The characters being dumb in this movie is justifiable, but when a biologist start peting a hissing spacecobra in Prometheus that's just beyond stupid.
how about when the entire crew of nostrama let in a dude with a giant parasitic face worm on it and not doing any semblance of a proper quarantine? in fact debating with the only person with a semblance of a brain? or how about when the face hugger disappears off kanes face and they go into a closed room without any weapons or precautionary attire in search of it...btw the smart one who wanted the quarantine was the "genius" that went into that room 😂 I wish you hypocrites brought that same energy to alien...which is a film I absolutely but understand people aren't infallible and make the correct choices every single time despite their education or intelligence
"Romulus" did a fair job justifying the rushed exit of the potential alien host...as Andy attempted to enforce a quarantine and the jumpy crew members bolted. These wannabe 'intellectuals' are so eager to fail a film via their "purity tests".
there was a cut scene from prometheus which showed the biologist losing his shit when he saw small worms on that planet...him getting all lovey lovey with the space cobra would Have made more sense if they kept that part In the movie. he's just an overzealous scientist that wants to see alien life.
The biggest flaw that it had was, aside from the member berries, the fact that the gestation period for the Xenomorph is now about 15 minutes for some reason
Yeah I didnt like that as well, especially since the plot could have EASILY accommodated a longer timeframe, they cut the mission from the initial 36 hours to one hour when they didnt need to at all, a few lines of dialogue and a few cuts and these events occur over a day or so and you get a better plot.
Might of been annoying but at least it was a realistic performance. She was a female cargo ship operator not a soldier. People often forget the first movie is about of bunch of everyday normal people in a blue collar work setting, not military. 99 percent of people on this earth that aren't combat experienced would react to that situation exactly how she did in that film. In Promethus we witness a guy that is supposed to be a scientist/extraterrestrial researcher or whatever attempt to pet and baby talk a very obviously hostile space cobra. One of the most moronic pieces of shit ever that movie.
My wife and I just got back from it. I thought it was really well done, relative to the last two movies. It wasn't as good as the originals, but they did a much better job fleshing out the ensemble. The horror element was quite good. I was sitting there grinning like a psychopath just because I was appreciating the effort and creativity that went into it. Solid flick.
I got back about the same time and I liked a lot of the movies and they did pull a lot from the previous movies, I loved the scenes with the face huggers, they out classed the xenos.
@@dragdragon23 I get the impression that, like me, the director _really_ likes the facehuggers, lol. Not that I dislike the Xeno, I just often find the facehugger concept even more scary.
I honestly felt that the people who made this movie worked really hard to be reverent to Alien & Aliens while also doing their own unique scary thing. Which is exactly what I want from a sequel. It doesn't have to blow my mind, it just shouldn't be cheaply done with member berries. They had that line, yeah, but even then it was kinda just some well executed comic relief, IMO.
I'd say it's the 3rd best in the franchise, after the 1st 2 films. Most fans pretend like 3 and 4 don't exist anyway, because the sequels ruin the 2nd film. I'm really glad we finally moved on from the Prometheus mess.
I thought the criticisms of Romulus weren't fair or using full context. There was WAY more good than bad going on in this movie, and even the "bad" stuff mostly had the feeling of intention behind it. Most of my critiques of the movie were quite minor nitpicks that I was easily able to look over while watching the movie, and they remain small nitpicks in retrospect as well. I'm way more pumped about what the movie did well than bummed about what it didn't and that is LEAGUES of improvement over any other garbage the alien franchise has put out in the past couple decades.
I genuinely don't understand why are they so negative about the movie. Lance complaining for solid 7 minutes about characters being dumb gave me an impression he didn't even watch the same movie as me. In almost all situations the characters actions made sense and could be explained logically even if they weren't optimal. In fact some decisions were actually super smart. Like one of the guys throwing a flare to distract facehuggers that were chasing them, which gave them just enough time to get to safety in one piece. Now contrast that with the most elite scientists arriving on a brand new planet like they're on a safari and huffing mysterious space spores in the Coventant.
Agreed. This was a very disappointing video. All they do is b*tch, in an incredibly whiny way. It's annoying (ironic) and really makes me discount their opinions and input. No thanks.
I agree with you. I will say though that the guys failing to even try to break the glass to get out of the cryo room followed by the girl hitting it from outside to crack it and then give up followed by the facehuggers breaking out of the room through the cracked glass was infuriating.
@ChrisTuckerexpress I don't care if they don't like it, but their whining complaints are generic and could be applied to MOVIE XYZ. And they're falling over themselves (well those two/three guys) to complain louder. I think you have a good point with the schtick.
Like wanting to enter a room where a xenomorph is waiting to kill them all? Like the dude running down the clearly infested xenomorph area? Like the dude standing in one place while acid falls on him? Like that one kid tasing the android and running away with the person with the xenomorph in them without even fully realizing the situation. And there is so many more examples people can feel frustrated at those, at least in the orginal movie Ripley was the voice of reason and had common sense. The android is the only one that does with that chip and he is constantly lambased and ignored.
As a horror fan, I thought that the movie was very well-made and well worth the price to see in theaters. Definitely go see it and form your own opinion.
My own opinion is that the producers missed out a great opportunity. This could have been a bridge between Alien and Aliens. Everything that took place on the Romulus could have explained how the xenomorphs got to the planet the Marines were sent to. Instead the tried to poorly recreate Alien and shove in stuff from the rest of the franchise.
@@dananichols349they could not do that at all. I think you missed a crucial point of the plot from the second movie. That planet in Aliens was the same one from the first movie where they found the eggs. Your whole complaint doesn’t really make sense and would break canon. It’s already explained how the Aliens got there.
I liked it too. I even had high hopes when they pulled out the black goo. I thought Prometheus had some really cool ideas in it, but it kind of went off the rails with the black goo doing everything and anything. So I was thinking, maybe this time they'll actually do something cool with it. But what happens with the black goo is really the only thing I didn't like in Romulus.
I think they’re complaining a bit much. Was it as good as the 1st 2 movies, no. Is it a solid entry to the franchise yes. I’m hoping it does well to get more alien content on the big screen.
It’s easily the 3rd best film after the original 2. Alien 3 was a major letdown. This one was actually scary, and the callbacks were great. I could have done with less of the “returning” character, but the 3rd act is bonkers. I don’t know what these guys are complaining about.
What's to be spoilt? A bunch of people stumble into an alien egg silo, one gets impregnated, there's an alien, and they'll try and kill it - most likely buy sucking it our into space. THATS not been done before....
Oh, and the company is probably still trying to weaponise the alienand there's probably an Android who's evil. I haven't seen it yet, just my predictions. Let me know how wrong I am after you've seen it.
@@T--kq3pjOk but if there fans who want to see it. They shouldn't be spoiled by grumpy people. If you don't like it that's fine, but don't ruin the movie for everyone else.
These people are just miserable. Their complaints are heavily exaggerated and seems like they went into the movie looking to pick it apart rather than enjoy it. The movie was very very good. The acting was great. Especially Andy. Sci-fi horror is hard to come by and it’s done fantastically with Romulus.
Iam 52, i saw the 1979 movie in TV, when i was about 12. I was really scared. You can't top the original. It was revolutionary then. This movie is a solid horror movie. End of story.
It all depends on your exposure to the franchise. See for me I first watched Aliens (2) at 5 years ( I am 35 now) old with my dad after he said " son if you finish all your dinner tonight you can watch Aliens with me on VHS" and I watched Alien (1) a few years after. So for me Aliens cannot be topped and is the greatest. All a matter of perspective.
Yep...I had heard this as well. No one can top the stupidity of the science folks in Prometheus or Covenant...and even then, I kind of liked those films for certain aspects.
@@GravelordWrustbecause they had a goddamn Android telling them what to do. The guy who gets stabbed in the eye and burned by acid is an absolute moron. There was zero reason to stick around and look at that thing after he shocked it. Could have just ran like the pregnant chick did.
Yeah they spewed a lot of bs in this review. The characters did good. In addition the whole thing about the robot, idk how Dark Hour took that from him, obsolete and retardation. Im done, terrible take.
@@InternetHydra I can't imagine not liking a series so much that you find all but one of the 9 films awful and yet you still watch them. At least for me I enjoy the first 5 of them. Romulus, has a few redeeming qualities at least, so overall I enjoy more of them than I don't
Just my opinion, but I think the two guys criticizing the film were too hard on it. It may have been far from perfect, but anything watchable that keeps your interest and is entertaining these days is ahead of the game. That said, (staying spoiler-free), I think it was the best Alien film since the original two films. Sure, much of it seemed familiar, taking much in the way of general plot lines with a few easter eggs from Alien/Aliens. But that's not altogether a bad thing for fans. I went with no real expectations and liked it much better than I thought I would; so that's a win in my book!
I didn’t take one zip from my pepsi cola throughout the whole film. That says something about the movie. Sure genZ were annoying, was rooting for the alien/s to kill them all. Really enjoyed the alien elements on a big screen again after a set of mediocre disappointing movies before this one. I’m 40yo alien fan
@@Aktivek"Sure Genz were annoying..." It really is always fascinating to see different idealogical brainwashing and weird agenda's/crusades so idiosyncratic to any given echo chamber. Evidently, that Lance fellows is whining about the young'ns, or whatever.
@@user-jc8cj2mz7r I actually really liked the cast and thoroughly enjoyed the movie until the end. I feel like the Alien 4 part felt tacked on and unnecessary. But I have to agree, it is the best Alien since the first two.
They should have just adapted Alien Isolation. It’s the best thing they’ve made in the Alien franchise in last 10 years. It gives them a new Ripley to center further films around. It gives them new protagonists. It gives them new story ideas and its faithful to Alien and Aliens while being a good story in its own. It’s even has nods to Outland.
This movie was the adaption of alien: isolation This movie was great Stop complaining Just keep rewatching alien and aliens over and over and over again
Isolation would be a hard adaptation, you can trim a lot of padding but even then just hitting the main story beats you'd be hard pressed to cram that into a 3 hour movie (Spoilers ahoy!) Getting to the station, the reveal of the xenomorph, the medical section, Marlowe's history, first trap, second trap, android attacks, breaking into Apollo, the reactor hive and attempt to purge, destruction of the Anesedora and escape from Sevastapol are all pretty crucial elements and if you want to do them require some decent cooking time. Maybe you could get away with it as a miniseries. But I do agree it is the best thing to come out of the Alien franchise in a decade. Dark Descent was also quite good, and what I've seen of the Table Top RPG is excellent.
They’re giving this film a hard time. It’s definitely worth the price of a movie ticket. I’d definitely give it another watch if it releases on streaming platforms
This lot just hate on almost everything these days whilst pretending to be pseudo intellectuals. Mauler in particular. He seems like a miserable person.
I agree with you, they hate on mostly everything some justified but damn just watch a movie and have fun with it, except for most of the new star wars crap@sdogg
In the 1979 original, several key elements had *never been seen before* by audiences: (1) the closed, spartan, industrial environment far from any kind of help; (2) gritty work-a-day characters caught in a trap they couldn't escape; (3) monsters that were *orders* of magnitude scarier than anything ever seen on screen before; (4) horrors that had no parallel in cinema (with the possible exceptions of 1973's The Exorcist and 1976's The Omen. Combine those things with exquisite pacing and a surprise character arc by Sigourney Weaver's Ripley, and you had what is still the best sci-fi horror movie ever made. Nobody had before been able to utilize practical monster effects with such realism, and CGI efforts since then just haven't measured up.
You forgot one very crucial component; the acting. The acting in the original movie is some of the best in cinema. They weren't playing roles, they WERE these people.
One of the the things I loved the most about the first Predator was how competent the characters were. They were an elite special forces squad (established before meeting Predator) who were simply bested by a better opponent. It was only the competence of Dutch that was able to turn the tides and defeat Predator. Nobody was perfect, but nobody was stupid or incompetent. What a treat!
Being only 2:39 into this video and reading more about "stupid decisions" and it being for a younger audience. I think this might be a generational thing, as the current tiktok/social media generation is generally considered insane/dumb due to brain dead challenges and trends (npc streams making people money for instance). So maybe it's not the movie we want, but the one we deserve as humanity?
@@DCG909idk if you’ve seen the movie, but think the characters are getting to much hate. They make a few very smart choices and then a few goofy ones. They are very early 20’s aged kids tho who are poor as shit 😂 some people here acting like they should be SF
@@Rcook422 seriously, god forbid some 20 year olds who've probably only ever known space mining, make some dumb fucking decisions when confronted with an alien life form that aggressively wants to fuck their shit up and is built for it? lmao. 20 year olds aren't smart. boomer ass mf Lance of The Outcasts Creative doesnt understand what 20 year olds are like lol
@@justindangersmithwhy didn’t the uneducated 20 year old slave children that were orphans make better choices!? As if any random person would be able to handle the deadliest creature in the universe when they get surprised by it and have like 2 hours total to learn while their only family left around them is dying. I just don’t get why they would panic!?
@@lanalan4157I've watched it, and my opinion is: Just wait and see it when it hits streaming/Redbox. Don't give them a reason to milk this series again, especially if they're gonna half ass it in pacing and story. Yes, if you're looking for fun and mindless action/horror, you'll enjoy it. But if you're looking for something of quality aside from effects and action, you'll be let down.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I feel like these two have been marinating in an online echo chamber eager to take down any new creation put in front of it. No film is perfect but this one did a damn great job, it grips you from the very beginning and never lets go there is tension throughout and it does homage to a great franchise that’s had some tragic missteps in the past.
I agree...some people will never accept anything but the original. Top gun maverick....Romulous. I feel like we're finally starting to understand how to remake stuff. This could be the second best Alien film.
This film has absolutely 0 tension from start to finish, what are you talking about? The Xenomorphs are barely in it, and when they are they are being blasted apart by a civilian. They present little to no threat the entire time, apart from their blood In Aliens, the Xenos easily take on an entire squad of heavily armed marines and wipe them out The bad guy in this movie is Wayland-Yutani... Cus ooooh big corporations are scary and bad
@@nathanread2520 The Xeno morphs took out the entire station before they showed up, that's a big threat. And honestly they were in zero gravity in an enclosed space.... it's hard for her to miss. Also the corporation were always the bad guys. In alien 1 + 2 ... Prometheus.... etc.
@@EEE-kh3tn I like it (Alien3). It had its flaws but it tried to capture the isolation and horror of the first film. Most people did not like Hicks and Newt being killed off.
Just saw Alien Romulus and I give a 2 out 5..... I can take it or leave it..... Ending sucked and ridiculous.... Also, if the Xenomorph DNA stuff regenerates organisms like it did the completely smooshed mouse, then why didn't Kay regenerate from the new Xeno bite? So many plot holes in the this movie it's mind numbing like where the hell did face huggers come from when there is no queen?
Well the movie shows the mouse dying anyways after that, also there's the potential for eggmorphing which whilst deleted from the original alien film is mentioned In the comics and novelisation and also just because we didn't see a queen doesn't mean there wasn't one somewhere in the ship...
Ian Holm CGI war crime was disgusting. Im normally not outraged but Id just seen him in a movie the day before and to see a great actor turned into an abomination of uncanny valley ruined the entire movie. Ridleys idea apparently. Surprise surpise.
JUST SAW THIS TONITE!! The best ALIENS movie since ALIENS 👽. The anti grav scene alone was worth the ticket price!! It kinda ended twice tho... But otherwise great movie😂
"The way they treat their workers never gets referenced again"?... What are you talking about? It's the whole reason why the movie happens! The movie as a whole is a reference to how the company treats their workers...
If you're expecting any of these people to give the movie a fair shake, you're in the wrong place. Anything short of PERFECTION gets ravaged. We're wading through cinema-sins levels of petty nit-pickery here. I loved it. I noticed the flaws but it was still awesome.
@@thorin4406 “Cinema-sins level nitpickery” The plot is generic and predictable. The characters are cliche and carried by a weak cast, I didn’t even remember the main girl’s name until her final monologue. The only thing we know about Rain is she “dreams” about seeing the sun, and about 10 minutes later she sees her planet’s sun, has an “awe” moment and it is literally never mentioned again. The opening scene was completely unnecessary, just used to setup a potential future film. How anyone could take the “Get away from her, you bitch” scene without rolling their eyes is laughable. The most egregious of many member-berries. The stupid Human-Xeno thing grows from infant to 8ft tall in LITERALLY 2 minutes. The numerous jump scares were INSULTING and ruined the sense of dread, literal dead silence with the music suddenly SCREAMING to achieve cheap shock horror. Anyone with ANY sensitivity to loud noises would find this film unwatchable. But hey, it “isn’t perfection” so I guess these guys are just “haters”.
@@MT-iw6sl your only valid criticism is the shallowness of the characters as a group - even Andy as an individual character is quite well done , other than that, yeah you’re just going on an opinionated rant for the sake of being contrarians. Yes these guys are “haters” people have asked the alien franchise to go back to its roots for literal decades and the first time we actually do these losers are pretending to now care about the weyland mining colony. Most people watching romulus didn’t care about a call back from a movie 37 years ago. You’ve literally brought up disabled people with sound sensitivity to make a point. The first alien is literally has quiet to jarring music scenes as well as jump scares, the same things you’re complaining about here. You don’t need to like the film but pretending it’s objectively bad because it’s too loud for you is nitpicking.
@MT-iw6sl Here's something you grumpy joyless husks like to do, go and look at the review aggregates. Specifically critics vs audience. It's been used to demonstrate how out of touch critics are, so logically can now be used to demonstrate how out of touch you are. When a film is this well reviewed by BOTH and you're still posting walls of text complaining, you might just be on contrarian auto-pilot. Go and hug someone, please, there's not much time left before your soul completely leaves your body, and all you have left is your overused criticism sub-routine.
I agree with you except for the format for Aliens. The 4k transfer is done by AI making actors look waxy and unnatural. Cameron has gone off the deep end with his idea of film restoration. Sticking with the blue-ray for that one.
Nah this is definitely the alien film you're looking for. Go watch it in the big screen or wait for it to come out in a streaming service. It's a great movie.
@@fullmetal921 But the 4K release comes with the 1080p Blu-ray version on the second disc and all of the bonus material from the Anthology Blu-Ray set on the third disc. So, it's still worth picking up just to get those goodies without needing to buy the entire Alien Anthology box set.
So let me get the premise straight, a super top priority Weyland/Yutani alien research station is passing over a Weyland/Yutani mining world and the only ones that know about it is a bunch of meddling/thieving teenagers who happen to own a ship? No one else? And it's about to crash into a whatever destroying it in how much time? You'd think the corporate mining facility would have much better sensors to pick up objects in space, let alone one of their own facilities. Especially after all the effort they went to trying to get this thing in the original Alien. Also where did a bunch of broke teens get the ship? How'd they afford a ship? How is this chick allowed to keep a synthetic anyway? Andy is Weyland/Yutani proprietary tech, how the hell is she allowed to have that? On a W/Y mining world? They would definitely want that back. To decommission, or have destroyed at the very least if it is obsolete. There is no way in hell they would allow some skid row teen go around using it to access their systems. Also you can just add another 5-6 years on a contract? Just like that? This is assumed to apply to everyone since they are short workers. There would be riots in the streets if that happened. There would be vandalism, there would be George Floyd levels of protest. So dumb. Also how is all this Nostromo debris still all in one place? Ripley nuked the ship, and it's debris has been spreading out for 20 years. This is not how space works. Does anyone remember the size of that explosion? It was huge! All the debris should be flying in all directions radiating out from the epicenter of the explosion drifting at a constant rate over 20 years. This debris should be millions of miles away from here by now. And no two pieces of debris should be anywhere near another piece after 20 years of constant movement. And to find the actual alien Ripley shot out the god damn air lock? In all that mess spread out, the odds of finding that are literally astronomically low. Like picking every correct lottery number 365 days straight by chance. Actually it's worse than that, it's like picking every lottery number 365 days of each year for like 10 years. It ain't happening. Also how does not-Ash know there was only one survivor of the Nostromo? How does he know it was blown out of the air lock? How do they know any of this? It's not possible to know this. Ripley at the end of Alien sent no messages from that escape ship, she made a report but it had to be a personal log, it wasn't sent to anyone. If it had, then there would be no reason for Ripley to have been drifting in space for 50 odd years. She would have woke herself up in 6 weeks when she reached the frontier and broadcasted more reports for help to get picked up sooner. So if this were the case, then the sequel Aliens couldn't have taken place. Also in Aliens, the WY corporation were acting like everything related to the disappearance of the Nostromo was new information, again this movie contradicts that. There is a multitude of awful, and a plethora of stupid in this defecation projected onto screen. From the tasteless reanimation of a deceased respected actor's corpse to the chatGPT generated script that is an amalgamation of every Alien movie that proceeded it, to the direct theft of whole lines of dialogue stolen from previous movies and reused here. It's pure awful, save your money, and your time. Playing in traffic would be more fun.
Here’s a guy who actually really enjoyed this film. Much of what’s said in this video is pretty wildly exaggerated. Anyone reading this comments, do yourself a favor and see a movie for yourself instead of relying on these guys. You might actually enjoy it. If I had listened to this video before seeing this film I probably wouldn’t have spent any money on it. But I’m very glad I chose to give it my time. Oh and yes these guys are in fact giving full spoilers. This is NOT a spoiler free review.
I really liked it too. The final threat was pretty stupid, or maybe just poorly handled. Had they set up that threat, but didn't reveal it until the next movie, that would have been better than "Here it is! And... it's dead." But that's 10-15 minutes, everything else I thought was good. I can kind of give the characters a pass for doing some "dumb" things. They are just young workers looking for a ticket off that planet, not scientists of professional soldiers, so it makes sense that they aren't making the smartest decisions.
Mig mauler and drinker fan. Can't help but agree. These guys are ussually on point but they gave some seriouse hate for this movie for no reason. It was way better than the promethius reboot and as a standalone it had alot going for it. How many horror movies have gotten the affect of Romulus in the last while? It's deserves more love.
@@Utoobzz It was made in 1978. There was a very real Recession going on (...not the kind where one party gets to alter the definition of the word.) Long lines for gas and the movies were doing more with less. The fact that iconic classic films came out of that era is a testiment to the creatives and artisans meeting the challenge.
@@Utoobzz Well if you haven’t seen them yet, quite a bit of banter and dialogue between the crew was cut and some scenes even had multiple variations. The whole tone shifts tremendously when you see the scenes as they were intended. Many of which were far better than the final version. Like the part with Ripley and Parker busting each others chops and joking around was cut down. It showed that Ripley wasn’t so serious as the final version does and that she had strong verbal Judo, giving as good as she got. In other versions Ripley and the crew smile, banter and joke around more with each other which was really weird that they cut those scenes down. I think it would have contrasted against the bleakness of space and would make the inevitable that much more dark when it happens. Honestly it was more like Brody, Quint and Hooper on the Orca in Jaws had they went that route. Even Ash had a bit more life to him with dry humor with blink and you’ll miss it quips to the others. It would’ve added so much more levity to what we ended up with. The theatrical cut had them all as emotionless wooden planks compared to what was originally intended. The directors cut adds some of that back in thankfully but there was still other scenes that could’ve fleshed it out even more.
My best friend, wife and I enjoyed it. Some of the deep fake effects were spotty, and the "Get away from her, you bitch" line felt unnecessary, but it was a good thriller, and a fun time overall.
I thought the line worked simply because it does kind of feel like something the character might say, especially with how much they build him up as being a bit on the cringe side. To me him trying (and failing) to sound cool after doing something pretty badass seems completely in line with his character. Sure it's still a shameless callback, but the context of the line made it feel a bit less force than if it had just been said in a vacuum (no pun intended).
@@Utoobzz Ridley should have made his 3rd prequel film then instead of bait and switching the audience by hiding every reference to the prequels in the trailers.
The black goo majorly expanded the alien universe. Prometheus and Covenant are underrated masterpieces that's not a rehash of alien. We see the engineers planet and the origin of aliens.
I just saw it. It was actually good. Nothing woke...no girl boss. There weren't absolute morons. This movie was as close to the original movie as any alien movie I've seen. The special effects were amazing. The acting was good. It was a solid film
It was a good movie. Not great, but good. The biggest sin is leaning too heavily into feeling like a soft reboot. The characters being dumb actually makes more sense than something like Covenant. If they would've tried to make it more distinct, it would've been much better.
Being ‘dumb’… except they knew where to find cryopods on an off planet ship, knew how to reach said ship, that said ship was going to crash in 30 hrs, how to use gins they’d never encountered, how to utilise gravity against the aliens, how to use heat against the aliens, how to…. my fingers are tired, these ‘genius’ Gen X’ers were created as literally the smartest characters this side of Rey. The more I think about it the more I hate this film.
@@nickp7069 Literally all of that could be sensors and technology. And they were wrong about pretty much everything even after that. No different than a kid who thinks they can Google or Wikipedia everything
To be clear, the character who appears in the movie isn't the same character but just one who looks the same. If you're familiar with the original, then you probably know who it is already.
It’s tied for second best alien movie for me (aliens) and I’m a massive nerd. I quite enjoyed the last act. It opens a door for more questions about lore etc.
I've seen the movie and for me it really feels washed out. It's not bad, but it isn't great either. In the original Alien movies the characters delivered the tension, Romulus feels like ScoobyDoo gang in space where the aliens are downgraded, generic, dumb and easily disposed of. Lots of cheap jump scares and I really did not feel any true horror element in it. Sure it looks nice, but the more you think about it after it ends the more illogical flaws you put together about it. The ending was simply disgusting and had zero substance to it. It literally felt like I was watching internet AI generated CGI and it just fell instantly flat for me. Say what you want about Alien Resurrection, but the Hybrid had an amazing and original horror design to it.
The acting was solid. Idk what people are going on about. Its not like it was any better or worse than the original cast from the first film. Seems like the Drinker's group are blinded by their hate of modern Hollywood to give this film the credit that I for one think it deserves.
I don't agree that "if you can find it on imdb or the wiki, it's not a spoiler." You can find EVERYTHING on those sites, so is nothing a spoiler? Geez.
@@Ldiepian I'm 24 and don't blame him lol. Majority of us are narcissistic, have terrible political opinions based on mostly fabrications, and have the quality criteria of toddlers hence how well marvel films perform at the box office.
No matter how many dumb things you can point out in this movie, nothing beats Brad Dourif making out with the cell window, pretending to kiss the xenomorph on the other side.
@@thebatman4279 don't get me wrong I love me some Brad Dourif. But Alien Resurrection was a very dumb movie when it came to Alien canon, and it left me with more wtf questions than answers. Having said that, Resurrection was nowhere near as damaging to the Alien canon as Prometheus was. I remember leaving the movie theater with more questions than answers, and the questions that are asked completely screwed over what was cool and mysterious about the franchise. Covenant was meh.
Funny how Lance mentioned that the first 10 seconds of trailer showed too much and then he turned it off. He is basically sharing a lot of plots and spoilers in his so called “spoiler free” review. I guessed it is okay to say spoiler free when he is not the one to be spoiled. And there are too much hate and unjustified opinions in this conversation that I feel like they just want to hate this movie so bad. I can clearly feel the love for this IP from the director when watching this movie. It may be flawed, but it is not a stupid or blend film like they said in this video.
Dude this movie was incredible. I like these guys, and I generally agree with them, but Fede Álvarez took the OG movie and put it on steroids. I was equal parts excited and terrified. See it on a huge screen. There’s nothing woke about this movie, it’s not The Marvels, guys. If you criticize everything, you just become cynics.
Aside from the meaningless characters, the biggest problem of Alien Romulus for me is that this film is like a high budget fan-made movie. It milks the elements from previous movies so hard, any alien fan can see just one moment of it and he will immediately know how the plot will be unfolded in the next 15 mins. And the plot depends so much on android tells the audiences what’s happening is so fucking lazy. But I would say it’s not a bad movie. It’s just not good either. Mediocre. oh btw, I think it breaks cannon a little bit
@@mikawathorongil7127 It...isn't 'fan servicey', though, nor is it milking previous movies in any particularly meaningful way. Knowing how a move will unfold doesn't make it bad, dude, lul (well, bar being outright a mystery-oriented piece of media, and even then, which Romuluz most definitely isn't and makes no illusions of being). These complaints are nonsensical garbage.
Then they made poor Andy logical and competent for 5 minutes and then took that away from him as well. I loved him burning that main chick with the line about leaving someone to die.
Just gonna point out in the best two Alien movies, the reason the Alien(s) got a jump on everyone is because characters did stupid stuff. 1st movie, everyone is yelling and pissed at Ripley for trying to keep Quarantine. 2nd movie, Gorman has his squad move in where they can't fire, instead of pulling everyone out and equipping them with flamethrowers before going back in.
That's true, but in both cases it's well justified. In Alien Ash is playing the crew off against each other and undermining their unity. In Aliens Gorman's on his first 'real' deployment and none of the Marines are taking the threat seriously enough, Gorman's panicking when he disarms his squad and it brings his inexperience to the fore. They also have Burke putting pressure on Gorman not to damage Wey-U's investment. Once things go sideways both crews start behaving more competently, they make mistakes but they're doing their best within their abilities and knowledge. I find it really jarring when people in horror movies just keep doing stupid things.
How about the fact that after her whole crew getting killed in the first one the whole aliens movie is based on her making the same stupid decision to go after the aliens. Its like like everyone else go. You should fall back after that time. maybe step out of this one. Especially after getting those flashbacks of the thing inside of her even though it never was that's how much of an impact it has on her.
Yep. We have too many Maulets amongst us who do not want to accept right and wrong as nature provides, we have people who want to analyze behavior and reject it if they don't solve the video game flawlessly.
I was not impressed. It was the same formula. Before I saw it I knew there would be a crew and at the end the Alien would kill all but one and the final one would kill the Alien. Give me more Prometheus, David and the engineers.
To Lance, what exactly did the main protagonist do that was so annoying that made you want her to die? Some of the other kids sure but what’s your issue with her? And what more do you need to know about her. We never knew all that much about Ripley either. Also of course the characters do stupid things they’re teenagers it makes more sense here than it ever did when the adults and science officers of franchise past acted like idiots
Yeah I just had to stop watching the review. I'm not in love with this film but I enjoyed it and seeing really bad takes like this one and how it's formulating other peoples opinions before they've even seen the movie is just quite damaging. It's not a perfect film but the characters are actually something I thought were done quite well.
Lance should actually see the film instead of making generic observations. You can tell he's talking out of his ass, "yeah um things happen you know, things happen like they ran down the hallway you know like they do"
Lance asks a question that has been bugging me for decades about why these studios aren’t adapting the ready made back catalog of their IP’s. Especially comics! There doesn’t need to be a storyboard session because what is a comic book than a ready made storyboard with dialogue and everything. Robert Meyer Burnett lamented on one of his Star Trek tirades that the novel that tells how Kirk and Spock met at Starfleet Academy, Collision Course, was much better than Jar Jar’s Star Trek ‘09. They could have adapted that. My guesses are that they either run into the arch-enemy of all IP’s, rights issues, and have to pay out some kind of compensation to the original writer, (It’s not unprecedented. For Enterprise, T’Pol was supposed have been a younger version of the Vulcan high priestess T’Pau. But they’d have to pay the creator of the character a fee to use her), or, despite decades of sophisticated storytelling coming out of comics that have rivaled traditional literature, Hollywood scribes still looks down on writers like Claremont, Frank Miller, Ed Brubaker, and countless others as writers of funny books. It would explain why very few of them have been tagged to write or co-write a screenplay or teleplay.
Pretty exaggerated "complains" from these 2, I'm sure Drinker will give the film a more fair review. Some spoilers here too, careful. Also - Drinker has to put the leash on that Lance guy & instruct him how to act on such calls, he seems to lack some common sense when to stop talking/talking too much. The red shirt guy even resorted to "Let me ask you a question" tactic to make him shut up and proceeded to inlcude his commentary bit... :D
Things I liked: - Lead Actors (heroine, robot, almost male love interest) - Gravity stuff - First 30 mins after shit hit the fan was awesome - Birth scene / finale Didnt like: - callback quotes - long winded ending, just felt it was about 20 mins too long - lack of character development (no one really changed) Personally enjoyed it a lot more than 3.
I mean did anyone change in the original alien film more than in this ? No, characters die in horror films it happens so not surprising that not every character gets an arc, also you said you liked the finale but also didn't lol
Interesting, I actually really enjoyed the movie and disagree with almost every criticism laid out in here. I also definitely didn't get any inclination of Andy being an allegory for disabled people at all. There's really only one character making a big deal out of Andy and it's established that THAT character has a personal grudge against Synthetics and is also a huge asshole lol. I understand being wary of the message but this was just about the least woke film I've seen in a couple of years.
Young people who are hard done to, who blame everyone and everything else for their sh*tty lives, sounds like the real world to me, only these characters face actual life or death, not hurty words and micro aggressions.
Also, if you’re a fan of this franchise and didn’t like this, you probably also bitched about the last two entries and how the series needed to return to its old form. Young terrified characters in space who are being chased by killer aliens making dumb decisions actually makes sense; it’s called being terrified. Would love to see how these basement dwellers would fare in space. Cmon drinker, get better guests.
I wouldn't say that they're making dumb decisions, most of the time when they make a decision that objectively seems irrational or needlessly puts them in danger they do it either because they're trying to help someone they have an emotional bond with or because they're distressed by something that just happened, which is kinda understandable. It's nowhere near what the characters in Prometheus and Covenant do.
The part when Tyler stopped walking in the middle of all the face huggers to talk over the radio made zero sense. The characters in the movie were so lame. Andy’s performance when upgraded was good, but the rest of the acting was sub par. Especially the lead. And the drama between Andy and Bjorn was contrived. This movie could have been so badass if they just would have written the characters better.
It can't be better than Resurrection. No way. Resurrection was weird but all the characters worked. Why would ANY generation would prefer "to see themselves represented" in an Alien movie? Self-inserts are a bane in entertainment now. I might go to see this thing at the theater, but I have little interest in a Nickelodeon version of Alien.
Yes I Agree! "Alien Resurrection" Was a Way Better and Far Superior Film Than "Alien Romulus". And Yes "Alien Romulus" also reminded Me of a Tiny Toons, Nickelodeon, Kid's Movie!
The drinker hasnt even watched this ... How can I trust a reviewer who forms opinions about a film before even watching it himself. When you go watch it you will be thinking about all the negativites your peers have said ruining the experience. This film was great for nostalgia lovers, great for cosmic horror fans and fun for most audiences. The critical and audience reviews agree most people liked it. This is the best "true" Alien film we have had in decades and all you guys have in the video is hate. If you read this Drinker you should find other buddys to review with, and especially replace lance...
@@niceguy6969 My dude, that's the drinker's whole shtick. If he stops hating on every movie that comes out and instead shares some honest, openminded opinion he's gonna lose his audience. He's too far gone. Lance especially is a complete idiot.
This is exactly what’s happening because after I left the film I thought there is no way I saw the same film that these people are claiming is one of the best in the franchise.
The current state of pop culture in a nutshell - so many franchises run into the ground so hard that if you give fans anything even a step above the garbage they've become accustomed to they'll swear it's that that it's the second coming.
Maybe I've missed these guys on open bar, but this review of the film was terrible. I agree that it was a ton of member berries and a few things didn't work for me. They make it sound like this was Alien: Resurrection or something.
Damn the hate here is real, the movie wasn’t bad at all. Not gonna win any horror awards but I have to disagree with most of the critiques here. But hey, everyone’s got an opinion
It was realllllly good… except for the “you bitch” moment. It was jarring. They could have got away with “get away from her”… they even paused 😂.. and then said that final bit 😵💫
Agreed. Sometimes I am just so damn annoyed watching the people on this podcast complain over literally everything. This crowd just loves to hate everything.
Pound for pound, it is a good sci-fi horror, yes the character development was lacking, but that's all the credence these cynical dorks can be afforded. Watch the film and make your own mind up.@@zogwort1522
@@thrillcollectorsThat's false. Why haven't you mention how they praised Spiderman No Way Home, The live action One Piece series, Godzilla Minus One, House Of The Dragon ? They still give those things I've mentioned fair criticism, but like it. Have you watched Drinker recommends at all?
I'm not especially looking forward to this, but not letting Ridley Scott anywhere near the creative process is a good start. He did a fine job of bringing the screenwriters' vision to life in the original _Alien,_ but despite what so many people seem to believe, he was NOT the screenwriter (those were Dan O'Bannon and Ron Shusett), did NOT come up with the story, characters, or title creature, and the few ideas he pushed for were rejected for being too silly. It annoyed me to no end when people kept referring to Ridley Scott as the series "creator" when discussing _Prometheus,_ even though his only contribution was getting the real creators' vision onto film.
I've seen it & there is no doubt Ridley & disney meddled with this movie, at least Cameron wrote the script for Aliens & had some input on the score unlike Ridley taking credit for things he never did.
@@yowasup1001 The first 30 minutes, from what I gather of the explanation about "obsolete" androids, sounded exactly to me like what Disney's die agenda requires. Role was probably written just to get the rest of the movie made. Not knocking the actor, he's just doing a job with what he's given.
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Just one of the many recent Scott haters that are foolishly always trying to minimize his involvement in his own movies. Watch the making of 'Alien', watch the recent documentary 'Memory: The Origins of Alien', watch behind the scenes footage and then come back here to apologize.
@@pastichiorocker No. Watch the credits of the first movie. Then read about Scott's idea for the original ending. He's a great director, but he's only ever been as good as the script he's working from. The only apology you'll get rhymes with "Kiss my ass."
These guys seem IMPOSSIBLE to please. Loved the movie! I instantly felt like I left the theater the moment it started and I was transported elsewhere. The writing for some of suspenseful horror scenes were so great! Felt like the film was such a great return to form. Not better than the first two but definitely up there. These guys just need to enjoy a film and not act like they work for rotten tomatoes
I guarantee if this movie took out all the prequel stuff and stuck to the rules they're complaining Romulus didn't follow, that these guys would still hate it because it would've been "derivative and uninspired with no ambition to do something different" They are impossible to please, no wonder studios alienated their fans for 10 years because even when studios give something closer to what the fans wanted only results in them STILL complaining about it.
This movie was made for people too young to have seen the original in theaters when it was released. It was quite an experience. I'm 64 and I watched Alien at the movie theater and I left scared to death and sweating. But now the Alien IP has just turned into bad reruns for younger audiences who have only watched the originals on Streaming or DVD/Blue Ray on their couch with 5 or 6 other people talking trash during the movie. They missed out on them when they were new, original and shown only in the theaters. This latest version is just cheap Saturday night scream queen fare.
As soon as you meet not-Ripley, it's obvious how the movie will end, the steps that will get us there, and the order in which they'll happen. Predictable. Formulaic.
What the actual hell? It says spoiler-free and inside the first 20 seconds you mentioned that that particular line is in the movie? Come on guys! I can't believe you did that crap. Yeah I stopped listening right there. Piss off.
Half of what these reviewers are saying doesn’t happen in the film and the other half are them not paying attention and then complaining about not understanding what’s going on
@@kordova2182 I like that there’s nothing that he likes. There’s nothing I’ve seen in quite a few years that has wowed me, whereas I’ve often been impressed by films made before I was even born, yet standard critics give absolute garbage high ratings. I appreciate when someone tears something apart because I can then analyze whether I agree with that particular criticism or not. I ask “why” a lot and love storytelling, so turning a film into a collection of “whys” then seeing if enough are justified is entertaining to me.
@@geekrepublic8308 yeah I really Liked the new Deadpool movie and I saw alien Romulus last night and loved it. It had that aliens feel and aesthetic that the newer movies didn’t have. The only thing that I didn’t like was the bad deepfaked android face. These guys are just contrarians for views and clicks.
5/10? Jesus man... I really hope the drinker does a review based on his opinion and not influenced by some of the things that were said here before he watches. I watched Romulus twice, I actually have no issues with the characters, Alien's characters were annoying as fuck as well, they were not perfect and felt very relatable and human. Here, yeah you can see some are more developed than others which is a pitty but I dont think they are dumb or badly acted. My only issue with it was that I would love for the first 30min to be more developed / expanded and not going straight to the ship for the mission. The whole Wayland jobs and the parents ending up doing mine work was really cool, would love to see more of that. To me, I would put it like Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Romulus. Everything else is absolute dog shit. Other than that, it is a great, worthy Alien movie that will happily see a third time.
@richardturner4074 yeah, he went from objective criticisms for star wars or game of thrones to anything that isn't perfect for me is trash. So bow it's hard to take him seriously because you can't even tell if it's a real opinion or he's just committing to this persona he's created and thinks liking something will lose his audience
I get that Critical and his pals are the cynical/miserable bastions of movie critics but come on you don't have to hate on everything...Romulus is a solid Alien movie with just a few minor flaws
I would agree up until the final act where it completely fell apart. The movie was okay I didn't hate it, but it is at best tied for fourth in the franchise.
@@scottjo76 Alien 3 Directors Cut is third for me. There is a pretty big gap between the first two and the third but I would still put it third. Prometheus was by far the worst out of all of them so that may play a part in why I hated the third act of Romulus so much.
@@warhippy6934 Hehe it's all subjective, i really enjoy Prometheus, i'd have that as 4 behind Romulus. Covenant 5....then the ones i just can't bear to watch
I've seen a very different film. The characters are well defined (come on guys, they are young boys in a exceptional situation!!), there is a lot of tension during the entire film, the FX are outstanding. And, for God shake..... is much better than Alien3 !!!
No. Alien 3 had an original story to tell. This is derivative shlock that just takes from its predecessors and does it worse. This movie is devoid of any creativity at all.
"Spoiler Free" yeah, and "Alien Resurrection" was a great movie. Also if anyone is going to try to say Resurrection was better than this movie. Not going to hear it, please move on. Already saw the movie and Romulus was 5x better than Resurrection and Covenant.
I really enjoyed this movie. Really creative ideas especially making acid blood a huge threat felt like they breathed fresh air into old concepts. This was also one of the best takes on Weyland androids. Enjoyed this a lot
That's why I root for movies like Deadpool 3 to flop hard. Woke or not woke, it needs to go. But apparently this "member?" garbage will never stop, and channels like Drinker and Nerdrotic are partially responsible.
@@VHBEngines repeating the "get away from her you bee" is not a call back. It's a flashing neon sign framed by a dozen topless dancers doing the can-can. It's as bad Big Chief Big Brother saying "if it bleeds, we can kill it" in that other overrated franchise reboot.
Prometheus gets undue hate. It had some good ideas, actors, characters and scenes. That’s more than can be said for most modern entertainment. There’s plenty to criticize but that doesn’t make it a landmark of awful cinema, and pretending it does seems like performative geek snobbery.