Drop D Tuner Devise For Guitar 

same here but about 30 years later for me lol. there’s something about waylon that just draws you in

@Dallas Jayceon Yea, have been watching on Flixzone for since december myself =)

May he rest in peace.

Awesome!

How is it? I’m about to get a Road Worn Tele with the Schaller D tuner already installed? Did you make extra holes in the Headstock? Can I return to the original tuner without leaving trace? I’d appreciate your input!

@@Tiago_007 No changes were required for my installation .. no new holes or enlargement of existing hole was required .. At least, that was my experience. I’ve used the tuner for about 3 gigs now and it works as anticipated. Quite a time saver!

@@Tiago_007 You do not have to drill extra holes to mount the tuner, but depending on the size of the original tuner hole, they may had had to drill that tuner hole out to a larger size for the schaller to fit. If so, you would have to shim the hole in order to install the original tuner back. They also make bushings that you can use to shim the larger hole.

Makes sense! Thanks guys for the tips! This is new to me but definitely curious! I guess it makes sense why the guitar is at such low price but still...I'm going to pull the trigger!

+357bullfrog Yes he does. He uses the "Keith" brand. I like the way the thumb screw feels on the Schaller, and it doesn't tend to come loose as much as the Keith. Thanks!

I want to do it too on a Tele…just started looking…but haven’t seen one that looked like this. Can you link to what you bought? Thanks!

Hey Morris. The tuners are pretty heavy, so installing 6 of them would make your guitar very neck heavy, but it could be done I suppose!

There are 2 brands that I'm aware of, Keith and Schaller. Do you own search for "locking banjo tuner" and you will find both of them. I prefer the Schaller.

Robert Mcdaniel you’re gonna have problems with any trem system that relies on all strings being tuned to pitch. If drop tuning to D makes the rest of your strings loose pitch, this won’t work.

No, it does not affect the tuning of any other strings.

Thanks. It's not the Schaller's, it's the hip shot brand that returns sharp. I solved the problem by replacing it with a Schaller!

@@CountryGuitarChops Aha! My mistake. Thanks for clarifying

@@mdaniels2832 No Problem!

Alan F Brookes really don’t need all that for a simple drop tuner. Making sure your nut is filed properly and adding a little pensile lead in the slot should do the trick.

Yes, there are other types (hip shot) of drop tuners, but as I mentioned, the banjo tuner is most popular because they work the best. Look at Waylons tele, and also Marty Stuart's "Clarence", which belonged to Clarence White and is the original B bender tele with 2 banjo tuners, one on each E string.

Yes, it will not lay down on the neck rest. I started using the cloth gig bags about the time I started using the tuner, so it wasn't an issue for me.

CountryGuitarChops, thanks for the reply. I suppose that won’t be a problem for a bit, but I’ll need to get one of those in the future.

+Steve564ify That might be a tad too thick, but I've never tried it on a string that size so I can't say for sure.

Faulty operator maybe? Jk dude

Well, you could, but realistically you would have to change the strings to a heavier gauge the father down you detune the guitar. You could probably get away with tuning down to a C with 10 gauge strings, but anything lower than that the string would get too loose.

Good question! I've been using bags for the past 25 years or so, but prior to that I cut out a hole in the styrofoam large enough for the tuner to lay flat in the case.

Royston Stiver Marty Stuart has it on low and high. As far as Waylon I can’t remember, he had 2 or 3 black leather bound telecasters.

As was said, yeah Waylon didn't use 2 of them on his Tele, but Clarence White did which makes sense given the fact he was a bluegrasser. As I'm sure you know, that was the first Parsons/White b-bender guitar and is now played amazingly by Marty Stuart. I've never really figured out who used the Keith banjo tuner on guitar first. It seems like Buck Trent would have popularized it with electric banjo but I stupidly did not ask Waylon when I was around him. I had the Keith tuner on my Tele for quite awhile and just like Waylon I prefer it over the Hipshot. Fender put them on his signature model which he didn't like for the same reason i don't. IT is on or off so you don't get the sound of the note bending down or up if you modulate or use it during a solo.

@@jdmyerscountry Clarence actually had it on his high E and low A, so he could play his tele in open G!

Not worth a darn! I was using one of those plastic molded cases when I first installed the tuner, and I had to cut a hole in the felt and styrofoam to allow the guitar to lay in the case. I never did try fitting on in a vintage style hard case. But, everybody else had switched over to using bags by then, so I "jumped on the band wagon" and started using bags too, which solved the problem. Bags are just much easier to fold up and store on stage.

DADGAD would be easiest. Use 3 Lock tuners High E Low E and B(Both e's to D&E and B to A&B). Not worth doing it for DADF#AD where you are simply dropping one string from DADGAD(G to F#). I would live with that little inconvenience. Also, I sometimes simply put capo on upside down and omit bass E. Play a normal D and hey presto dropped D

@@CountryGuitarChops I see the lessons and the dvds, but not the drop d tuner device

@@kevinbehan8617 Sorry, I thought you were looking for my website. Just google "banjo D tuner" and look for the "Keith" or Schaller" brand tuners with the 2 locking set screws.

@@CountryGuitarChops Thanks so much

I don't see why not.

You'll go a few cents sharp, due to the slight change in string tension. To most ears, in a live setting, it won't be noticed. If you're tracking, it will stick out like a sore thumb, but if you're cutting tracks, what's the chances of using a device like that? A trick I use, is after you detune to D, give the bar on your Bigsby a few downward love taps, that usually gets me close enough. It's not like a Bigsby isn't a living, breathing, monster of it's own, that decides for itself what state of tune you'll be in.

Pretty easy to find out. Tune your guitar, then drop your E to D. Now check the rest of your strings. I know you can’t do it on anything with a floating trem, not sure how much the Bigsby relies on string tension bias.

I just cut out a hole in the styrofoam under the tuner.

Just do a google search for drop d banjo tuner and you'll find both of them!

Tanks!!!

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Hmm, it's been quite a few years since I've installed one, but I believe you have to bore out a larger hole.

@CountryGuitarChops thanks, I was looking to install one of these and a palm bender G and B) on my Elite Tele, but don't know if I would like to drill holes in that one. I have a cheaper 75th Anniversary model (the silver metallic one), that would be better. But I'd have to take it to my Luthier. I'm also looking to replace the pickups in that one, especially the neck. But I'm on the fence for a good set, I'm thinking about a Twisted Tele set or the Brad Paisley set by Seymour Duncan... any recommendations? They sound like they don't match now, bridge pup is too icepickey and thin, and the neck is not clear, sounds dusty (if that makes sense) and not great at all. Any idea's? I know it's personal, but just some thoughts?

@@pjsnijdersmusic - I build my own pickups now, and have them in all my guitars. I used to like the SD broadcaster, but a customer sent me his .because he didn't like it. I could see why when I installed it, my first one was a stud, and his was a dud, they sounded totally different, and they aren't even wound to the original "broadcaster" specs. I really do like the way mine sound compared to assembly line pups. But I also had a set of the dimarzio "Twang Kings" and they sounded really good.