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Dragon Quest 11 and The Ludonarrative Illusion 

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@Toanon
@Toanon 3 года назад
This is gonna sound weird but you really, really sound like Tim Rogers in this video
@Oceaniz
@Oceaniz 3 года назад
great, i narrated this video right after having finished watching his Tokimeki Memorial review so I was wondering if I had osmosised some of his mannerisms after 5 hours of listening to him lmao love the guy
@Toanon
@Toanon 3 года назад
@@Oceaniz This is not a bad thing at all by the way
@bigrathole
@bigrathole 3 года назад
@@Oceaniz I was tipped off that this might be the case before even starting the video by the words "ludonarrative" and "crikey!" XD
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 3 года назад
This video was entirely worth the 16 minutes it took to get to that pun at the end. I applaud you.
@masamoon1887
@masamoon1887 3 года назад
If you want an entire RPG series based on Re-Memory, look no further than the Trails series. Re-memory everywhere, everytime, jesus christ.
@wolffster25
@wolffster25 3 года назад
Yeah the newspapers you can read alone are the perfect examples although my favorite examples are the novel series like Carnelia, Red Moon Rose, and Three & Nine.
@cloudsclutchcorner
@cloudsclutchcorner 3 года назад
Yeah, Trails' (The Legend of Heroes) Narrative is like very little other game Series. He called DQ11 a High-Fantasy Epic...Trails is a High-Fantasy Epic Series, which I've seen so Rarely in Video Games...It Rivals High-Fantasy Book Series, that's how Interrelated so many parts are & the Story+Characters just keep building. It Currently Sits at 10 Games, first Arc being Trails in the Sky (FC, SC, the 3rd) then Crossbell (Zero & Azure) & then Cold Steel (I, II, III, IV) and Hajimari no Kiseki which hasn't come out yet in the West. Great Suggestion, I Second this Suggestion👍🔥
@2200Gill
@2200Gill 5 месяцев назад
My favourite background narrative in DQXI is the journals of the adventurer you can read throughout the game. It talks about locations you visit and two key items important to your own journey. The big revelation in the last journal that the adventurer is Chalky floored me. 👏🏽👏🏽 The amount of let's plays I've seen where people don't even remember that the hero's grandpa's name is Chalky, saddens me.
@Christopher-eq1rn
@Christopher-eq1rn 3 года назад
"dragon quest 11 is not a very hard game" **laughs in draconian mode**
@marcuso.530
@marcuso.530 3 года назад
I don't know if I'm alone on this, but I wasn't really a fan of the whole time travel aspect towards the end. All the character growth the characters went through just... wiped away from existence. Those incredible scenes between Hendrick and Jasper, gone.
@thatoneblackdude3333
@thatoneblackdude3333 3 года назад
Sarinas character development gone
@doobles9253
@doobles9253 3 года назад
Spoilers for DQ11 For all intents and purposes, the game literally ended after the Mordegon fight, Act 3 is called the post-game for a reason. You do not have to actually travel back in time. On top of that too though, there is a story reason for why you would go back: Yggdrasil. The Tree of Life exploded at the end of Act 1, this is important because the souls of the dead travel through the void to get back to Yggdrasil to be reborn. Without Yggdrasil, those souls just get lost in the void without any chance to be reborn, including Veronica. Going back in time gives the Hero a second chance to properly prevent all that suffering. You don't have to like the post-game, but the game ended by then, its literally just extra optional content beyond the credits.
@Tel1717
@Tel1717 3 года назад
Yeah, the time travel aspect took away a lot from the story and game as a whole for me.
@RedOphiuchus
@RedOphiuchus 3 года назад
@@doobles9253 that's actually not entirely accurate. It gives the hero a chance to create a timeline where that suffering doesn't occur. The old timeline is still there, the suffering and character developments still happened, and the people of that world get to continue living and picking up the pieces from there. With the hero gone that is.
@sumbril700
@sumbril700 3 года назад
@@doobles9253 I think the decision you make to go back (or put down the game and stop) is a fun one that's presented to you. You have a choice, knowing the consequences. In that way, going back really does make it a personal sacrifice on some level, as its meant to for the player character. You go through understanding that these characters whose development is mostly impacted (Serena, Hendrik) are lost, and that in some ways, they don't know their own potential because they don't go through the same hardships in a pre-calamity world. It's bittersweet and I kind of love it for that.
@wolffster25
@wolffster25 3 года назад
Go play the trails series it does this concept fantastically. Some characters, ideas, and concepts they mention in one game can take multiple games before it is resolved. It always feels so good when you finally get those resolutions it ends exactly like you said it works on me every time.
@dabiddo5
@dabiddo5 3 года назад
Incredible narration and amazing editing! I am so glad someone did address this tiny part of this fantastic J-RPG that I love so much. You have my like, my subscription and my total ovation. If RU-vid still had stars for ratings, this would be a 5/5 for me.
@Jamezontoast
@Jamezontoast 3 года назад
Dragon Quest has been doing this since 1986 and "re-memory" barely scratches the surface of the narrative techniques it explores imo It also doesn't span over one game, it spans the entire series and spinoff games. Everything intertwines
@yourwelcomeidiot9158
@yourwelcomeidiot9158 2 года назад
The endgame of dq3 really utilizes re-memory in a great way
@currentlybeingremade9706
@currentlybeingremade9706 3 года назад
Hm.. Re memory. Judging by how it’s square enix.. ‘You would knowingly shackle your heart with a chain of memories born of lies?’
@theinfernoburns
@theinfernoburns 3 года назад
I rlly love this game it doesnt get enough attention it deserves so much!!!
@NewplayerXL
@NewplayerXL 7 месяцев назад
Seriously what do you mean memory and re-memory? Isn't that good old foreshadowing? 😂
@TenshizakiN008
@TenshizakiN008 3 года назад
The best part of memory/re-memory with Dragon Quest, is that XI is just another player in the web of the same causality of it all. Much of these themes are reused from previous games, maybe with some names and designs changed. It's more something great for long time fans for playing through the series and hearing these same tropsey tales and experiences, but that's also why I adore the series.
@zoadragon3521
@zoadragon3521 3 года назад
*Hears pun at the end. I see you're putting your english studies to good use.
@something1558
@something1558 3 года назад
I'd love to see you make more videos on video games I love the way you go in depth about this stuff
@klebermarchand
@klebermarchand 3 года назад
Regarding the gold in the Elder Scrolls, I remember reading that gold pieces are actually made by official magicians of the Empire. It's thanks to some magical uniqueness that coins cannot be replicated. Don't quote me on that though, and it's clearly not explained in Skyrim, it's in a background book somewhere.
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 3 года назад
I haven't been on this channel for so long and am now finally watching the video back up.
@solar_kirby221
@solar_kirby221 3 года назад
This video is very good and every few minutes I’m surprised that you don’t have more subscribers
@kyle123456789986
@kyle123456789986 3 года назад
I just spam through books and never saw it frozen I just got to that boss and said oh cool a dragon
@StarWyvernHPB
@StarWyvernHPB 2 года назад
i viewed this as being similar to chekovs gun, but this is much better XD, great video!
@theinfernoburns
@theinfernoburns 3 года назад
I love the Tim Rodgers shout out!!! Subbed!!!
@moonmannd7501
@moonmannd7501 3 года назад
Memory/Re-Memory AKA the entire gameplay crux of Ace Attorney
@HoduAphrodite
@HoduAphrodite 3 года назад
17 minutes have felt way too long to explain ludonarrative consistency, but sure. I hope you go more in depth with game theory in the future ):3
@swandivemedia9249
@swandivemedia9249 3 года назад
this video was scriptonarrative for the next DQ11 review. hes going to mention that ice dragon in every video from now on.
@kaiserphoenix2038
@kaiserphoenix2038 3 года назад
Not long enough*
@TheFloodFourm
@TheFloodFourm 3 года назад
Can we get a TL:DW?
@swandivemedia9249
@swandivemedia9249 3 года назад
@@TheFloodFourm imagine dragons
@docbaker3333
@docbaker3333 3 года назад
Horii never forgets.
@stefismano
@stefismano 3 года назад
Great video, but quick correction in about 5:14, You couldn't find Dr. Valentino because he's not in Lonalulu, he's actually in Puerto Valor
@alxandernero
@alxandernero 3 года назад
Damn you and your puns. Take my upvote!
@NoirRaven
@NoirRaven 3 года назад
I didn't mind how long this video took, though some of the explanations felt redundant; repeating points already established, that kind of thing but still a great video none the less.
@Micha-mh7di
@Micha-mh7di 3 года назад
that bossfight hard as shit when playing draconic missions no cap
@bucket6585
@bucket6585 3 года назад
and most of them are rng based
@arieldominguez2905
@arieldominguez2905 3 года назад
You could say is a Re:Chain of Memories
@RichardParker84188
@RichardParker84188 3 года назад
with harder monsters on the boss is actually super tough
@muhammadnour283
@muhammadnour283 3 года назад
I really wish I played this game on draconian mode, but by the time I realized it was too late
@felixakadeutschgott1983
@felixakadeutschgott1983 3 года назад
The drag on is worth a like alone
@deIusionaI6
@deIusionaI6 3 года назад
So um when we getting the next monster hunter world vid
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 3 года назад
I'm sorry, I'm sure this video is as solid as your others, I just had to take a moment to catch my brain up after hearing that DQ11 had a place called "Sniffleheim," because oh my god that shizz is hilarious. XD
@andy-floriplay-time7366
@andy-floriplay-time7366 3 года назад
Pretty much every japanese property set in fantasy medieval times has stupid names
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 3 года назад
@@andy-floriplay-time7366 hard disagree? Most of them are pretty solid, even if they pull a final fantasy 7 and rip names from myth. Like, the Fire Emblem series does great - Tellius, Elibe, Archaneia, so on. All really good names. Taking a norse reference and making it a pun? Particularly one like "Snifleheim"? That's rare form.
@MaximumAddition
@MaximumAddition 3 года назад
@@pyrosianheir The modern Dragon Quest localization team, Shloc Ltd, really loves working with puns which really matches the Dragon Quest charm, they're great!
@BlackOwlMage
@BlackOwlMage 3 года назад
Idk about you but the Aural Serpent faded my whole team the first few times I fought him
@manjeetsingh-rf5fs
@manjeetsingh-rf5fs 3 года назад
Good video
@TheSerpymatt
@TheSerpymatt 3 года назад
Or... foreshadowing.
@RickKouwen
@RickKouwen 3 года назад
O heII yeah, Dragon queast Its been some month but i love DX11 playing it fore the 2th time and the 2020 anime is sweet to
@panagiotisdoulaveris5592
@panagiotisdoulaveris5592 3 года назад
I would love it of you made some videos for trailss of cold steel series..amazing jrpgs series
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer 6 месяцев назад
*Shadow* of *memories* Gee, I wonder what would hint at the *entire* game being this😅
@decusq
@decusq 3 года назад
Wonderful video. And it greatly explains to me why i never truly could play FF15 and like it. With Dragon QUest 11 I felt like he developers did a good job building the world to feel believable. The way the towns function, how you interact with the people and how they each have their own culture and way of life. But with Final Fantasy 15 i never once felt like the World itself was believable because of a few things. One the people barely felt like people because they would never react with what was happening in the story and two the way the towns were set up never made me believe that they were in a world where demons could attacks at any moment. In DQ11 the towns have great barriers, fences and guards posted to make you feel they feel they need to defend the place to let your imagination carry on. But with FF15 at most you see lights on at night and nothing else... so nothing protects these hubs or lil towns during the day where there are still monsters???
@swandivemedia9249
@swandivemedia9249 3 года назад
DOS2 PTSD
@StepBaum
@StepBaum 3 года назад
When you work on a video and one of your favourite youtubers just "steals" the idea. Glad to see, since this is such a great game. Honestly. Na danke dafür lmao
@charlesdemarest1171
@charlesdemarest1171 3 года назад
Memory and Re-memory...you mean foreshadowing?
@HibiTeamQueso
@HibiTeamQueso 5 месяцев назад
You are sorry? Sir, I was looking for videos about DQ XI and this is perfect. I wish you would spend even more time tslking 🤣
@KyleTO7
@KyleTO7 3 года назад
Is this PS4 or switch footage?
@The_Big_Jay
@The_Big_Jay 3 года назад
Is the font in the video the same as Achievement Hunter's GameFails used?
@Oceaniz
@Oceaniz 3 года назад
I have no clue what that is but maybe! The font used is Futura Medium, which is a free to use font so it's definetly possible
@The_Big_Jay
@The_Big_Jay 3 года назад
@@Oceaniz You can look them up, something like "GameFails rooster teeth" As you can probably tell, they used to be a type of video rooster teeth did that got it's own channel that was just user submitted funny moments and glitches, but they stopped uploading in 2016. Lmao, I'm actually still subscribed.
@thefishinthepercolator3031
@thefishinthepercolator3031 3 года назад
Isn't memory/ Re-memory just the same thing as remembrance?
@merienda4958
@merienda4958 3 года назад
Well it says it in the name
@TreeOfTurles
@TreeOfTurles 3 года назад
Great timing to put out a DQ11 video for me. I just started my second playthrough of it last week, (this time on the switch) uncanny
@TreeOfTurles
@TreeOfTurles 3 года назад
Also the Doctor is in Puerto Valor not Lonalulu but no big deal
@Giggles_iJest
@Giggles_iJest 3 года назад
4:03 I mean technically it does affect the story cause you get better gear/stats with more coin and thus you beat Alduin quicker. Which really turns the narrative into you being OP from the start... Then again dovahkiin is meant to be OP from the get-go so... 😂
@muhammadnour283
@muhammadnour283 3 года назад
I bet you wrote down that pun in your script, then thought about whether or not to take it out for a good amount of time... and you made the right decision
@SergioAlvarez45
@SergioAlvarez45 3 года назад
Is the Dragonequest 8 protagonist in this game or is that just a skin?😂
@chaval6903
@chaval6903 3 года назад
just an outfit for the main hero
@kwesichristian5517
@kwesichristian5517 3 года назад
Aaaaand you just gained a new subscriber :))))
@randallbonillasandoval896
@randallbonillasandoval896 3 года назад
If you continue doing Dragon Quest videos, I will watch them full
@kfed9834
@kfed9834 3 года назад
The Serpent is actually a pain on stronger enemies Draconian settings, I'd say probably the hardest boss in act 2.. Also Two time boss fight if you care to actually play the whole game but I guess most players would give up after act 2.. and Oh boy Act 3 serpent with harder enemies, even though you have a bigger party it's still pretty insane.. not the hardest fight in Act 3 by a landslide, but still within the top 5 imo (for Dragon Quest XI S) only the top 2 for regular Dragon quest with the many less battles in that version of the game
@RoseGarden17
@RoseGarden17 3 года назад
This was actually really interesting
@WhosDnisify
@WhosDnisify 3 года назад
Bruh that dragon... I couldn't care less... I was grinding in Gallopolis, went to beat Gyldegard coz it was my First Fight I honestly had to grind for, then went to that dragon and was like "HoLy ShIt ItS bLaCk ShEnGlOnG" Just to later find out that we actually get splitted up in form of balls just Like the Dragonballs lmao. Wasn't enough that our MC is basically Trunks who got isekai'd
@sesereddead465
@sesereddead465 3 года назад
Is this your first video game review?
@swandivemedia9249
@swandivemedia9249 3 года назад
he should do anime reviews i want to hear what he thinks about my hero academia.
@cashordeals3672
@cashordeals3672 3 года назад
I swear I thought that hero was gonna fight kaido from one piece 🤣
@saudbintalib2567
@saudbintalib2567 3 года назад
2021 is going to be a great year for series like One Piece,My Hero Academia, Black Clover,Boruto,Dragon Ball Super,Bleach,Jujutsu Kaisen,Chainsaw Man,Edens Zero,Seven Deadly Sins etc.
@kasriouiyassir
@kasriouiyassir 3 года назад
Chainsaw man been done tho
@saudbintalib2567
@saudbintalib2567 3 года назад
@@kasriouiyassir there's the anime adaptation and a sequel soooooo.......
@user-yu1vm1tm2d
@user-yu1vm1tm2d 3 года назад
Attack on titan?!
@saudbintalib2567
@saudbintalib2567 3 года назад
@@user-yu1vm1tm2d Attack On Titan is ending quite soon....
@yourstrulyjohnnydollar8775
@yourstrulyjohnnydollar8775 3 года назад
I liked this video, but that pun at the end almost made me give it a thumbs down instead. Friends don't let friends make puns.
@Fakeplasticloveers
@Fakeplasticloveers 3 года назад
The Ukrainian!
@Pikaman20008
@Pikaman20008 3 года назад
You didn’t have to apologize about the subject matter of the video being something unimportant, I found it interesting nonetheless. But I will never and I mean *never* forgive you for that pun at the end.
@Tyler_Frenzy
@Tyler_Frenzy 3 года назад
Mha hater
@sesereddead465
@sesereddead465 3 года назад
Is this sarcastic? A lot of his mha videos is him praising it....
@herothinker4846
@herothinker4846 3 года назад
@@sesereddead465 Yes, its sarcasm.
@Tyler_Frenzy
@Tyler_Frenzy 3 года назад
@@sesereddead465 what else would it be
@swandivemedia9249
@swandivemedia9249 3 года назад
my favorite Mha character is Sasuke Ichigo from the fire nation.
@sesereddead465
@sesereddead465 3 года назад
@@Tyler_Frenzy it just seemed irrelevant to this video...
@OvermasterP
@OvermasterP 3 года назад
im unsubbing for the dragon joke
@bait4sale9001
@bait4sale9001 3 года назад
I still hold DQ11 very low regards, but I did appreciate it making a more stable world than most other games or stories.
@trainer-mana
@trainer-mana 3 года назад
I hate Dragon Quest. It ruined smash bros.
@MaximumAddition
@MaximumAddition 3 года назад
How so? Genuinely curious why you think that, if anything it seems like it adds to the game being a celebration of gaming history
@trainer-mana
@trainer-mana 3 года назад
@@MaximumAddition Random crits can vivisect me.
@trainer-mana
@trainer-mana 3 года назад
@@Wert-eo7sz And crits, don't forget the crits. But yeah, I'm not exactly a fan of people mashing down b and praying to jesus that whatever OP spell comes out will win them the game.
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