Driving A Rover SD1 With A Plane Engine  

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+No Name 8 gallons per mile, I reckon. Hardly a bargain.

+Ownage Productions if it was 8mpg with 27L that wouldnt be too bad since my 3L IS gets 16mpg

Also it's about a $500 oil change, even just using really cheep oil

+Vince R. That's 8 gallons per mile, not 8 miles per gallon.

+Ownage Productions Have you saw LPG switch? It's sunning on LPG.

+Ethanmeister savage

+Ethanmeister Hilarious! XD british humor at its best!

+Juliusz Baczynski I'm actual American but I'm a Top Gear junkie so you could say I've adopted some British humor lol

Ethanmeister Haha cool man, I died laughing when I saw your comment and then watched the clip again XD. Pure gold!

hahaha!!!

+vtrmcs Ha.

+vtrmcs hahaha

+vtrmcs Charlie might be finished by the time it reaches 200mph. It needs alot of work to make it go 200mph. It needs supercharging and a few more mods to make it go faster.

Cire esseh I do he needs a very long runway and more power.

😂

Now I need to se a VW with an DB-605 engine in it

@@RogueBeatsARG A Mk3 passat with an engine from a Tiger :))

Shame it's LHD...

Rover V12. Meteor was mostly built by Rover.

all they need is to add a kettle n cups in the back 😂

Lister of Smeg do you know if he is still trying to crack 200..??

Oh listy

He must've probably been just as lucky with you as a neighbour, appreciating instead of loathing that sound

You're a great neighbour, I feel proud to be in the same country as you guys!

Many of men would give one of there balls for that opertunaty

The motor is a rols royce I believe..

Rolls royce meteor engine. its from a centurion tank. shares a common block and a few other bits and bobs as a spitfire Merlin engine.

Don't forget it's a Leyland gearbox

I followed the build of this he even modified a forklift into a lift with a hinged roof on his garage Charlie's abit of a legend

I thought the V12 RR Engine for Tank use was a Meteor ? ...not a Merlin.

thats the thing with a reduction gear before the gearbox (if this 1 is pre box), 1500 lb ft at 3 k rpm becomes 500 lb ft and 9k rpm. plenty of transmissions can deal with that

Plenty of transimissions can deal with that, but can the Rover's stock transmission do it aswell?

iv no idea what gearbox he uses

Maybe read the original comment then?

i took that to mean a normal car gearbox which have similer ratios

You didn't spot the two drop tanks where the back seats usually are then

the block was aluminium not cast iron later ones had roller rockers

How I understand it is that a Merlin can only fly for a certain number of hours, after that as far as aircraft go, it's scrap. But then there is nothing to stop the engine being used on the ground. The petrol for land vehicles was very low grade so detune it by removing the superchargers and swap some parts from aluminium for steel. Set the engine to run backwards (compared to the aero duty) and you have a tank engine. A carburetor Meteor has around 600hp. There is a version fitted with petrol injection that was rated at about 812hp

@@g8ymw engines were readily available in sweden as the army used them int the 80s and there are a lot in cars and heavily modded for tractor pulling twin ohc conversions and superchargers coax a few more hp out them , the boosted induction helps get round the bad inlet port shape ,the heads are 4 valve with sodium filled exhaust valves with 2 spark plugs standard , at the time when cars were still mostly sidevalve engines ,other notable engines were the ricardo triumph 1920 and most of the rudge motorbikes up to late 30s , the only cast iron bit on the meteor was the timing case /starter clutch housing and exhaust manifolds

Brilliant very clever build mate 👍

@EmceeDoctorB He said tank so I assume its without the SC. IIRC, running it with the full fat SC at full boost would require octane ratings well above 100.

@@keithw4920 Would LPG be good?

@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 depends on the particular SC and SC gearing used but i think LPG and LNG are about 130 RON. I have no idea how a Merlin would take to it though. If i recall, the most boosted of the merlins used for intercept were drinking 150 (mon or ron)

Meteors were just Merlins that failed QC for aircraft installation. An OEM supercharger would be a bolt on mod.. though you might need a Merlin carburetor. But it’s total overkill and not very practical. Unlike automotive super chargers.. aircraft superchargers are to preserve sea level horsepower, not boost it. Typically you’ll have lower compression pistons and a moderate amount of boost (between 5 and 10 inches of mercury). Aircraft superchargers are typically what is known as “ground boosted” which means they produce far more boost than is useful at SL.. but you control manifold pressure with the throttle. As you gain altitude, this boost falls off until you are eventually wide open throttle which is the engines “critical altitude”. For planes like the Spitfire, they had a two speed supercharger so before the boost fell completely off.. it would speed up to restore it. The Germans used a hydraulic CVT for theirs so they could have maximum boost at any altitude. The American Allison engine was designed for a turbocharger which with a simple wastegate could also produce maximum boost at any altitude.. but the turbocharger was so bulky that it was only installed in the P-38s and F-82s. The P-39, P-40, and early P-51s had Allisons with single speed superchargers which meant they performed poorly at high altitudes.

Buy a Merlin rather than a Meteor and it would already have a supercharger.

Forza Horizon 5: Rover SD1 And a whole vehicle upgrade titled "Merlin V12"

Put this engine in a Fiat

@@yeehaw8106 then you'd call it "fat" because a V12 in a 500 makes it fat

I wish they’d bring back the 540 Hemi from FM3. Or put in a 572 BBChevy.

They could’ve included it in the top gear story

Jon Buggins anything from BL would have better emissions than a VW.

And it'll last longer :)

my volvo T5 can go faster in less time

Yet another person who doesn’t understand fuel efficiency vs emissions. The reason why VW cheated on emissions was to improve efficiency. You aren’t going to get the deadly NOX from a rich burning low power loafing petrol engine like you do from a lean burn high temperature high compression diesel.

Please change your profile picture.

Clearly not the 4 year old SD1 disaster I had in 1985 that made motor factors very rich and impoverished me.

I had one too, it was a V8S. They were rare.

True, but the Bugatti would still demolish this car in terms of performance, and braking, and handling, and comfort

and even if he did a great job he didn't engineer his own engine he "just" shoved it in there

The Bugatti is actually a useable car though. You don't have to wear full safety gear to get it up to speed and i'd wager this think drinks fuel like you wouldn't believe

@@mrcaboosevg6089 Yeah but wait until it crosses path with a BMW or Mercedes.

@@mrcaboosevg6089 but there are thousands of Bugatti Veyrons, there's only one of these.

I care, the show is inaccurate. Don’t suppose it would have sounded quite as flash if they had said tank engine. Pretty stupid conversation anyway the standard SD1 did 125mph with a 3.5 V8. It’s not that much quicker and looks shite.

Quite appropriate to use an SD1 as the Meteor engines were built by Rover back in the day

Similar engine but not quite the same. Meteor wasn't supercharged, Merlin was in many planes. Meteor ran in the opposite direction than the Merlin. Never the less an awesome engine with shed loads of torque. John Dodds Beast was a merlin but that wasn't from a spitfire

@@coolpaul69 Seem to recall John Dodds saying that he had a tyre blow at over 200mph on a German autobahn,and added”Once I got it down to 180,I knew we were going to be alright!” He also initially tried to run the engine with the supercharger,but it blew exhaust systems wide open,so he”de tuned” it by removing the blower,and fitted a bunch of twin choke Weber carburetors instead. Saw him do an “easy” 10 second quarter mile at Santa Pod,a long time ago. Like the Rover,he had an “increase” rather than a reduction gear from the crankshaft. Think he ran 4:1,rather than the Rovers3:1,but owning a gearbox business gave him a distinct advantage when engineering his final drive.

it is

+Andrew Wilson He even says it a tank engine in the video. They really need to change the title :D

+Andrew Wilson I was just about to bitch and moan about that myself

+No Name Doesn't he also say the same engine was used in planes?

Samuel Brooks The tank engines were derived from the RR Merlin engine. The same way the 1275cc Mini engine was derived from the engine in the Moggy Minor. Not the same engine, but very similar.

+mickeybill Fair enough 👍

My Prius can hit 100 mph and still get 40 mpg 😂

+alex Gonzalez my golf will do 125 and still get 60mpg...

+alex Gonzalez thats awful.

+Terminxman jeah me too exaclty

+alex Gonzalez My 17 year old Peugeot 306 HDi cost £250 to buy and gets 55 to the gallon.

Did one of his mates have a spare key.

So why didn’t he just put a piece of wood in front of the front wheels? I do that with my tractor since it doesn’t have a handbrake and I don’t want to park it in gear, just in case one of my neighbors(I lend them my tractor once or twice a month so they can cut the trees in their gardens and drive all the branches away to the local „junkyard“) forgets to put it in neutral when starting, so they would destroy my shed, that it’s parked in front of. The starter is powerful enough to turn the wheels when it’s in gear and then the frontloader would proceed to plow through the wooden walls of my shed, which I do not like very much.

Charles Jones they were also fuel injected.

+Dwayne Perry i love how he counted out every single mph. like ok, we get it, theyre going up, can u shut up now

+guguigugu I know... I never would have guessed that 150 was followed by 151... thanks Jonny!

+Morgan Williams Ahhhh shit. 21?

I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that DICK was as IRRITATING AS FUCK!

Funniest thread ive read in a while lol

The Meteor engine is a detuned Merlin engine (down to 600bhp). It has the supercharger removed and some of the components are made of steel rather than light alloys. It would still bolt into a Spitfire.

The Meteor was used in aircraft, most of them were secondhand ex-aircraft Merlins...

wait what.. you can get this for 1000? I want one.

@paul austin Well it's the difference between 1300bhp to around 600bhp. Although the engines are very similar in their basic design, there is a reason they have two different names, they are not the same.

jester5ify it might bolt into a spitfire but it spins the wrong way

Probably closer to 3 gallons to the mile.

more like 35,000 smiles per gallon.

1gallon to the mile

I only get about 15 so eh, worth it

3 Focke's to the gallon...

Jay's Bentley was built in the UK and was up for 250k I'm glad jay bought it would have been locked away for ever in the uk

the stupid babbling from the passenger seat was apparently more important...

The fuel was called MT80 and has an octane of just 80. Terrible stuff really.

I always fancied putting that body shell over a Range Rover chassis and power train for laughs offroad!

+colj001 reduction or multiply?

+Oscar Thorpe multiply in axle rotation speed, reduction in gear diameter.

+Humongous Richard boom!

+colj001 Wait, wait. Saturn 5 rocket, channel all that power directly into a reduction box from a bus, and you rocket goes 3 times as fast!! It IS rocket surgery!!! :¬P

hahahah fuck this

Times have changed. My 2007 Saab 9-3 Aero, slightly modified, is speed limited to 260 kmh = 162 mph. I'd still like to try that Rover. I'll bet that the torque would feel great.

Martyn James now I'd like to see that . tell him to put a vid on RU-vid 👍

Any videos ?

There was a chap around my neck of the woods a decade or so ago who had a Ford Sierra Cossie engine in the back of an Estelle. That too went like a rocket. It pulled out in front of a mate who hit his brakes swearing at the car in front but it just left him standing. He was more pissed off then when he realised that he could have maintained his previous speed and the Skoda would have pulled out and STILL left him standing!

+Jay Leno Yeah, that guy shouting out the speeds, WE KNOW, it's TV, WE CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. He could have shown more of the car too, there must be loads of people who don't even know what an SD1 is, what it had as an engine originally, or how he got that 27l engine to fit in there. Basically, the presenter was an annoying twat in need of a haircut.

+Daijyobanai Damn, that's to the point.

+barthoedemaker or gear ;-)

How many gears could there be?

+paul hunter And where's the fun on that??

That's not the point though, is it?

BMW reached approx. 1000hp/l specific power in the 80s F1, based on that a 650cc engine could output the same performance.

yea, but it will never sound like a merlin engine.

Paul, no offense mate but you've clealry missed the point!!!

+Rich77UK to be fair they did actually make clear that the meteor v12 was a tank engine, its just the fact that the design is very similar to the merlin, plus the fact there was what looks like a Victor parked in the background at the beginning. The programme makers didn't thrash it to death like top gear did - just dropped a few hints to make better tv

+Rich77UK I know just what you mean Rich, nothing worse that listening to blokes who haven't got a clue about what they're on about.

+andy2382 Yeah they were filming at Bruntingthorpe which is an ex-airbase

Is half the video missing or something, cos I clearly heard him say it's a merlin engine, when does he say anything about meteors?

MarcusTDM the rolls Royce meteor was basically the unsupercharged version of the merlin

+/Dream Car Garage 1 (DCG1) Probably because the engine is heavy af!

+/Dream Car Garage 1 (DCG1) and because the engine is over 70 years old lol

+/Dream Car Garage 1 (DCG1) Is this dream car garage the show? or just some ones username

the show. Check out some of the vids on my channel.

+/Dream Car Garage 1 (DCG1) I think it massages your arse quite well. :D

+Drugs Bunny ALL OF IT.

Hahaha

+Drugs Bunny About 6 to 8 miles to the gallon, if he's lucky.

+ModshackMerlin you mean 6 to 8 gallons per mile!

+Drugs Bunny 80-100Litres on 100km?(myabe more)

80? more like 220?

@@danielspoon1234 Neither. SUPER CHARGER!

Cost. Go price a proper merlin. And, frankly ALL proper merlins should be kept for the aircraft still flying that use them.

Might be difficult to find a Merlin for £1000 though

+Jonka Olofsson Ask Jay Leno.

Leno's "Bentley" also uses a Meteor. An actual supercharged Merlin will not fit in any car, for the simple reason that the supercharger turbine is concentric to the crankshaft and so sticks down beyond the bottom of the engine by at least a foot, if not more... if you want forced induction on a Meteor/Merlin in a car, you'll have to come up with some other way of doing it.

***** Turbos :D

but mate. 1550 ft/lb or torque, would peal your eyelids over the back of the boot lid :P

Nah mph its a british program.End of

That aint that bloody hard is it, for a 10k car it is though

GymChess does it hurt? Does it?

hell yeah... metric squad

Thank you man

you mean apart from the last 3 or 4 years where the temperature has actually reached 40 degrees a few times and has happily stayed in the low to mid 30s for a few weeks at a time.

+Ri Max can somebody tell you to fuck of a not be a little bitch

Air con dries the air so excellent for keeping the windscreen free of mist. U.K. has plenty of hot days but right now it is winter and freezing. The air con defrosts the windscreen quicker than heat.

eastwood978 Omg i don't believe it somebody actually has some common sense :o

Yeah and in this years summer it was about 36 degrees in the day and 25 at night which Is hot by anyone's standards