Well, it seems strange to me. Danny used to conquer the people by love, she had patience to understand their situation, and in this case she's doing the same but by fear, and I don't understand this evil pride... It's not the Dany that I used to know.
Mateus Silva she ruled by love because the people in Essos accepted her for the most part. Here you can see they clearly don’t. They don’t like her and are afraid of her. She’s mentioned burning cities down several times throughout the show but was always talked down by her advisors and decided against it. I don’t think she really wanted to be a ruthless Queen who burned cities, she says so herself later on in the show after she decided she didn’t want to be that kind of person, but I think anyone in her situation could have easily did what she did. Girl lost her closest advisor, her next to last dragon, and best friend all very close together and in horrible ways, not to mention she’s already learned that she’s not the true heir, Jon is, and she sees the people here admiring and respecting him way more than her. I don’t think burning KL was so much a revenge target against innocent civilians( she even says that they should know who to blame when the sky falls down on them, meaning Cersei) as it was just taking everything away from Cersei and showing that mercy wasn’t her weakness. However, I’m almost positive that if any of the civilians had shown her any type of affection, she probably wouldn’t have burned the city. :/
@@Renee-zy6oy it made sense that they were afraid of her though, all they knew of Targaryens was pretty much dragon fire and ruin. And madness. Yes you can argue that they should've heard about the things that she'd done for the people elsewhere but honestly me as a person would've questioned those things too. Did you help the people bc you wanted to or because you needed bigger armies? Everyone that they've meet in positions of power have all done things that may have seen like they were for the benefit of the people, but in truth it was for their own personal benefit. Like they weren't there to see what we saw so its completely understandable why they're stand offish not just to Dany, but to any stranger. Trusting people hasn't gone well for the North lol
I know 😭 i Just hate the way he died, fucking writters, he deserved so mucho better after fighting so brave again Vicerion and the Night King. He was a Hero and a Good boy 😭 🔥🔥
Daenerys' whole character is just so fucking epic. Her aesthetic, her history, the dragons, the power - I would've watched an entire show just about her and how she conquers shit and hangs out with her dragons. It's an amazing character. A woman with 3 fucking dragons. So epic
I completely agree! Daenerys and her dragons are the reason I watched the show! I wish she spent more one on one time with them. We only really see her with Drogon. Of course she cares about Viserion and Rhaegal, but they aren't shown as much as her mommas boy! I would totally watch a show about just her and her dragons, and of course the Dothraki and Unsullied! I don't think I spelled that right lol!
Prajakta 007 Homegirl Arya should have fallen to the ground dead with her spine broken the moment the Night King grabbed her. Mf was holding her by the neck staring at her waiting for what exactly?
The last time a Targaryen Queen came with a dragon alone, she charmed the Lord of Winterfell and the Night's Watch. She helped the North and the women with it, all without the King's help. Queen Alysanne would've been proud of Daenerys.
@@braveandblessed9279 The moment Queen Alysanne arrived in the north everyone loved her, everyone aside from Alaric Stark who made her feel unwelcome and useless as a women. They did eventually amend the differences and she more than proved herself in the north. She set up alliances with young northern men with women in waiting from down south, she even tried her best to integrate the old gods and the new. Eventually she traveled to the wall where she lived with the men of the Nights watch. They were freezing and starving, of course they were criminals but they are meant to be protecting the wall. What good use are sick and starved people? She agreed to give them fertile lands of the north, but the north was one of her kingdoms. The Targaryens promised the lords that they can keep their titles but many Targaryens also used their dragons to settle land disputes. Queen Alysanne also noticed that a new fort needed to be built between snow gate and icemark as the Nightfort was falling apart, she used her own wealth and money to pay for a new fort! They renamed the Snow gate and the Queens gate as she had such a positive impact. Overall she did much more good than any negativity that came out of her trip north. All this from a women that most northern folk weren’t the happiest to listen to.
Until a +120 ship armada appears with ballistas, chopping down your flying lizards from down town, when, in theory, your lizards were the recon units.... "Good writting", ladies and gentleman.
All that’s missing is my underrated bb Viserion. I feel like they shouldn’t have killed any of the dragons off bc now drogon is alone brother-less and mother-less ;(
though saddening, i think viserion should have died to show just how powerful the night king was (despite being easily ninja'd by arya). the only one i dont agree with is how rhaegal died
In the book dragons would not go past the wall, so maybe the books will be consistent and not have Send Jon on a suicide mission resulting in Dany coming to save them. I think it would be better of he's killed by the NK in the Long Night battle. Then when he raises the dead again we get the ice dragon
Agreed. When they went beyond the wall to capture a wight just for Viserion to die for Jon to get a truce with Cersei I found that stupid because she didn't send help anyway.
They should have given the night king his own ice dragon. Have it be something to do with Bran so atleast he has something to do and then you still get dragon fights and more dragons to kill off.
Well they have the right to be nervous about a Targaryen in the North, her father had both Ned’s dad and brother killed, so....And they probably don’t know a lot about her travels or her personality.
James Ultron That’s what bothered me the most. She literally saved all of them and they still didn’t trust her for no reason. Yeah she demanded respect but how can you not respect someone like her who literally birthed dragons and has the biggest army the world has ever seen. They didn’t want to bend the knee but she was lit gonna take out the White Walkers AND Cersei for them.
At least Sansa was consistent. Her first reaction to the dragons was “I don’t want these things here” because she saw Dany as a threat to her goal to make the North an independent kingdom. All her actions thereafter was to defeat that threat. But Arya on the other hand admired Aegon’s sister wives, was in awe of the dragons when she saw them, and should have been a natural ally of Dany’s. Instead they made her turn against Dany without justification.
Arya would not have been an ally to Dany, she turned on Dany because she wanted to rule Arya's homeland. Arya supports the cause for northern independence after losing almost all her family to Southern games. Let's not forget Dany also burned down a city of millions of people, but sure 'no justification'. Some of you will excuse anything Dany does.
Sansa was stupid. She was so concerned with The North's independence yet couldn't feed and damn sure couldn't protect her own people. It was Littlefinger's influence that enabled them to take take Winterfell back. Meanwhile, Cersei who was on the Iron Throne wanted Sansa's head on a spike. I suppose the white haired chick with the dragons who has the might to actually take Cersei out, is someone to not ally with.
I still don’t understand why everybody was freaked out. They were just flying. It’s not like they were burning the whole city to the ground. I would’ve been amazed and excited to see them! 😁❤️🐉
@@Danka42 she refers to them as her children because she loves them like children, kind of like we would to our pets. Also because they’re the only children she’ll ever have.
@@doritosmith4379 if t She didn't come to Winterfell, she would have lost all her armies and her life too. Maybe in 30 years you will understand that😂😂😂
So why did Daenerys need to burn the people before castle in kings landing? She could have flown the dragon directly to castle where cercei is and burnt that first.
As much as I hated S8, this moment was cool. Dany was arriving to Winterfell, to looks of distrust and apprehension from the locals. But as soon as her children flew overhead she grew more confident in herself. She had so few people she trusted/could trust, and no family (Jon being a special case) to love, only her dragons who loved her unconditionally. She looked to her children for strength and found it. #fuckD&D
Dany is the strongest and most epic character in the series. Her story, family, habitats, and dragons. She was really the best female character in the show. Until the last episode of Season 8...
Dany and the Tyrell women were such a treat. Sansa was good before season 5/6, same with Arya before they just made her a psychopathic killer who faces no moral dilemma or consequences. Cersei was also great (as a villain and was almost sympathetic) before she was made into Queen of the Balcony by dumb and dumber. Ellaria Sand was also enjoyable before dick and douchebag completely assassinated her character. Yara was fine for the most part.
The heck are all of you so upset for? This white queen and her scary foreign-looking army and her all-powerful flying lizards are on your side and you *know* that. The dragons by themselves, since you know they're not hostile, should be the coolest things you see in your whole lives. I'm sorry, would you prefer the zombies?
Did you not even hear what Davos said about the North? “You have to earn their trust” they’re not gonna just kiss her ass right away. You said it yourself “foreign”.
@@j.vinton4039 This baffles me even more. In the final season all Dany did was sit around and bitch about how the northerners don't support her like- ... What? I don't remember her earning the loyality of the Dothraki, the second sons and the Unsullied because of her 'birthright', do you? Why on heaven's sweet earth did they not just add another epic scene of Dany actually proving herself like she's done before to earn their trust?? This fact right there makes me angrier than all of season 8 combined. She's never had anything just given to her, but out of a sudden she's super entitled??
@@j.vinton4039 This. They kinda portrayed the Northerners as being ignorant for not immediately trusting her, which did irritate me. I come from a rural English area and the people here are the same. We don't trust quickly, or without reason. Because we aren't stupid, as much as the urban centred media would like to portray us otherwise.
Daenerys is such a proud momma. I would be to if those gorgeous dragons were my children. As for Sansa, she can just buzz off with that look she gave when she watched those beautiful dragons fly over. Thanks for uploading. ❤️❤️
Christopher Tracy Just because she admired two Targaryens doesn't mean she will ally with Daenerys. Admiration and taking sides are two different things.
@@meloderieugif2294 I don't remember that even though I've read the books. It doesn't change the fact that admiring and taking a side are not the same thing.
People tell me, why would arya not side with Daenerys? She lost a dragon to save jon, she fought against the lannisters, jon even abandoned his crown because of her. If he fell in love with her, why wouldn't you fall in love with her too?
In an alternate universe, Daenerys screamed DRACAERYS infront of Sansa after knowing who told Tyrion bout Jon and Everyone agrees she got her punishment Half of the fans would be celebrating
And the other half would be denouncing the pointlessly cruel execution of a beloved, wise and benevolent daughter of Ned Stark for the crime of trying to protect her people, and rightly demand Dany's head on a spike. Fortunately Daenerys would never do something so spiteful. She only kills people when she sees them as a threat, however much they're not. Sansa would have been a threat eventually, but only for seceding. Telling Tyrion is prudent intelligence sharing.
@@geni3595 She saw them as a threat, even though they weren't. Refusing to willingly submit to her rule is treason in her mind. Telling people who Jon's parents are isn't.
The sad thing is, we get no interaction of Arya with anyone from Dany's entourage. In the books she learns different languages, befriends the common folk and is fascinated with Essos. She is observant and pragmatic, even in this series. Heck she was trained in her arts by a Bravosi and Lyseni. Her dire wolf was named for the Dornish queen from Essos, she was fascinated by the lore of dragons and Targaryens. And this season she and the north came off as more xenophobic rather than cautious. Its the moral of this series, the underdogs sticking together and rising up to be the saviours in a world that doesn't appreciate them. The wildlings, an outcast foreign queen, a little girl, an ugly female knight, a stunted dwarf, a cripple and a bastard. Looking past society's preconceptions and seeing their true value. If the North is described as being rightly cautious of Targaryens, judging Dany by her family' actions, couldn't she do the same and condemn the north for overthrowing her family, murdering children, forcing her into tortuous exile. The writing screwed up this dynamic when they had Dany claim perpetuity of Northern ancestors oaths while also asking for them not to judge her by her fathers actions. But that was initial meetings, season 8 should have moved past this and focused on Cersei as the Mad Queen and the united cause of the underdogs who were mistrusted by the realm finally saving everyone.
I agree with almost everything, except the part of "murdering children.." The North/Stark did not murder any Targaryen children nor the Baratheons, or the Arryns. Apart from Robert who murdered Rhaergar, the other houses did not killed any Targaryen. The same cannot be said about the Targaryens (Mad King) who ended Brandon, Rickard Stark (Lyanna Stark I can add too) and Elbert Arryn.
Cersei was NEVER going to be the mad Queen! Period. Cersei had ample opportunity to show her ass and madness but she didn't. This was always meant to be Dany. Now don't get me wrong. Cersei I'd fucked up but she's not that fucked up.
No. Every second that Daenerys kicks the ass of people just for defying her is a tragedy for both her and them. It would be cool if she were resurrected, educated as to why what she did was wrong, and then allowed to re-enter society as a Brotherhood Without Banners type, hanging criminals and building villages.
Arya's expression is the most admirable and accurate: while everyone is amazed or scared, Arya's expression says "here is an opportunity this changing world presents, and I know how to take advantage of this.... till it lasts". She's a survivor.
@@aswing2706 Exactly...I used to adore the Starks as they always payed back the people who helped them like honourable people do and they never went behind people's backs yet in the last season even though Dany sent her horde of dothraki straight at the frontline and rode on dragons herself while fighting risking her life...they immediately forget that like a bunch of ungrateful jerks. Then Jon rides on a dragon and everyone thinks "oh wow (no hate to Jon, I like him cuz he is honourable like Starks should be)....I mean even after all that if Sansa and Northerners didn't like her they should have said it straight to her face instead of having secret conversations....I mean look at Ned Stark...he NEVER deceived people..(he was a bit too brave but the Northerners could have been smart and honourable at the same time)....Ned Stark took a secret to his grave and wanted the rightful heir Stannis on the throne yet in S8 North only cares about the North :/ Sansa was good in S6 but in S8 I don't like her. moreover her becoming too smart doesn't make a lot of sense....it does in the books cuz there she actually stays under littlefinger's guidance unlike the show where she is sent to the boltons in s5
Idk why this scene makes me laugh so much. Probably because I saw these dragons grow up from babies and then you see a bunch of people who have never seen a dragon see two of them LOL 💀💀 and they just book it. Take off. Run for they lives
Such a shame Arya and Daenerys never had a conversation. In S2 she told Tywin how much the Targayrens and their dragons fascinated her and it’s clear in this scene she’s in awe by the might of the dragons so to not have a conversation with the mother of dragons was disappointing
Why do you all say this? I love Dany, but she isn't Visenya. Visenya is a warrior. Yes, she had a dragon, but she could also hold her own in hand to hand combat. Arya would admire someone like Brienne before Dany
Sansa... ‘Queen of the North’... what a f*#king joke, if not for Danaerys, her dragons and her army there would be no one left alive in the North. Benioff and Weiss could not have fucked this story up more than they did, what an insult to the actors, the series, all the crew and the loyal fans who loved this show!
THIS!!! I hated Sansa so much during the last two seasons, she was a sniveling, conniving little baby Cersei. She just wanted to be a queen so she could feel better than other women who actually worked for and deserved the crowns they wore. Daenerys was on the battlefield on a dragon, got left by the dragon and fought her way out with a weapon she wasn’t even trained to use. Sansa hid in the crypt and did nothing but listen to northern women and children get massacred when the dead rose. I would have rather Cersei survived and got a crown than Sansa. Sansa was never even working for anything, like Margaery and Cersei directly wanted to be queen. Daenerys wanted to take back what was usurped from her family. Jon wanted the people to have a just ruler who would fight for them, even if he didn’t want to be that leader. Arya wanted to be a great warrior. Sansa wanted...what? Not directly to be the queen, not to help or protect anyone, nothing. She had no express goal, just to be better than people who worked harder and deserved more than she did. I also hated that Arya basically lost her character and motivation in the last season, after Littlefinger died she just became Sansa’s whipped attack dog. Anything Sansa thought or wanted, she defended and accepted. Fuck D&D. Fuck season 8.
I replayed this scene a thousand times..the sound track that went along with it is just majestic(its usually d same when she's flying her dragon)...the proud mama smile on daenerys was everything..the people's reaction ..haha its just epic🤣 (like they are realising now that indeed she was d mother of dragons😂 "oh soo its true she had dragons!😲😯😳..😂😂..and the movement of the horse with D on it matches the background music too..haha
Gurl if u had just listened to Olenna to fly ur dragons to the Red Keep and burn it with Cersei in it and exempting the city, u cudve been a beloved queen of westeros as soon as 7x02.
