You just can't keep a good shill down, and in this case its everyone's favourite shill publication Kotaku - STILL trying to defend the Acolyte, this time claiming fans have been "watching it wrong" this whole time.
I love the fact that they tried SO HARD to portray the Jedi as the bad guys, and it backfired miserably. They have no concept of what writing actually is.
They also have no concept of what actually constitutes a "bad guy." In their twisted minds, the only villains are people who disagree with them, or who hold them accountable for their actions.
The part which makes me so angry is there's already an in universe argument for the Jedi being not the greatest people which actually makes at least a little narrative sense. How the Jedi handled some classes of problems contributed to the fall of Anakin and was alluded to in the original trilogy. They could have explored that. It's a part of the lore which hasn't gotten a lot of expansion on film or screen. The audience would be on board for the murky gray area of morality which gives rise to those issues. But no. Instead of moral ambiguity and interesting ideas for writing we get this.
Honestly I think the initial promise of the show - Evil Jedis! Gayest Star wars ever! - has ended up coming to nothing just because of the total lack of writing ability. If you want to write a story about evil Jedis, you need to be able to write a story period. These writers cannot craft a coherent and consistent narrative, so you can't draw any conclusions from it either
No, they succeeded wildly in portraying the Jedi as the bad guys, They were portrayed as common criminals, breaking into the tower, armed, wiping out the coven and then lying about it to the Council. That is the main problem with this show, the Jedi aren't supposed to be bad guys, but the show portrays them as such, literally wiping out almost 50 years of Star Wars history portraying the Jedi as heroic simply because they want too. It's pitiful.
It's insane that killing a lady turned demonic smoke monster then indirectly killing the other witches, who possessed a Jedi to kill his friends, somehow shows the Jedi as being bad guys...
100% ... wait, you mean turning into a smoke monster with fangs and evaporating a worried child is... a good thing? No wonder they think the dark side is friendly.
That quote at the beginning from Kotaku girl has already been proven false; the leaked Disney interview video says that there is a company mandate to exclude white men in upcoming projects.
@@Al-ok6xm There are plenty of competent people who are black, or women or whoever that they're straight up not hiring. It seems like not hiring people based on merit is causing many companies to implode.
@@Spacecadet690 The tone isn't necessary, look for something obscure or less mainstream that happens to be made by a woman or black person or whoever without anyone calling attention to it. One of the co-creators of Blue Eye Samurai is an Asian woman for example. Fullmetal Alchemist? An Asian woman. Just as a couple examples.
Social engineering. It's complicated enough for nature to find it's homeostasis, but "certain people know better". Sounds familiar. Just because the radical left do their best to not show/use physical violence, doesn't mean they aren't.
It's the conundrum of trying to force behavior in others. From the very ones that don't want others to force their behavior. Should be the last thing that you support ..
Calling it right now: the finale will answer no questions, and everyone will say "what the fuck was that?" Headlamp will then say: "See! It's a successful mystery! Everyone is asking what the fuck happened! That's why we need a season two."
Their argument is always the same: "audiences hate diversity". We don't hate diversity, we just hate crap. People didn't care about diversity or even noticed it when the stories were good, but the moment they called attention to it and made stories all about the gender or race of a character, people got annoyed for good reason cause the quality of the stories went downhill.
If audiences hate diversity, why is House of the Dragon so popular? Strong female leads, diverse cast, gay characters. Hmm, could it be they hired talented experienced people?
The Acolyte is what happens when moral relativism takes narrative form. There is no one to root for in the show, because the very idea of virtue is an unfamiliar concept for a team of writers and producers who are able to coast off their identity, as opposed to what they can contribute to the world.
Well said. It is like this in every they do. The writers/producers have no concept of what it takes to be virtuous (and it is painfully obvious), yet they "think" their characters are. It's truly mind-boggling. I only watch (& laugh) at the reviews. I literally can't/won't watch a second of this awful (& I mean AWFUL) carrion of Disney stories/shows.
@@cleanerben9636 That's possibly true, but it makes for poor fiction when it takes a world popular for its black and white view of good and evil and changes it.
Imo this attitude towards the Jedi is just a want to frame them as an oppressive institution lined up with the Senate. Like how the Church has been aligned with government + politics all these centuries to match their version of history. The whole thing is to portray the patriarchy as The Tibetan monks tried to asscend out of their bodies to reach enlightenment as if sex + the body are dirty or something + weren't that grounded with that aspect of themselves. Red is the colour of the root energy center + a chord to the center of the Earth, if you believe in that sort of thing, so they lost touch with the common people + the Red army basically wiped them out or took control of them as a spiritual lesson. Life can be a harsh teacher. Something these ill-usive women + all people who need an emergency to emerge-and-see will find out when their own behaviour comes around to bite 'em on the backside. Smug, cry for attention women like that Alyssa usually think they're been persecuted, have a meltdown + play the victim. Considering that they already play the victim, it'll be disturbing to see her fall from dis-grace. She's dissed enough, lol.
Except that Buddhist monasteries and Buddhism in general have been preserved by the Chinese government, and the Tibetan fiefdom was exiled to India and the Tibetans freed from slavery. So not the same mentality at all.
Nah, she’s not even the best at that. She’s just a pebble in peoples shoe, an annoying presence that you can’t wait to get rid of, but you know the minute you do sooner or later, you’ll just get another one. That’s the thing that really truly cuts me deeply is knowing even when we get rid of her, they’ll be another.
@@TheNefastor well, we're on record saying they're unfuckable, so that really keeps their constant "pdf" accusations in doubt whenever they attack us for wanting attractive women in media.
What Baggage Claim is talking about is literally a classic Star Trek episode where Kirk gets split into 2 parts that are both technically Kirk but missing key pieces, and neither of them can function correctly alone, so they have to reunite. They did the concept better and cleaner in 50 minutes than these hacks have done in 4 hours.
_The Enemy Within_ is the episode. I've actually been watching episodes of the Next Generation and Deep Space Nine recently. I'd forgotten how nice it is to have well-written stories that take 45 minutes to tell.
Force-sensitive twins growing up in totally different ways, only for their stories to intertwine because of the Jedi. Now where have I seen that before?
If my company was financially failing as deeply as Kotaku is, we would have closed our doors years ago. Because of that, when some employee exhibits contempt for our customers/the general public, it forces my leadership team to terminate that persons relationship with the company. GO media is literally throwing investor money in a bonfire until the fire eventually turns to coals and embers and runs out of money to waste. It defies all explanation that such a high profile media enterprise can be managed so poorly.
This is corporate communism. Profit is not the point. Ideological indoctrination is. And this isn't expected to be popular now. It is meant to be the only Version of these properties that will exist for the next generation once all the things created by those guilty of "wrongthink" is memoryholed.
Alyssa is the last vestige of the Buzzfeed Outrage click business model. The Less attention given to her the better. She craves attention and her takes are solely designed to get engagement. She best handle not with Breakdown her views and honestly engagement, She deserves total apathy.
That’s why I would never go and read/watch her stuff after watching this video. I have no issue with supporting Drinker, but I definitely don’t want to support Kotaku. Imo outrage baiting will die, because most audience will just consume a video like this, without ever going to Kotaku themselves, because most of them will learn how dumb it is to click on Kotaku eventually.
They’ll probably double down and add red haired girl from Willow and Falcon and Winter Solider to the cast just to intentionally make it worse. Who cares if she’s already Enfys Nest? Not like the writers care about Star Wars lore anyway.
Making an entire characters personality - I am black / a woman / gay, and focusing on only that will guarantee the failure of the game / film / series. Audiences want to be entertained by complex stories that make sense, free from implanted messages with a strong focus on the quality and consistency of the worlds lore. If all Game studios / film studios / TV channels wrote that at the top of every script we would have good media.
@@ttabood7462 the only issue with that is this one won’t be the reason a multi-million dollar project dies before it starts! Frosk will always have that over everyone else (except SBI)
4:25 If the Witches were in fact just knocked out like Kotaku says, that means Mae has even more blood on her hands, because surely they all died when the fire she caused destroyed their fortress and the Jedi are even less culpable for the massacre of the coven.
@@davorzdralo8000 that’s why I made our backyard fire pit out of pavers and surrounded it with wood for containment along with sand and dirt as kindling. We lost our house…
I'm a woman, and I've been a fan of primarily male targeted franchises my whole life, Star Wars, TMNT, Transformers, Batman, etc. I never needed them to cater to women. I liked them how they were, and all the changes made to be "inclusive" have just driven me away.
Likewise I accept that The Devil Wears Prada, Notting Hill, Sleepless in Seattle and the Oceans movies were all aimed at women but as a guy I enjoy them just the way they are. Of course, they have quietly stopped making such movies for women. I presume it's all part of the genderless movie environment they are intent on creating.
It doesn't matter if the content makes no money... it's the propaganda costs disguised as a business. I've been tormenting my head all this time getting around why all content is so bad. They don't want to make any money. To them it's just paid propaganda.
Well in this case they had to give Weinstein’s assistant whatever she wanted to reward her silence about Disney’s culpability, so they probably saw it as a necessary cost anyway, and all the relativist propaganda was just a way to make the best of it. They never could have thought a script this bad would help them.
There was a time in that beloved "galaxy so far far away" when the characters were mostly a Wide Variety of alien species and a few humans who would do "something important". *Now* , since Disney took the reins, there are very few aliens on screen in exchange for a Big diversity of humans with ridiculous clothes and hairstyles, which do not match Star Wars and who do little or nothing for the plot.
After the prequels and clone wars, Jedi bad is not subversive anymore. Having the Jedi being paragons of good and living up to their ideals would be the most subversive plot and probably a really good story
what happens when an organization is so large and ponderous as the jedi order and are serving a increasingly corrupt power structure. the thing that kept the jedi from implding into a sith organization in all but name was Master Yoda, and there were plenty of genuinely brave and good intentioned jedi, from kit fisto, ayla secura, yoda himself of course, and so on. but the foundations were corroding away. many jedi were weak or incompetent and or corrupt, and normally not in 'taking bribes' way but ina templar esk zealot sorta way. not asking the questions they should ask when asked to interene in a matter.
Yeah Kennedy has been “deconstructing” Star Wars like it’s a genius idea for over a decade. Sooner or later they’ll have to stop deconstructing and actually have an idea of their own, and they can’t do that.
Worst part this show take place in the High republic so called era that Jedis at there best but we didn’t get none of that in the show,in fact I would argue the prequel Jedi weren’t that bad they were just flaw. I agree it be a fresh idea for the Jedi living up to their ideals because of I’m tired of Jedis losing faith it didn’t work with Luke skywalker and didn’t work with Obi Wan.
@@jaieregilmore971 I always thought clone wars Jedi were PEAK. They were the only ones, other than Old republic jedi, who were in constant warfare. I would say, based on the jedi we saw in the acolyte, one knight from the prequels could take on 2-3 high republic jedi
Modern entertainment is like a bachelor party organised by your over-protective mother, up to and including the part where she resents you for no longer wanting to go to the party, because she's already put in so much effort after you specifically asked her not to.
When the actors you hire aren’t having fun portraying the characters you’ve written, then there’s a huge problem. There’s NO enthusiasm for their parts whatsoever.
I never got the idea that the Jedi are some sort of oppressive religion. I'd have to imagine if you're overseeing the peace of an entire galaxy you have to have a level of tolerance to the uncountable number of different cultures and aliens you'd find across the galaxy.
Considering how every planet we've seen so far is completely multi species, it's safe to assume that the galaxy as a whole has moved well beyond any issues like that, so clearly there must be a degree of acceptance or else people would rebel. It's not as if they don't fight over other things, people fight constantly, but those conflicts are motivated by conflicting individual desires, not xenophobia
Exactly. The Jedi Council even told them to leave the witches alone. That's not something an oppressive religion does, especially not one with a galactic government's resources at their beck and call. It would have had the witches obliterated from orbit, not told the investigators to back down.
That's from Legends. And they sort of were. But it was less that they were a oppressive cult and more that they had tied their cult to the Republic. They acted as a sort of quasi-religious police for the Republic which led them to destroy multiple other groups including the Mandalorians.
Thing is the modern writers are phisically incapable of separating their real-world sociopolitical views from everything they do, and as such since they hate the mainstream religion IRL and convincend themsleves it's nothing but an opressive system made to control people and put down any different belief system, they MUST make the Jedi reflect that in their writing, becasue we all know the only purpose of art is to reflect and push your personal real-world sociopoligical ideologies and nothing more (which is what the 'all art is political' crew ACUTALLY believes funnily enough.)
I tip my hat to you kind people for trying to save Star Wars (and Marvel, etc.). I for my part, have now learned to turn my back on the Sarlacc Pit that Disney has become and have mentally moved on to a new world.
I've discovered WH40k recently, so while it too is under a bit of a threat from DEI loves, it's definitely a great masculine alternative to Disney Star Wars.
@@whenpigsfly8178 best not get too attached to it. GW is so fucking stupid. Rich story and lore like star wars but they don't even get the chance to shine and get slammed by fucking amazon
It's pretty obvious that the creators of this show have a different view of morality than some people on this planet. Or should we say most people on this planet?
I fell on the floor laughing when I first saw that scene. It's still hilarious to watch and absolutely looks like Mercante...without the glasses, of course.
Instead of Sol not having a Padawan because he’s…not ready?…it could’ve been because he failed to intervene when his former Padawan was in trouble, and it cost them their life. Now, he’s unable to stand by and do nothing, even if he’s being a bit emotional and delusional with attachment. And Torbin could’ve been troubled by premonitions of a dark chasm that come true when he’s mindgraped and sees what the witches worship. Might be why he spent so much time meditating, as the chasm gets bigger over the years. There. Simple, quick and dirty fix. It puts fault on the Jedi for their actions, but it gives credible motivation.
Exactly, and I wager it didn't take that long to come up with. Instead we have a nothing explanation behind why Sol doesn't have a Padawan yet, a Master-Apprentice relationship between Indara and Torbin that makes no sense for the situation we see (If it were Indara and Torbin alone, okay, but you're out on a world for over two months with two other Jedi who aren't your Master . . . this is not some academic lesson.), and they gave Torbin the most simplistic motivation that you can think of that doesn't even make sense with his actions towards the end (Likely because they didn't want to make it dark so as to not make the Witches look more evil, and because they needed SOME kind of motivation for why Torbin killed himself later so they make him be the inciting reason for going back for the girls instead of Sol at first.).
People have been able to point out fixes like this since Force Awakens and yet we STILL get nothing but trash. It just points further and further toward a money laundering theory imo
The real irony is the entire show is supposed to show how women are better but the women in the coven get beat at every step. It really keeps showing the opposite of what they intend.
It's a testament to how bad the writing is on this show that it was unclear to people whether all those witches were killed or knocked out. Something that straightforward wouldn't be the least bit vague if any real effort had been put into making this show.
Outfits like Kotaku are most of the reason why nobody trusts or respects gaming journalism to begin with. The jedi did almost everything right. The only mistakes that could be laid at their feet is that they dared interfere in cult business to REQUEST permission to test their children and to show up with more than one Jedi when it came time to pick up the one child that had tested positive and expressed a desire to go with the Jedi. Meanwhile the space witches demonized the Jedi as part of their educational practice, acted defensive when they showed up, lied to them about the presence of the children, then instructed the children to lie during the test, hid the children away when the time came for one of them to be handed over, assembled in an armed and belligerent mob when the Jedi showed up as expected, menaced them. During that fight a whole bunch of them team up to literally mind-control one of the Jedi to attack his friends. They couldn't have made the Jedi more in the right if they tried. Apparently all the Sith had to do to be the poor suppressed underdogs was to recruit only women and have them bump uglies at night. Instant recipe for justice. What they could have done was show the Padawan as the naive recruit and the other Jedi as the jaded, arrogant cop types. After millenia of Jedi supremacy they started taking rights and liberties that seem utterly out of bound (each of them established in response to some tragedy and valid for that specific situation, but being too broadly applied because the Jedi have been unchallenged for so long), have the Jedi apply those rights to a community that didn't opt into their oversight or agree to their stewardship over the Force and Force sensitive children and have that go terribly bad in a situation where all the signs pointed to crazy space witch Sith cult when, in reality, the signs were simply misleading or badly interpreted due to the defensive and confrontational attitude of the cult leader. A sort of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" kind of deal.
The idea that the Jedi could sometimes be arrogant and morally questionable was at the heart of KOTOR. Its not 'new' or 'groundbreaking'. Just like the Cortosis they made smilo's helmet out of, all that was done in the Acolyte is rip ideas out of already established lore and sew them together to create a Frankenstien monster and then slap a 'Star Wars' sticker on it.
Many star wars stories have depicted the Jedis hubris and dogma as the cause of their downfalls. Some of the best stories tackle this, such as KotOR 2. The Acolyte does not cover this topic. It thinks it does, but it doesn't understand the Jedi or basic storytelling well enough to do so.
They don't think they're making entertainment. They think they're having a (one-sided) conversation with the viewers, but we're not comprehending what they're saying
So far what I’ve got is “Jedi bad, communist lesbian space witches good” I don’t agree with it, at all, but I THINK that’s what they’re TRYING to say….?
I've been a gamer for 40 years and I can proudly state I have never clicked on/read or watched anything created by Kotaku except for clips my favourite youtubers put in their videos. Everything is much clearer if you avoid mainstream media of any sort.
It is becoming more blatant every week that the Acolyte writers did not read each other’s scripts. The level of contradictions between episodes and from the beginning to end of the series is insane.
Kotaku are just cheerleaders at this point for The Message, and see any criticism of substance to be an attack on their ideology rather than just actual reviews.
"The Acolyte is about the Jedi's hubris." If they had any understanding of the Jedi they would know that you cannot be a Jedi if you are blinded by hubris. These people don't know what they are doing.
Honestly, Kotaku has been bankrupt for years... it's an organization entirely run by activists and only kept alive by people working for free and minimum wage
Torban being wided-eyed and seeing the jedi as heroic doesn't work though. Remember, they are trained from very early childhood specifically to clamp down on such emotional aspirations. Because. Ya know. Dark Side.
They aren’t trained to not have emotions, otherwise they couldn’t feel compassion, Jedi are trained to not let their emotions cloud their judgement and not to get overly attached to people because they will lead to the dark side.
If mother Anassya had only said right from the start ''Osha can go with you if she choses to, '' _nothing of this whole shit would have ever happened!_ They all died because they didn't post a memo on the fridge. This is textbook bad writing. And they wonder why we despise that crap.
Because the Sith apparently killed themselves and they didn’t have Sith to fight for so long, although you have to keep in mind, while Yoda and Windu had some hesitation to accept that the Sith were back, they did make sure that they had evidence and confirmation about it.
Darth Derek would be an AMAZING character for a prequel series. he's a sith that predates the rule of two era, and he's basically a smug smarmy dick that is full of himself and even the other sith hate him. like "oh god... NOT Derek!" and he creates trouble for protaganists and the sith alike, his ship was stolen from his master, he participates in smuggling, blows the profit on rediculous things, he jsut lives life to the fullest and uses the force to troll people AND get his way, the only time things ever get dark is when he DOES get serious....
I don't think the coven was supposed to be depicted as pure good and the Jedis weren't supposed to be depicted as pure evil. However, they have botched it and made the Jedis more sympathetic than they intended and the coven less so. I think the narrative is meant to be about the Jedi being prejudiced, but not malicious. They didn't fully commit to that, but also they probably expected the audience to be more sympathetic to the witches. The witches were shown to be bigoted and dishonest as well as aggressive in Episode 3.
I love that the people making _The AcoSHYTE_ and writing the shill pieces keep pushing this idea that Dark Side users are simply misunderstood, and that the Jedi's perspective is wrong simply because they're the group in power. They are *LITERALLY* making the exact same argument both Sidious and Anakin made in Episode III. You know...the SITH LORDS who were the literal villains of the Original Trilogy. Did the Jedi Order make mistakes? Absolutely. Were the Jedi perfect? Absolutely not. Does that mean the Jedi are wrong about the Dark Side and the Sith? Absolutely, unequivocally, not. Every time these hacks write something, they simply add more evidence to the mountains we already have that they are actually pleased to be evil.
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I can't unsee the fact that, one Tyrone joins the conversation, Theory's panel moves and it looks like he's got large arms and a drink, the whole time.
12:18 Mae didn’t want revenge for the death of her mothers and the rest of the coven, just her sister. That’s why she decided to surrender. Couldn’t care less that her mom was stabbed to death in front of her. So the writers even screwed that up.