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A driver is recovering after he was shot in what police said was a case of road rage Monday morning. Forsyth County Sheriff Ron Freeman said an angry driver pulled out a gun and fired multiple times at a man who had honked his horn at him for driving too slow.
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@brianstelter7067
@brianstelter7067 Год назад
You pull a gun intentionally, you shoot intentionally, it's attempted murder. He absolutely should get 20 years minimum.
@DaSesh
@DaSesh Год назад
i absolutely agree no lawyer should take his case for free either make him pay.
@ernestwooley1245
@ernestwooley1245 Год назад
Now Mr Brian...YOU KNOW THAT WHITE POWER IS ON DISPLAY HERE ...RIGHT?💯🏴‍☠️
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
​@@DaSesh lol. American jurisprudence may be something you can research.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
@user-qr7ee2cp4y Год назад
I'd be happy with 10 yrs... we know it won't be half that.
@olorin1710
@olorin1710 Год назад
Agreed. The cop should get at least 6 months for using his deadly weapon (vehicle) to drive the shooter off the road.
@sesshokitten
@sesshokitten Год назад
This is why I tell my mom to stop honking at ppl unless it's to avoid an accident. Ppl are crazy out here
@j.a.3138
@j.a.3138 Год назад
True. I even honk at ppl when they sit at green lights
@dwaynejones1555
@dwaynejones1555 Год назад
J.A. or when they are about to hit me in a parking lot. But that's it.
@edwardpfrommer5046
@edwardpfrommer5046 Год назад
@@DivaRoachyour wife sounds awesome! 😂
@mithos789
@mithos789 Год назад
ill honk at people. turtles should get out of the fast lane.
@nicoleraheem1195
@nicoleraheem1195 Год назад
I agree ❤
@poorlittlebiker6476
@poorlittlebiker6476 Год назад
Sheriff said it best, it’s stupidity. I can’t imagine wasting my life away in jail because I got honked at on my way to work.
@orbitaljellyfish808
@orbitaljellyfish808 Год назад
Nah, he didn’t say it best, and it’s not stupidity. It’s plain evil to be that willful to cause harm and/or death over a horn honk.
@mintysquinty2989
@mintysquinty2989 Год назад
How is he only being charged with aggravated assault? He tried to murder a man over him being honked at. Bud needs to never see the light of day again.
@internallyinteral
@internallyinteral Год назад
Cause a manslaughter charge would never stick.
@elhoward7440
@elhoward7440 Год назад
It looks like attempted murder to me to. Just because you have lousy aim, that doesn't make you not a murderer!
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 Год назад
Murder is a deliberate act with the intent to take a person's life. It would be hard to prove that was his intent. That's why a lesser charge was selected as it is easy to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Just firing at random into the car is very different from if they stopped at the roadside and had words then this idiot pulled his gun and shot the other in the chest killing him. That would be an easy murder to prove in court.
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 Год назад
@@elhoward7440 You contradict yourself. The ONLY thing that makes a murderer is if they actually kill someone. However, I understand your opinion it looks like attempted murder though. The only problem is the prosecution would have to convince a jury of that.
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 Год назад
@@internallyinteral Cos nobody died is the reason manslaughter wouldn't stick!!! OMG some people! LOL.
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions Год назад
People who drive like crap tend to freak out when reminded of how crappy they drive.
@alfr1
@alfr1 Год назад
Truth. That's why I never use my horn, just brake early and drive a little under the limit. Even had a cop stop me for driving 50 in a 55, and he was evasive in his reasoning for stopping me. Kept me there asking again and again if there was some kind of a problem, finally I said, "Just go call your supervisor out here and we will let HIM straighten you out, that I broke no traffic laws and this is illegal imprisonment to keep me here for 50 minutes without ANY charges, just you THREATENING to call out a Drug dog to search my car. And me refusing every time you ask me to let you search it. My Lawyer is gonna love this." Less than 5 minutes later he walked back to me, telling me to watch MY attitude and start driving legally. What a joke these BULLIES WITH BADGES are!
@unovox
@unovox Год назад
Yup!....Gun sanity!
@snowman374th
@snowman374th Год назад
They sure do..
@HingleMacCringleberry
@HingleMacCringleberry Год назад
Facts
@elhoward7440
@elhoward7440 Год назад
I just hit the brakes when people do that to me.. .but only if I'm driving an old car I don't care about.
@smokeydabeecharlescoleman8365
ATTEMPTED MURDER !!!, not assault . Punish these people and protect the public.
@alectorellishiddenchips1725
The former officer probably asked the guy get a lesser charge
@kylemoran4343
@kylemoran4343 Год назад
WHY NOT CHARGE HIM WITH ATEMPTED MURDER ? our judicial system is broken.
@wildbobentertainment
@wildbobentertainment Год назад
At best, it would attempted manslaughter, but I totally agree with you.
@kylemoran4343
@kylemoran4343 Год назад
@NVMVNV Yup. I know, the english language "sucks" ! I figure, why waste an extra "T" when it doesn't real "l" y need to be there. Sorry I blew, or is it blue your "gram "m"ar mind !
@mainely8007
@mainely8007 Год назад
Aggravated assault is a slam dunk to prove in this case - the penalty is between 1 and 20 years so he could catch 20. Conversely trying to prove murder has a potential for a jury of morons to not find him guilty.
@teerollings6919
@teerollings6919 Год назад
They might not get a conviction if they go for attempted murder. It's hard to prove his intention was murder beyond a shadow of doubt. It's very difficult for prosecutors to prove to a jury what a suspect was _thinking._ Prosecutors are more likely to get a conviction if they go for the crimes they know they can prove: possessing and firing the gun. They have witness testimony and physical evidence and a confession that proves he fired the gun.
@R-Lee-
@R-Lee- Год назад
​@@wildbobentertainment why would it be attempted manslaughter and not attempted murder?
@kis4beauty
@kis4beauty Год назад
What a damn fool! Glad he was caught.
@EnterpriseNCC-1701
@EnterpriseNCC-1701 Год назад
Agreed. Some people are just dumb.
@skillz1855
@skillz1855 Год назад
If he's a fool most people in this country is. This is the new Normal
@lianalonge1984
@lianalonge1984 Год назад
Truly RIDICULOUS. He should serve no less than 15 years.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 Год назад
It costs between $60,000 and $100thousand to keep someone in jail.
@Yuan-lo3zz
@Yuan-lo3zz Год назад
@@veramae4098 And? The court system has put away people for years.
@aquiladolcide9735
@aquiladolcide9735 Год назад
20-25 at least. Imagine what harm he will do once out. Unstable people like this needs to be in a institution or prison
@Ummkelechi
@Ummkelechi Год назад
@@aquiladolcide9735 absolutely! These people need to pay for their actions!!
@anovino1992
@anovino1992 Год назад
@@veramae4098 What's your point?
@nateh3441
@nateh3441 Год назад
If he is that triggered by a car horn, he needs to be locked up. Pathetic.
@StishFicks
@StishFicks Год назад
But the horn hurt his wittle feewings because evewyone is so sensitive nowadays!
@trippynicktv2985
@trippynicktv2985 Год назад
is your last name higgers?
@justiniswebb9
@justiniswebb9 Год назад
I bet he's a Trumper.. trumpers ALWAYS have their panties in a wad.
@MeMe-hu8wx
@MeMe-hu8wx Год назад
He's an egotistical maniac
@justindavidson8333
@justindavidson8333 Год назад
@johnscott9180 people get on the highway and automatically move all the way to the left. At least once a day, I see someone will do 65 in a 70 in fast lane.
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 Год назад
Wow, someone with a restraining order goes from 0 to 10 on the anger scale over being honked at.
@Milesco
@Milesco Год назад
Can't imagine why he became the subject of a restraining order.
@mainely8007
@mainely8007 Год назад
Guy has a major case of "nobody tells ME what to do"
@Empower358
@Empower358 Год назад
I’m not going to lie, I’m at risk of becoming that type of person because of circumstances/problems in my life. Just simply resenting authority and really just repudiating all of my obligations to submit to authority because I hate being controlled. In summary, I really hope every event in my life doesn’t culminate to this in the future.
@Empower358
@Empower358 Год назад
I do not want to become this man
@ronmcmartin4513
@ronmcmartin4513 Год назад
See, Gun Control Laws work! And more Gun Control laws will work even "more better".(sarcasm)
@swedesam
@swedesam Год назад
One shot should be aggravated assault, but two to five shots with injury on the victim should be an attempted murder charge. He really meant it and wasn't on accident.
@mictza450
@mictza450 Год назад
The system is jacked up
@NotThatGuyPal.
@NotThatGuyPal. Год назад
I miss the good ol days with this type of stuff was just a simple fist fight.
@anklebiter9116
@anklebiter9116 Год назад
First and knife fights are obsolete. I assume everyone is carrying. And so should you.
@NotThatGuyPal.
@NotThatGuyPal. Год назад
@@anklebiter9116 I do but I understand my ROE thanks to the military. I don’t understand why people are popping off rounds at people for petty BS.
@3x3mm
@3x3mm Год назад
Who what The 70s🙂
@NotThatGuyPal.
@NotThatGuyPal. Год назад
@@3x3mm 2010-15 that’s around when I had a few.
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
its because the clowns that were scared and wouldnt fight now have guns because they think it makes them equal, when they are still just scared clowns.
@AL.BUNDY.
@AL.BUNDY. Год назад
Maximum sentencing please. No one wants a violent attempted murderer in our society.
@JWC24.7
@JWC24.7 Год назад
Like tRUMP?! 🤔✅
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
you left out the real crime - driving slow in the fast lane - I can understand someone being mad at me and wanting to kill me, cant uderstand driving slow in the fast lane
@michie-wt9lz
@michie-wt9lz Год назад
@@tomr3422 although aggravating, it’s no reason to open fire on someone. I hope you were being sarcastic
@Weggorino
@Weggorino Год назад
@@JWC24.7 Trump has nothing to do with this. Get your TDS fixed.
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
@@michie-wt9lz you might want to actually watch the video with an adult and then have them explain it to you -
@eltomas3634
@eltomas3634 Год назад
The Good news is: They caught him. The Great news is: He is no longer going slow in the fast lane.
@jafo766
@jafo766 Год назад
Driving slow in passing lane is like cutting in line at the grocery store , not well tolerated anywhere.
@mr.foxwiz1653
@mr.foxwiz1653 Год назад
At least for a couple of weeks
@AnarSchism.
@AnarSchism. Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂 funny A.F
@davewallace1613
@davewallace1613 Год назад
Dont tailgate an you dont get shot😂
@winiolivache1774
@winiolivache1774 Год назад
A hot headed a-hole,soon to be Bubba's bestie.
@ratherbe7
@ratherbe7 Год назад
He wasn’t even supposed to have a gun because of a Code 16-5-94, imagine that. No laws would’ve stopped this. I hope the victim pulls through with a clean bill of health 🙏🏽
@elhoward7440
@elhoward7440 Год назад
I hope the victim gets a HUGE reward in the civil suite and winds up with all the road rager's assets!
@Wisdom24-7
@Wisdom24-7 Год назад
I can't be mad at him I pull my gun out every time someone blow there horn at me. I haven't shot nobody yet
@yourmomsspermdoner
@yourmomsspermdoner Год назад
No American laws.
@davidschneyer
@davidschneyer Год назад
Which is exactly why this country is forever Fucked.
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
We don't have adequate gun laws because one particular political party is bought and paid for by the gun lobby.
@jt8251
@jt8251 Год назад
This is someone with the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old.
@markusnickel764
@markusnickel764 Год назад
So its important-before you can buy a gun...you must having make a psychologic test!!
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
Tbh both of the guys in this situation proved themselves worthy of the label.
@jt8251
@jt8251 Год назад
@@mortalclown3812 true that
@gregGould
@gregGould Год назад
More like a 10 year old having a temper tantrum and being capable of hurtful evil actions.
@ticenits1926
@ticenits1926 Год назад
This is the future of conservative America
@alanaldpal950
@alanaldpal950 Год назад
Some of the best “self defense experts” recommend that you treat all strangers that you have a possible confrontational encounter with as potentially people that are a hair away from “going postal” for no apparent reason.
@vicordecastro2851
@vicordecastro2851 Год назад
​@@MuffinCHeeler_ so simply put don't be a 'honker' then - 'cause some don't like being "honkees" . .. ...
@SinisterScoundrel6562
@SinisterScoundrel6562 Год назад
​@@MuffinCHeeler just rip around em and flee.
@eksbocks9438
@eksbocks9438 Год назад
​@@MuffinCHeeler Exactly.
@SL-pg4dh
@SL-pg4dh Год назад
Some people wanna play police, but they don't have police protection. They think it's their job to make others drive to their liking, when they can simply go around them.
@PhilMoskowitz
@PhilMoskowitz Год назад
Yet what's the first thing they say about dealing with a neighbor that plays loud music or has a barking dog.
@juanstarnotip8122
@juanstarnotip8122 Год назад
the two worst crimes imaginable, shooting someone and driving slow in the fast lane, i hope this scumbag rots in prison
@Thunder_Bear_mg
@Thunder_Bear_mg Год назад
Passing lane.
@abelponcedeleon
@abelponcedeleon Год назад
@@Thunder_Bear_mg thank you. Gosh even the news reporter got it wrong
@BimmerWon
@BimmerWon Год назад
The cop was completely in the wrong here not only tailgating but trying to get the guy to do something illegal. The guy being honked at acted completely in self defense. His actions were justified and he deserves to be free.
@workingthrumyissues
@workingthrumyissues Год назад
The good news is the person who has the restraining order on him now rest well knowing he's behind bars.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Год назад
Well, like what I did, I got out and had a "good talking-to" with that person who put me there.
@rickb2267
@rickb2267 Год назад
Looser is probably out by now.
@jrkr7357
@jrkr7357 Год назад
gun + emotional = shoot someone
@adamschrader328
@adamschrader328 Год назад
@@jrkr7357 gun+ logic= shoot back
@simonq5522
@simonq5522 Год назад
@@Zeevuhl What are you even talking about “we?” That guy is a loser for shooting at someone over a honked horn. Deranged people like him need to stay in prison away from the general public. Good to know that’s what you lump yourself together with.
@indigorose1270
@indigorose1270 Год назад
Under a restraining order with a loaded handgun in the car. Hope the person that filed that restraining order is watching. Aggravated assault. Should be attempted murder.
@josiel152
@josiel152 Год назад
This monster should be sentenced to a very heavy sentence he is totally insane and needs to be locked away
@marstondavis
@marstondavis Год назад
Aggravated assault? Yes, X5! One count for each shot!
@ph3nom3nal85
@ph3nom3nal85 Год назад
I like that officer saying it's simply stupidity" we should deem stupidity a pandemic bcuz there's seemingly alot in America.
@Darkmattermonkey77
@Darkmattermonkey77 Год назад
It’s rampant. Seems to have gotten worse after lockdowns ended too(?). People forgot how to behave in public.
@Litfilmz
@Litfilmz Год назад
@@Darkmattermonkey77 keep voting blue and this is what you get, a country of people who don’t respect rules of society because the very people that run their society are telling them they don’t have to. First it started with “okay sure gay men can get married” and now not even ten years later it’s “why can’t drag queens go to elementary schools and strip while reading?” We’re doomed.
@MsAchampion
@MsAchampion Год назад
​@@Darkmattermonkey77 For real though! And forgetting to put on some clothes too!
@snowman374th
@snowman374th Год назад
AND THE LEFT WING EVERYTHING TEACH IT
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 Год назад
It's been that way for many years.
@arielguzman9336
@arielguzman9336 Год назад
Things will never change until we start making examples out of these people
@jpizel1070
@jpizel1070 Год назад
People out there throwing their lives away for the most mundane things smh.
@Renae5147
@Renae5147 Год назад
Someone with a temper that causes them to act as irrational as that shouldn’t even be on the open road. He needs serious help.
@kalegallarde6369
@kalegallarde6369 Год назад
That's attempted murder not aggravated assault give him 10 yrs or more
@so.many.obstacles
@so.many.obstacles Год назад
It is not attempted murder. It would behoove you to understand the law.
@georgiacarry4748
@georgiacarry4748 Год назад
Aggravated Assault IS attempted murder in Georgia. From the statute O.C.G.A. 16-5-21 Aggravated Assault A person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults: With intent to murder, to rape, or to rob; With a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; With any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in strangulation; or A person or persons without legal justification by discharging a firearm from within a motor vehicle toward a person or persons.
@kalegallarde6369
@kalegallarde6369 Год назад
@Georgia Carry the main difference between aggravated assault and attempted murder is the presence of intent. Though neither crime results in a death, the charge will be attempted murder if you the defendant intended this outcome. Attempted murder is a premediated crime, while aggravated assault is not. They aren't the same but the outcome of the punishment should be held the same
@kalegallarde6369
@kalegallarde6369 Год назад
@@so.many.obstacles it's attempted murder because his intent was to shoot at the person maybe you should learn a thing or two about the law
@andrebrown4669
@andrebrown4669 Год назад
These hot 🔥 headed 😡 people are making it difficult for the rest of us to protect ourselves while in our vehicles.
@SuperMassman
@SuperMassman Год назад
Ring, ring,, Hello Boss, I'm not going to be able to be at work for awhile. Boss: How long? .. ummm 20 years or so.. Boss: .. click
@HMBRTOABLE
@HMBRTOABLE Год назад
This is why people got shot going into the wrong yard, showing up at the wrong house, or meeting the wrong person. The first sign of crazy, with major reason to arrest them in the first place, and they choose to ignore it and be gentle about it. Those aren’t the people we should try and understand. We should understand that if it happened once with little reason, then it could happen again.
@Donkeybone10
@Donkeybone10 Год назад
I was driving, and a guy in a work truck was hogging both lanes, so I hit the horn to let him know, and he went ballistic. He stopped his truck in the middle of the road, and he went into a disgusting fit of rage. I went by him ,and he started following me and then passed me and stopped again to rage some more. I went around him again to get away but I couldn't find a good place to get away. So I stopped, and then I could see him in my mirror coming up behind me . I thought he would stop or just go around me. He plowed into the back of my truck .He got out of his truck and came up trying to get into my truck, but my door was locked. He was cussing and yelling at me . I called the police. Be careful out there folks.
@mar25947
@mar25947 Год назад
So scary. Glad you’re ok ❤
@thegreyavenger2
@thegreyavenger2 Год назад
Please tell me he was arrested
@ATL2TExas
@ATL2TExas Год назад
And thats when you legally and justifiable facilitate his lead shower followed by unlive-ness. He will learn a very valuable and permanent lesson on humility and what the lack of it brings.
@puppylove3781
@puppylove3781 Год назад
Probably an Ashkenazim. They are horribly violent people...
@nckhed
@nckhed Год назад
​@@ATL2TExas That would have been very well justified in that moment, too.
@phemystevens63
@phemystevens63 Год назад
His gun gave him the confidence to crawl on the fast lane. King of the road.
@bezenhappync
@bezenhappync Год назад
I've been saying that people who cruise in the left lane are the worst people for decades and this guy just proved me right.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 Год назад
My mother always did this. Finally I asked her why. "It's the thru lane," she told me. Maybe that was true when expressways were first built and a lot less traffic. We discussed it, she never did it again.
@TradBarbie
@TradBarbie Год назад
It's true!! My mom did it all the way home from Cedar Point once and she's stabbed me. She was doing it *to* enrage people. She was doing the exact speed limit and I was trying to get her to realize she was wrong, but she kept saying "I'm doing the speed limit".
@la6136
@la6136 Год назад
How about you just have a little patience or pass them? It’s really not that serious. People act like every place they are going is an emergency when 99% of the time it will not kill you to wait a few minutes.
@bestman7776
@bestman7776 Год назад
@@la6136how about you follow the law and keep right pass left. It’s LITERALLY the FOking LAW
@TradBarbie
@TradBarbie Год назад
@@la6136 Are they breaking the law?? Are they in the *passing* lane??? I LITERALLY don't have time for them. Also *XXXX* because they're actual ps×ch×p×ths trying to control others because their lives are worthless.
@cashonlyj3469
@cashonlyj3469 Год назад
“Aggravated assault” Can someone explain to me how this isn’t attempted murder ?
@georgiacarry4748
@georgiacarry4748 Год назад
Aggravated Assault IS attempted murder in Georgia. From the statute O.C.G.A. 16-5-21 Aggravated Assault A person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults: With intent to murder, to rape, or to rob; With a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; With any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in strangulation; or A person or persons without legal justification by discharging a firearm from within a motor vehicle toward a person or persons.
@cashonlyj3469
@cashonlyj3469 Год назад
He's lucky it wasn't me. He would have been in a body bag. Here honey take the wheel for a second. I'm pretty good shot.
@quickoctane2612
@quickoctane2612 Год назад
@SteelerzReignSupreme II You really believe that lol. Delusional much!!!
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 Год назад
​@SteelerzReignSupremeII who was black? were we watching the same video? the shooter was a white guy. what do you mean "if he was yt" do you mean youtube? a single person cannot be youtube. and "under the jail" means they're burying him under the jail floor? what a crazy statement.. not one of your sentences made sense.
@spoonnwithsunshinehomestead
Glad they were able to catch him! Get him off the streets!
@constanttraveler
@constanttraveler Год назад
I'm so glad that he corrected himself when he called the man a gentleman.
@joebsniffs
@joebsniffs Год назад
What happens when a kid who's never been punched in the face gets a gun
@Don-md6wn
@Don-md6wn Год назад
How dumb do you have to be to think somebody who has been punched in the face is less likely to get revenge with a gun?
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
Tell us...
@chronicxdzed2693
@chronicxdzed2693 Год назад
Projecting 🤓🤡
@buckhaa1502
@buckhaa1502 Год назад
I constantly tell my kids to just don't honk their horn at other driver...too many crazy people out there...this is one example...
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
you have too honk so when they look you can flip them off.
@sethmarchese397
@sethmarchese397 Год назад
If you live your life in a way that modifies your behavior to that degree from fear... that just breeds weakness. Hopefully you only have all girls.
@northerneuropean5112
@northerneuropean5112 Год назад
@@sethmarchese397 Has nothing to do with gender. 😏 If more people would be less cowardly, and honk and scream when needed...
@rzt430
@rzt430 Год назад
@@sethmarchese397 well you won't be breeding anything because this dude will live a longer life than you
@eddieraffs5909
@eddieraffs5909 Год назад
Observing how people drive you can see the individual's real "personality". That should illustrate how many people are angry, in a hurry and see others as mere obstacles.
@markberryhill2715
@markberryhill2715 Год назад
Some people,and I have ridden,or rode,whichever you prefer,with more than a few of them really do get off on trying to annoy other drivers by purposely getting in their way,blocking lanes and slowing down. I've had it done to me and have witnessed drivers do it to others. Some folks are just buttholes everywhere they go - even when they're driving. 🚗
@dblockbass
@dblockbass Год назад
100%. How people drive or operate any vehicle/machinery is an extension of their conduct/behavior outside of that vehicle. I just let them go. Reality catches up to them eventually. And then I can enjoy the rest of my day
@peterdarlington4117
@peterdarlington4117 Год назад
There is a flip side to that someone who gets in the fast lane and is going the same speed as the other lane and doesn’t move out of the way to let everyone else by is inconsiderate and has no intention of trying to share the road with the rest of society! While it isn’t ok to shoot them their inconsiderate selfish attitude can be infuriating! If you want to drive slow good for you drive slow that’s what the left lane is for but don’t take over the fast or passing lane and hold it hostage! That’s a real Dave and Karen move.
@markroyo4013
@markroyo4013 Год назад
Have you ever been to New York? The people out there act like barbarians
@jessepitt
@jessepitt Год назад
@@peterdarlington4117 I feel the same way. I am, in general, a very considerate driver, however as such I really notice when others drive rudely. I am a considerate driver but also not a slow driver, so get out of the fast lane if you’re not going fast. It is not your responsibility to speed police the fast lane and doing the speed limit in the fast lane is also unacceptable if you’re not passing someone. Just get over. It’s rude and inconsiderate to block other people’s flow.
@chrisyonts9652
@chrisyonts9652 Год назад
Simply "stupidity"? Simply having a criminal mindset.
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt Год назад
American mindset
@isaiahgoodley6188
@isaiahgoodley6188 Год назад
How the actual hell is this not attempted murder? This is the third road rage shooting that has resulted in aggravated assault.
@askew9976
@askew9976 Год назад
Aww poor Josh. I hope he can recover from the horn…
@brimmjob8122
@brimmjob8122 Год назад
Ohh he found out haha
@jpizel1070
@jpizel1070 Год назад
😆 🤣 😂
@tyrannywatch974
@tyrannywatch974 Год назад
Tyrone will help him recover at the prison.
@jfrog1979
@jfrog1979 Год назад
@@tyrannywatch974 before👉🔅after👉🔆
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
I hope they have counciling in prison for being honked at.
@Steve.Cutler
@Steve.Cutler Год назад
Who opens fire on someone who honked at them??? This is the world now, someone pull out in front of you causing you to brake hard to avoid hitting them, honk your horn and they flip YOU off like you did something wrong..no responsability for anyones own actions anymore..
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
LOL GA - I always flip em off, and return the honk - Its the sense of entitlement, this is my lane and the thousands of other people shouldnt bother me as I drive slowly looking at some stuff on my phone.
@petterderter6354
@petterderter6354 Год назад
alot of drivers that dont know the rules of the road and should not be driving or texting they should make the driving test require a perfect score and have to retake the written every 5 years or just make ais drive cause humans cant fucntion 90 percent of road rages are caused my drivers not following the laws and rules of the road and careless drivin
@MrKelMills
@MrKelMills Год назад
It's exactly the reason why people are fighting against each other. Both fingers pointing at each other equals conflict. Nobody wants to take the blame and it's why these conflicts escalate.
@lastfirst5863
@lastfirst5863 Год назад
The horn is meant to get your attention for whatever reason. It’s not an insult, if you’re offended by a honk then you’re imagining an insult.
@so.many.obstacles
@so.many.obstacles Год назад
It truly is stupidity.
@Avenue77
@Avenue77 Год назад
Driving in the fast lane going slow...holding up 11 cars I bet
@billytheadult6247
@billytheadult6247 Год назад
Evidently, the roadway he was driving on belongs to his daddy.
@Avenue77
@Avenue77 Год назад
In certain states it's a law you'll get a ticket...but most state troopers don't be on the highway in the AM...But it's camera's on the highway but use for preventing or investigate traffic violations
@Junior-rt6xr
@Junior-rt6xr Год назад
i ride in the any lane and get honked at ever think people just feel their time is more important than the need of others?
@fasthighwaydriver59732
@fasthighwaydriver59732 Год назад
​@@Junior-rt6xr you cant ride in a passing lane if your not passing cars at speeds of 100mph then its mandatory to move over
@Wisdom24-7
@Wisdom24-7 Год назад
I can't be mad at him I pull my gun out every time someone blow there horn at me. I haven't shot nobody yet
@jadepaulsen8456
@jadepaulsen8456 Год назад
First sentence " someone following too close or something " stellar reporting.
@crockagaterx5996
@crockagaterx5996 Год назад
And this is why you don't screw with people on the road and drive aggressively. You never know how far someone is stretched before they snap. We have more people, more angry, (and some are just more stupid) and on the road driving assault weapons that weigh thousands of pounds, than ever before. Watch your 6 and stay safe people.
@truthspeaker4904
@truthspeaker4904 Год назад
These prosecutors are horrible..all these weak prosecutors need to go..that was attempted murder charge..
@The-Contractor
@The-Contractor Год назад
Someone pulls a gun on me, I'm immediately in fear for my life and doing whatever is necessary to stop the threat.
@AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables
@AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables Год назад
He ain't no gentleman Sir, words matter.
@Milesco
@Milesco Год назад
I noticed that, too.
@party4keeps28
@party4keeps28 Год назад
Some people lose their minds while behind the wheel, even over the smallest, most insignificant incidents. "Honk your horn at MEEEE!?!?"
@jjbud3124
@jjbud3124 Год назад
I got pretty mad once when some jerk blew his horn at me for stopping to check traffic at a red light to make a right turn. He wanted me to blow right through it I guess. It was a momentary stop, just long enough to make sure no one was coming from the left. People are crazy. That was a few years ago, I gave him the one finger salute. Thankfully that was before everyone was carrying a gun. I wouldn't do it now.
@SquatCobbler-Cry
@SquatCobbler-Cry Год назад
This dude should be locked up for years then get a lifetime driving ban.
@allimkhan7540
@allimkhan7540 Год назад
This is absolutely insane it's almost unbelievable what was that guy thinking
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus Год назад
Unbelievable? What world do you live in? Stuff like this is every day.
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Год назад
I know - driving slow in the fast lane what an A hole!
@DRAGNET-pn5vf
@DRAGNET-pn5vf Год назад
IT'S LIKE A MAD MAX MOVIE HAPPENING ON OUR ROADS AND HIGHWAYS. DRIVERS TALKING OR TEXTING WHILE DRIVING ISN'T HELPING THE MATTER EITHER. BE SAFE EVERYONE.🇺🇸✌️
@ikigai47
@ikigai47 Год назад
agg assault??? That's ATTEMPTED MURDER!!
@RudyRude-wp8ep
@RudyRude-wp8ep Год назад
Idiots like this give responsible gun owners a bad name.
@drexlspivey3047
@drexlspivey3047 Год назад
Responsible gun owners. Oxymoron. Everyone knows crazy people have guns all over this country, trump at least showed us all that.
@BRExteriorPro
@BRExteriorPro Год назад
Why? He wasn't supposed to have one anyway. Not our fault.
@Milesco
@Milesco Год назад
​@@BRExteriorPro But that's the problem -- he wasn't supposed to have a gun, but he somehow got one anyway. That's a serious problem, not just for the obvious reason, but also because it gives 2nd amendment opponents an argument for banning _all_ guns.
@BboyVReck
@BboyVReck Год назад
so true, he's willing to kill someone, that alone he can do it with a knife or ran people over with his shitty car.
@j.a.3138
@j.a.3138 Год назад
@@Milesco Even banning all guns, criminals will always find a way to get guns. There are 400m guns in this country.
@mghezzi
@mghezzi Год назад
There’s a special place in hell for idiots who drive in the fast lane unless they’re passing another vehicle. And if there’s another driver behind you, merge over to your right.
@jjbud3124
@jjbud3124 Год назад
You must drive on roads with no traffic. Trying to put 3 lane traffic into 2 lanes just doesn't work. There's no need for anyone to drive OVER the speed limit in the fast lane, because, you know - speed limit.
@XsaviXander
@XsaviXander Год назад
You shouldn't be on the road if you think the left lane is the fast lane and not the passing lane.
@jjbud3124
@jjbud3124 Год назад
@@XsaviXander In our state, the law says the right lane is for slower traffic. The only thing it says about passing is to pass on the left. Anyway, I never drive in the left lane, but I do take it well before I'm going to make a left turn if the traffic is heavy, so I won't be cutting someone off or not be able to make the turn. It is not only for passing. It is also for planning ahead so you don't have to do any last minute maneuvers in traffic.
@licentiaplaythrough7663
@licentiaplaythrough7663 Год назад
if a person shoots at a police officer its seen as attempted murder... if a person shoots at another person its seen as aggravated assault!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are bullets less deadly if you dont wear a badge????
@onceagain6184
@onceagain6184 Год назад
Unfortunately, cops are treated as "better " than non law enforcement.
@ingamingpc1634
@ingamingpc1634 Год назад
Well because their public servants public servants technically are better than civilians because they serve the public although honestly I feel that if they want to do that kind of double standard then it should just be that it should be recognized across the board as deadly assault or aggravated assault and it should carry the same amount of years as attempted murder and should both be considered a felony
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions Год назад
In America, cops are above the law and are expected to be revered and worshipped. If you don't kiss their asses as quickly as they expect, they will escalate to try to create some violence.
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions Год назад
@%*!# YourFeelings - Did you even READ the comment you were triggered by?
@originalkingalpha5116
@originalkingalpha5116 Год назад
📌Also not once was the word "ALLEGEDLY" used within this video's entirety. Not ONCE! 🍿😂
@shsaint
@shsaint Год назад
Going slow in the fast lane was the biggest crime.
@HemiLyfestyle
@HemiLyfestyle Год назад
This should be a sign to everyone, DONT GO HONKING YOUR HORN AT PEOPLE THINKING YOU CANT GET HURT INSIDE YOUR CAR
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
Horn are not a signal to shoot other people. If you think so, stay off the roads.
@HemiLyfestyle
@HemiLyfestyle Год назад
@@justtubing767 no but this is common sense, people are going through things in life. Stop and think before you go pissing people off believing you can get away with being a child because you're inside your car
@davidgraham9341
@davidgraham9341 Год назад
Basically, assume that everybody is armed. If more people carried guns in their car there would be less horn honking. Problem solved.
@HemiLyfestyle
@HemiLyfestyle Год назад
@@davidgraham9341 bingo
@Brookawooka
@Brookawooka Год назад
He’s a threat to society. If he can’t cope in society like the rest of us he should be locked up until he can.
@dinahcolbert9103
@dinahcolbert9103 Год назад
Exactly
@finessefine
@finessefine 11 месяцев назад
👏🏾💯Facts!!
@pdg61met
@pdg61met Год назад
Just yesterday I was behind a driver going slower than everyone as they were traveling in the left lane . they refuse to move over. These individuals don't surprise me if they produce a gun as they are clearly mentally unstable for insisting on breaking the traffic law.
@martyjoseph9507
@martyjoseph9507 Год назад
The real unanswered question is were they going the speed limit. If they were then I have no problem with them, can't fault somebody for being relatively safe
@pdg61met
@pdg61met Год назад
@@martyjoseph9507 speed limit 70 they were going 55
@BboyVReck
@BboyVReck Год назад
its also crappy if there's slow driver in the left lane, nobody on the right lane wouldn't overtake the left car so people can start overtaking from the right. I had to do that when I notice there was a driver on my left blind spot.I don't like people stay on my blind spot, that's dangerous if I need to do emergency maneuver.
@kamman1374
@kamman1374 Год назад
​@@martyjoseph9507 doesn't matter about the speed. It's for passing. If someone needs to go faster, u let them.
@martyjoseph9507
@martyjoseph9507 Год назад
@@kamman1374 why do they NEED to go faster than the speed limit? Did you mean to say WANT to be selfish?
@davida6146
@davida6146 Год назад
The fact that he already had a restraining order and a gun when he shouldn't have, just shows this off duty police actually might have stopped a potential future crime.
@k9policexj
@k9policexj Год назад
Has an active restraining order, has a firearm, gets mad someone honking at him, and ultimately shoots the other driver... He needs to be in jail for a long time.
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus Год назад
You probably just described about 30 million people or more and if you want to put them all in prison for a long time then you're going to have to pay a lot more taxes to build more prisons and hire more guards.
@Empower358
@Empower358 Год назад
@@CryptonymicusSomeone finally realizes how impractical the process is
@loc9956
@loc9956 Год назад
⁠@@Cryptonymicus Well yes the US has already the largest prison population and conservatives intolerance more and more laws that will punish criminals like this for decades behind bars it will only get worse
@EternalVids
@EternalVids Год назад
Should be an automatic death penalty.
@elhoward7440
@elhoward7440 Год назад
Should be automatic permanent loss of driving privilege, at least.
@West_Coast
@West_Coast Год назад
They should charge him for attempted murder and for kidnapping by not letting him pass.
@maxbang1813
@maxbang1813 Год назад
I didn't pull my firearm on the kid that T-boned me yesterday, even though three witnesses and intersection cameras saw him run a solid red light ( while texting). Im lucky to be alive. The 22 year old who hit me is facing some serious charges. Hope he learns his lesson.
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 Год назад
ALWAYS watch other cars approaching an intersection. if they show no sign of stopping you better be ready to stop yourself. NEVER assume the other drivers are going to do the right thing. its the only way to keep yourself and other occupants safe.
@davidgraham9341
@davidgraham9341 Год назад
If’n you’da shot him then for sure he wouldn’t be a repeat offender. He’s getting off too easy. My guess, is a small fine and points on his license.
@TheOwlGuy777
@TheOwlGuy777 Год назад
He was probably only going 90+. Way too slow for the left lane of 400.
@thomasbonse
@thomasbonse Год назад
🤣 So true
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
He's gonna be really late now.
@muratyolcu4793
@muratyolcu4793 Год назад
Imagine ruining your own life all because you were holding up a passing lane
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Год назад
When Twitter fingers turn into trigger fingers!
@Islandgirl2133
@Islandgirl2133 Год назад
Too many bully, impatient tailgaters out there. Bound to happen.
@edwardprice140
@edwardprice140 Год назад
Maybe this time the judge will get it right.
@hawlkman
@hawlkman Год назад
Tried to shoot the man to death and gets an assault charge. The law system is so broken.
@Rightly_Divided
@Rightly_Divided Год назад
I just don't get why anyone would, knowing that they could get a prison sentence for it; would go out of their way to cause harm to someone else over such an everyday life matter of mundane practices. I mean... Wow.
@FierceZs1
@FierceZs1 Год назад
It's not about knowing, most acts like this are outbursts and on the fly. It's just your typical road rage, unfortunately some think their 2nd amendment means they can pull guns on whoever they dislike.
@Milesco
@Milesco Год назад
​@@FierceZs1 I agree. Some people are simply unable to control themselves. But hopefully this guy will have plenty of time in a prison cell to learn to manage his anger.
@LeeF945
@LeeF945 Год назад
Because these young people think it's THEIR world and they can do whatever they want!
@TheRoyalNewspaper
@TheRoyalNewspaper Год назад
​@@LeeF945 Spoken like a true Boomer.
@projectkj7643
@projectkj7643 Год назад
He thought someone DESERVED TO DIE for honking at him?!! He doesn’t deserve to live amongst humans.
@kirbywaite1586
@kirbywaite1586 Год назад
They can't control their impulses.
@carfo
@carfo Год назад
don't escalate things when driving bc you never know what kind of crazy is in the other car.
@Junior-rt6xr
@Junior-rt6xr Год назад
i carry for a reason maybe those who have rage should know the consequences for fighting someone who has no interest in fighting,to me if you throw a punch my way i will argue in court how i feared for my life that it was imminent that i not fight back but with justified lethal force with lethal
@carfo
@carfo Год назад
@@Junior-rt6xr most likely if someone punches you and you shoot them you will go to jail. they have to be constantly assaulting you, basically you have to be in fear of death or great bodily injury. one punch is not necessarily that.
@fasthighwaydriver59732
@fasthighwaydriver59732 Год назад
​@@Junior-rt6xr let me guess you are MAGA trumpster supporter
@DATo_DATonian
@DATo_DATonian Год назад
@@carfo One punch can kill a person. It happens every day.
@carfo
@carfo Год назад
@@DATo_DATonian I’m not saying it can’t. I’m saying if someone punches you and you fall to the ground and they make no attempt to follow up and you shoot them, you’re the one going to jail
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett Год назад
This represents a dangerous set of trends where people are being more annoying more often while people are also getting more violent in response to said annoying people.
@waltporter7707
@waltporter7707 Год назад
Okay this guy is under a restraining order probably has anger issues yet is only charged with assault after shooting into someone's car 5 times on a busy highway not to mention he almost killed a former officer. Seems like attempted murder at the very least. I believe that it depends on who you are as a factor on what you are charged with. He's on a restraining order and probably will be released on a BS bond or released on his own recognizance
@ryansempire3886
@ryansempire3886 Год назад
We need more heros like this making ppl get out of the fast lane....
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
I hate left lane campers. Damn, just set up a tent and bbq while you're at it.
@hobowithawaterpistol9070
@hobowithawaterpistol9070 Год назад
Well you morons are never satisfied how fast someone is going on the fast lane!
@ApocalypticSigns
@ApocalypticSigns Год назад
Sounds about right. This is why we need stricter measures. Any hothead is a squeeze away from ending anybody’s life.
@fuzz6938
@fuzz6938 Год назад
You're right... people who honk at other cars should have their license revoked!
@Hoycelolland
@Hoycelolland Год назад
When being right over powers your responsibility to do what is right. Everyone will suffer.
@user-ct8my8rv9c
@user-ct8my8rv9c Год назад
I bet he'll think twice about honking at people
@donnycrouch
@donnycrouch Год назад
shouldn't have to.. people need to start controlling their damn tempers
@Timboykee
@Timboykee Год назад
Problem is, he wasn't thinking in the first place - he just blew up and reacted. If he gets out early, he may well react this way again.
@Ti-nf4fq
@Ti-nf4fq Год назад
Driving in the passing lane. Protect the rest of us. Put him away for 30 YEARS
@larrysfarris
@larrysfarris Год назад
His mom: “Josh is a good boy… I’m sure he didn’t mean any harm. He has anger management issues but that’s not his fault.” Reporter: What about the restraining order against him? His mom: “Well, like I said, he does have anger management issues. But he will be released on bail this afternoon and he’ll have that pistol replaced in no time!” 👈🔫
@exquizit_d
@exquizit_d Год назад
Should be attempted murder, but get the hell out of the passing lane.
@jasonstearns2610
@jasonstearns2610 Год назад
Slower traffic belongs on the right, and police need to enforce this to straighten out traffic patterns.
@oooof6861
@oooof6861 Год назад
I agree. Used to be an otr truck driver. What you say is a profound problem that is the source of so many people’s rage. You get certain people that just don’t care about anyone else but themselves, and will park it in the left lane. I’ve seen over a mile of bad traffic just because of one person. Some states are worse than others, but California takes the trophy for the most irresponsible and selfish drivers in our entire nation.
@lordtark6736
@lordtark6736 Год назад
Go tell these returds in NewYork. These morons have no concept of what a fast lane is.
@sheldonshogrin6736
@sheldonshogrin6736 Год назад
@@oooof6861 Many OTR truckers do the same, drive under the speed limit and block both lanes "trying to pass each other" for miles on end. I've had to follow a-hole truckers like that for over 20 miles at 20MPH under the speed limit on I-35. You also have OTR truckers that think they have the right of way...period, because their job is on the road.
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 Год назад
In California's Bay Area, the center divider has signs at regular intervals that say "Keep Right Except To Pass". That should be done nationwide.
@oooof6861
@oooof6861 Год назад
@@sheldonshogrin6736 agreed. Lots of clowns whatever type vehicle they drive. I also have been stuck behind those slow passing trucks. As frustrating, but I understand to a degree with most of them. Company drivers in a governed truck. They try passing someone then the knucklehead on the right mindlessly speeds up trapping the truck driver there. It’s not always the truck drivers fault- could be the a-hole he’s trying to pass.
@xLeafs2012x
@xLeafs2012x Год назад
0:03 Brooo the way the news anchor described what caused the incident had me in tears 😂😂😂😂
@randmayfield5695
@randmayfield5695 Год назад
Every single time I am on the road I see dangerous careless driving mostly in the form of excessive speed, erratic non signaled lane changes, tailgating, cell phone use, just to mention a few. It's made me into a hyper defensive driver but even at that no one can eliminate the risks. Being shot at has become quite common here.
@eksbocks9438
@eksbocks9438 Год назад
I agree. A lot of rude people on the road. But somehow, driving the speed limit is the worst thing in the world.....
@randmayfield5695
@randmayfield5695 Год назад
@@eksbocks9438 Here in a city of two interstate highways they say that in 2022 92% of all driving related fatalities involved felony speeding or 10+mph over the posted speed limit. Strangely we have also had an epidemic of pedestrian related deaths. Your right driving the speed limit makes it dangerous for the other speeding drivers in the area.
@IndyandJazmin
@IndyandJazmin Год назад
The world would be a much better place without this worthless cl own. We're sending our best wishes for a speedy recovery to the injured driver, and we'll be keeping the victim/survivor in our hearts and prayers here. Get well soon, and God bless.
@ACDZ123
@ACDZ123 Год назад
Does you tube not like it when you use the word cl own anymore? I wouldn't be surprised
@BimmerWon
@BimmerWon Год назад
The shooter was in the right in this situation. It was self defense.
@LITTLE1994
@LITTLE1994 Год назад
Dude, that's ATTEMPTED MURDER...
@VictorVictor-oq6dh
@VictorVictor-oq6dh Год назад
Former officer needs to learn, a passing lane is for anyone to use. It’s not a fast lane, though I’m sure he was honking because he wanted to SPEED past everyone. Probably a former cop, and not a retired cop, because of anger issues. Five years from now, he might be on the other end of an identical story.
@deamon5959
@deamon5959 Год назад
Had to scroll way too far to read this perspective 🙌🏽
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt Год назад
For real
@FLQueerLiberal1982
@FLQueerLiberal1982 Год назад
And what...? Is he to blame? Did he start this whole thing by honking? Is he responsible for getting shot at by the moron on with the gun? Doesn't matter if he was wrong in honking at the piece of shxt, attempting to murder the man is overkill... without the LITERAL killing.
@la6136
@la6136 Год назад
Exactly people in this comment section just want any excuse to pretend like they are in fast and the furious. Most people are not going anywhere important they just want to speed because they are impatient
@benkenny3220
@benkenny3220 Год назад
Would always love to hear the other side. I'm sure the former officer did a lot more.
@alexbourg4165
@alexbourg4165 Год назад
Dude should be given 20 years for attempted murder and an additional 30 years for traveling slowly in the left lane.
@nikkil8472
@nikkil8472 Год назад
This is scary! Folks, if you're driving slow, please stay out of the fast lanes!
@jjbud3124
@jjbud3124 Год назад
Some people think that someone going 75 in a 65 zone should get out of the way so they can go 100. Sometimes if the traffic is a bit heavy and I know I have to make a left turn a bit ahead I drive in the "fast" lane (so I can avoid last minute lane changes in traffic), going 50 or 55 in the 45 mph and have people zoom at 65 or 75 mph. That's just not right. Some idiot in our state government wants to make driving in the fast lane illegal. Can you imagine all the last minute chaos to get into the left turn lane? Not to mention having an unused traffic lane - sure that would work.
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt Год назад
We need better government control over the speed in the highway. We need better governors in cars that will limit the speed and equalize it for everyone. We don't need lifted trucks going 100 on a 65. More government control on cars is needed.bheck we should just ban cars.
@CrowSpirit1977
@CrowSpirit1977 Год назад
He might have been fearing for his life.. He did get honked at after all.😒
@davidgraham9341
@davidgraham9341 Год назад
Self defense. A loud noise can easily trigger a reaction. More guns might lead to quieter streets when people think twice before tapping on their horns.
@kevinmach730
@kevinmach730 Год назад
In what way does the victim having been a prior police office have anything to do with this?
@krashg992
@krashg992 Год назад
It's the entitlement for me honking your horn behind somebody instead of going around them
@justtubing767
@justtubing767 Год назад
If you're driving slow enough to hear a horn on the freeway, you should take the back roads.
@krashg992
@krashg992 Год назад
@@justtubing767 you must be the Mayor of a small town ?
@davidgraham9341
@davidgraham9341 Год назад
Stop needless horn honking by requiring everyone to have a loaded gun within easy reach when operating a motor vehicle. Problem solved.
@krashg992
@krashg992 Год назад
@@davidgraham9341 let's require all drivers to drink alcohol while driving too
@davidgraham9341
@davidgraham9341 Год назад
@@krashg992 It’s a known fact that alcohol slows reaction time so maybe they wouldn’t be able to get off too many shots before the horn honkers get out of the way, so this also could make the roads safer. I think you may be on to something.
@yournotmymaster8492
@yournotmymaster8492 Год назад
Such peaceful people
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