the Krillin laugh.

Its as good and better than a lot of shit thats produced today

That's what I like about the framing device that the story is being told by Trunks. It implies that things might be even more fucked up than they're shown to be and that perhaps Trunks was too young to understand some things. Like maybe we're only seeing a fraction of how crazy Gohan is (Trunks seems to be idealizing him) and how desperate Bulma is.

It also makes the whole “I can do this to you with one arm” moment even more suspect. Perhaps Gohan seriously lashed out at Trunks then but Trunks wrote that out of his mind.

Blink and you miss it but yeah, all three of them are instantly on top of it

That has probably been the best thing about Taka joining these. You can just see how naturally they bounce off of each other for structuring jokes and storylines, it's incredible.

I would be surprised if they weren't after all these years.

Scott killed it as Trunks even more than the androids killed Gohan

"Reverse-bathos." That's called pathos.

The fucked up part is that it's made clear in the special that if not for the fact that there was two of them, Gohan WOULD legitimately stand a chance and probably win; his folly wasn't in not being strong enough, it was in not nurturing Trunks's strength as soon as he got a chance to so that he could have someone to have his back.

@@UltLuigi1 yeah the anime changed/ruined that. in the manga version, right before killing Gohan, 17 tells him they never even used half their power against him. meaning even if he had SSj2, he couldnt win 1 on 1 much less 1 on 2. i think him being that out of his depth sells the hopelessness better than him having had a sliver of a chance.

@@saphcal Pretty sure the anime version of this came first.

@@cheezemonkeyeaterI specifically said “reverse-bathos” because regular bathos is something serious immediately followed by something humorous. The way Gohan died and Trunks going after him later has the process happen in reverse.

I’m not a weepy person. Believe me when I say the writing, the audio, and Kaiser’s performance brings me to tears every time I rewatch this one, it’s immaculate and PAINFUL

The amount of joy they get just remembering things, the passion in their work right now with this commentary that has been done before, I really can't say what episode is the best because every episode is better than the last, but the best one probably is whatever gets the fan base bigger and appeals the easiest.

Them sunglasses though...

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Yes no maybe I don't know

Maybe

Could you repeat that question?

The future is old now man

Yeah, I accustomed myself to hear these guys if the db media is in English, and to hear Mario and Rene in Spanish, TFS is just too iconic, although Sabat does his Vegeta/Piccolo good too

Si wn. Incluso me pasa que cuando pienso en Nappa al tiro pienso en la voz de Taka en vez del doblaje al español. Le dió caleta mas carácter al personaje.

Have to agree here, I grew up with Brazilian portuguese dub which I honestly feel is better then US english dub but I think the guys on TFS kill with their performances is so great. They should all feel proud

@@vrenks es que Taka es cuotable y siempre repetirás lo que el diga

​​@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505El es hilarante y citaremos todo lo que el diga.

Every now and then I’ll just think “I really miss Monty Oum.” A great man, gone in his prime. A loss for the world.

@@rasengan124 so true

light-ish timeline: Chi Chi spends the rest of her life trying to create a meal so delicious Goku spontaneously resurrects, her penultimate dish ressurecting Vegeta.

I can just imagine King Kai pulling on Goku's gi like: "No Goku, you can't leave the afterlife! Not ever!" "But King Kai, Chi Chi's making linner! It's chicken and waffles, King Kai! Chicken and waffles!" "I can't believe we're having this conversation." "Me neither!"

I'm honestly surprised they didn't mention it.

"hitting his off switch" or swung his life away?

@@alfo149Maybe he hung his aspirations

At the end of his rope

What's odd is that you'd think King Kai would let his former students (Goku and Piccolo), talk to their friends and family.

@@shmikex Abridged King Kai finds them pretty annoying though. He could be like "No! You guys fucked up! Your friends and family are on their own!"

Meme visualized.

I always figured that in this version Goku is _trying_ to talk to them, but Gohan keeps ignoring his calls since they never reconciled in the Chamber of Infinite Bullshit.

​@@yocapo32If that's the abridged canon, then yes. But in the actual show, Gohan doesn't have any animosity towards Goku at all.

@@tindevlar That's why I said "in this version".

​@@yocapo32the lion chamber?

@@DarthPferdYes the hypersonic lion tamer

That's what happens when you're the weakest Z member

​@@Phoenix-pm2qrsooooo Yamcha

The last thing he saw was a beautiful woman killing him

​@@TheHardy8778hey hes barley hanging on. Don't diss him like that.

No question, as far as I'm concerned.