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Driving 600 km off-road from Andorra into Spain - Land Rover Defender 130 

Ben en Lizet
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We are Ben, Lizet and Buddy. Now living two months full-time in our Defender 130 called Turtle, with an Alu-Cab Khaya Camper. We are new at off-road driving, so this is a learning experience for us! Come along on our week long trip in the Pyrenees, driving from the border of Andorra into Spain.
If you want to drive the same route we did, you can find the roadbook on www.4x4discoverytravel.com. (4x4 only ;) )

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@BenzinioB
@BenzinioB 10 месяцев назад
Nice to watch, but in my opinion the truck is a bit overloaded, especially on back, looks heavy and wobbly. I can bet there are lot of stuff you don't really need (like the bike 10+ kg of weight very high at the very end).
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
thanks for looking. It is indeed very heavy, but we live in it full time. We also have a bicycle at home because we come from the Netherlands. We do the off-roading because we enjoy it every now and then
@BenzinioB
@BenzinioB 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet Of course it is entirely your own business how you going to equip the vehicle, but weight is the worst enemy of any 4WD, you sill have no experience and take the easy tracks, ones on a challenging track just a few kilograms less could be the difference between fully stuck and safely cross. Weight is bad for the engine, fuel consumption, suspension and so on. Just try to get rid from some of the stuff and replace some with a multifunction gadgets or simply better lighter items. In the case of the bicycle, well one bike for two looks like excessive weight to me. Cant ride and enjoy it together, then it could be additional mean of transport but there are some other lighter options for such purpose, skateboard or electric scooter - you can store it on the back seat and that changes the weight distribution further front between the axles. Any way, keep offroading time will give you the best lessons. All the best!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
We appreciate your advise and know the car probably isn't optimal for offroading. Who knows, in time we might lose some weight. Or get stuck. At least that makes for a nice video 😅 all the best to you as well, hope you keep watching to see our progress.
@viagra4x4
@viagra4x4 10 месяцев назад
get yourself a nice detroit locker for the rear diff. makes off roading more comfy. treat the 130 for x mass.mooie presentatie by the way
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thanks voor de tip :) We hebben inderdaad nagedacht over lockers voor het diff, maar wilden eerst ervaren hoe het is zonder aanpassingen.
@999mrkhaled
@999mrkhaled 5 месяцев назад
€160 for the book 😮😮😮
@charliesmith1112
@charliesmith1112 7 месяцев назад
Hello I've just watched your video of your trip it looks amazing I'm on about doing a trip across there with friends could you tell me where to find the maps for the same trails your driving on thanks in advance
@anthonybaiocchi3028
@anthonybaiocchi3028 10 месяцев назад
You are both very brave going out there on your own, without a Land Cruiser recover vehicle.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
😂😂
@rjbfreelander2
@rjbfreelander2 10 дней назад
Great video, beautiful places, woof box and defender. Just remember if you are unsure of any track, it's fine to walk it first. Keep your Defender 130 approach, break over and departure angles in mind. Lowest ground clearance on these will be the diff pumpkins in most cases but lower arms and steering arms can sometimes catch.
@thedefenderfamily
@thedefenderfamily 13 дней назад
Great adventure, glad you like our adopted country! Nice Defender BTW
@wittesocrates
@wittesocrates 6 месяцев назад
Kwam jullie auto tegen in Javea. Supertof om te zien wat jullie er van gemaakt hebben 👍Leuk om te zien wat voor avonturen jullie beleven. Zijn zelf aan t rondreizen door Spanje voor 6 maanden maar de manier waarop jullie het doen blijft een droom….echt heel tof!!
@Brayco864
@Brayco864 10 месяцев назад
I’d hazard a quess this vehicle is back end heavy ( also quite heavy overall ). You may find it easier with less weight and more balanced front to back …. I’m surprised only slight mud slowed you significantly
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it is heavy! As we said in the video, we live in the car fulltime, the Alu-cab is heavy itself. Even though we could detach it from the car, off road driving is not our priority, so probably not the most optimal setup - we do it for fun during our world travels. Thank you for your advice, hope you will keep watching our videos 😊
@niki3151
@niki3151 4 месяца назад
You do realize 99,9% of your offroading is literally on a road? Have fun and enjoy. Try not to make a science or fall for all this overlanding jargon ... just enjoy the places you visit!
@igorversec1016
@igorversec1016 10 месяцев назад
Love the video! Just to much for me watch overloaded top heavy defender. Please make him a favor and get rid off the you don't need!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! We know it's heavy, but we live in it fulltime. Kinda need all the stuff we have with us 😬 Not ideal for the off-road circumstances, we'll make it work 😊 the car is a strong Turtle!
@thelittleredbus
@thelittleredbus 3 месяца назад
Hi guys. Just found your video. Where do you find the routes for off roading - the road books. We have a VW Syncro and really want to do these off road trails - we’ve driven off road in the UK a lot.
@4x4adventure_pl
@4x4adventure_pl 10 месяцев назад
Offroading euphoria: where every twist and turn becomes an exhilarating adventure tale.
@SantiagoW2M
@SantiagoW2M Месяц назад
Hi guys! Could you share with us the Points/route that you made? thanks!
@salvadorg4127
@salvadorg4127 10 месяцев назад
Hi guys, for first time off-road you did it very well. Good luck!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! Practice makes it better, so we will keep driving off-road 😄
@99Herrie
@99Herrie 10 месяцев назад
Hallo, in your video I missed the whole camping experience part of the trip a bit...
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hello, thank you for the feedback. In this video we wanted to focus on the route and driving itself. We have planned to make a video about camping in the wild soon. 😊
@井坂十蔵-h6l
@井坂十蔵-h6l 10 месяцев назад
正に冒険ですね。 素晴らしい動画です。 オオカミには、気を付けてください。
@NicHeek
@NicHeek 10 месяцев назад
Ben pas op de helft, nu al geweldig. Batterij is bijna leeg 🥴
@MarjanKuivenhoven
@MarjanKuivenhoven 10 месяцев назад
Great film!! With real cliffhangers😅
@offroadtravels
@offroadtravels 10 месяцев назад
Nice off road route, good video!!!
@bertju100
@bertju100 10 месяцев назад
Groot devender voor trip succes be save
@grahamatsea3575
@grahamatsea3575 10 месяцев назад
This is the first video of yours I've watched and I really enjoyed it. Thanks for taking us along with some great scenery.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
You're welcome! We're glad you like it 😊
@TheKmpec
@TheKmpec 10 месяцев назад
You might want to engage your lockers if you get stuck (on that muddy ditch where you used your maxtraxx)
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! We really wanted to try out the maxxtraxx there, haha! Diff lockers would have worked too
@davidatkinson2416
@davidatkinson2416 10 месяцев назад
Well done and nice route. Did you get to enjoy any biking?
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, we really enjoyed it! Ben has biked in Corsica, but not in the Pyrenees. The weather got quite cold, so we decided to travel a bit more to the middle of Spain. We did see some bikers on the tracks we were driving though, they were very muddy 😅
@rickfranke4886
@rickfranke4886 10 месяцев назад
Ziet eruit als een mooie route ook goed te doen met kleine Offroad trailer of niet?
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hoi, we denken van wel als het een echte offroad trailer is en je auto een niet te grote draaicirkel heeft. Voor de zekerheid kan je het navragen bij maker van het roadbook, die geeft goede adviezen!
@pieterpowermetal
@pieterpowermetal 10 месяцев назад
wat genieten toch elke keer weer. ! Hahah Lizet is wel een beetje schijterd hoor xd!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hahaha, I know. Ik heb echt mega hoogtevrees 🤣 face your fears zeggen ze altijd, ben ik mee bezig 😋
@zirlianamatthew4598
@zirlianamatthew4598 10 месяцев назад
Amazing ❤🎉for me
@zakclassics44
@zakclassics44 10 месяцев назад
Really like your vids and your adventure I have a 130 camper I would say the same weight equally shared your seems very rear heavy The tracks and area I have been doing every year for 5 years different times of year Your vehicle is capable of much more I am very surprised you got stuck in those conditions I assume you were using low range diff lock ?
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hi, thank you! It is rear heavy yeah, the Alu-cab makes it so. We did use the low gearing diff lock. It was the first time offroad for us, so we have a lot to learn! Maybe next time we won't have troubles in such conditions 🙂
@zakclassics44
@zakclassics44 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet this is the adventure we seek and the defender will take you to so many amazing places Please keep the vids coming I installed ARB Diff Locks it made a huge difference Hope one day we get to share a coffee over camp fire
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Having a coffee over a campfire together would be cool. Who knows we'll meet someday
@paulmanners1364
@paulmanners1364 10 месяцев назад
Err andorra is next to spain the distance is 0 meters..
10 месяцев назад
Ha ha ha ha... chinese GPS??
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
you are good at topography. there are more roads that lead to rome. we opted for the detour. 😂😂
@paulmanners1364
@paulmanners1364 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet then you need to alter the title to reflect that
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
What would your title be if you had made this video? If you come up with a good title, you might change it or you might prefer to keep that title for yourself when driving and filming this route.
@paulmanners1364
@paulmanners1364 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet the best would be that the title reflects the road book
@kiluakun
@kiluakun 10 месяцев назад
first of all, the video and the adventure it self look amazing! nice job!! one question though, 23.000 meter mountain? that's more than twice Mount Everest highest peak!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Haha, oops, honest mistake 😂 must have been 2300 meters
@That_Guy_Outside
@That_Guy_Outside 10 месяцев назад
Yeah - I caught that too but it was an obvious misstatement - in a second language! Great adventure!
@jimnyontheroad
@jimnyontheroad 9 месяцев назад
Hi Can you tell me the brand of the bicycle rack on the tyre? Ciao
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
Hi! It's a brandless one, from the cheap Chinese online shop. It works, but isn't perfect.
@rogermellie8068
@rogermellie8068 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video thank you, trip of a lifetime I'm sure. I would like to take my Discovery 1 to Galicia, Asturias and the Pyrenees in 2024, would you recommend a good time of year to do your route, was this trip recent? Obviously winter will be deep snow in the mountains.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! That sounds like a very cool trip! We did the route a few weeks back, in October. It was cold at night and the tracks were muddy sometimes, however do-able. I would recommend to do it in July - October, depending on the weather. Some of the tracks are closed in winter and spring (until april/may/june depending on the track). Hope that helps
@rogermellie8068
@rogermellie8068 10 месяцев назад
@BenenLizet brilliant yes that helps a lot, thank you, safe travels 👍
@wjg496
@wjg496 10 месяцев назад
Bueno, esta claro que el clima es importante, pero, yo soy de la zona, y desde el 1 de noviembre hasta final de invierno estas carreteras estan cortadas por pistas de esquí y hielo.
@AapVanDieKaap
@AapVanDieKaap 7 месяцев назад
I love Turtle en ook Buddy :) I think you were getting stuck in the mud because you are using the brake and clutch. When you are in first low you are going very slowly and do not need to go any slower. It's also dangerous because if you lock the breaks the car will begin to slide. When losing traction you should accelerate slightly. Do not brake! Another big tip: When it's muddy, the areas next to the road often offer better traction.
@teunbuijs5085
@teunbuijs5085 10 месяцев назад
Mooie beelden ❤
@maybejoke9
@maybejoke9 9 месяцев назад
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍
@theorionnebula707
@theorionnebula707 9 месяцев назад
Great trip! What drone do you use?
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! We have the DJI Mavic 3 pro.
@roteldorel
@roteldorel 9 месяцев назад
farst time i see same from nederland ofroad
@felixdzidzo7163
@felixdzidzo7163 10 месяцев назад
Hello!!! Nice video. Can you share the route waypoints? I think it will be useful for everyone who is living there. Like me))))))
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hi, thank you! The route (and waypoints) can be found on 4x4discoverytravel.com
@MartinPape
@MartinPape 10 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for the video! I'm also travelling with my Defender (110). I see you have a bike carrier. What brand is this? I'm looking for an offroad-proof bike-carrier to be put on the spare wheel.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Hi! It's a brandless one, was very cheap (from a Chinese webshop). The bike stayed on the carrier, however one of the rubber snaps broke off. We always have it secured with an extra bike lock, which saved it from falling off. So, it works, but isn't perfect. Hope that helps 😊
@sydneyraj
@sydneyraj 10 месяцев назад
Very nice video. Welcome to Australia, you will love Victoria High Country and Snowy mountains. And we have many other off-road challenges to suit your taste.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! Who knows, maybe we will end up in Australia. First we travel through Europe, all the way to Indonesia.
@stevewaterworth8231
@stevewaterworth8231 10 месяцев назад
Is 4x4 Discovery Travel still in business? Their FB page has not been updated since 2021 😲
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it is still in business! The owner told us they used to organize 4x4 group trips and said the website is a bit outdated. However the roadbook on the app is nice and modern! When we contacted them through www.4x4discoverytravel.com they responded quite fast 😊
@markbergman2342
@markbergman2342 10 месяцев назад
2 bar is nog vrij veel toch? je BFG KO2 kun je vast ook op 1.5 zetten (achter ff in de gaten houden als je heeeeel zwaar bent) en op 18:26, ik zie alleen rechts voor slippen, wellicht je midden sper nog niet gebruikt? Die auto kan echt nog veeel meer.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
1.5 bar zou inderdaad kunnen. Maar met 2 bar was het prima. Op 18:26 inderdaad difflock gebruikt. Haha ja dat zie ik op andere filmpjes voorbij komen maar toch spannend. Het is ons huisje dus dat maakt het gevoel wel anders. Maar we gaan nog zeker andere offroad tracks rijden 💪🏽
@not2ropey
@not2ropey 10 месяцев назад
Wow, what an amazing trip! Thanks for the upload… liked and followed and looking forward to watching more of your adventures
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! More adventures are definitely incoming! At the moment we are at Picos de Europa 🗻
@mjvanputten
@mjvanputten 8 месяцев назад
Wat een leuk verslag! Van genoten!
@Coordinator61
@Coordinator61 10 месяцев назад
Stonecoal english.
@wjg496
@wjg496 10 месяцев назад
Buena Ruta y bonito viaje! Em cuanto a lo pesado o lijero del vehiculo, es poco realista, por estos caminos mismos, nosotros circulamos con tractor, remolque, camion forestal de 40mil kgms. Etc... Por eso siguen estos caminos abiertos... Que un defender es demasiado pesado... Sera opinion de algun urbanita. Saludos.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching and responding! It is nice to hear your opinion. 😃
@papl1341
@papl1341 10 месяцев назад
Welke camera hebben jullie vooraan op de wagen? Zijn leuke effecten.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Dat is de insta360 x3. Vinden wij ook we hebben de selfie stick vast gemaakt aan de bumper
@VISTATREKKER
@VISTATREKKER 9 месяцев назад
One day I’ve got to do this. What a trip. Thanks for bringing us along. Wishing you many happy trails ahead. By the way, that’s some serious rig for a starter rig. Only way to justify that expenditure is to keep traveling - Duly liked subscribed 💪💪
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! We're definitely going to keep travelling! For now the plan is to go to other parts of Spain, Portugal and Marocco. After that we'll see, Europe. The end goal is Indonesia.
@VISTATREKKER
@VISTATREKKER 9 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet wow, not just max trax, max adventure!
@pathfinder303
@pathfinder303 10 месяцев назад
The BF Goodrich tyres don't seem to be doing too well in the mud.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Haha, not sure if it's the tires or our offroad skills that make the mud difficult 😅
@joseaubesosierra6323
@joseaubesosierra6323 10 месяцев назад
Un vídeo precioso. Yo también tengo un defender y vivo en Barcelona. Me encantaría conseguir esta ruta para hacerla. Al final del vídeo veo que decís cómo conseguirla. Intentaré contactar con Marc. Gracias.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Mira que lindos mensajes son y que lindo que tú también tengas un defensor. Definitivamente me comunicaré con Mark, un hombre muy amable.
@stevestott1514
@stevestott1514 10 месяцев назад
Great video you two enjoyed it very much thanks for sharing it with us . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A. :) :) 🐕:) 🍻😁👍🏼
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
yes we certainly did.thanks for watching our video. greetings from Spain Ben and Lizet 👋🏽🐾
@stevestott1514
@stevestott1514 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet ..😁👍🏼
@szmano
@szmano 10 месяцев назад
you can literally see how heavy is the vechicle
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it is true, as we said; we live in the car fulltime, which means weight. Hope you still enjoyed the video
@komunakomunalska1664
@komunakomunalska1664 10 месяцев назад
whats your overall weight loaded ? and which engine your driving ? great great videos btw :)
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! The overall weight loaded is 3500 kg/ 7716 lbs. We have a 2.4 stock engine.
@komunakomunalska1664
@komunakomunalska1664 10 месяцев назад
wow thats impressive, and the engine has enough power to move that weight ?@@BenenLizet
@HeliRy
@HeliRy 10 месяцев назад
That’s awesome, well done you two! I’ve always loved the 130 myself. But as an avid off-roader, that huge turning radius always kept me away from them. You made it work though 👍👍
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah, the 130 isn't loving the tight corners, but so far we've gotten through with going back and forth 😅 what kind of car do you have?
@HeliRy
@HeliRy 9 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet Currently a 2012 Disco 4 with the v8 😃
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 9 месяцев назад
@@HeliRy Niiiice!
@pannonianpraetorians6431
@pannonianpraetorians6431 10 месяцев назад
Can you send off road rute😅
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
You can find it on 4x4discoverytravel.com 😊
@ChristianBorrman
@ChristianBorrman 10 месяцев назад
nice, where did you end in?
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
thanks for watching we ended in Vielha
@ChristianBorrman
@ChristianBorrman 10 месяцев назад
@@BenenLizet ah nice, was that last archway montgarri refuge? Thought it looked like it! Lovely places
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it was Montgarri Refuge! We were amazed by all the horses walking around there
@ChristianBorrman
@ChristianBorrman 10 месяцев назад
It's stunning, I have only ben there in winter, I usually park at the car park in beret and run (yes its 2000m high) or cycle from baqueira but think this year I need to take the landy from at least part of the trip I usually do each summer from northern spain to barcelona and back @@BenenLizet
@thierryvanhoof5478
@thierryvanhoof5478 10 месяцев назад
Mooie opname trouwens.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Bedankt we zijn zelf ook erg blij met het resultaat
@Lordoftheflatbush
@Lordoftheflatbush 10 месяцев назад
Wat een mooi avontuur! Jullie Defender ziet er erg zwaar uit.
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Dankjewel! Ja, hij is zeker zwaar 😅 We zitten op max gewicht, de Khaya camper zelf is zwaar en dan nog al onze spullen erbij
@woutervanduijn4331
@woutervanduijn4331 10 месяцев назад
a dirt road is still a road.. 🤨
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
you are absolutely right, thank you for your answer and watching our video, I hope you liked it 👍🏽
@That_Guy_Outside
@That_Guy_Outside 10 месяцев назад
Keep going! Getting out into remote areas and exploring is what I find rewarding. Trchnically difficult trails are fun too, but that’s not everything!
@That_Guy_Outside
@That_Guy_Outside 10 месяцев назад
And those slippery muddy roads with a heavily loaded defender are nothing like a regular paved road!
@BenenLizet
@BenenLizet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, we will! Exploring the world is our main goal, so we're doing a combination of on and off road, cities and remote places, a mix of everything!
@itsruf1
@itsruf1 9 месяцев назад
A groomed trail is still a trail. ref: most all Grand Canyon trails are "groomed" and very safe. This looked easy enough for my girlfriend's Ford Escape. (providing I was driving but she looks a little like Ann Margaret c. 80's Ann.) That said this video shouldn't impress.
@thierryvanhoof5478
@thierryvanhoof5478 10 месяцев назад
Beste mensen in deze video kon ik goed waarnemen dat de nagels van jullie witte herder moeten geknipt worden. Mfg Thierry
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