Druid's Wild Shape is useless - One D&D Druid & Paladin Playtest 

They somehow managed to do the exact opposite of what they said they wanted with wildshape. They changed it from a core feature to a debilitating trap.

The biggest problem with the statblocks is that they don't allow for very basic features that are the core of some animals, such as Pack Tactics for wolves or Spider Climb for spiders. You might look like the animal but you will never feel like that animal. You're just a cosplayer at that point.

I love how they looked at Animal of the Land doing as much damage as a Shillelagh and thought "that's too strong for Animal of the Sea! 1d6 only for crocodiles!"

the whole thing about wildshape was that you were that creature not some creatures form with some standard stats that slightly change. it lost it flavoring to add in artificial "flavoring". what's a spider without spider climb and web, what's a mole without burrowing, what's a wolf without pack tactics and good smelling? what's a giant bat without blindsight? you change into what you needed and if a form wasn't physically strong that was ok too, it had other options, like the giant frog, bite and swallow. or the giant octopi grappling capability.

Well, here's how it's gonna be at my table. The rules of One D&D are: "Duly noted, and ignored" - Rechlusiarc Grimaldus.

10:53 something very important to note, the damage you deal and the resistance you gain are going to be the same damage type, meaning that it’s unlikely that you’ll end up benefiting from both parts at once because a lot of enemies that deal elemental damage also resist or are immune to that damage.

Honestly the wild shape change feels like someone on the design team said “okay, here’s how Pathfinder 2e does it, now how can we simplify this right down to fit onto a single page?”

Notice also that "Combat Wild Shape" gives you "Quick Attack" which gives you an Unarmed Strike as a bonus action. Not a Bestial Strike from your Wild Shape stat block, but a normal Unarmed Strike. You're an elephant, hitting the enemy with your trunk and goring them with your tusks, then just casually punch them. You know.. As ya do..

Another thing about this version of wildshape is that you don't get any of the features that certain beast forms have anymore. You can't swallow creatures or jump extra far as a giant toad, you can't shoot webs as a giant spider, you can't poison enemies as a snake. These new generic wildshape stats have none of that. Plus you can't benefit from any class features while in wildshape. Goodbye raging bear

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. Moon druid is my favourite class/subclass combination in 5e. As written, I wouldn't waste my time with the One D&D Druid - or the game, come to that.

Another thing is that Druids lose quite a few iconic spells with their primal list: Druids gain: Conjure Volley, Swift Quiver, Wall of Ice, Power Word heal Druids lose: Blight, Confusion, Divination, Fire Shield, Hallucinatory Terrain, Cone of Cold, Contagion, Geas, Planar Binding, Flesh to Stone, Heroes Feast, Mirage Arcane, Plane Shift, Symbol, Antipathy/Sympathy, Feeblemind, Incendiary cloud, Foresight

What about the familiar getting 10 Intelligence? One of the many things that makes Pact of the Chain familiars useful is their ability to reliably remember and follow complex instructions like a human would. Now, find familiar BY DEFAULT has that. That's actually the bigger threat to Rogue here. A smart, tiny, unassuming animal that can be remotely observed or just accurately relay its experiences of some environment it independently explores. Accessible through a background feat, by the way.

The more I hear about 1 dnd the more I want to stick to 5e, at best I may homebrew with my group and steal some of the better ideas to put in my 5e game

another important thing, is that your items now drop OR merge into you... you can't for example keep equiping your insignia of claws or amulet of health in wildshape, unless it drops and you equip it again, wasting actions and turning it impratical in combat.

On the note about players not liking the wild shape features when leveling is that not everyone is going to use wild shape, so having a level up just give you the flying stat block and nothing else is just a dead level. It is why later circles gave alt uses for your wild shape so it's not a dead resource.

Druid has been killed flavor wise at least, since the main flavor thing that made the druid feel like anything but "wizard but nature" was wild shape, and wild shape now is infinitely less powerful or interesting. Even if the spells end up with similar power levels to before, if this druid comes to us like this, it's gonna be pretty much flavor sterile compared to before, which is a massive shame.

Technically, Wild Shape does have _one_ particular use: As an unbeatable Disguise Kit. After all, you're no longer restricted to transforming into Beasts. Now, you can transform into "Terrestrial Animals." Humans, as everyone else knows, are part of the animal kingdom, and it's somewhat safe to assume that most playable races are likewise part of said kingdom. As such, just about every playable race (and any royal NPCs who may or may not be a part of said race) are fair game. Just pick someone you wanna disguise as, then Wild Shape for a few hours into them. It's not your usual "disguise," soooo....

I always found how common resistant to non-magical damage was to be really odd. For the most part, it always felt like they were just afraid to give broad resistance to physical damage types to me.

If they are going to use a generic stat block, they should have an expanding list of buffs to choose from, similar to eldrich invocations. This way, they could keep all the features underwhelming and let players choose if the healing or wild shape should be stronger. Also, I love that even find familiar has an up-cast option. But whenever I see a spell without an upcast option, I wonder what it could be. Plus, if you are willing to cast a level 9 spell, its AC is 21. It isn't necessarily useful, but it would be really funny to have it use the help action every turn and watch as the boss wastes attacks on it. Even if it never gets used, I just want the option to do something stupid like that with a high-level spell.

The changes to Wild Shape and animal companions feel like the designers looked at Pathfinder 2e and decided to copy Paizo's homework, but badly. In PF2e Wild Shape is a Focus Spell, meaning you can regain a use by sitting down for 10 minutes after a fight, this is mirrored by One DnD's recharge of one use after a short rest. In PF2e Wild Shape starts off as purely a utility spell, as at level 1 you can only gain access to Pest Form, which turns you into a tiny animal. This gives you a bonus to stealth so you can use it for scouting an area. At level 3 you get access to Animal Form which is actually really decent if you want to have a melee option for a druid who didn't icnrease their Strength or Dexterity.

The best thing about the changes, it eliminates the asinine "oh well have you seen the creature" problem when you want to wild shape. But got they really don't want anything to cross class into druid now huh, if they didn't lose all of their abilities it might be okay, but darn, no more barbarian druid, or fighter druids. Are they trying to outright get rid of any multi-classing, cause that's how a lot of the changes feel.

If you lose all your features, you lose your background and feats, both of which are ASIs. You literally become weaker when you Wildshape 😂

"I acknowledge that the council has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it."

There also used to be a reason to choose either an owl or a hawk. Owls were slower, but could see in the dark. Hawks were fast, but could not see in the dark. There was a reason to choose certain forms. This mattered a lot to both Druids and Familiars.

Two changes that I would make to wildshape in the UA: 1. When you wildshape, you gain temp HP equal to 6 times your druid level (land form), 5 times your druid level (aquatic form), or 4 times your druid level (sky form). As a large creature, you gain additional temp HP equal to your WIS modifier times your druid level. (The last part might need some nerf to balance it - maybe your AC only adds 1/2 your WIS modifier, rounded up?). Once the temp HP is gone, you must expend another use of Channel Nature to remain transformed, or else you revert to your normal form. 2. Each wildshape template includes a list of 3-6 additional features tailored to that type of beast: Prehensile tail, Pack tactics, Trampling charge, Web spinner, Poison spray, etc. (Land); Tentacle, Frenzy, Grappling bite, etc. (Water); Echolocation/Blindsight, Sting, Mimicry, etc. (Air). Each time you wildshape, you can choose one additional feature which can be used either in place of your action or as a bonus action (depending on the feature). Moon Druids would then be able to choose one additional feature when they wildshape.

I absolutely love druids in 5e, literally favorite class, just the flavor, fun, and power all in one class, but not im gonna be honest, i wont play druid in one dnd if this happens, which would sucks, but its not like 5e is gone, so im not mad

Find Familiar no longer having Flyby seems like a big thing gone as well. So chances of your Familiar dying in combat after giving you the Help action is now very likely.

Just to reiterate, 1DnD supposedly being backward compatible falls apart as a design goal wherever they implement subclass uniformity across all classes; that is, getting subclass at L3 for all classes. What will become of the the subclasses presented in 5e books?

The following is a list of changes that OneDnD has made that I like: Exhaustion rules

Simple is not always better. The funnest thing about Wildshape was brainstorming to find out the BEST possible animal you can turn into for the situation. The fact it was so varied kept it fresh and interesting. And this whole new “you can flavor it however you want, but it needs this generic ass stat spread.” More often than no ruins the immersion your “free” to impose. For example say your a Drow Druid, so fitting character you chose you wildshapes to be spider themed, “I turn into a giant spider… only I don’t have spiderclimb…or a poison bite…or any from of webs… how the fuck am I a spider?” Wildshape rewarded creativity, but now an entire party of Druids can Wildshape into “”different animals”” but all have the same exact abilities.

A minor thing: as worded, you ALWAYS have access to Quick Attack as a moon druid. Which is cute, if you had like a level of Fighter or Monk for upgraded unarmed strikes. Wouldn't be useful WHILE wildshaped, but there it is.

The full-on hp-of-the-animal damage buffer was always an issue that needed to go away, but I definitely wish they'd designed combat wild shape as an explicit buff; Like, literally just give you a bite that matches expected weapon damage and then allow a claws attack on top of it for controlled extra damage, keep your current AC, and maybe give you Fast Healing or some amount of level-scaling temp hp. Making it explicitly always a buff would give you leverage on Moon Druid's total power so you could avoid setting it too high or too low.

Nature's aid is just the old Lay On Hands but with a range. I do appreciate having long range healing to make a dude jump back up on their feet without spending a spell slot, but there could be so much more.

This version of Wildshape reeks of beta or even alpha testing. My guess is that this current Wildshape form is a rough outline for a personal animal form that all Druids will have and there will be further updates to retool the old Wildshape system. Also, note how the stat block says that your Strength and Dexterity scores are now equal to your Wisdom score. So a Wildshape Druid with 20 Wisdom now has 20 Strength and Dexterity as well, which could make for some strong multiclass options if, say, the Barbarian or Monk have class features that are compatible with the Wildshape form. The prospect of a Kung Fu Druid is kind of terrifying actually...

One of the most fun features of the druid for my players was searching for new animal forms that give them new abilities or senses. (We played with a houserule that you actually have to study/observe the animal). That versatility and learning new forms was the main point of the whole class.

"... but it quickly becomes apparent that this was not thought through too much..." Pretty much summarizes all of One D&D.

One thing I'd do to offset wild shape being a massive debuff: When you use the Wild Shape feature roll a number of d8s equal to your Druid class level and add your Wisdom modifier to the result. You gain that much temporary HP while in your Wild Shape form. Then add a clause to Alternating Forms so that players can preserve remaining temporary HP when they change back and forth

One dnd, so far, as predicted, has been let's remove fun and not fix anything.

*Moon Druid:* _exists_ *WOTC:* Sorry guys. Y’all are having too much fun. *Also WOTC:* Why aren’t players more excited for our content?

this is why One D&D is just for patching trash rules in 5E like some casters not getting Cantrips, Duel Wielding, Unarmed strikes, Starting equipment and background starting gear so far the rest is binnable

One thing i'll add, WildShape is now disabled by being incapacitated, meaning it's not even a good tool to run away from an encounter and is super-risky when flying/diving

Actually, while druids aren't really supposed to wear metal armor, in 5e they can technically do it. Nothing from a mechanical standpoint stops them from doing this. This is just in the flavor text of the PHB, iirc.

"The apperance has you choose has no effect on the form's capabilities" and "your ability to handle objects is determined by the form's limbs" sound like contradictions to me.

As someone who introduces D&D to a lot of new players, i think it's good to have the Subclass at level 3, because when you tell a person who's already overwhelmed by a bunch of Races and a bunch of Classes, I feel bad for telling them to then pick a Subclass when they haven't even learned how their Class works in practice yet.

Sheleighleigh was my main go to. Nothing beats ripping up a 2x4 floorboard and turning it into a magical weapon.

One option would be to have a list of animal forms that are level locked, so say Wolf, Deer, Horse, Constrictor Snake at level 1, Bear, Giant Ape, Giant Spider at level 3 (or whenever they add the climb feature) etc, with a note that says "Or any other suitable CR form agreed to by the DM".

I'm changing it to give the Druid 1d6 temp HP per level of Druid for Wildshape, I think that mostly fixes it. Reduced AC makes sense but does sting for the Druid who has become the default tank in our group. And the bonus Unarmed Strike for Moon Druid is cool.

So far One DnD is just making me want to stick with 5e. There really hasn't been anything that I thought was better so far

The moon druid lets you do "unarmed strikes" as a BA But the water and sky wild shape force you to keep your normal STR. So unless you are a buffed druid that put points into STR, you can throw a weak ass punch as a BA.

hmm and AC 10+wis mod. so it does not follow your level, meaning you will be an easy target at higher levels :( also using your HP, menig you might be more squishy when wildshaping, making it a hazard using wildshape :( and the delay for swimming and flying forms. at 5th level most casters can cast fly, so why not be able to use flying forms from then on and swimming from lvl 3 or so.

I am going to argue, the rogue while a great scout they are so much more then scout and can do things other scouts just can't do or are very unlikely to pull off successfully. Someone in wildshape or a familar would have a very hard time pulling off due to low proficiency. Like going into the enemy fortress set up traps, disable traps and any number of useful things the party may or may not be thinking about when they want to scout a dangerous location.

2:37 The aquatic/aerial forms were probably delayed to make sure the druid gets something new at every level (this seems to be a general design principle in One D&D) 9:56 The "Abjuration Spells" feature (from Combat Wild Shape) was only meant to replace the ability to spend spell slots to regain HP while wild shaped (Jeremy Crawford has discussed that design intention), so the fact they can now also cast spells that have nothing to do with healing (and also being able to heal other people) is (kind of) a boost (I really like you can now cast Dispel Magic in wild shape - against some kind of debuff or ongoing spell effect -, and still have a Bonus Action for an Unarmed Strike). That being said, the 5e Moon Druid had better "selfish healing economy" (they got a scalable 1d8 per spell slot level used, and still had an Action free for a Multiattack). I think it's a fair trade, though (1 abjuration spell + 1 attack vs. selfish healing + multiattack).

I think it's interesting to see these changes. I think it gives us real insight into how different the game is played by WotCs people.

I think WoTC has been slowly stripping complexity out of DnD for a while now, I just pulled out my old 3.5 books (probably the height of complex DnD) and examined them. The classes were all different and had different roles. In 5e you can build any class to take any role, I currently play a 5e rogue/ranger who constantly out damages our parties dedicated melee characters. That should not possible, that character combination should be a dedicated archer but RAW I can melee with the best. I've seen builds for melee clerics, melee wizards, melee druids, and also casting rogues, casting rangers, etc etc. I think we need to go back to an era where classes were more defined, I think it encouraged people to be more creative with their roles and characters.

Remember, this playtest material is being designed with single player campaigning via AI dm's in mind, and I deeply doubt they have been or will be able to successfully program an AI to react to the full gamut of choices available to wildshaping Druids. So, they nerf the hell out of it, change it to three predictable statblocks where the only thing that matters is how you move, and they make it suck in combat to limit your desire to use it. They have taken wildshape, one of the most expressive abilities in DnD, and made it into what is effectively a cheap once per rest movement option for traversal only. All at the altar of the AI DM.

Shillelagh now the superior melee option to wild shape. I guess you get multiattack at level 5 or something but with a wopping max AC of 15 do you really wanna get close? I suppose with only light armor your normal form's AC isnt gonna be great either. I think it's a good idea generally, that druids cant just use wild shape to be better at melee than fighters and barbarians, better at stealth and scouting than rogues and also be a full spellcaster at all other times, but it just does nothing now.

Isnt Healing Blossom a lot like Mass Healing Word? You don't really use it to make hp buffer, but to get up multiple allies dropped to 0hp

The oned&d elemental wild shape means metagaming is required to take not screw your party over against enemies with resistances. And if you go up again, say, an iron golem and pick fire, it's even worse. OneD&D wild shape is just flat out bad

Once, Druids were Animorphs. Now, they just have fur costumes.

Saw a giant survey that asked players what classes they played and it found that Druid was the least played class in the game. Apparently Wizards saw this and said, “Hmm, how to we increase player interaction? What if we made the core ability much worse with very little trade off?”

Each of the wild shapes needs its own hit point pool and i think they should have a wider verity of templates to represent different kinds of animals like a turtle form, octopus and snake. And get rid of tiny critter and replace it with giant creature to give you huge animal forms

I will be playtesting a homebrewed version of the Druid rather than the version presented in this UA: - Change the Hit Dice of the Druid to a D6; when they enter Wild Shape their current and maximum hit points increase by 3 times their Druid level * This gives them a healthpool equivalent to a Barbarian while in Wild Shape, although with less defenses * this also makes the shapeshifting class able to heal themselves very effectively after a few levels - Change their Wild Shape AC to 10+PB+Wis - Move all Wild Shape and Channel Nature features to a list of Aspects of Natures, invocation-like options that provide Wild Shape and Channel Nature options and upgrades. You choose two to gain at level 2 and gain one more at levels 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 and 15. * this means you can choose if you want to be a versatile shapeshifter or nature channeller, you can focus your build on the way your want to play rather than getting all the same features that all Druids get. * this also makes it easier to expend on with new releases and homebrew, you can add options to the list.

I love how they went "hmm... Druid is one of the least played classes... Let's fucking destroy it"

If find familiar health scales with spell level, that is the first scaling ritual spell we get, right? Can you upcast a spell while casting it as a ritual?

WotC: “We don’t understand why nobody wants to play a Druid, everyone likes turning into animals or casting spells!” Players: “Sweet, I can turn into an animal and cast spells!?” WotC: “WE SAID ‘OR’, NOT ‘AND’!”

I like idea od wildshape doing something different like some subclasses already do but not at the cost of killing its main feature. Also I think while not easiest the coolest part was taking animal characteristics almost 1 on 1 not bland template...

Why is healing in the abjuration school now... It's drifting even farther away from where it belongs...

Honestly I think setting Wildshape into a few stat blocks is the right decision. However, I think all they really need is the option to add Primal traits to them. Such as a poison attack if aquatic or pest, or maybe increased speed, or size and power, etc. It can be even more fun with a block + traits system, as expansions and subclasses can unfold even more traits (or even blocks in uncommon cases). Plus being able to use some outside of Wildshape can be fun as a weird feature too, invoking traits of animals. Like, let climbing, pack tactics, grapple attacks, shells, primal senses, etc be traits to slap on and I think enough people will be buzzing and expressing creatures in so many little ways. D&D’s harder, clunkier, and denser, than most TTRPGs in my experience and it really doesn’t really have to be. It just needs to double down with its direction and how people actually play. Also, absolutely good design for the HP buffer for extra health bars being gone. However, I just think a simple new rule is that beefier creatures give temp HP that scales with level and you can just call it a day.

I must be the only 1 then who really likes the new moon druid. That way you dont have to junp between books/ beg your dm to let you run the kavu predator. Yes the hp is kinda poo, but the rest actually makes the dmg scalable and fitting better for higher level play

So far I haven't seen anything in the play tests that makes me want to play one dnd.

"Owlbears are now RAW, just in time for the movie... that came out 2 years prior".

They should just make a new class tbh. Make a shifter like pathfinder, someone that trades most of their druid spell capabilities for mastery of their form. Martial focus with abilities that align with that. Then they could make the druid much more focused on spell casting and its nature theme, probably make wildshape utility only.

they really should either make wild shape work by CR like before or they gotta make it so you build your form by picking from a bunch of different options that cost different points (with you gaining more points to spend as you level up or the like) that way you can pick options to customise your build and make your animal fit then you can just make moon druids have more points!

As is often the case when things are changed in a game, sometimes you need to recalibrate to what the new version is INTENDED to do, and not just do a straight comparison to what it WAS doing. I wouldn't go so far as to say this version of Wild Shape is useless, just that it is significantly less useful than it was before at early levels, while becoming more functional and relevant at later levels for things other than scouting. With your STR & DEX changing to match your WIS when you shift, you can focus on WIS and CON for your primary stats, which means you'll have more HP than you would otherwise have if you also tried to boost DEX. However, with this version of Wild Shape you'll have a higher chance to hit with melee attacks than your humanoid form would and the damage on melee attacks is better on average than the damage on cantrips (flat 1d10 from cantrip averages 5.5 versus 1d8+3 which averages 7.5), and with multiattack at 5th level that disparity in average damage per round would increase (2d8+8 for an average of 17 vs 2d10 for an average of 11). The damage output doesn't balance out until the next cantrip damage increase at level 11. I think Alternating Forms would make this version of Wild Shape more useful if it came in earlier. That would allow you to transform into a creature and serve as a mount for a melee party member, while also adding in your own attacks from the beast form, then switch back to your humanoid form when you need to cast a spell. I agree that delaying the sea form to 7th level is pretty lame. Water sections aren't very common in the first place, and by 7th level most casters have other ways of dealing with water when it does come into play, so its really just taking something away from the class for no good reason (as opposed to the tiny form scouting that overshadowed the rogues, rangers and monks who should be good scouts). The Moon Druid's combat wild shape feature specifically works while wild shaped, which overrules the generic "you can't use other features" bit from the regular wild shape. So the wording is technically fine as is since "specific beats general" according to the rules, but it could be stated differently to avoid confusion. The ability to cast abjuration spells while wild shaped isn't limited to druid spells, and the Wild Shape stat block is based off your stats and HP, not your druid level, so if you're good with just the land form, there could be some interesting multi-class potential there. Regardless, pick up Blade Ward and Resistance as cantrips (both are reactions in One D&D and are abjuration spells) and you're not nearly as squishy. Throw on some barding for more AC or cast Mage Armor or Shield of Faith (from a multiclass dip) before shifting and you've got a decent front-line fighter that can fall back into a caster role as needed.

Since we can combine features of animals to make a hybrid, every single wild shape can now be a bird with arms. Don't have a fly speed? Emu with arms. Want a swim speed? Penguin with arms. Level 9+? Giant potoo with arms. Lots of great ideas in this playtest, but the execution is completely botched. Wild Shape needs to know what it's for. Either it's for out of combat exploration (tiny forms, unique beast features, etc. but gets no AC/hp buffs for combat), it's for utility like getting better move speed like a Moorbounder or a burrow speed like a giant badger so you can Heat Metal and vanish underground where your concentration can't get broken, or it's for actually fighting on the front lines. If it's for the front likes, which Moon Druid is without a doubt, then it needs to succeed at a front-line role. I think tank fits best. Keep the low damage and give them a huge AC and/or features to pick from when they wild shape that let them answer the current situation. No one will mind if the caster can suddenly get up front and tank, since that's objectively worse than casting a control spell that does the same thing but better, and it has synergy with things like Sneak Attack. I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again. A Druid is basically worse than a Wizard in every way except Wild Shape. Every bit of power and flexibility a wizard has that a druid doesn't needs to convert into Wild Shape being useful, or the one or two features and spells druids get that wizards don't. In this current iteration, I would never, ever pick druid over a wizard, sorcerer or bard. And yeah, Healing Blossom is a miss. Someone else brought up a great point which is that it forces the Druid into healing. Previously, any healing features were optional. Now, if you want to be a nature magic caster archetype, you are forced to have a healing feature built in at all times. That's not good. Some players don't want to heal, and if I wanted to just a front lines Moon Druid fighting in wild shape and blast/control outside of that, it would be really frustrating to me to have the constant table pressure of 'but you can heal.' I could see lots of situations where using Channel Nature for healing someone would be the right choice. But Healing Blossom means it isn't my choice anymore. I either have to do the 'right' thing in the moment, or be a problem player. It also doesn't scale for %$@!&, so that stinks.

5E Wild Shape was already use-impaired, being mostly just extra hit points that turned off your strongest features (spellcasting). This is just more down the same line.

They did the wildshape charge out of laziness. its easier to make a VTT using generic stat blocks like this instead of giving players a list of stuff to turn into. Most practical explanation for this abysmal design. And chatbot AIs can handle a single stat block with a bit of math than the entire monster manual for players.

"No sweetie, we're not going to Wildshape. We have wildshape at home." The wildshape at home: 💩

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I will say. I have been extremely happy with thr change to spell casting as a whole. Its not just simpler, but it reigns in the ubiquitous nature of spellcasting. A fighter can go all day, maybe swapping out a weapon, but if a caster prepares bad spells, or even under specializes with good spells, for the day they're gonna struggle. As for Wildshape. Idk it konda sucks to lose out on the cool abilities of animals. Turning into a 1cm spider was maybe a little Op but whatever. The real kick in the teeth is you don't even get Temp Hp when you cahnge. I know they don't want Druids being better at taking damage than Barbarians, but the fix for that is to make it Temp HP based on a fixed, controllable point. Temp HP is way weaker than actual HP. Also what the heck is up with that trash AC? Its useless.

Guess ill play a wizard.

Personally i never understood why you have to wait until 7 for a fly speed when your wizard can cast fly by lvl 5

"...Moved the subclass selection to level 3 instead of level 1." [Cries in Rogue]

Feels like they're copying pf2e without taking into account of pf2e's system.

Crawford said it best in their video about the Druid “some people just want to be a nature wizard” so they neutered wildshape into the dirt. It will probably end up being nerfed in the long run, but hopefully not this much.

I think the biggest issue people have with wildshape being in so many levels is the combanation of wildshape being terrible in the new UA in combination with how much of your kit is filled up by wild shape If the druid wild shape was actually good i dont think people would really mind how many of the features are filled by wildshape improvements They should make 2 changes to druid wildshape -for base class druid create a list of perks that you can apply onto your wildshape form so that you can build the statblocks to actually feel like you are what you turn into -for the moon druid subclass give them a temp hp buff to wildshape

Up the AC to 13 + Wisdom, give them PB or Druid Level + WIS temp HP when they wild shape. Bam I fixed it. 11:55 YEEEESSSSS! I've been saying this about thousand forms for ages! It would be a perfectly good feature if they made alter self not take concentration. Either the spell itself or just when it's cast using that feature.

First they nerfed my favorite class(Bard) to the ground then they ruined my second favorite class(Druid) OneD&D is gonna suck i am just going to stick to 5e.

So why didn't they make Druid a sub class of the Cleric and their channel divinity instead? Sounds awful regardless.

One dnd is like a feverdream from someone who heard about dnd from someone who saw stranger things once 3 years ago.

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This only reinforces my thought that druid should be two different classes. A nature based spell caster and a melee shape shifter.

It was always useless unless you were moon druid. If you were not moon drui you were either using it for something more useful (wildfire pet, star druid constelations, spore form) or you forgot it existed. "Oh but you could turn into a spider and infiltrate-" fuck it. Nobody was doing that. The new wildshape templates are weak, but they are a step in the right direction.

How does spells cast on you as a Druid effect you when wildshaping? Like bark skill or alter self, not fireball.

The best rule changes the D&D ever has been Pathfinder.

6:08 why are you saying that healing blossom is bad? With 16 wisdom it’s 7.5 healing on average that can be used to get multiple creatures up from unconsciousness. It’s basically a slightly worse goodberry that you get extra uses of for short rests. And when you increase your wis to 18 it’s on average just as much healing as goodberry. Sure it’s not something you’ll want to spend your action on in combat unless people are down, but that’s true about almost all healing spells. It’s basically goodberry that you get an extra use on a short rest and you can use it bring allies up from unconsciousness.

Good lord they should be brought up on charges for the senseless homicidal butchering of the moon druid. You can reel in the spellcasting while making moon druid forms good for all levels. They just aren’t thinking outside of the box. Too stuck in a formula to make the changes they need to keep this iconic subclass viable.

If my dm switches to this my moon druid totem barbarian is completely borked.

2:40 i really dont see why we're even keeping the restriction on swim speeds? swimming just doesnt seem all that powerful. like when i see a race with a swim speed i consider it a ribbon feature EDIT: just finished the video lmao they changed druids signature ability into "I lower my AC!"

"your ability to handle objects is determined by the form’s limbs", plus at lv5+ you have multi-attack (not extra attack). Thus RAW at lv7 Animal of the Sea can turn into an Octopus (it's even suggested) which has 8 limbs all of which can wield a weapon and attack with it using multi-attack (it's usually 2 or 3 attacks, but Marilith gets 7, Hydras also have no upper limit as to how many) as your action, then you also get Unarmed strike as a bonus action in addition to the 8 weapon attacks you took. Also you can concentrate on Hunter's Mark on top of that.