Yeah, exactly! I saw the video's title and immediately thought that was another of that videos that shows how good was the old times... but I happy to be wrong... 2.0 sounds very good
Yea the smaller displacement takes away the deep natural growl a little. Add the exhaust that the series uses and they were certainly very high pitched. Honestly I'd say DTM has their exhaust package on point. You can hear such similarities between the two engines in this comparison.
@@imakeumadLOL the V8 doesn't sound that way because of its displacement, it sounds that way because it has a flat plane crankshaft. It fires evenly across both cylinder banks, so it doesn't have the "burble" most V8 engines do.
@@b.c.2281 Yeah but Ferrari V8's sound awesome and they're relativey low displacement and have a flat plane crank, while these dtm V8's (at least in video) sound like straight piped inline 4's
@@amac_ that's due to exhaust design alone. DTM cars don't have a crossover (like an x-pipe, h-pipe, or complicated crossover headers) that even impulses and create different resonances at higher rpms. If you'd like a good illustration the effect exhaust design has on sound, there's a RU-vidr by the name of Nick Kautz that has a number of videos with different exhaust designs on his 5.0 swapped E36 BMW. Listen to his video of the 180 degree header exhaust system (this equalizes exhaust pulses and creates a flat-plane like sound) with no crossovers vs with. It's not a perfect example because it's a crossplane V8, but the effect is very noticeable.
@@b.c.2281 yeah yeah I know it's the exhaust design, I was just trying to say the 4.0 v8 don't sound bad because they have a flat plane crank or they're low displacement, but maybe I didn't explain my point correctly in my comment. Btw thanks for suggesting me the video.
"If DTM can get this sound out of a 4 cyl." Bcuz yout think that sound good ? Its sound like what it is: a shitty 2000 cc 4 cylinders engine . Even worse, it's a turbo. Damn NA engines with huge displacement sound so great .
Yes thats true, but the 2.0L 4Cyl. ist also very loud. The "Problem" on track is, that the most tracks are going clockwise. The "new" DTM Cars just have one sidepie which showes most of the time to the track infield. Thats the reason may they sound a litte bit more silent. :)
Johannes Gugger Big facts. Sound wins you shit! And also........... all these new generation turbos get louder and louder over time, just look at F1. And too be honest, on the throttle there is really not much of a difference to the old models.
Johannes Gugger - That’s through regulations though, to match up with Super GT. They could’ve made NA engines with the same power if the regulations were set that way.
Nick AlexuseesuxelA I actually were standing right next to a 2012 Red Bull F1 car (had a V8 with Turbos) and it was the loudest sound I ever heard. And I already shot weapons before. A gun is more silent than a V8 with Turbos. It probably depends on how it‘s built.
LipColt for what reasons ? It’s not like they are gonna charge same as a Honda type R for an Aston and people who spend that much money on cars would like something that they already sell... so yeah you not getting street version of it ...
What really kills the F1 engine noise, is the MGU-H unit that attaches to the turbo to recover energy, because of that, the F1 engine almost never opens the wastegate, so the exhaust is always very muffled.
comments about v8 engines in the last years, have reached intellectual levels of karens taking pictures of everything they eat, and reasoning levels of high school girls describing how justin bieber is just the best ever
Christian Hegener ne aber von dem was ich so auf RU-vid sehe kann da der 1.6l v6 nicht mithalten. Außerdem ist das „rattern“ beim gaswegnehmen absolut geil
@@BSoBadd87 Also it doesn't sound better, it doesn't sound bad and in fact it sounds down right good but not better then the V-8 engines that they use to have.
BSoBadd87 with how hard those cylinders are being pushed especially with all of the air being pushed in from that turbo, id have to say maybe reliability, even if they check after every race. Also maybe power at high rpms?
@@ciello___8307 that may so but the want some too and those 100hp less no one cares or see. But the drivers also like those turbo's more then the old V8.
@@real_talk1180 There are a LOT of racing cars using Hewland and XTrac transmissions. Audi even have a DTM car sponsored by Akropovic, and partner with them for DTM and the old WEC exhaust systems.
Yeah the JUDD V8’s would be the way to go!!! 😎👌🏼 Anybody who says that any 4-banger sounds better than a JUDD V8 at 11.000rpm, should have not the privilege of breathing air... 😊
The sound from any naturally aspirated engine is bar none. Although the 4 bangers are starting to sound good too... the 2.0L turbo Mazda in the DPi cars sounds surprisingly good.
Beautiful sounds, both of them. Unlike most, who love the burbling sound of the crossplane V8, I think the best V8's sound like a very angry straight four.
Every small volume/cm3 V8 engine has that sound + equal headers and proper exhaust contribute to doing so. Listen ferrari engines, dfv engines, judd v8, yamaha v8 and many more...
@@stevebuscemi3622 No it won't, at least surely not "in lEsS tHaN 10 YeArS"... The electric DTM (which still exists solely in theory, only a vision) will firstly be the petrol DTM's support series, but this alone is many years away, so chill out.
efficiency is the key now, reducing exhaust gases by decreasing amount of cylinders and displacement, but compensated with either a turbocharger or electric motor/booster to increase power
I was surprised how the V8s sounded, wasnt expecting such a raspy sound didn’t sound like V8s at all. Not much difference between them and the new 2L turbos, which sound pretty good for what they are.
DTM uses a flat plane V8 instead of a typical American V8, a flatplane V8 is essentially to inline 4 sat together, therefore it sounds similar to a 4 cyl civic
@@yousufzahid6949 a v8 is 2 4cylinder no matter the design... the distinct sound isnt given by the crank design,but rather the intentional higher rev nature of the whole engine.
@@jkk20 That is true, there are more factors than only crank design, but if you were to rev a for exampme Ford Mustang V8 (cross plane) high as a DTM V8 it would not sound the same
@@yousufzahid6949 of course it would not. but,some crossplane v8's could sound totally different than the mass sold crossplane v8's due to different tuning.. because sound given off by combustion is affected by many things. thus,the argument that all crossplane engine sound the same is stupid to even make,but they do have a general sound to them mostly.
I was at Zandvoort the last time DTM raced there and the V8's sounded amazing. The different manufacturers all had a unique sound. The 2.0 Turbo sounds very cool as well. Hope DTM won't die out and more manufacturers will join.
American V8s tend to be crossplane and European V8s tend to be flatplane. These V8 engines are flatplane, the reason it sounds like neither is because the exhaust has no crossovers (X pipes, h pipes, etc) which make it sound more like a 4 cylinder engine.
Y'all remember way back in 2010-2013 some of the Mercs had a high pitched exhaust sounds akin to the ones you'd find in older Ferrari V8s? It was only a few cars on the grid that had that higher pitched (think an octave up) sound.
@@racingreporteurope Yeah, you had the more 4-cylinder sounding V8s but then the occasional Mercedes or even Audi with that high pitched, F1-like sound, wonder if they used different headers or something because it was a distinct note from the rest of the cars.
Surprised to see that the old V8 sounds like a shitty tuba. Reminds me of a fartier flatplane, Civic-sounding F430. The 2.0 sounds so smooth, that even if I don't like it, I prefer it instead of the V8. Sad, really sad.
I prefer the turbo sound in this one tbh. I'm probably the only one lol. It's a shame you can barely hear the turbo in F1. That alone would make a big difference imo.
Yeah sounds liek stainless or TI pipes without a resonator designed for minimum weight and less fucks about downstream aside from headers/collectors. Sad.
Oh man that flatplane V8 sounded a lot better, but a 2.0 Turbo suits the character of DTM a lot more. They should also require a stock chassis and less aero in my opinion. Make the race car actually resemble a stock production car, like in the old days.
Breh the 4L V8s sound like 2L i4s XD So I’m not even mad on downsizing here because they don’t really sound that different. It’s actually quite cool because the cars seem faster or at least have more downforce with these huge wings
@@Rick-bm5uq yes its caricature.. But i think V8 have a better music then they sound like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-czOY3kVKp30.html
My ideal supercar engine is a 4 liter over 9000 rpm twin-turbo Honda F20C derived FPC V8 with turbo whistle, anti-lag, and a high overtone similar to the Ferrari F458 Italia.
