Many people think that Drakes First loss in Hip Hop was To Pusha-T but the beef that's over looked is his feud with Common! I decided to breakdown the beef in detail in this one.
Drake throws rocks and hides his hand. He had plenty of things to say subliminally and on stage but when he was called out for it and it was time to ACTUALLY get down for real, he completely ducked Common. It’s an undeniable loss.
You're undeniably not smart or pretending to be dumb for engagement lmao Drake smoked him with a classic verse and went on about his career 😂 You think the biggest rapper at this time was gonna go on a 60 part rap battle with a semi old-school rapper on some 8 mile sh!t ? Then common even admitted he was in his feelings cuz Drake smashed serena. Claming this is a Drake L is dumb. Get your views up with drake, it's ok, the content is not bad, but don' be dumb, we got enough dumb youtubers.
@@SpectaSaySoyou sound dumb asf it’s rap not fighting. Everything he said is facts. If that’s the case y tf did drake respond at his show and subliminally in stay scheming?! Exactly!!
FRFR ON GOD!!! YOU WOULD NEVER!!!!! SEE OR HEAR AUBREY TALKING SHIT ABOUT CUBE, OR EAZY, OR DRE, OR DUB C, MACK 10 , SNOOP ETC ETC HE WOULD NEVER HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY ANYTHING LIKE COMMON!! IF DRAKE WENT AT NWA CALLIN ONE OF THEIR MOMS A BITCH, WE'D NEVER HEAR FROM HIM AGAIN!!!
Well he was smart, cuz Houston doesn't play and that's drakes second home, of this went to the street common loses, Houston is the underground prince of hip hop
“I heard you said you wasn’t a bitch because you sing. You a bitch because you cling like a bitch that’s eighteen.” That shit was hard and it rings true over a decade later.
Didn’t lose to common. Pusha TMZ never finished because J Prince ended it. Kendrick beef isn’t done yet Kendrick is too scared to respond to the allegations on the heart pt 6
Asserting that nobody looked at Common as a "tough guy" because he didn't portray himself as a gangster or make music about being so is kind of wild. Masculinity isn't defined by criminality. There's plenty of "soft" guys in prison.
I’m not saying that it’s about criminality. But when it comes down to his music (which was 40’s argument) he wasn’t the best person to be calling anyone “soft” or “sweet”. Are you familiar with his catalogue?
Unless you’re from Chicago and of a certain age you know common and where he’s from. I’m from the crib and in my mid 40’s common was a 4CH (4 Corner Hustler) from the crib. He’s of the old school pedigree of rappers before NWA came on the scene. It’s like he don’t need to promote the thug in his music real G’s didn’t rap about the life . If you know you know. Look up Chicago 4 corner hustlers.
@@whatsthedirt Oooh ok I get it. How could Common call Drake “sweet” for his singing material when your biggest hit is “The Light”? However, you did put A LOT of emphasis on acting “hard” & criminology being essential “masculine” traits to be respected in Hip Hop, which is an uncultured take & to the original commenter’s point, just wrong.
I’ve never taken Common to be “soft”, but I think he’s matured enough to pursue a certain sense of peace that isn’t always achieved or seen in hip hop.
Nobody pushed him though lmfao. I cant stand drake, he sucks. But that is irrelevant to get so upset your girl moved on from you that you have to insult someone else's parents is BEYOND childish
Common is super confident and comfortable in his lane. Him and Chicago rappers apparently dont need to appear like gangsters. I've never ever felt that Common lacks masculinity.
I hate how outsiders to the culture get this so twisted. Seeing Common as somehow soft is a mistake we don't make in these very neighborhoods Drake wish he was from. And idk who this youtuber is, but Common .... and Drake.... are nowhere near the same galaxies of cultural respect, or hip hop respect. Drake just richer.
Common is definitely a picture of masculinity... What are you talking about? He isn't a gangsta, talking about banging and killing, but he is definitely the picture of a REAL MAN.
@@kasalwemusonda6325 he literally said common isn’t exactly the picture of masculinity. I think he shoulda chose better words. Common grew up in the streets and has the experience to prove it but he doesn’t have to rap about that anymore because he’s grown and made a way out.
@monicarenee7949 during that era his style was on no street ish so it was deemed as soft underground rap. That's how it was all looked at unless it was grimey underground rap
Y’all must’ve forgot that Common murked a "Death Certificate" era Ice Cube with the track "Bitch in you" don’t let the books and crochet hats fool ya. He’s that dude for real
Yeah. See this is why not just anybody can report on rap...Common is from the west side of Chi. & Nobody EVER questioned if he was hip hop...........EVER. .
Facts. I was wondering what he was talking about myself lol. Apparently, he didn't hear the Ice Cube diss either. We built a little different in Chicago. Built off of that mob mentality. There's strength in silence.
Like your breakdowns but masculinity and being a thug are two different things. There are plenty of positive masculine men who are far from thugs and thug behavior. Common makes good music that pushes positive vibes and love. Ain’t nothing feminine about that!
@blammela and to do it in Chicago with full confidence, it is not soft sweet or feminine or fake... it's just a man being himself. Why are all these people from other countries and rural or suburban areas so determined to quantify the AA city community experience? I grew up on the eastside of Detroit. While I had a great childhood overall, I don't suggest anyone sign up for the experiences we went through there. Why.... is evryone so obsessed with our culture and experiences to the point they feel they can tell US about US?!
The problem is everyone takes kindness, calmness and respectful for weak because your gangsta it isn’t put on display for everyone to see. The real killers move in silence and you’ll never see it coming. Today’s tough guys are only tough because who they have around them. If you need someone to put the battery in your back to be tough you’re clearly not built for it. Facts!!
Real G’s move in silence. Common ain’t never tried to be a thug, but hey never carried himself as non-masculine. And he rolled with real life hustlers from the Chi, but don’t overplay it. He never backed down from a conflict, he always said names when he wanted to/ challenged and returned volleys lyrically. He waxed Westside Connection by HIMSELF and made folks respect his pen. He ATE Cube. One of most feared MCs at the time. With ease. You ain’t gotta shoot guns and posture to be masculine. That’s an insult to real men everywhere.
@@justinspeegle4668 real men only shoot guns when there’s no other option. Not like these little kids going out looking for trouble and hitting everything but their intended target
Common performed "Bitch in Yoo" in LA at the House of Blues at a time where things really did happed to rappers. I looked at Common with more reverence than gangster rappers bc he was low key but also willing to jump when rappers got froggish.
“No one looks a Common as a street thug” is wildly inappropriate. I’m from Chicago, right off 79th/Stony Island, around the same vicinity where Rah is from. He’s a 4CH and a former stick up kid. He’s also smart enough not to put any incriminating material in his raps. Go check out My Block: Chicago. He had Sway out east on Stony, and he’s clearly seen shaking up with people on the block. Even at the height of his career people knew what time it was with him.
Thank you for saying this. They tried to play with his name like he’s sweet but little do they know he’s WELL respected in the industry and the streets.
Facts.... I'm from Brooklyn but stayed on 84/Paulina and my cousin was acquaintances with common threw the music and bro Street cred is real... Even dudes from U.A.C wasn't no joke
Common was never considered soft. He's just a conscious rapper. Conscious rappers aren't soft. They just don't fake being thugs for the industry. You got that twisted. No one considers Black Thought, KRS ONE, or Chuck D soft.
Thank you for emphasizing rapping during beefs. People wanna brag about the numbers and it's okay if you don't bother anything or claim you're the best at rapping, because once you do that then you have to show by rapping why you're at the top. Otherwise, it's for other things and not for outrapping the competition.
The only thing you forgot in your timeline. They did have a heated exchange at the grammy’s but both of their camps kept them apart from each other. Besides that you did a great job!💯
The narrative back then that Drake killed Common. I thought it was cool bars and slick rhymes, but it wasn’t battle bars. Glad to see some folks revisit this.
Even people in hip hop were saying Drake won. Not just the fans. If Common hadn't of dropped that wack Stay Schemin verse, who knows where things could've gone but man that shit was beyond bad for a rapper of his calibre. @@randyjeter90
Fearless and merciless. But my grandmother used to say “a hard head brings a sore ass”. Drake doesn’t learn and I’m here for his dismantlement for All The Dogs.
Unpopular opinion. Duppy freestyle was way better and had better/ more clever Bars then S.O.A, it just had the shocking thing about Drake kid. Which everyday struggle had already talked about months before.
let's not forget Common went at it with the whole Westside Connection in the 90's and BY HIMSELF ... and im from Compton .. Aint nothing soft about Common .. he's just not braggadocios like you're typical rapper.. put Drake and Common in a ring together and im betting Common walks out with the W lmao ..
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There’s actually a lot to unpack in alluding that Beanie is seen as more masculine than Common. Beans did go to prison, so I guess there’s an element of potential danger or doubts about being trustworthy. I think I understand why you said it, and how you said it but in that you should really reflect on why you think people perceive Common as less masculine because he’s fit, groomed and knows how to dress.
@@mauricekimani5968 he really only won because meek decided to tweet instead put it on wax. If he woulda dissed first, it could’ve went either way. And also taking 7 days to respond over the undertaker sample was nuts too 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ meek really fumbled a “gimme”
Yeah... But even that was more of a stupid Meek fumble than an outright Drake win, though. It's the equivalent of clumsily banging your kneecap hard on something directly before a title fight, then fighting at a self-inflicted but real handicap.
thank you for being a stand up person and creator! unlike other people who are just milking this whole drake vs kdot beef and now they have like 50 videos reporting every little thing about it. those are the real culture vultures to me in my eyes.
Major correction: Drake started seeing Serena & started dissing Common out of nowhere which makes Drake the insecure 1. So then Common responds. Then Drake responded with a verse then Common responded with a song. Whether it was over a woman or not, Drake was still insecure enough to start sending shots first because Drake is soft and insecure 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I remember hearing Common diss him on “Sweet” and I couldn’t believe he was snapping on Drake like that lol. “All that singing, la la la, you ain’t no mf Frank Sinatra.” 😂😂😂😂
@@Pat48310 It wasn’t a bar, if you listen, he was just talking on the song at that point lol. And they weren’t together, so Drake “took” no one from common 🤣🤣😂
Yo, I remember this from back in the day. I also agree that everybody knew that “Sweet” was obviously intended for Drake. It’s just that at the time Drake was already huge and today’s younger generation doesn’t even know who Common was (Common’s a legend btw). But I do agree Drake took that “L”. But Common definitely wasn’t afraid of the smoke, ask Ice Cube. 🎤
I'm from Chicago. And common was not seen as one of them ones. I honestly didn't listen to common until the 2010s because he had such a beta male , soft guy energy around him. But he is indeed a dope and skilled rapper. Just too simpy. Other wise I would bump him like nas
@@illuminated_crown yep "Simpy" auto correct got me. And work where? That nigga ain't a Mack 10 he's a 22! On the Dyk of the East for ya first release! they got BODIED!
Common is and has been a dope lyricist, his albums have replay value and most are considered Hip Hop Classic’s, someone like Drake has “hot for a minute” tracks,
Dude u failed to mention the highlight of the beef, when Common pulled up on Drake dolo with no bodyguards or nothing outside an awards show red carpet. Drake's security panicked.
All ima say is looks can be deceiving and don’t take kindness for granted or as a weakness.. Common is well respected in the streets and no one ever thought he was sweet. He stands on all ten toes as a man.
But Drake didn't get an L... Even though Common will always take credit for getting Drake to respond even though he had said "Diss me, you'll never hear a reply for it"
Even the pusha t beef made drake so much more popular. Sure he loses the “beef” but he never really does. Drake is smart and very good at capitalizing on attention.
I like how u put this material out. First, by analysis, since this is more or less doubling as a hip hop channel and a podcast channel on RU-vid referencing what’s really going on in hip hop today, I’d say to not let your guard down on drake. People are buying his albums. Talking about him. Streaming his records. Relating to it more than they relate to others. He’s the talk of the year and even the decade. And in each record he drops, he always disses rappers. Before u released the video on the drake v Kendrick beef, he typically dissed Kendrick again. And again. The next record, he will keep dissing. He is like a ho that had too many niggas bang him wrong. So he puts out his frustrations on record and many relate to it quickly. Plus common is right about one thing - Drake releases ho music. And Common is just one of the few rappers that will call Drake out by name. Drake only hides behind subliminals and it is really good when u gave a crash course on how rap beef works. No one can force Kendrick or Common to release new albums. We are all hoping that those two bring out something good very soon. And that’s because I, for an example, am very tired of listening to one rapper dominating the charts with pillow rap music. One minute, a good dope rapper drops material that should be talked about and the streams comes short. The next minute, drake releases predictable music and everyone be like drake did this and drake did that. It’s tiring.
Had to thumbs down it and shut it off after homie said that " tough guy" line about common ....I realized he really didn't know shit 😒... 1.k + comment thread said it best. Don't speak on the culture again bro .def didn't pass the vibe check
People forget Common had beef with Ice Cube & the Westside Connection. " The Btch in You" track by Common was fire🔥🔥. Plus Common rapped on "REAL" Jay Dilla beats
I don't think its overlooked, the overall sentiment at the time (from my recollection) was Drake either held his own or won the feud with Common. Drake had good responses to Sweet, and then it came out that Common was upset over a woman (Serena Williams)...
Ppl sided with drake like they always do cuz they fanboying that’s it. He didn’t have more than one good response and the one he potentially did was subliminal. You out yo mind
@@randyjeter90 Are you sure you just don't have a sore spot for Drake? To be clear, I didn't share my personal opinion, I was sharing my observation of the time, which you confirmed just now. As far as what I think, I was just bumping Sweet a few weeks ago, it still goes hard... Doesn't mean it wasn't hypocritical. 💯
