Dragons' morals tested in gambling business pitch! | Dragons' Den - BBC 

"we prefer to call them suprise mechanics"

It's not a slot machine, it's a SURPRIIIIISE MECHANIC.

@albert fish Yeah and you can bet their "skill based question" takes actual skill. Have you never seen a prize competition on TV or in papers where you have to answer a question that's something like whats 2+2? This is exactly like that

They are part of our suprise mechanics good sir

@JJ Hunt plus you know what are the number balls in there so you know the probability

He was out! He collapsed with shock :)

lol

Mapantz1 will

Omg lol ...

US troops on patrol in Afghanistan suddenly come under intense fire from the Taliban. After 5 min of laying down overwhelming return fire the platoon sergeant yells back to PVC. Jenny. "JENNY AMMO!" Jenny: I'm out

gosh u r bad

LMHO

SHE TEASING lawl

omg

well you know this is not final right? lots of deals have been canceled after the show. so no reall reason for her to be scared of having to make a deal

I've placed a few bets on their site over the months. One comment that made me boycott them, was a guy on the facebook page basically saying "I've got a real bad gambling problem, I cant stop buying tickets and I need help". They responded to him simply with "Good luck with that. Make sure you buy more tickets tho as the higher the amount of tickets you buy, the better the odds of winning". Such a predatory form of gambling. They dont care.

She wasnt really in. She just needed to meet the quota of at least 1 offer per season. She also was tired of the accurate youtube comments, calling her out and making fun of her.

gamblers aren't victims lol

@@AH-te5gs yes.. anyone with no morals and the spare cash would make an offer..

She must have been reading the comments section

Hi Nathan, this was not a fix. Thanks

@@elitecompetitions1 calm down Sharon it's a joke

It looked scripted.

Chris po

Lmfao

True

Funny thing is, in her two series, she made as many investments than peter in the first 4 series xD

Junaid Amin cats and dogs living togeter, mass hysteria!

5p shopping bags, this is the society we live in!

United lost it not mourinho

Ole is now at the wheel so order restored. Excuse my sarcasim

Fury got robbed and joshua tkod!

she always make an offer when she smells easy money XD

Well she always pulls out before the deal goes thru so there's no point in accepting her offers

Funny thing is, in her two series, she made more investments than peter in the first 4

Do your research…Jenny actually carries through on her investments unlike the other dragons and has actually had more success with her investments..despite her rarely making offers…she’s just frugal and won’t throw her money about as much as the others..

anyone with no morals and the spare cash would make an offer..

And for that reason, I'm out.

anyone who realises the cameras are there will not make an offer.

Just so you know for the future, it should be ‘have’ and not ‘of’

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He was pointing out that he went into development right after the a-levels, which is unusual.

@хнопыть АНТИХАЙП!

I found business studies A level harder than undergrad math... there's a reason why 2/3 businesses fail in their first year. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

@@vivavaldez87 A level doesn't go into much depth at all though. You're in the minority if you find undergrad math easier than a level business studies. A majority of the people would find business a level easier than even a level math let alone undergrad (from what I've seen anyway, this is mostly just from the stats of the AQA and OCR boards. I'm not sure how Edexcel specs fare)

@Rich 91 yeah, I know it's easier overall (well, the first two years, I'm not sure about the other two yet) but I'm just comparing undergraduate maths Vs a level business studies. Most people I have met have found undergrad maths harder.

Jenny ‘I’m a Northern Girl’ Campbell

Dayyan Sheikh it’s called a lift for a start, and the lift is probably just a set piece and not a working model

The “lift” won’t move it’ll just open one door then the other

Dayyan Sheikh - it’s most likely just a set, only 3 walls etc so car can just be driven in

@@handsoffmycactus2958 it might be called "lift" in your variation of the language, in American English it's called elevator. So it's not wrong.

@@handsoffmycactus2958 that's just you being racist. Both terms are correct and therefore should not be corrected. End of discussion.

Swrve™ when you travel or have a young child, sleep is a luxury.

Tej is the sharpest of the dragons but I think he’s more into tangible products.

@@Helloooooo sleep shouldnt be a luxury it is compulsory, we need to sleep and thats a face but there you have it

Swrve™ as old saying says I follow my goals while you dream about them

vondahe And vitamins

rick and morty

It's not, they gamble with each other. The excess money gets sent to a volcano.

😂

Lol, holy shit ...

anyone with no morals and the spare cash would make an offer..

Who wants work with a woman

@@hudhastings1 probably not a deeply closeted homosexual..

@@andipandi5641 Women are not good in business its in there genes. These 2 female dragons are only there because of tokenism. I wouldn't risk my money for feminism PC crap.

as if he is such a saint ..... he was a big dodgy person when he started his business

@@zackbrown5201 EXACTLY well put!

@zach source?

Answer: All of them.

@@zackbrown5201 and people can't learn over time with experience? I was a right little sod when younger. I'm not judged by me 10 years ago as I've learnt and grown.

Top 10 anime lies

Watchmojo top 10 anime betrayals

😂

came to the comments just to see if anyone else thought the same lmao

Who??????

Ayham Shaheed he totally does lol.

CantStopCor The Goat 😂

Yeah but casinos are gambling businesses. These guys are claiming to be a non-gambling organisation so they can even legitly get underage people as well in it, hence Peter's concern.

@@yunsha9986 Peter said nothing about being concerned for underage gamblers. He said he was concerned for addicts and for the people that lost.

He's probably not investing in casinos either.

@@schreingeiss That's a great point. And Im sure hes not.

@@bellmeisterful thank you!

they actually don't use any skill based anything anymore, i've been using elite competitions since long before they went on the show, and they used to use questions based on each product, since the show they've taken that away completely so you just select what numbers you want and pay. they also have on the site that each person can buy 10 tickets MAX, but this is also a lie and you can actually buy as many as you like. obviously a carnival game is alot more based on skill than these competition sites and if it isn't rigged then you have a higher chance of winning,

@@jay278822 Just took a look at the site, They are offering 10 year old secondhand car as a prize lol, The site must be a scam.

@@TheWacoKid1963 check the winners page 👍

@@jay278822 What am i looking for? friends of site owners or their family?

@@TheWacoKid1963 lmfao

Yes

😂😂😂😂

And for that reason, I'm stout.

Richard Bedford not the company fault if you choose to start. as long as their legitimate and give a prize then i couldn’t care if people get addicted

Joshua CC W What goes around comes around. Mark my words, you WILL be in a position where you need someone’s, anyone’s help, and just like you, they will look at you and say, I don’t care. And you will feel how low humans can fall.

Johnjohntv 69 well no, because im surrounded by people who make smart decisions like myself. and we don’t bs either. if someone does something stupid we tell them

Joshua CC W You sound very naive. I’ve seen how people can change, people you’d think would NEVER change. Everybody falls eventually.

@@johnjohntv1195 incorrect

lol

Old old joke

Maximus hobbs 7 months ago

Jenny: I’ll make you an offer Guys: Yeh, we’re out!

It’s all a front

I thought the same but isnt it the same if you win in business someone else is losing money this always has been the case since our beginning of human life i take your land i survive for my expanding family you have less and maybe die

They just said that to save face, I bet they'd chew your arm off for a £5 note

What a joke! He is just moral grandstanding.

@Dion St. Michael Do you not understand what the purpose of a business is?

@Dion St. Michael Relax and go do some meditation

Bruceterbear Also Jenny: is this a possibly morally wrong business? Guy: ye- Jenny: I’m in

I dunno, she wanted out.

Nah its someone with a dog mask.

Yes it is but nothing wrong with it if you are straight forward about it.

Yes, it is worth pointing out how much of what is going on in this show is gambling. Also, people can ruthlessly attain a reputation of being a benefactor, so appearances are often deceiving. Just look at what a bullshit reputation the word "philanthropist" has gotten because of this. - That people thank those who provide their networking services in exchange for a part of their business leaves a bad aftertaste. Thanking them for their selfish motivations? That's very socially erosive through confusing people's ethical values and world view.

Dowlphwin Yes! I love this comment. M People seem to forget that any investment is gambling. You are putting up money in hopes of making more money.....any situation where money is paid to potentially make more money is, in a nut shell, gambling.

@@laurenquinn877 investments isn't gambling!

Hari Singh investing is gambling it’s just gambling has a lower chance of you getting a return.

*Business owner walks into the room* Jenny: Don't say it Don't say it Don't say it Don't say it "I'm sorry but I'm out"

Jota -The Magician 😂😂

Yeah this comment is really original, well done.

I was thinking the same thing, why would business investors like these give a shit about morals? at the end of the day, the main thing they're in it for is the money.

@@grimsleeper5945 There's a huge difference between taking peoples money and taking addicts money.

i think genuine sense of ethics.. they can already present a good image without mentioning the dubious nature of this particular venture..

Or possibly it could all just be a cynic with a youtube account. :)

are the two mutually exclusive? because i have the feeling we're both right

@Alex Palacios i swear tuker and tej only went down to 20% to beat Jenny lmao she was a broken woman after that moment

Who do I have to blow to get a deal around here?

I’ve actually known about a dozen gamblers who are what is known as “self barred.” The casinos don’t generally let them back in, even if they ask to have it undone, due to liability concerns. But the vast majority who have a problem won’t ask to be banned.

There is a genuine common practice in the industry for problem gamblers to have themselves added to a ban list to prevent them from entering or gambling at casinos and similar and the casinos take it extremely seriously; I once had to wait to claim a $10 prize from a charity bingo competition held at a casino because the staff had to verify that my name wasn’t on their list. It obviously doesn’t help you recognize the problem, but if you’re someone with poor self control but who recognizes the problem it can help prevent you from making impulsive decisions to give into the addiction. Nonetheless, it’s not exactly a great answer in the Den considering they sound like they never considered it as a problem. They could have at least mentioned that it’s a common gambling industry practice rather than sounding like they’re just spitballing.

I have a friend who is self-barred. I'm pretty sure it's common. He actually went into crypto, buy a bunch of crypto and then played gambling games with crypto ; seems like they don't verify if you are self-barred... And he lost everything...

lmao but wtf happened to his noee

"principles" a.k.a. public relations image

Principles 😂😂

@@jacejohnson7113 you racist ass. Not all asians are like that. I'm from Singapore and we fine our own citizens $100 per entry to our OWN casino to date gambling. What about YOUR country? Does it do that?

@@jacejohnson7113 just because someone is willing to invest in such a business, doesn't mean they lack morals. And, you added the Asian aspect to it. Stepping on so many landmines keeps you from being taken even a little seriously.

These people have no principles; they merely pretend that they do, in order to protect themselves from public hatred. Peter Jones certainly does not, he would not invest £1,000 in a polar-bear saving company if it was not a profitable investment for him.

AMINAHA MOHSIN switch off the predictive text, investigating ? Remember the comedy The Office ? Gareth Keenan 'invetigates'

Check what you've typed before hitting Enter. Idiot.

@@cubeyuk Chill out, it was probably predictive text. I'm sure you've made mistakes yourself (and that's fine, we all do).

How do you know?

LOL

25% is f greedy

You’re

Its very common to self-exclude yourself, there are actually cameras with face reading tech in every legal casino looking for these self excluded gamblers who are addicted and whose lives are ruined because of their addiction to gambling.

I think it was probably because Taj and him both said 25%, whereas Jenny was only 20%. So if he went with Jenny, he'd have to go to 10% each instead

Mason Davies Right? 😂

it because it is on television and they want to virtue signal in reel life they would not care to invest in the sliziest gambling operation