0:00 How we got the Baldwin Motion Camaro 0:40 The Camaro on Dream Car Garage (2000) 1:30 Why this car is so unique 2:13 Specs & getting ready to drive 3:21 Driving the Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro 6:17 Drag racing the LS-7 Camaro vs. LS-6 Chevelle 7:00 Do you need a Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro?
@@ckelley63 I’m pretty sure the 69 Corvette could be ordered with it. I had a buddy that bought a crate motor LS7 and dropped it in his street/drag Camaro bone stock...ran like a raped ape. 12.5 compression but you could get 99 octane at the pumps back then. I believe it was also a solid lifter cam...whatever it was it had a wicked idle.
@@ckelley63 In the description it states that the invoice date for the car was July of 1970, so the LS7 would have been available, if you had the connections which of course Baldwin did.
Also the LS7's that Amityville Chevy supplied were Dynoed at 660hp with 12.5 slugs and the L88 cam .560 over .600. Some guys got it with the ZL1 cam. Those are big gears Joel usually liked the 4.56's Or even the special Rockwell 4.10's. You would love the story when Joel raced a Hemi Cuda with his LS7 chevelle both 70's on Sunrise Highway in the day!
@@claytammaro7060 yep. With a 4:88 or 4:56 came with A Hone overdrive. We would try to make the lever come out of the drivers side driveshaft tunnel. Many had consoles so...
Yeah, this engine clearly wasn’t built to the Motion standards back in the day. Sounds like it got a much smaller cam and possibly less compression to make it more driveable. As if any car with a 4.88 rear gear is really street driveable.
She's a GROWLER!!! That is one sweet Camaro. I am a HUUUUUGE fan of Baldwin Motion. Absolutely some of the best-built performance machines still to this day.
Jesus om old lmao ... I remember it getting restored 20 yrs ago , helped peaked my interest in 69 camaros , sending me onto a mission which ended in me at 18 buying a 70 ss396 chevelle . Thanks for the memories LMC.
It has been over 50 years but I worked at Motion along with a good friend, Stan Noren. We, along with a few other mechanics built a large portion of their Nova's, Camaro's, and the occasional Corvette... Joel Ros0en, the owner used to take finished cars out on Sunrise Hwy. in front of the store a launch them with all the guys involved in the builds standing on the sidewalk and watching.....Great times and many old memories of all sorts of stories come back when I see a car that I helped build...think we originally built that with a Holley 3 Bbl. Carb back then!
Leave it to GM for the lack of an original code # when naming the modern day LS derivative, the LS7. Since they already had used the LS7 moniker on this power plant, you’d think 🤔, how hard could it be to come up with an original code name back in 2004. So now when you tell people there’s an LS7 under the hood, most will figure it was updated with a modern LS. There didn’t need to be any confusion.
@@ronmiller1162 you completely missed my point, i’m not talking about visually looking at the engines or the acoustic sound each powered plant gives off, I am talking about GM using the same code name for both engines when (I agree) they are completely (except cyl. count) different.
@@ronmiller1162 However, the modern day LS7 is by far the most superior, naturally aspirated V8 engine GM has made to date, as it should be, since it’s @35yrs new than the old LS7. Shame on GM for code naming each engine the same.
@@rickstout2458, exactly! Their biggest code naming gaffe was when they named the C5 Z06’s engine “LS6”, stealing the code name from, well, I’m pretty sure I don’t need to tell you what grand daddy big block.
Good afternoon, had the pleasure of watching your father and his crew of technicians restore this car. Glad to see that it is in someone's hands that will treat it like the treasure that it is. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
I had a LS7 in my 69 Malibu with 4:10's and a 4 speed and its was a wild ride to say the least. I damaged the engine a long time ago and sold the Malibu about 20 years ago. Thinking back I still enjoy the memories of that power. It was a 90 over LS7 with LS7 cam, 850 Holley Super comps. The reason it was 90 over was previous owner of the engine blew it up. I remember wrecking a few Muncies with that engine...one on Halloween 1995. Monster Mash was actually playing at the time, and my buddy says "Muncie Mash"...I will always remember that.
Tnx for posting. The collector car, "world," never ceases to amaze and baffle me. This car, one of one, that could easily be cloned; nice '69 Camaro, hi perf 454, M22, etc., is worth 7 figures as you say, vs a clone that might be built for say $300K, all because it came from Baldwin Chev in NY back in the 60's. The value is not in the actual car, but where it was put together back in the in the day. As someone once used to say: that's not news, but that too is reality...
Visited the showroom a few years ago. The highlight of my trip back home to Ontario. What I and most others consider to be he best restoration team in the world. The showroom was quit. I kept looked up at the mezzanine. I'm sure I was drooling..but did my best to not leave a mess. After about 30 minutes of standing in awe of the automotive art before me, the receptionist quietly came over and ask if I would like to go up???? Are you kidding me? But no... I know what's up there is off limits. But thank you. She's said, I see how you are with your kids, how respectful they are around he cars. Do go up and look.... carefully. I will remember that day for a lifetime. Standing in front of the Cobra. Thank you.
RIP Tom , Tom was something special and always humble and honest opinions and loved all types or muscle cars , very nice to see that your interested in these same cars and you look and sound like your dad I'm sure thats not the 1st time you heard that great stuff all the best , Thanks for the time and interests to upload these vids
My bud in 1975 had a 69 vette with an over the counter, LS-7, with 4sp, 4.11 rear & racemaster slicks, ran it on a track one time & got a 11.87 ET thru the side pipes. That thing was a beast!! Above quoted 520hp which is what the baby brother L-88 made, I have a book with a dyno from back in the day showing 580hp in stock form with nothing bud headers..
My 72 stingray convertable had an LS-7 an M-22 and 4.56! back in 78 that 2nd owner had bought it over the counter and being a hi-perf mecanic he installed everything and was the fastest car in the Ottawa Ont. area back in 78!!
I just finished watching the full video of this build then watched this one right after. It was awesome to hear Tom's favorite line near the end of this video, awesome!
God I miss that show Dream car garage the care and effort that went into those cars was nothing short of amazing even the story of starting out in that little garage. Do you need a car like this needs to be a shirt glad to see you guys still at it. Hands down the best cars and car show in Canada 🇨🇦 one day I will be up to LMC
I had a “71” camaro z28 in high school that ran high 12’s in the 1/4 mile. It was very fast for a 16 year old kid. After 5 speeding tickets, my parents made me sell it before I got to take it to the senior prom. What a bummer, but what a fun car to have as your first car. That was back in 1979-1980.
WOW what an absolute beautiful car done RIGHT AND WITH JUSTICE!! Amazing how well it runs, right off the showroom floor. No stalling or falling on it's face when pedal is mashed!!!
Yeah, that's an 11 second car, but glad they went easy on it. Love the image of it at the strip with the wide wrinkle walls and tunnel ram hood. Takes me back to the cars we built and raced in the middle 70s, cars that were thrashed to death and now worth 100 times what we paid for them.
It definitely was as Motion built the car back in 1969 but based on the idle sound and the dyno HP numbers given this engine is WAY milder than how it would have been delivered by Motion. Guessing less compression and much smaller cam.
As a 53-year-old who has owned over 50 muscle cars, bought sold and enjoyed them. I really appreciate the love for these cars and I can’t believe the Inflated price hike that probably will take it down turn. It’s evident that you come from the very wealthy family and have no worries but the one thing I can appreciate is that you take a very humble approach and a love for these cars. I seriously appreciate young men like yourself!!!!
What a keeper, short-shifting it like that it is through the gears and cruising in no time. Hope you can preserve this for many, many more years. Really happy to stumble across your channel, looked forward to the program on Speed years ago.
I grew up not far from Motion Performance & used to drive there often , dreaming of one day having my car worked on at the shop... brings back such fond memories of my youth .
Been there years ago and Loved the show never met Peter but was fortunate to meet Kieth Sims. My photo flash shocked him as he was welding with his back to me when he was under a Dodge product if I remember right. We talked for quite some time about his end of the work and must say Kieth was and still is my hero at LMC. Would have loved to have worked with Keith, his knowledge and ability was a real inspiration of what could be done back at time when his level of work was so special. Hope Keith Sims is doing well he will always be the man at LMC.
12:5-1 big port open chamber head, big rod, tuftrided crank, high nickel block and came with a notice for 4 spd only, no automatic use. I had 3 of these beasts in the crate, marked off-road use only, XCH "experimental Chevrolet" and yes, in a Camaro body you had to tie the subframes or it twisted more than a belly dancer =) The first one we fired on avgas for breakin' and the headers glowed white hot like the Chevy Power Book cover with Smoky Yunick running some NASCAR beast! Ah, those were the days...
@@davevan9150 // Yes, the original LS-7 454 from back in 1970 could only be purchased over the parts counter at a Chevy dealership (or you could buy all of the necessary components and assemble it yourself, or pay someone else to do it for you). There were never any "factory installed" LS-7 engines from a production assembly line standpoint. The newer LS-7 was a nod to the original when it came about. 😄👍👌✌🇺🇸
The all aluminum LS7 into my 2010 Camaro. With appropriate attention given to the valvetrain of course. You can put one of those in my pickup while you're at it.
My 72 vette was owned by a friend from Ottawa Camille Wana who was the second owner back in 78 and immediately bought an LS-7 an M-22 and a 4.56 rear!! it was the fastest car in the Ottawa area!!!
I rode in a 67 Chevrolet Camaro 454 it was fast plain and simple when you are in the city it does not feel comfortable the second you hit the highway its roars to life and pushes you into the seat
Hey Gary, another great video on a great car. The ‘69 Camaro is such an iconic year, never mind it’s a Baldwin Motion car. I’ve been out to your shop/showroom/museum a few times and loved all the rare cars there over the years. I keep buying lottery tickets because one day I will drop by and take home one of Peter’s Boss ‘9s.
@@legendarymotorcar Can't wait Gary. I enjoyed every one of the Legendary Motorcar episodes with you and your dad, Peter. I think the season pass is still on my DVR, LOL. Also the show where he was one of the appraisers of classic cars about to go across the auction block. I'm glad I stumbled across your RU-vid channel. Subscribed!
I own a 1971 camaro baldwin motion phase 3, it has a highly built 454 LS7, t400 trans, 12 bolt rear with 4.10. 2 1/8 primary headers, to dual 4 inch exhaust. I have owned this car since 1982, I will never part with it.
Wow! "Traction Action ", traction bars...a blast from the past. In it's vintage green with the side stripes, it looked just like mine. All that's left of it 38 years later are the door panels and the back seat. 😥
I still have some of the magazines Hot Cars and Super Street Cars from the long forgotten Engledrum Publishing that carried ads for Baldwin. There was one for a 1970 Pase 3 Camero. The advertisement said guaranteed to run 11:00 or better with an asterisk saying "With our driver and a sanctioned drag strip."
You need to, I drive by feel and listening, at 68yrs old I was lucky to drive alot of fun cars that today are called Muscle cars, back then they were just Hi -Performance cars 🚗!!! 2022
IN 1973 MY FRIEND SENT HIS BRAND NEW Z/28 TO MOTION PERFORMANCE AND THEY DROPPED A 454 IN IT THAT WAS AROUND 750hp WITH THE TUNNEL RAM AND DUEL QUADS .... CAR ALSO HAD A HONE OVERDRIVE ... WHEN HE WAS DONE IT WAS OVER 13,000.00 IN THE CAR WHICH INCLUDED THE INITIAL COST OF $4,500.00 FOR THE Z/28 ...
What kind of fuel are you running? I worked for Motion in the 70's parts man while I went to school across the Island. Amity Cheverolet (Steve) supplied the LS7's when I was there!
Holy Shit! Somebody finally mentioned a Baldwin Motion car. Everyone seems preoccupied with Yenko, Yenko, Yenko. When I was a kid Baldwin Motion ads were in all the go fast mags. Yenko cars were pretty tame compared to Motion's Phase III cars.
I've been a fan of the Baldwin motion 454 phase 3 engine I'm building my own replica of the 454 phase 3 so far I got all the parts now I just got to find the block but mine is going to create 535 horsepower wish me luck holla if you hear me
