Dreyse vs Chassepot - neeedle fire rifles of the Franco-Prussian war 

People often forget how incredibly fast technology was changing in the late 1800s. A rifle, ship, or cannon that was state-of-the-art when it was designed would be obsolete within 15 years.

Nice looking Chassepot cartridges 😉 In my experience the upgraded Beck bolt face on a Dreyse produces a gas seal just as good as the Chassepot.

Props to cap and ball for making the 100% original style cartridge for the chassepot instead of making the newer repro style (wich is way easier and needed less material)

I didn't realize it until you said it but yea, this is my favorite gun channel on RU-vid

I can't be the only one who gets excited when there's a new cap and ball video, time to grab a beer and snacks and settle in! I'm amazed by how much more deadly the chassepot was!

France: "We have the Chassepot and the Mitrailleuse, the Boche stand no chance!" North German Confederation + Southern Allies: "We have Krupp!!"

the "yataghan" bayonet in chassepot rifle was inspired from forward curved yatağan blades used by Ottoman janissaries and in Franco-Prussian war, Prussians not only had superior training and leadership, but also breech loading Krupp cannons which were more accurate with a higher rate of fire compared to muzzle loading artillery of French.

Merci pour ce comparatif entre les deux fusils qui servirent durant la guerre Franco Prussienne en 1870. Bravo pour vos cartouches de chassepot , elles ne sont pas faciles a fabriquer et ne partent pas a tous les coups . merci encore et bravo pour vos demos. Laurent guioullier

Köszönjük ezt a videót. Jelenleg egy dokumentumfilmet írok az osztrák-porosz háborúról. Írtam egy részt a Dreyse kontra osztrák muskétáról. A videójának köszönhetően van róla egy képem. Csak így tovább!

I so wish I could own a Chassepot. Absolutely love French rifles and its firearms history

i really like how you mix in operation footage with your narration. it keeps the video moving fluidly and interesting. great content!

I appreciate the time and effort you put into these demonstrations. Thank you again

You do a very good job mixing the history with the shooting in such interesting and competent way, sir! I really appreciate your work and wait always for the upcoming content. Thank you! Wish you only tens on range!!

Great video as usual! The difference in gas sealing between the two rifles is very visible in the slow-motion shots.

Well done, wonderful overview of the two different rifles.

This video was entertaining and informative.... thank you !! Both this rifles are giants in their time and the expose you give on them both honors them well.

Good stuff, this was something I didn't know anything about and it was very interesting. Well done, as always.

Thank you for keeping History alive.

What a fantastic youtube channel my friend, so accurate, your impresions. Many thanks.

This segment you did for Real Time History is how I found your channel!

oh shit this video is already legendary dreyse and chassepot a topic everyone knows and loves i remember searching and watching every vid about dreyse and chassepot i could find :D thanks for sharing!

Really enjoyed this video. I have a Chassepot and some day will find a Dreyse. You Chassepot cartridges look great it would be nice to see a video on how you construct them.

12:21 i have studied the franco prussian war in details and in fact the french infantry performed really well with these rifle, especially the chasseurs. They were more accurate than the prussian infantry and the prussian jägers resulting in more casualties for the prussians during confrontations.The real problem was that the french still marched into close formation on the battlefield whereas the prussian infantry had already adopted a more loose formation The main problem in the french army at that time was their artillery and their troops movement. The prussians used modern krupp canons and used trains to move troops to the front, resulting in the french being rapidly outnumbered. great video as always :)

Just came here from the latest Real Time History episode on the Franco-Prussian War. Always nice to have some synchronicity on the 'tube

HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN THIS CHANNEL BEFORE??

Love this channel . Love the Hunglish language. Love those "old man caps " . This channel has class. Thanks from Sweden .

Another stupefying and informative video by capanball. I plea and hope to see a similar video about the rifles of the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, the Martini-Henry, Snider-Enfield, Berdan II and the Krenka.

Great to see a new video! Love your channel my friend. That Dryse has quite a bit of kick no? They are both beautiful weapons. I love 19th century firearms but that Chassepot is something I’d love to own one day

Yet another awesome video of two iconic firearms! Thank you very much! Can you do a tutorial on how to make the Chassepot cartridges?

Outstanding, once again!

so mayn new videos in such a short time :D what a pleassure

Impressive as always.

Thank you for the history lesson

Thank you for the knowledge!

I enjoyed that immensely, thanks for posting. Whenever I visit The Royal Armourey in Leeds( UK). I always head to the display of the Dreyse, and the Chassepot. I find them very interesting. I have also read books on The Battle of Königgrätz and the war of 1870/71.

Thanks for sharing these rifles and their history. Just a suggestion: your shooting segments might be more interesting to watch if you used some sight and see type targets such as those made by Birchwood Casey.

Hello :) Congrats to 200k sub. ;) and thanks for another cool video :)

Another great video. Its like the Franco-Prussian war all over again.

New subscriber here! Great stuff!

you know, modern militaries are still chasing caseless ammunition, they just need to go back to 1860s rifles! XD It's insane these rifles are in such good shape

Hi from Ireland 🇮🇪, great show thanks

Thanks for sharing

I've been waiting for a long time. Finally it happens

thank you i really enjoy some good history totally enjoyable

I can see you are well educated and know exactly what are you talking about, I like that:))

Currently bundled up with a wool blanket and my 1868 dated Chassepot made by P. Webley & Son - how else would I enjoy the comfiest firearms channel on RU-vid?

Wonderful video, my friend. Thank you for your works. I would ask, is this not a re-upload from a few months ago? I could have sworn i watched this one once before

Great comparison there and lots of good history too! 👏👍 What was the cute little tool in the foreground, when you were firing the Dreyse rifle gelatine test?

My hot take on the Franco Prussian War was that, ignoring tactics, strategy and leadership, the French had the better infantry rifle hands down, but the Prussians had the better artillery hands down, and artillery trumped rifle fire. In a skirmish I would have preferred to be French, in a full on field engagement I would have preferred to be Prussian.

I always found it odd that the Chassepot used Rubber around the firing pin to create a tight seal, but given the fact that blackpowder of this time, while potent, did not burn as potent nor as slowly as todays modern gunpowder, though it still needed to be changed after prlonged use, I wonder how many rounds in a single testing the seal can handle before needing replacement

I have never seen a needle fire rifle. They look old-school and modern at the same time.

A good glass of Wine . A great evening..... Thanks for your videos.

A new video game on Steam is Grand Tactician American Civil War the developers added the ability to import the Dreyse. A division of Dreyse armed against a unit armed with just muzzle loaders is game over man.

Excellente explication de la différence des deux fusils et qu'il ne suffit pas d'avoir de meilleures armes pour gagner! Thank you!

Super vidéo👍👍👍

Thanks again

Good job 👍

Fantastic video, I'd love to see an in depth video on the making of the chassepot cartridges!

Breach-loading artillery also increases your chances of victory.

That was great thank you

That really had some energy! Btw the civil war stuff is a bit late for my interests. Do you sell shirts, I searched the site but foumd nothing.

I have a Chassepot and I can agree with you that the cartridges aren't easy to make, one thing that makes it a little easier is to use jumbo straws instead of paper witch is getting hard to find as plastics are replaced by paper straws nowadays. I have not made a perfect cartridge yet but that is mostly because I lack a perfect bullet-mold and powder(backordered). Nice comparison video and great work!

Ótimo vídeo! 😊👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

Stop callin yourself "my favorite gun yt channel" it forces me to choose between you, Ian McCollum and Joerg Sprave 😭😭😭 (Jokes aside, Thank you for the awesome guns and the quality of your content, you're awesome)

Cool video with cool info. As always. One of the best firearms channels on RU-vid. More subs would be well deserved. Maybe we get to see the Werndl rifle again one of these days. Could you make a video about the LeMat revolver (maybe even about the repro)? Bet that would be cool.

That's an excellent video. You'll have to take those hunting if the accuracy is there.

Will you consider presenting other iconic European rifles such as the Martini, Beaumont, Vetterli, Berdan?

Un deleite ver éste tipo de armas y más aún en funcionamiento verdaderos fierros. Saludos desde Argentina 👍👍🥂

Obscure but important weapon in the history of firearms.

hmm.... I wonder if Pedersoli would make one of these :) Maybe not, I think many would shy away from these when having to make the cartridges, and to be honest I can't blame them.

Thank you for teaching how to pronounce Chassepot.

Marvelous weather you're enjoying in Hungary. Here in Transylvania it's negative eleven and it snowed :)

Any chance for a vid on how to make the cartridges?

Amazing

This episode was already broadcasted on The Real Time history channel I believe.

Needle rifles are too cool, I've been waiting for this! Much has been said for and against the reliability of both rifles (rubber seal for the MLE 66, needle for the Dreyse) and I have a feeling that perhaps Prussian soldiers didn't take as much care of the needles on their rifles as you do with yours, weapon maintenance aside a soldier has many duties and much to tend to. Effective range is always a matter of dispute, regardless of the gun, and we all know by now how seemingly perfect black powder weapons have their good days and bad days. But "Snipers at War: An Equipment and Operations History" by John Walter, page 88, mentions rowing bands of irregulars, many of them hunters, armed with Rolling Block's, Sharp's, Spencer's, Chassepot's, literally taking potshots at Prussian columns, all over central france, blending in with the landscape and avoiding pitched battle, Kentucky-rifle style. The effect that these raids had on the much dismayed Prussians were such that.. well, war crimes. In reading a free excerpt from a book about early snipers, the name of the book eludes me (it may have been the same book), all the famous black powder snipers, Hinsan and the like, were mentioned. I read a story from the Franco-Prussian war about a French sniper situated in a barn on top of a hill, reportedly getting in lethal potshots on Prussian columns. Though it was unclear exactly how far the distance was, it was apparently such that the Prussians, try as they might, were unable to retaliate with their Dreyse's. Columns being easier targets than one soldier hiding in a barn, I'd wager the distance was maybe 400-500 meters, just outside the Dreyse's effective range. In any case, again, the demoralizing effect was such that the Prussians simply blew the barn, and the "ambitious frenchman" (as the book put it) to pieces with artillery 😬

love the variety of weapons. please use ear protection.

Lovely accent, brother. I could not for the life of me say you were hungarian if you hadnt revealed it. Now it got me thinking, what wouldve been my guess? Hmm.. Maybe romanian but thats too close to you lol. Perhaps something northern like finnish or norwegian. Anyway, I love clear speech with little/no mistakes, yet heavily pronounced accent :))

Incredible historical analysis!

Finally! A French rifle 🇲🇫🇲🇫

Muy buen video siempre me intereso esos fusiles de cerrojo y cartuchos de papel con el fulminante en la base de la bala. Por eso los percutores debian ser agujas finas para atravesar el cartucho y percutar el fulminante. Lastima no mostraste muy bien los cartuchos. Te sugiero un video sobre el fusil frances de avancarga MINIE II. Saludos desde Uruguay.

took me awhile to figure out how to load for the chassepot......maybe you could show us????

Hey Capandball, w Wouldn't what would be your take about using nitrocellulose lacquer coated "flash paper to make the paper cartridge, except on the paper parches bullet, which would be waxed? hat make the cartridges stiffer, waterproof and cleaner?

I've noticed that from 3:24 you didn't wear ear protection (or maybe you wore a separate pair of plugs), but if you haven't worn them, how loud can a gunshot be? Is it frightening loud, painful, or does it numb your ears just after one shot?

I have wanted this video forever. Take my patreon money. Also where did you get needles? I have always wanted to try to use a needlefire shotgun to hunt. A unique challenge. So many of those guns are art.

You should get in contact with Garand Thumb and have these shot at the ballistics gelatin dummy.

Exellent video! Is it Just me or are there an enormus amount of shooting range in Hungaria? Seldom same shooting range in videos🙂

Where does this guy get this ammo for all these older guns like his steyr m.95. I have one myself and I have n I clue where to look even for bullet molds

Excelent video! I wonder how much energy the Dreyse bullet looses as a consequence of its lack of proper obturation. It may or may not be an irrelevant amount.

Greeting in US，I have one chassepot 1874 Gras rifle which use 11x59R metallic ammo. That’s good.

10:36 my god ! Now i understand the prussians fear and why they used there artillery at maximum and avoided to face the Chassepot !

I wonder if you made a special kind of paper for the chassepot that would burn quicker if it would help with the fouling

It's amazing to see 2 rifles, which are the transition between muzzle-loaders and breech-holders. And can you tell about the Gras Fusile 1874 Rifle? I would love to hear about its superiority compare to the Chassepot. Thanks @capandball

The muzzle and sight design on the Dreyse Rifle is very obviously inspired by an older French weapon - the Model 1777 Musket - which was copied by many European countries and the American Colonies. The Prussians to my knowledge never transitioned to the "muzzle loading" Rifle-Musket with the Minie style bullets like other countries, so they jumped between generations.

In one of your older video (Tactics and rifles of the battle of Königgrätz - Lorenz and Dreyse rifles in action), you also showed how paper cantridges were made. Did soldiers in those days have to make every single cartridge manually like you, or were these cantridges mass produced on machines? Thank you in advance for your reply.

Could you use non -black powder in the chassepot and avoid getting black fowling in the rifle?

Strange thing. 13 Jan 2022. Sunny day ? Isn't it ?

Can someone do a step by step vide on making the ammunition?

Amazing video! Amazing channel! Gun did not fire needles ;-)

Hi...Gewehr 88 presentation will? Thanks.