@@InsaneManiiac the accountability is lettin you know that I will make mistakes, but it’s not because I don’t know what I’m talking about. It’s because I’m human and I’m speaking to everyone like they’re my friends. I try to be as organic and authentic as possible brother. Believe me I will make a mistake again
I remember I saw a stand up bit about the names for those age ranges and I only got reminded when it got brought up again. That shit is disgusting and it tries to move the moral goalpost
@@monicarenee7949 A song where he both said he "fed the man the information" and then said "whoever fed him the information is a clown," man was so frantic about this he couldn't even proofread his own song. Other weird highlights of that song are "I can't be a sex criminal, I'm RICH" and also name dropped to Millie Bobby Brown even though nobody brought her up, before that song I was just suspicious after that song I was concerned.
That law is actually taken out of context. The age of consent is 16, but they can only consent to have relations with someone up to 18 years old. NOT SOMEONE IN THEIR 30’S.
The age of consent varies from 16-18 in the western world. I don’t see it as an argument because people personal feelings about it will overrule any laws that allows for it (or honest adult conversation about it).
@@Ignoreduser I don't care how much i like somebodys music if people start pointing fingers and calling PEDO I'm not sticking around like at best its good luck dog i hope you prove them wrong
@@magenlinpeople can listen to whoever they want. It’s not like there hasn’t been dozens of problematic artists who people still listen to today, sure Marvin’ Gaye is dead but he’s a 🐐 regardless
@@romaretaylor9953 bro I don't know what Marvin Gaye did but if you want to fill me in on that I will be happy to not support any predator or pedo. Just let me know because I am trying to keep the moral high ground at all times LOL
@@Ignoreduser For the public at large, age grouping this topic is SUS at best. I understand the notion of calling things by their proper name, but in this case, the proper name is a moot point. If a person has publicly demonstrated behavior that would make their intent questionable, then that person has an issue that needs to be addressed. Large age gap relationships are given the side eye by a lot of people. When you add in that the elder person had any level of interest in the younger person prior to the generally accepted age of majority (18), things begin to look really bad for the elder person. It may be legal, but to a lot of folks, the legality of the situation is splitting the hair a little too fine for comfort.
@@latonyajefferson9699 there you go: Gag gap. People’s ick when it comes to that. I’m of the mind that there is little to no differences in the physical and mental attributes of anyone from 16-19 (give or take one year or so [not according variables and circumstances]); I believe the only reason it 18 for majority of the states is because of the draft, due in war leave behind a legacy. I personally think it should be 21 due to most people stage in development. I personally hate the fact that people will call you one if you have any knowledge of it.
@@Ignoreduserwhy tf are you fighting in the comments if you just agreed that age of consent should be above 19. Doesn’t that shit prove from your perspective that Drave is a weirdo?
@@Ignoreduser Like I said before, we are talking about the public at large, who for the most part have no understanding of the nuances of the subject. Within the circles of those more knowledgeable on the subject, there are defined delineations between actions which are strictly illegal and actions that are mostly frowned upon within the confines of social acceptance. The general public does not see those lines. They see actions that match up to information they have been trained to recognize. The information they've absorbed does not include these lines (nor will it ever). It is a long and hard road to overturn decades and generations of behavior acceptance. Over the years, there have been numerous public figures/celebrities whose dating history has been not kindly looked upon. Cher and Leonardo DiCaprio come to mind as prime examples. In both cases, their choice of partners over the years has consistently been within a certain age range. As a result, as they get older, their preferences in partner age becomes more questionable in terms of social acceptability. Now to be fair to both Leo and Cher, neither has ever been accused of being too close socially to underaged people. On the other hand, Drake has a recorded history of being involved in the social lives of underaged girls in a way that doesn't look good to a lot of people. The fact that the girls in question seem to have no idea of the perceptions that the public has on their friendship with Drake is a failure on the part of their parents, imo.
Is everyone gonna ignore the fact that Dj Ak went on stream and said Drake lied about feeding anyone any info bc he knew his fans would just go with it and he says Drake lied about Dave Free being the father to one of Kendrick's kids!? I don't understand how when the biggest Drake meat rider and Drake himself day something it's gospel but when one of them says they he lied it's ignored 😭
Yeah that’s the part that I think needs to be looked at a lot more. Is that the whole “drake fed Kendrick fake info.” Never happened. And if you really think about the line, Drake used, he actually said he knew Kendrick was going to call him a PDF file and run the story about the daughter, but now more receipts have dropped and like you said AK flat out admitted that Drake didn’t send any fake info. It really does seem like the more and more time that’s past since the songs dropped. It’s actually gotten worse for Drake and the people that publicly support him.
I'm telling you Akademiks is lowkey not that big of a drake fan. I think he just plays it up for content or maybe he's getting paid to keep up the shtick.
@@assassinkilla99Still someone said that 24h period was like the Red Wedding and that’s pretty spot on. Like death was in the air but that sequence of events was still WILD to see in realtime with no warning. Euphoria drops on a Tuesday, 6:16 drops that Saturday morning, Family Matters drops that night and then MTG less than an hour later, then Not Like Us on Sunday morning. Like yeah something was coming but we didn’t know it would be THAT
Not only that but people defend him by saying “Oh by the AOC is 16”… THATS STILL A CHILD. He shouldn’t be kissing on kids and talking abt how he likes em grinding their chest on his back like ??? 😭
Not even true either. 16 is for a romeno and juliet law cuz my state has the same shit. 16 if their partner is 18 only. 2 yrs thats it. Anyone older going to be arrested for messing with a 16 yr old.
They mostly left long ago when he started to act butthurt and antagonize women who were not thinking about him. It's like the guy that gets rejected and then he replied "f you and you was ugly anyways." At this point, he looks like King of the Incels.
I mean rappers usually don’t jump in other peoples beefs unless they’re looking for clout or something. When meek got bodied in 2015 nobody was out here helping him like that, if Kendrick battled say Lupe and lost I don’t think they’d all be tryna be like “yo leave dot alone man” 😂
@@romaretaylor9953 no not talking bout during the battle im talking bout the fall out where dafuq is his ppl sayin he’s not a pdf file and he doesn’t have any extra kids
@@romaretaylor9953 shiiit if someone said one of my home boys was a pedo and I know he’s clearly not im stepping in that shit can legit ruin or end a dudes life💀
@@romaretaylor9953 I wanna see a Lupe Kendrick beef (not so volatile though) cause usually bros be apologizing to Kendrick before stuff kicks off idk why people tip toe around him so much💀
@@Ignoreduserit's proof what it's repeated multiple times in multiple songs with multiple videos of interviews and people talking about it. I get it you're unintelligent but it shouldn't be that hard to get
@@Plutosmoon660 again, I ask, how come he doesn't have to prove that he knows Kendrick's son isn't his? I'm talking about the son SPECIFICALLY!!! He said in The Heart Pt. 6 that everything he has stated is 100% facts.
@@extracheesepl0xdrake does not have to tell how he knows, but if he says it's a fact. Maybe that's why they haven't married after 14 years, and there not together.
@@Plutosmoon660wait wait so lemme get this straight Drake stuff is automatically true because of some random posts and he isn’t married but Drake getting LITERALLY photographed with these minors and them coming out themselves and saying Drake dmed them is not proof?
I’ve noticed it’s an overwhelming amount of men who are defending Drake like their lives depend on it. I understand having a favorite artist but you gotta be realistic with it as well. Drake himself knew that Kendrick was going to take the young girl approach because he said as much in Taylormade Freestyle. Like why even bring it up yourself if you don’t see an issue with it? Then he associates himself with people who’s had cases of pedophilia and sex trafficking against them. When everything is said and done and if Drake is found out to be exactly what Kendrick said, I just hope and pray a lot of you all change your stances on your favorite artist rather than regurgitating the same tired arguments about the age of consent.
I must be forgetful because I can't remember anyone saying Jay-Z's career was over after Ether dropped. I did hear a lot of people saying that Jay-Z would never come back from this [in his battle with Nas] and that's true. It breathed new life into Nas's career and Jay-Z had to a do a lot of collaborations and getting rid of his biggest competition at Def Jam first before he was able to bounce back again. However Ether never became a worldwide hit. Not Like Us is even played at sporting events and usually songs that make it to sports are there to stay for a long time
Thank you so much for speaking on Mal, I had a hard time listening to his yapping. My favorite part is when Rory told him that if Drake dropped "Not like us" Mal would call it a banger, and he was just sitting there silent.
I don’t see people giving him props for those things, but if they don’t wanna give up all his music forever that’s their choice, people in general have been doing this with numerous artists since…forever lol
It’s funny how Drake defenders are adamant about the PDF file allegations, but have no answers for the fact that Drake contributes nothing to the Black culture, stands up for absolutely no Black issues, yet craves acceptance from black culture. The biggest L
I think the more serious question is whether he’s a pedophile. There’s nothing morally deplorable about not contributing back to a culture. There is objectively something morally deplorable about sleeping with children. That matters more and speaks more to his character and I have not yet seen any evidence outside of arguments of speculation.
I think the more serious question is whether he’s a PD file. There’s nothing morally deplorable about not contributing to a culture. There is objectively something morally deplorable about sleeping with children. That being said, I haven’t seen any evidence that he has been involved sexually with minors. That speaks more to his character on a personal level so ofc something as broad as a culture won’t be as defended when it comes to what could quite literally destroy someone if there’s evidence which like I said has not been shown at least outside of speculation.
And honestly how can not contributing to a culture be a bigger L than literally being a PD file?(which is what most Kendrick fans are riding on to prove Drake lost, that is without evidence).
@@L154N4LG4IB also, the Bella Harris situation among others, do not confirm the PDF allegations but at the very least confirm he engages in rather odd behavior. He has pics of him caked up with a 16 yr old, then two years later is on a date with her, that’s grooming
It's weird how hard it is for some people to accept that their guy took an L. Especially considering how obvious it is who won and who lost. Just accept it, and move on. It's not the end of the world. Just be happy that we got to experience one of the biggest moments in the history of hip hop.
its cuz theyre so emotionally connected to this random man who doesnt even know they exist. theyre entire emotional state balances on drake's Wins and Losses, its so depressing to watch actually
I always thought Drake was a phony but seeing it unravel was just too perfect. I never wish for someone’s downfall and ngl I didn’t see it coming since he’s so popular but it really is true: The bigger you are, the harder you fall
Drake stans need actually mental help. They act as if Drake has life changing music or has truly changed the world for the better by solving social or economic issues. Drake has no morals, no integrity, and it's seems so does his fans. Just watch how they reacted when he kissed a seventeen year old as a man in his twenties. His legacy is one of a fraud who by being broken at a young age, tried to heal his wounds through success and notoriety. Some of you need to look in the mirror and ask why you love that man so much.
Exactly. I want to know what Drake has done for these fans to make them put him on this pedestal. Look, it’s OK to have your favorite rapper or your favorite athlete I’m not saying that’s not what this is but when you start putting entertainers and athletes on a pedestal so high that you find yourself having a mental breakdown trying to defend them online. I think it’s time to get help. Look all these dudes are human. I have never seen a fanbase like the Drake fan base. I have seen other fan bases that are big, but those fan bases makes sense like Tupac and Kendrick Lamar to me make timeless music that can actually help someone out in dark times. All of drakes music is just about how great Drake thinks Drake is. Or how much he loves Rihanna, which is creepy as fuck. The only thing I can conclude is that drakes fans have some sexual thing for him I don’t think even all of them know about it, but that’s the only thing I can come up with why another man over the age of 25 would would twerk so hard for another man.
To be fair, much of what you said applies to Kendrick as well. Though, Drake's actions toward teenage girls is more concerning. People need to stop idolizing celebrities altogether.
@@J-Hue Does it really apply? Nobody ever has something to say about kendrick, he seems to stay out of internet shit(until now), he is always with his family, he doesnt play a character like Drake, we dont really have anything to sya about kendrick caracter. People need to stop saying "the same applies to Kendrick as well" when its not reality, there are pages and pages about Drake being a bad person/fishy, never seen K-dot prey on new artists like Drake does, and doing half of the Bs Drake does, and im not even counting the pedo aspect. Still dont idolize celebrities, i love Kendrick music, that mf is not my friend or family
Just a sidenote, the biggest knockout blow in this song was not like us, and there wasn’t one lie in that song. Everything in that song was true. There was not one mention of the alleged daughter . That, and really, since the song stopped coming, there’s been more and more evidence to support that Drake lied more than Kendrick did. There has not been one receipt produced to back up anything Drake said about Kendrick. Not one. But there are 20 minute videos on RU-vid exposing Drake as someone that does like underage girls.
@@itsdacj For one, that verse is on Meet The Grahams, not Not Like Us. 2, there's no proof she is fake or real. AK admitted Drake lied about feeding the info, so that's out the window. She's Schrödinger's daughter at this point. She both exists and doesn't until observed. We may never know, but we do know Drake lied about feeding the info.
Man what??? I tell ppl if they make way more money than me then u damn sure better be better than me because I know for a fact I’m waaay better than these guys it’s plenty of unsigned guys who make better music
What's easier to happen? A die-hard Kendrick Fan acknowledging that Push-ups and Family Matters are NASTY disses (which is a "good" thing); An average Drake fan acknowledging any of Kendrick disses as slightly good. I have to myself that Drake fans are not very mature. They tend to be more radical in labeling something as "fire" or "trash". As the majority of people arent big fans of both and it's almost common sense that Kendrick won, it's crazy how can someone be *that* radical and can't see what's happening under their noses.
Push Ups was a better diss than Family Matters. Only part of Family Matters I like is the intro. It kinda falls apart after that, as he just kinda seems to be rambling and isn't focused in like he should be. He just kinda threw stuff out there, while MTG paints a portrait of a man. Same with Story of Adidon. I feel like people just like the sound of Family Matters, but Push Ups at least felt like he was trying to break down who Kendrick was to his audience.
it’s just that with the outcome kinda clear to us, those drake tracks lost any substance and meaning as soon as MTG and Not Like Us came out and dominated, like why listen to a losers words in which he lies and barely tries
As an individual who has listened and knows firsthand the reason for the beefs and the worst that was said about someone up until this beef was either stuff already known or being alleged before the diss tracks and we now learning majority of the stuff said in those diss tracks was true. I also never seen people try to defend someone so hard they start becoming a lawyer and going over technical terms. Just wow, it just shows that the man's own fans believe it or already knew and are upset someone finally said it.
I love when people use the argument “well Drake is wealthier” as their main argument to why he is the better artist. I think at this stage in most artists careers the difference between 150 million and 200 million is based solely on fan base perception. I will say in terms of accomplishments being centered around records sold is subjective as no Kendrick is not close but in terms of accolades Kendrick wins by miles
Same lol. I’m old so I remember when Drake first started in music. I was in high school and had already been getting really music and hip hop since about 5th grade. Never would have figured that this guy would have such a long career. Between Lil Wayne, T.I., The Game, and Kanye all doing their thing at or near the peak of their powers and up and comers like Kid Cudi, Black Hippy collective, odd future, and the ASAP clique Drake was such a bland nobody who only weirdos who watched Degrassi seemed to latch onto. I actually wasn’t even aware of how much success he has had until this beef highlighted it. I was aware of the moments like Hotline Bling and whatnot. I guess I just don’t even think of him as a hip hop artist and a lot of popular music never makes it in my rotation.
honestly you're my favorite creator, i love the way you speak, get to the point and not beat round the bush, man! looking forward to more content from you.
Yeah, I admit I didn’t know a lot about Drake fans before this but when you put someone on a pedestal so high that you think that they can do no wrong you are now saying that Man is now more than human. I’ve seen so many Drake fans just willingly not look at evidence, because they just didn’t want to believe certain shit. Like as a grown man, you are not supposed to worship another grown man that much. That’s number one giveaway to be a beta male. And someone just won the battle does not mean they are worshiping Kendrick Lamar, because some of us have been around hip-hop long enough know that when it comes to a battle, you need to throw the “whoever the most popular is “ Out the window, because look at the past. Imagine if all of us old heads back in the day just went with whoever was the most popular. If that were the case, the outcome of many of hip-hop’s best battles would’ve changed because people were just going for whoever the most popular is. NWA was more popular as a group than Ice Cube was as a solo artist. Imagine the history books, if everyone just said NWA won that battle, despite Cube lyrically, tearing them all apart, one by one in one song. Sorry Drake fans just because you love Drake doesn’t mean we’re going to say he won . And if you’re acting like that, you don’t appreciate the sport of hip-hop, the competitiveness of it all. Look, I can’t imagine anyone besides Mal or AK , those two lost a lot of cool points during this. If you’re over the age of 30 and you were cheerleading for another man that hard Euro beta. There is no other way to put it. Do not worship any other man on that level. There’s something about fans of Drake and LeBron James that I think there’s a weird sexual thing with their fans that they don’t want to admit because it doesn’t make sense any other way. And I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with being bisexual or gay but if that’s why you’re pulling for these men Jesus Christ they’re not going to fuck you because you think they’re better.
There are multiple and they're not really relevant unless you're having academic discussions. When it comes to who an adult should be dating NONE of them are OK
My boyyyy you did right by banning that foo!! Not ‘who’ would know that, ‘Who’ TF would wanna know that?!! Ya bro we don’t need em on this side, let drake have those weirdos 💀
In a world where we can see celebrities living good off OUR hard earned money, I believe Drake is heavily disliked now bc he gets away with being a light skinned, interracial emo-rapper who is a “black African American” culture obsessing Canadian who does not have a squeaky clean record and doesn’t do anything to truly help black people. He drains us dry and has wanted us to praise him for years which many of us did for too long. He makes good music. He’s a great actor. He imitates many dialects and sounds well. But he’s still a predator. He’s still unoriginal. And he’s still trying his best to cover that he has internal demons that he needs to fight. He’s not perfect and this journey has exposed just that.
Anyone who goes out they way to explain age range and start bringing up technicalities feels like is self-snitching at that point - I don't even care or want to know how - its just too many red flags at that point. On a lighter note, drake has some bops I fux with. Low key, it wasn't even hate for drake that got me enjoying his bodying in this beef - I'm not even that deep into him (pause). It was just some of the annoying things his fans be saying that activated the hater virus Kendrick coughed on me during covid - I became a hater. I could have acted my age and been an adult and taken the high road and shit but sorry Machelle Obama, I'm going low-er 😂.
I think the other big thing is that when you reach ages 20-25 and above, you see the differences in mindset (hopefully). So interacting with anyone with a teen in their age,let alone dating/flirting/etc, gives major ick. It's literally a you'll understand when you're older.
The Canadian age of consent at 16 is conditional too, that's predicated on no relationships of power, the largest rapper in Canada has a relationship of power over every minor in the damn country.
Wasn’t it true that Kendrick had some of the songs written and produced months in advance (if it’s not correct me). So if this is true how long was Drake feeding him this stuff? I feel like feeding someone information that would directly make you look so terrible. Makes no sense to me.
drake tried to toosie slide up outta this one by saying they fed him fake info and his groupies are running with it to save face when really everything kendrick said was public info already from the young girls to his association with sex traffickers (people were talking about the daughter years ago too and i still believe thats true bc drake denied adonis existed as well for a whole year after push whooped his ass), that man probably didn't even have a mole in ovo. i don't know about the songs being produced months in advance but i do think that while everyone was taunting him to drop, kendrick went to the studio to cook and created tracks for all angles drake might come at him for and knowing drake, family was bound to get mentioned again so kendrick had mtg ready to go and 6:16 in la was just bait for drake to release his bomb. that's my theory at least but who knows, kendrick did say he can go further so..
Also wassup Rose, love your videos, you're an awesome dude and you're breakdowns are dope. I respect the way you come from a non bias aspect of things when it comes to hip-hop. These people can learn a thing from you. Also apologies for my previous rant to these Drake stans.
5:37 mal still doesnt know that. None of us know what either of them lied about. (Except we do now know that drake lied about giving Ken the pill bottles)!The fact that Drake finds focus so much on this and not the music is telling
I found this channel through the beef, I like the engagement you put in, I felt like you were pretty neutral in presenting your opinion. Oh well you can't make everyone happy best of luck to you in gaining more success
The Drizzy Glizzy gang's problem isn't that they like Drake like they think it is. It's the fact they like to play ignorant to the wrong doings that Drake does, they like to ignore that he has be putting out half ass music, and they refuse to believe that he can be a horrible person
Kendrick told you to think about it but he is not your savior J cole told you to feel empowered but he is not your savior Future told you to buy a money counter he is not your savior
u actually bring up some good points and i have been watching ur vids throughout the beef and thankfully i stumbled upon a good content creator who is actually kinda smart and puts effort in. now ill give u ur deserved sub keep up the good work homie. sorry for the yapping lol
@@_FLWRS For future reference, they saw it (like I did) bc you missed it on one of your screenshots. Personally, I feel like people posting their opinions online shouldn’t be spared. But since you want to be more responsible than that, you only missed blacking it out once, but that made the audience pay more attention
