DRAGONBALL GT - HOW DO YOU FIX IT? | A Dragonball Discussion 

The crux of the matter is that when Vegeta turns SSJ4 he automatically acquires leather trousers from nowhere, and that is objectively cool.

The biggest sin was teasing and not delivering an adult Gotenks

one thing for sure is, No matter how much people hate or love GT. You have to admit, that, th dragon balls becoming the final enemy of the franchise is the best concept for the final antagonists the franchise could ever hope to have (and is still the best)

Baby is easily the scariest villain in the series. Not intimidating, actually scary. He's a parasite, created solely to be capable of infecting and commanding all documented life in existence at the time of his creation. Filled with a hatred for the Saiyans that wiped out his entire progenitor race, he literally body hops across the galaxy, following the heroes until he's ready. He heads to Earth and... infects EVERYONE. Suddenly, your greatest allies, your friends, your family... they want you DEAD. Their personalities twisted into this strange reflection of themselves, filled with malice and a pride for the race that created the vermin now playing the role of puppet master. It was horrific for me as a kid, watching all these characters I'd loved ever since I found Z, become villains. Vegeta's infection in particular, scared me. Watching him struggle, his power rising to try and force this disgusting slime out of him, ultimately fails as we watch him be completely subdued. Baby spreads throughout his body, and the white hair, and red markings, indicated Vegeta, the Saiyan prince, Goku's eternal rival, wasn't there anymore. In his place, was Baby.

I agree completely with the sentiment that GT should have had Goten and Trunks as its primary characters, I mean just think about it GT.

"be careful what you wish for" is actually a pretty clever tittle for GT since aside from what happened in the show, GT only happened because people demanded more DB after Z ended and as a result we got GT....

How about making Uub matter? He was trained by Goku for years and even got a huge power up in the Baby arc only for it to mean nothing right after, when Baby changed forms again.

I really didn't hate GT. Though I kinda hated Goku being a kid the whole damn time, too much Trunks, and the way everyone looks like they're all oiled up. Seriously, why are they all so shiny?!

Goku: Man, I wonder how in the world do I fix GT... If only there were away... Piccolo: Yeah, if ONLY... Gohan: Wow Dad, seems REALLY DIFFICULT to figure out, huh? Uub: Yep, a COMPLETE mystery to be sure! Buu: Buu sure is unsure! Gotenks: Yep, I guess we'll NEVER find out how to make this show better... Goku: ...If only there were a way... Vegeta: GIVE US SCREEN-TIME!!!

goku getting killed by the wish from the black star balls would have made the most sense. actually, it could have worked out where emperor pilaf, as his wish, could have been "Oh how i wish I could send you to hell!" and boom, goku is in hell. enternal suffering, having to fight against ALL the villains goku has had to fight over the years, and the black star balls could have some clause to them where a normal dragon cannot undo the wish of a black star dragon due to the immense power difference. so to sum up, goku is dead and in hell, and the crew have to go out to get the black star balls to wish goku alive again cause a good guy being in hell is a pretty big no-no. that premise alone could be interesting and could incorporate the later hell arc stuff and super 17.

What are you talking about? I LOVED that Goten fighting off Baby while going on a date with his girlfriend scene.

1) give Uub actual development and screentime. An arc where he started having flashes of memory from being Kid Buu and how that affected him would've been awesome. 2) make Bra an interesting character like her parents, instead of a simple spoiled princess. Making the daughter of the smartest human and the Prince of Saiyans so shallow a character is frankly criminal.

ball, z, gt, kai, heroes, super....absalon can't we all just get along and agree that evolution was bullshit

How do you fix it: 1) No kid Goku. Fuck kid Goku 2) Goten instead of Trunks in space. We aldready saw an adult Trunks in Z. It's not exactly like the one in GT, but we have an idea of how he looks and acts. Goten, on the other hand, is basically a new character now, and he got little to no space in GT. We didn't even see adult Gotenks, that was a big mistake. 3) Make Pan less annoying 4) Make the search for the Dragon Balls in the universe more interesting. The planets were boring, the enemies (with the exception of Rilldo) were bland and not that poweful. It tried to re create the feeling of the original Dragon Ball, but it failed. 5) Make Baby more interesting. Talking about villains, Baby is the best one in GT. But he is far from perfect. First, his origins. they are literally Cell's origins, no fucking difference. It should have been a member of the last living tuffle family who, after hearing that there were still some Saiyans alive, trained for years to become more powerful. He could have been a tragic villain, someone with a purpose to be evil. They kinda tried to do that, but at the end he was just a "Fuck you saiyans you are gonna die because i'm strong". 6) Remove Super 17 or create a completely different villain 7) Make only one Shadow Dragon. There are 7 shadow dragons, only 2 of them are actually interesting (Nuova and Omega). All the others were there just because "There are 7 Dragon Balls, we have to make 7 dragons". They weren't interesting, they weren't memorable, they were just there because of the plot. Omega was good, but he was treated like a final boss of a videogame instead of an actual character. He is the most powerful foes in all of Dragon Ball, let him have more space!

Hmmmmmmm, how would I fix Dragonball GT... A: Hey, remember those first 25 episodes or so? The one on which they were looking for the Black Star Dragon Balls to stop the Earth from being destroyed? Before they first found the remainments of the Tuffles? Could we... Have something intersting happen on then, please? I mean, come on, they are going all across the galaxy here: It would be a perfect opportunity to introduce new races, or new characters, or new... Something. B: Speaking on the Tuffles: As for Baby, am I the only one who feels he was way too card-carriyng evil, when his background could have made for a almost perfect "tragic" and sympatethic villain? I mean, first of all, let us take away that "Killing his own minions for fun" bullshit, and secound of all: Imagine a episode showing a city of people controlled by Baby, at their own perspective... And imagine that city actually working pretty well. The citizens would be peacefull, helping out eachother, having a sense of union, and, if anything, the city would have grown a lot more of focus into academics and scientifical research, almost reflecting how a typical Tuffle city would have went, and being a place that seems like it would be wonderfull to live in, wasnt for the detail that... You know, everyone there is being controlled by Baby. Then, imagine one of the heroes coming to that city, and the citizens looking at it in terror: At first, frozen in place by fear, their foreheads sweating, the eyes wide open... And then, a few cuts to anotbher scene: Of a very similar city, burning in fire, their buildings reduced to ruins, with dead and dismembered bodies everywhere... As a group of Saiyans, their faces covered in shadows, walk, the occasional ki blast coming out of their hands to produce a massive explosion... And, as a woman would trip in the front of one of the Saiyans, looking at it in fear... The beast would smile, before we would see, from her perspective, one of the blasts being shot at her. And then, back at the scene with Goku and his friends, they would run, get some weapons, and call Baby for help. I would have found Baby a-Amazing-Villain if we had a scene along these lines. Something to show the world at his perspective: Showing that he really isnt a bad person, at least, not in goal: All he wants is to bring back a civilization that, on its prime, was near utopic, and to kill off a race he has every reason in the world to think of as evil, brutal barbarians. Granted, the WAY he wants to bring back that civilization is certainly questionable to say the least, and the remaining Saiyans happen to be very good people... But come on: If Baby has the memories of the Tuffles whose DNA were used to make him, odds are, the poor guy was literally-Born-With PTSD. C: As for Super Android 17: Dont. ... Allright, the idea didnt sucked THAT hard, but... It was literally just "Androids going on a rampage" all over again. Do we really need to do the exact same plot twice? Maybe one of you guys can think of a way to add a decent twist to it compared to the first time, but none is coming to my head right now. D: And, as for the Shadow Dragons: I just wished most of then had been more powerfull, really. The only ones who felt as if they actually had a chance at winning were Ein, Nuova, Syn... And maybe Naturon, after he absorbed Pan( Thus leading to a admittedly heartwrenching scene ). The rest? You just knew there was no way they could defeat a guy that was used to fight beings who can blow up entire planets. Actually, this is my main problem with Dragonball GT in general: Only a handfull of times you actually get the feeling there is any chance our heroes may lose.

I really wish they would have brought the Super Saiyajin 4 transformation back. It was so well designed..

How to fix GT: a TFS abridging would do the trick!

They should have done more with Uub. His character was completely wasted in GT.

I've always thought that vegeta's dumb gt hair was just a result of him cutting it. so it's not a natural change. thus a plot hole is avoided

I have a theory. What if there was a timeline where Lord Beerus never woke up. That timeline would be the timeline where GT exists.

I like a lot of the concepts in GT. Heck, if you summarize the main arcs' "high concept" (as interpreted by yours truly) as succinctly as possible, they sound somewhere between decent and fascinating. "Interstellar Dragon Ball hunt". "A race the Saiyans destroyed gets revenge at last". "Villains the heroes killed team up in HFIL to get their revenge"*. "The heroes finally face consequences for abusing the Dragon Balls so much". And the Golden Oozaru and SSJ4 are basically combining previous transformations rather than just being slightly different upgrades like SSJ2 and 3 (and the versions Vegeta and Future Trunks tried on Cell); hence, I prefer their concepts to the other SSJ forms'. (Though SSJG-the red one-is definitely a close second.) It's a shame the execution was so flawed. *Definitely the weakest, but it's still not bad.

How did you not mention removing Giru? He Jar Jar Binksed the hell out of this show.

I don't care what else would change, Vegeta's moustache stays.

Well, I don't think that Pilaf is actually a bad guy he just thinks he is. Pilaf and the gang are actually pretty innocent as far as villains go, they just seem bad. They just wanted to get their wish to rule the world and would try to do that by any means but he didn't want to be an evil ruler like Piccolo did. I would say he is kinda like Oolong, he did some pretty nasty things but is as harmless as a fly. Really they are just idiots. But, you know, I would say that Trunks is a pretty good influence on them.

The thing that would have made Baby cooler would be if he realized that Goku didnt have anything to do with what the Sayains did to the Tuffles, so instead he should have took over GOKU an have Vegeta be the one to obtain SSJ4.

Cool video MasakoX, and great points. A lot of these points I though of myself before. Actually a couple of more things I can think of to maybe make it even better: The Shadow Dragon arc using all of the characters. Maybe Goku and Vegeta could take on the really strong Dragons like Syn or Nova while Trunks and Goten could take on Haze, or something along those lines so everybody does something meaningful instead of sitting around waiting for Goku. Have Goku be the one possessed by Baby, and have Vegeta face off against him. It only makes sense, of all the Saiyans Baby hates Vegeta the most, so why would he try to kill Goku and spare Vegeta? Shouldn't he steal Goku's body, and then humiliate Vegeta by using one of his own subordinates against his leader? Then it could go into a pseudo-treason situation, and Vegeta gets character development and learns what being a leader truly means. Gohan and Pan should fight together without outside help. It'd be really cool character development for the two of them, and maybe they could throw in an awesome callback to the Father-Son Kamehameha somehow.

The only real issue I have with SSJ4 is the name, as an alternative, I tend to use "Primal Saiyan". Super Saiyan 4 implies that it requires SSJ3 as a stepping stone, which it isn't even a part of the same power tree branch. Below is a crude ASCII rendering of what I mean. Super Saiyan 4 / Primal Saiyan /\ .| Golden Oozaru /\ .| Oozaru......................................Legendary Super Saiyan (Broly) /\........................................................./\ .|...........................................................| Base Form --------------------> Super Saiyan -> Super Saiyan 2 -> Super Saiyan 3 |..........| ..............................................| |.........\/.............................................V | Super Saiyan God..............Super Saiyan Grade 2 (Buff Goku/Vegeta) |........|..................................................| V......\/................................................V Super Saiyan Blue.................Super Saiyan Grade 3 (Ludicrously Buff Trunks)

Not gonna lie, I had a huge crush on Pan back in middle school. I got over it later, but I still really like her as a character.

Fixing GT is pretty simple. 1) Remove the Planet hopping Arc of the series (or remake it with more action). It lasted too long, dragged on, wasn't funny, and overall was slow paced. 2) Give Trunks a less pansy look and personality. He looks like he wanted to do a Scooby Doo cosplay, and acts like one to boot. Super's Future Trunks gives us a better example of how Trunks should be done. 3) Allow Pan to go SSJ. 4) More fights and more stories closer to Super 17 and the Evil Dragons Arcs. Those are when GT was at it's best. 5) Adult Gotenks. Enough said Once GT went more towards the DBZ formula, the series got much better. The fights improved, and we got SSJ4 people. Hell, start GT as a continuation of Z. Where Goku is off training Ubuu until the next Tenkaichi Budoukai. Reintroduce the cast, along with new characters at the Tournament, and progress from there.

How long does it make you to script/make these videos? cause wow these are high quality

I'm personally just wanting 17 to actually have some screentime He could just hang out and kinda be there and make some comments and I'd be happy

Wow. You just made me think of an awesome story for the 17 & 18 thing. After thinking that idea over, I actually liked 18 as a character, and wish more time was dedicated to her development and a story that leads to her actually seeing goku as a friend. She's so strong, she could be something great for the team.

I think you covered all bases really well here. With one exception: Completely cut out the pompara brothers *shudder*

gt should of been gotens time to shine, and to see a more powerful vengeful raditz would of been great, pan should of been a hell of alot better, i was always 50/50 about gt.

You know, I just wish Goku aclaims Super Saiyan 4 somehow. I LOVED his cockiness and confidence. And that badass appearance of his fur covering him. He's one of the best things of GT.

1- Goku as an adult. Let's face it, rejuvenating Goku was the biggest Diabolous Ex-Machina in the franchise; completely unnecesary. 2- Uub being a full-fledged Goku sucessor. 3- Pan being more like how she appears in Neko Majin Z. 4- More prominence to characters such as Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Piccolo, etc. 5- Having the black-star dragon balls created by Dende. 6- A more logical super saiyan four, now I know that probably most of you want to kill me because I don't find the super saiyan four to be that epic, giant, fuckaton of awesomeness, but seriously, a shirtless furry? A golden-haired version of the transformation would be more rational since the previous form the golden Ozaru it's golden. 7- Give villains more motivations beyond: destroy the world because of evulz! or taking over the world (OF COURSE!). 8- Having the same lighthearted tone of the first Dragon Ball series.

I'd also add Uub and Bra to the list of characters to search for the black star dragonballs. To go with the theme of "be careful what you wish for" Uub is a perfect character to personify the good elements of such wishes, both literally and metaphorically. Bra would be an excellent companion, not only to balance out the gender ratio slightly, but can be an excellent mentor/older sister figure for Pan. Also imagine how powerful she would be considering Vegeta's strength at conception. That's exciting. With a crew of the youngest dragonball characters searching across the cosmos to fix the consequences of these ancient, deadly wish granting devices and dealing with the consequences of not only the sayain race and their parents' constant use of the dragonballs, we also have another theme of "the new generation inheriting the consequences of the old generation". Again, Uub would be a fantastic character for this theme. Not to mention Pan ,being the youngest and one generation down of Trunks, Goten, and Bra, would have that in common with Uub and be a great symbol of this theme.

I never cried while watching Z but I cried 3 times in GT: Piccolo's sacrifice, Goku says goodbye and Goku Jr's adventure

It's been a while since I've seen it, but here's what I remember thinking at the time. 1) Kid Goku was funny, for the first couple of episodes. That bit got old fast (like Goku should have!). 2) Pan was super annoying! It could have been okay at first, and then had some character development later on. But she just stayed annoying. 3)I liked the idea that the bad guys were sent to the Saiyans or Earth specifically. It seemed less random, and more though through. 4) having Goten being able to go into Space instead of Goku. It kinda would have made it seem like, it was the nest generations turn to protect what their home. 5) Why was Bra/Bulla/Bulra Not a fighter? With Saiyan genes she should have been kicking butt. Even if it was just a little bit of butt. Like, come on man. 6)The writers may have held dragon Ball itself near and dear to their hearts, but they sure didn't like any of the side characters. 7)Why were neither of the female saiyans interesting!? 8) I Don't like that they made 17 a bad guy. They could have just rehashed the Bojack movie, I would have been cool with it. 9) Gotenks. And finally, we come to the last one. I would be all right with GT as a whole even with it's plot holes and annoyances, but this last one... 10) I absolutely hate/abhor/loathe what they did to Vegeta. Not the hair, (which was bad enough), or the mustache (that was just funny). But the way he changed into the SSJ4 form. There is no way in hell that Vegeta, Prince of all Saiyans that we know would stoop down and let a machine do the work of getting him stronger with a new form. He would have probably blown the damn thing up! The Bulma we know would know better than that anyway! As soon as he heard about Goku being able to do it, he would have weighed the pros and cons of the transformation. (Because was all know he doesn't like using SSJ3) and trained until he sweat blood and vomited tears until he could do it himself. No question.

I really hope after Super they redo some of the aspects of GT. I loved the concept of the shadow Dragons! But make some of them look less stupid.... Keep Nova, Eis, and Sin

GT would be more palatable to me if Pan wasn't such an annoying character. She's the granddaughter of Goku, an impossibly lighthearted manchild and daughter of Gohan, who is intelligent and self sacrificing when it comes to stepping up to save the Earth, as was Goku. Pan, on the other hand, comes off as a bitch and whiney. Where does she get that personality from? Not Videl, who is much more passive and happy than her agressive self when she's first introduced. Sure, her grandmother Chi-chi is aggressive, but is also motherly and caring almost to a fault. Also, when we first see her, she's shopping in the city with Master Roshi for some reason, which just seems weird. Instead of turning Goku back into a child, Pan could have been the Kid Goku type character instead. Also, Giru. Kill it with fire.

DRAGONBALL GT needs what the Dragonball Z series received later on? A; *DRAGONBALL GT Kai* remastered series. Which would cut out all the unnecessary errors with the show and sharpen it up slightly while fixing flub and mistakes and improving picture quality etc. Whether official or fan made etc, i believe this'll happen one day. And kind of redeem DB-GT in the eyes of the fans that still support it.

How I would improve DBGT: Black star balls arc- The same opinion as you. Baby arc- Main characters (Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo) The parts I would've changed are the infection, since Piccolo discovered it first, he would try to warn the others, but they end up being infected, then, Piccolo confronts and cures Gohan, making a great emotional battle, all the Baby Vegeta and SSJ4 stuff would be the same, but with seeing all her beloved ones suffer, and Goku going pretty much mad, would turn in a SSJ, trying to confront Baby on desperation, she would fail, Goku would see Pan lying on the ground, starts gaining its consciousness back and turning SSJ4, Goku would beat Baby with a VERY badass Super Dragon Fist. Super 17 arc- Main Characters (Gohan, Trunks, Bulma, Vegeta) After a tough battle, Goku is drained and can't fight for some time, due to his injuries against Baby, all the "Androids going mad" would happen, Krillin would be killed by 17 and 18, then, Trunks and Gohan would try...

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My points/complaints of GT 1) What was really the point of turning Goku into a kid, yes re-live the original Dragon Ball, but with an adult mind and so on it's not the same. 2) I'm pretty sure THE only reason Trunks was around was because of Future Trunks popularity. Too bad they really ruined kid trunks trying to make him more like future trunks and they couldn't do it right. 3) Pan is fricken annoying nuff said she should rather be a child or more mature make up your mind. 4) They didn't give the side characters much screen time or really it they were on screen they didn't really do much. 4) this ties into number 3 but people joke that GT stands for Goku Time for a reason... 5) The ass pull to let Vegeta go SS4 6) What was the point of Bra, I get she was introduced beer the end of Z but my opinion still stands. Plus wasn't she and Pan like 14 at the oldest (depending on dubs) so what the hell? 7) Giru was even more annoying than Pan I could go on but I don't really want to, just about everything I said I'm sure like 100 or thereabouts also said in the comments below and above me.

Great discussion. But personally, while I love your ideas, especially of the Overclocked Androids, I would still kept the Hell Arc of GT, mainly because it would have been an awesome concept of all Past Villains coming back for a final attempt at revenge...

Yeah, I'd keep the Black Star Saga over 12 episodes.

You know what else that would fix it? To see someone like Pan and Trunks training. I mean after there journey in space or the Baby incident you would've though that they both would want to get stronger to make sure they want to protect the ones they love. Not only that, some really impressive feats. I mean SSJ4 *was* supposedly the strongest transformation so lets see what else it can do besides lifting a building. Even more so with the villains! I mean you would expect Omega Shenron to do something outrages since he *was* the strongest villian, but what he did to demonstrate his power was destroying a city. Which Nappa had done so already yet everyone was in shock and awe when happened.

SSJ4 was amazing, Baby was a good villain, Gogeta was awesome, Omega Shenron was cool. People bash GT and praise Super but there has been like 1 good arc (the current one) and the rest was meh.

Cutting out the first third of GT will help a lot. It's still not that good regardless. The first third they were trying to get the vibe of the original Dragonball and it didn't work. Then they went all out DBZ but the enemies weren't as interesting. The whole thing is uninspired.

I wish they had focused more on Goten and Bra.

i still think Super should tie into GT (and for them to revamp GT to make it better :D )

I actually liked Goten in GT. His growth between Z and GT made sense with his father being absent for quite the while, his brother living his own life and his mother not being able to handle him. At least he had some development, in contrast to Super at least. Super is just lacking so badly. I actually dropped it during that smile stuff.....

The idea that one of the dragons was made from oolong wishing for panties was hilarious

you have given me more and more reason to adore dragon ball over the years with your interpretations and detail on the series as a whole and your comedy mix with thoughts feelings and discussions expanding the universe with the what ifs and importance of certain aspects plus your involvement with the abridged series ... I don't know if you will ever see this but know I'm a huge fan of yours and adore all the content you give us because of how well you formulate the facts and opinions and all the detail inbetween ...

The only reason I watched gt was because I wanted to see Vegeta go supersayan with a mustache

the evil dragon arc wasn't that bad, but they could have given vegeta some credit even before that. he could have at least gotten the super saiyan 3 form to fight alongside goku against some dragons. then require ascension to SS4 when Syn/Omega came into the picture.

Whenever you feel like you start to hate this show, think about Dragonball: Evolution.... You will start to see reason

I'm actually bias toward Dragon Ball GT since it was my first introduction to the series when I was a child because my dad was a fan of the series. I saw parts of the Shadow Dragon Saga with my dad when I was a child and I really liked it, which caused me to look into Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z when I was older and watch them. Now the series itself (Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Super) is really special to me.

This was a great video of your interpretation of what GT was and should've been. Also, is that a piano mix of the GT opening theme?

I always felt it was such a waste that goku and pan were the only ones to go after the dragons. it could have been a great chance to give others a chance to shine. Goku and uub could have fought one, letting us actually get to see their master student relationship that we didn't get to earlier. goten and trunks could fight another, giving goten some screen time and letting us see an adult gotenks. another could be fought by Gohan - again giving a forgotten character a chance to shine. In this case we can actually get a resolution to his arc. fourth dragon could have been fought by the human/ weaker characters - krillen, tien, yamcha, 18, pan, kibitoshin and others would get their chance to prove that they can be defenders of earth in their own right without relying on saiyans. and then it could be vegeta vs 2 dragons at the same time. this could push him to his limits and provide him the opportunity to become ssj4 himself. And the final dragon could be just like it was in the show, albeit cut down.

I love all db series

When I first watched the video I questioned his thinking of Christmas when hearing Ssj4 Gogeta's theme... Then immediately checked it out and OH BOY, THAT IS DEFINITELY CHRISTMAS.

MasakoX is easily the nicest member of the DB community. I wouldn't want anyone else voicing Goku in abridged, and if I hadn't grown up with schimmel's voice. I would want to hear a slightly more serious MX Voice for Canon Goku.

something I don't get is why do the black star balls exist. it just never made sense to me.

Masako Look After DBNA (Dragonball New Age). Malik rewrite for his story DBGT and I like it very much.

Put GT aspects into Super

The Android idea you had actually wouldnt be a bad idea. I thought it was ridiculous how powerful Super 17 became from a simple merge.

They actually said the black star dragon Balls were on a different frequency in the Japanese dub

Removing Kid Goku would help a lot... Though I found most of the stories pretty interesting, I never felt like there was any real danger for the characters.. Goku showed he could handle pretty much everything and there were few moments where you didn't have that "He can just transform and fix things" feeling in the back of my head for most of GT. I would have loved to see the other characters develop more to deal with problems without that Goku failsafe around :P

Your idea to change the Super 17 saga works. I wouldn't mind seeing that because it will keep me glued to my seat.

MAKE GT GREAT- FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER

Could we bring Uub on the trip too ? I mean he spent 10 years ! 10 years with Son Goku, I'm not even sure Chichi spent that much time with him ! That has to account for some kind of strong student/master bound ! You'd understand why Uub'd like to go on a chase after the relics that could bring his former beloved master back to life ! I don't know what's the global opinion on that character but seeing how Gohan didn't want to be much of a fighter, neither did Trunks or Goten, it only makes sense to me that the série would focus on Pan and Uub, the ones that, at the end of Dragon Ball, seemed like the next generation of fighters. What's your opinion on Uub MasakoX ? Would you care to do a video about the guy ?

I love the tagline you came up with "Be careful what you wish for" it just fits so well

The black star balls were probably inert until Piccolo fused with Kami, but then, that just means the radar should've picked 'em up after that.

How about Pan existing literally just to be a damsel in distress for Goku to save? She should've gone Super Saiyan and became relevant.

How do you fix Dragon Ball GT? You make a TFS abridged series!

a good way to explain why the blavk star balls couldnt be located is that they were created when kami and king piccolo were still one being and when they split they went dormant until piccolo fused with Kami

I love DBGT, specially its soundtrack, and totally agree. :)

Every series in the show could be made better by making characters other than Goku useful for something other than taking out the main bad guy's cannon fodder troops. Even Vegeta, who has had a very prominent role in Super, seems to just be around to take out mid-boss characters and then get shown up by Goku.

The black star dragonballs never should have existed, they are an infinite spiral of plot hole. Since they can kill, why not wish veggie and nappa, Cell or Buu dead? "Oh but they'll blow up the planet the wish was made on!"...........er ok, take the balls to an uninhabited planet and make the wish there.... Then, use the regular dragonballs to wish all the black star ones back into one place, rise and repeat.

I love the American intro theme of Dragon Ball Grand Tour.

this is the best explanation of db gt. despite being a bad succesor to dbz it had its moments.

Simple, don't make GT all about Goku, make Pan NOT useless, and don't make him overpowered to the point he surpassed everyone else while in Base form.

I just think SSJ4 has too much going on, but I do like what it's trying.

Watching this discussion again, I remembered one thing. Remember how Kuririn tried to destroy one of the Namekian Dragonballs when the Ginyu Force first arrived? He did this truly believing this could be done, which leads me to believe it really could be done. And yet Piccolo... somehow didn't take that option into account in GT. Rrrright... And don't even get me started on how Piccolo fusing with Kami shouldn't have reactivated the Dragonballs that the Nameless Namekian created before splitting in the first place. Piccolo's makeup is the same, but he's not the same person. But that one's a pretty minor gripe and I'll quite honestly let it fly. But Piccolo sooner thinking of dying than just destroying the Blackstar DBs with a single energy blast (or killing Super Shenron, like King Piccolo had done with regular Shenron) was just an example of how idiotic GT was in terms of forced tear-jerking. Sacrifices make us sad when they're necessary and unavoidable. But when they are fully avoidable it's not sad, it's just fucking stupid. The very same happened with the ending of GT and Goku leaving with Shenron. That was meant to be sad, but it makes no sense at all for a number of reasons. Removing Earth's Dragonballs would be a less preferable solution for real Goku than just waiting until the story repeats itself and he has strong opponents to fight again; Shenron shouldn't have had enough agency and power to just go and decide that the DBs must be removed (Shenron is but a servant of Dende, remember?) and Goku leaving accomplished nothing practical and had no justification at all, if only to make us sad and give us a sense of ultimacy. With no foundation. So yeah, among GT's many, many problems, I feel these are among the most serious ones.

"It's basically negative energy comming to bite the characters in the bum." .....Janemba?

I actually liked that they turned Goku back into a kid. Not because of "omg, it's such a great change to relive the old dragon ball days" but because it dialed back his power and thus the ridiculous power creep that the series had already built up, so that they didn't wind up having to fight against straight up gods or what have you. I mean, that would be really bad writing; who the hell would endorse tha-- oh. Damn it...

The overclocked androids sounds kinda dumb. As does killing Goku at the start. Your basically redoing ideas in Z only lamer. The androids going after Goku again, and killing Goku at the start of the show again. Neither idea is really an improvement.

Goku had the mind of an adult? I must have missed that plot twist ;-)

When Pilaf wish that Goku was a kid again, he not only makes Goku a kid again but also gives Goku his tail back.

Unpopular opinion, I actually loved GT.

I really like the story for super after the Golden Frieza arc, things get really good, that's why I think making the movies into arcs were a really bad idea, I liked the movies but it just really wasn't needed. For me what really bums me out about super is more of the fighting choreography than the animation, I can handle a couple of derpy faces once and a while, but the action get so shitty sometimes especially after you watched the two movies, it felt like a longer downgraded version of the movies BOG and Golden Frieza arc in my opinion. z and gt had some pretty bad ass fight scenes so i don't know why super can't have them.

Love everything about GT Vegeta's look.

No one kill me but......I loved GT! I agree that with what you said about its improvements but it is definitely my favorite DragonBall series to date

4:55, He keeps saying superghdgkjnfkjdhjhdgfdf's but aren't they called Tuffles?

The name change of the Devil Dragons are really unnecessary to me. Yes, Yixinglong, Liangxinglong, Sanxinglong, Sixinglong, Wuxinglong, Liuxinglong and Qixinglong are confusing names, but at least, they are named after their balls.

No discussion needed. You fixed it.

Bulla/Bra should tag along with them on space adventure too, it was like only opportunity for her to be important and maybe even Uub, because why not...