Driver Battles Season 2 Ep 1 Mazda Miata vs. Honda Civic Hatch (Ek) 

as an owner of both a b16 swapped hatch and a Miata I gotta say Miatas the superior chassis, Honda b series the better engine

I have owned both at the same time, & am a fan of both. Both are fun cars, but they have some pretty distinct differences. Since I drove them back to back for years, I feel confident in saying that if your goal is handling, Miata is always the answer. The Honda guy talked smack several times. The Miata guy never talked smack about the Honda guy. The Miata guy even said he was a Honda fan! Just because of that, I liked to see the Honda guy get beaten.

In defense of the Honda, that car looked real good and this is coming from a miata guy on his 3rd miata.

Miata people are chill. Honda people are cocky sometimes. Thats why i got into miatas. Its about driving not bragging rights

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Civic driver handled the challenges of fwd quite well. I was expecting lots of understeer and early braking but he managed his line quite well with some brake-oversteer. Well done

Correction, V8 Miata is always the answer. During college, I drove a 97 Geo Metro that was the slowest thing in the world. After many years of boring drives, I was able to get my dream car and I now have the loudest and most obnoxious car on my street. That is, a 99' NB Miata with an LS1 swap, T56, and a Ford 8.8 differential. I'd love to take it to your show. I am no race car driver but I've done a few autocross days on a 92' Miata and have ended up on the podium once or twice. Instagram: angel_gdo 99' Miata Mods: V8 Roadsters Subframe. V8 Roadsters chassis reinforcement kit. 5.7L Aluminum LS1. Custom cam. Corvette intake. Custom dual magnaflow exhaust. 6 speed T56 trans w/MGW short shifter. 8.8 IRS rear differential with Auburn LSD Aluminum radiator with electric fans. Hard Dog Roll Bar. Racing door bars. Megan racing adjustable monotube coilover suspension. Wilwood big brake kit. TRM 15x8+25 wheels. 225/45r15 Hankook RS3 tires Dual hood lift kit with aero catches. Wideband AFR gauge. Mechanical oil pressure gauge. Catch can setup. Manual steering rack. (It's a workout!) Custom tune @ 370whp/351wtq (For now) Weight 2650lbs.

The civic didn’t need a vtec head, that driver wasn’t very experienced. Use more track dude. Miata driver outdrove the hell out of you

After comparing the 2 videos, it appears Miata guy was using more of the track than Civic guy.

Had a 2010 miata and a stripped 96 integra gsr with the 1.8vtec (b16?) and 1.8vtec is awesome when vtec kicks in. However, steering ratio is slower and it's a bigger car, feels bulkier than a miata. Speed is one thing, the feel and engagement of the miata is on another level.

MIATA'S ALWAYS THE ANSWER 👍

Front wheel drive is the clear and obvious choice for performance driving. Just look towards the highest levels of racing to plainly see that it is the best drive train. Formula 1, top fuel drag racing, moto gp, 24 hour endurance racing, and of course the WRC all set the majority of their track records using front wheel drive only vehicles because they are obviously the best choice. For sure, its very scientifical. 😂

Wait this wasn't even b20vtec??? That's not bad at all.

I feel like the miata driver is more experienced.

Little Honda did alright for being more of a "street car" that the Miata. No aero, less HP (though probably not by much 10whp or so). I run against Miata's all the time in AutoX, and no... they're not always the answer, lol.

You did MX5s proud! Keep it up.

How about a 2018 SI. The Type R's little brother. I got one with a little boost, a big wing, and a large attitude. Would love to share with you guys.

I own an Na8c miata and an integra they are both fun cars miata does feel better in the corners but that VTEC at 9k is so nice on the straightaways. I can’t ever decide so i keep both. One day i will k swap the Miata so i can have my cake and eat too

I’m checking around me like if there’s a bee hive around me

All else equal, rwd wins over fwd. That said, my new track car is a b18a turbo CRX. My old track car is a '95 turbo Miata. If I can get the CRX within a second of the Miata's lap times, I'll be stoked. My Miata put the hurt on Vettes, Mustanks, even Porsche all over TX for years.

Expected outcome. Miata > Civic on a track.

Oh SNAP! that 6speed transmission caught me off guard and he drove the crap outta that miata! Beast! Great race! Thing is way faster than my stock miata! He deftly has a tune...

Miata was way ahead by the first turn...im a huge honda fan but miatas are the best track cars

Best episode ever.

No VTEC = no surprise on result

Honda boi so salty lol

I might get smack for this but I got a old 93 Geo prizm with 4AGE 20V silvertop swap with 5 speed lsd running on blended e85 and 93 pump mix, the car is gutted and have coilovers on all corners with federal 959 195/50/15r I would love to give that a run.

How have not come across this channel.. love the presentation. Subbed!!!!

When the trash talker takes the L😹😹

im sure you can find drivers to do full blown touge style cat n mouse BATTLE!!!!

You have to have the same driver for these kind of comparisons. Its redundent.

Nice job representing us Miata bois 😂🙌

The Miata had a better driver, and aero.

Well Done Chris Willard! MIATA FTW

As the owner of a 94 Miata 1.8 and a K-swapped 1993 Civic Hatch I feel that the civic is better overall but that may have to do with I have a better handling setup on the civic over the miata. Miata is bone stock and civic has spring, strut bracing, swaybars, better tires and brakes, and I've added weight to the rear to make the weight be about 52F/48R.

May the angriest bee hive win!!!🐝🐝🐝

The emphasis on the tires 🤣

He would have easily won with Vtec. That was a very good battle 👍🏾. I have a 95 civic 2dr with B18C5 swap it would be fun to go on the show.

Civic has a 120hp junk crv engine without VTEC common now. Atleast race a b16a engine civic. That mx-5 though is sexy

Do it like Motortrend . Uncut side by side timed laps. The Civic suddenly made up lots of time at the end.

love my turbo na16 but i also want a civic someday

Heck yeah! As soon as I get out of spin class I'm gonna take my Miata for a drive!

I dont know how someone with a 90s civic can say they wont drive a miata. Lol your both in the same catagory to other car enthusiast

I love both cars! I'll take the Miata!

Drives a Honda yet is dissing a Mazda?? lmfao, Honda boys have no clue..

Fantastic content, guys. Great video. But maybe turn the music down, or even off? Pweez :)

Got a accord that has been surprising Subaru’s on the track I’d come out to play!

real wheel drive is just too much fun to pass up. its more and more rare these days so being able to buy a fun reliable reel wheel drive car is awesome

I have both cars the civic is good everyday driving but i use my boosted mx5 on the weekends it drives fantastic you cant dispute it people make fun but at the end of the day for the price you can't get anything close to it especially when you boost them. I would love to build a mx5 with a honda motor and turbo that you'll have a great recipe for fun

Sounds like Mario kart when they started racing 😂

Good match up.

Got a E46 M3, but I’m up in NorCal and only do NorCal tracks

Every vid i watch late, being on someone with a comment. [Ive only seen 3 races so far... I wanna say the miata. But i don't know that suspension. Ive been burnt by a prelude on the hwy smaller engine but I'm gong with the civic because of the koni's. I have a 2001 miata by the way. His headers are 4-1 so he is sacrificing low-mid tq

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I mean, car for car. One needs an entire swap to keep up.idc how “ For the Miata to be stock besides bolt ons, it’s a clear win

So, the Miata has more HP, weighs less and has better suspension... yeah, I knew the civic would lose.

Those 2 engines at the same time is a confusing noise

It was evident that the Miata held the corners better. In the Honda’s defence driving tactics could have been better with less braking on corners while making use of the understeer across the whole corner. The driving tactics for these two cars are opposite as themselves, one rear wheel drive and the other front wheel drive. I had a Honda Del Sol and Miata at the same time. Got rid of the Honda 25 years on the Miata still stays.

Pro-kit springs and 205 series tires would return similar lap time. It still won't beat the Miata, but you end up with the ultimate street car.

I had both a NA6 (stock) and an EG6 (B18) and I have to say the NA6 wont even come close in touching the civic. That said, the NA6 is alot of fun and one can drive it at the limit easily daily, whereas the civic is too fast to be driving at the limit on the roads. Both are fun cars.

I like to think I'm fast, I have a 6th Gen 1LE I also live in Socal

Why the Miata? Thant's a interesting question. Miata is the answer to every question, So "because Miata?" I own a crx, the fwd Miata.

Honda needed vtec. Also died laughing at the endless bwaaaaaa.... 2 minutes later.... whaaaoooo.

Civic baby got smoked

I’d like to take a VW corrado g60 or a rbv2 Scion FR-S

How do "massage" 135bhorsepower out of it when they come with 140 unless that is at the wheels but he didn't say that so which is it.

Thats about it, continues to list the mods

Miata is always the answer

Guy hating on miatas. Might not be his cup of tea, but there isn't anything wrong with them. Thats the whole purpose of choice.

Watching the few shots of the honda cornering his front tires didnt look square to the road even on extreme cornering like his camber was way off or lowered too much.

if it was b20V, wouldve won.

should have spent the money on building a b20vtec with ITR replica pistons rather than using $2200 wheels... oh well

Should swap cars, practice and see what happens

Well.... driver skill is the main thing in play. They are both equally fast cars. btw what car should I get Mazda or Honda?

Civic owners are always cocky bro

I'd love to participate in a head to head match ! I drive a FRS

Miata will always be the answer

great vid would like to see a mr2 mk3 roadster there spose ta be really good on track like a poor mans lotus ellis !!

That's a clean lookin civic. Too bad it didnt win.

A b20 swapped miata is the answer 👌

135whp out of a miata engine is pretty insane. The ek chassis isnt one of the best honda chassis for something like this. I wonder if it has phk or p3f pistons? Also with a vtec head its game over

Dude in miata can drive, and Honda needs vtec or better driver

lol what is that lil boxing glove looking thing on the front left part of the front bumper on the miata..? something covering the tow hook?

99 civic coupe with an LS Frankenstein vtec b18b tuned I’m down for some fun

It would have been closer but the dude driving the honda had good lines but bad throttle input

Where you guys make this I would love to be in it

Miata was the answer that day.

Good race I still would take the hatch

Wait do you think you would do a beginner driver episode? I'd come out with my 86 FC Rx7 freshly rebuilt street port NA motor, cheap coilovers Avid Av20 17x9 stock NA trans stock LSD No driver mod 😅 Westminster, CO

I got a 94 integra type r clone that’s daily driven but is track really that will give most cars a run for their money.

Honda boi is a bit of a wanker. He should do something about that.

Would be cool to see a 2zz celica gts (vvtli) go against a b18 vtec car

Honda has a better exhaust note and the Miata has a better intake honk

Does everyone have to run nitto nt01 ??

Miata!!!!

I love both cars but Miata is definitely the superior car

all I hear is DBZ characters charging up 4:47

I have a k24 na miata and a supercharged s2000. Fly me to socal and pick your poison

Lol, VTEC head required...

wow that was close. how much do these cars weigh? i wonder if you swapped drivers and cars, what would the time be.