Dumbbell Pullovers for Chest or Back?  

I gotta admit you said what everyone was thinking by a funny and smart way

His elbows were so bent he actually hit his head on one rep lol

Literally felt that

You're right. I'm trying to follow his form and I feel nothing in my back

...how? A skull crush has elbow flexion.

Lol facts

No it doesn't, back and serratus can't work together since they're antagonist to each other also the chest is antagonist of the lats, and if they work together it would be a ineffective movement, cuz both of functions have nothing to do like serratus, traps and shoulder

@Loki Laufeyson I just said the truth lol

Wrong

@@CARLOSJJAREZ just coz theyre agonists doesnt mean they can't work together, squats use both hamstrings and quads in a push, this doesnt mean they're good for hamstring development but it is applicable in other scenarios

I always bend my elbows while doing these, otherwise keeping the elbow fixed somehow hurts my shoulder joint. Still my back remains sore the next day. And triceps also going to failure at the end to squeeze extra reps adds additional triceps volume. So a win win

@@dezertfox3681 Glad this helped you bro, I also wish they went into more detail with the specific cues and strategy to a movement.

Yea, it's a triceps exercise.

Same thing happens to me with dumbbell fly's. I never couldn't connect with the chest and also got a scapular injury as a bonus.

@@ANTIMANNER_GAMING Try dumbbell flys on the floor instead of the bench. Much safer for shoulders and you will instantly feel it in the chest when you squeeze at the top of the movement.

@@bertrandfrancis5691 What kind of advice...

Do it with a cable, it's much better at stimulating a mind muscle connection in my experience

Try doing it with only your upper back touching the bench while ur lower back and glutes are in the air and ur legs are bent 90 degree

You're thinking of a skull crusher

Because he can't even do it right

Pullover... pull.... over.... it is a pulling move

Exactly. This schmuck is just that: a schmuck who doesn't k ow what he's talking about

There is honestly not chest involved in this exercise... only at the top as isometric stabilization with the dumbell. This guy is full of shit with his broscience. As a kinesiology graduate, this fool has many flaws and keeps popping up in my feed. I feel sorry for those that actually believe this smooth brain.

Yes

@dezertfox3681 yeah, I go semi heavy on these. I start with 15 reps at 35 lbs, then 12 at 50lbs and then a drop set of 8 at 60lbs, no rest, 8 more at 45lbs. After each set do 10 pull ups, standard to wide grip. I can only get 4 or so before needing to use the assist but that was my actual workout this afternoon. A

If you raise the dumbbells right above your head you will feel in your late if you raise above your chest you would feel your chest. I Don’t like how he explained it in the video

It just depends on how you built, it can still be useful at the end of your workout as a stretching exercise

The torque you get from the lats stops the moment the dumbell is over your head. Therefore you don't get the best lat activation through full ROM from this exercise. Also this exercise doesn't do shit for chest except act as an isometric hold at the top. Because you have a close grip you'll feel your chest fibers, but they aren't necessarily being worked for BUILDING muscle. If you wanna build your chest, focus on full ROM dynamic movements such as cables and high strength from compound movements. Lats can be worked from various pulling angles and levers and this one shown here is okay, but very sub par to what you could be doing in the gym. Save your time and do this as maybe the last accessory exercise in a back day. And I'd recommend not even doing this for chest lmao. If you do it's up to you at the end of the day, but this guy gives trash advice.

Not possible at my gym with how crammed together the benches are

More benifit then bro

yes

Nah I’m pretty sure this is legit. It comes down to which muscle group is are better shoulder flexors when the arms arm externally vs internally rotated. However I’ve also seen people claim the opposite (external for lats, internal for chest) so I’m not sure.

@@bengiebeler4683 @Ben Giebeler I'm a kinesiology major with emphasis in physical fitness and physical therapy. All I have to say is the amount of chest activation involve here is when hes holding the dumbell above his chest for support. Even then it's only an isometric hold with a dumbell which doesn't contribute much muscle gain as a dynamic bent arm movement that'll take you through the full range of the chest muscle fibers. There is definitely latissimus dorsi activation in this exercise due to the way his body is positioned. However externally vs internally rotating the arms doesn't affect the lever of torque on the chest by no means. You may feel a slight extra squeeze in the chest, but I'll guarantee you're better off spending time doing more cable flys than incorporating this exercise for CHEST specifically. If you use this for lats and triceps that's fine. These youtubers barely knownwhat their talking about and its easy to make their crap sound good to people who know nothing about the body and nuances of movement.

@@OSeanSanO Exactly man very good comment

Shoulder flexion is also a component of Chest function

@@vibez8978 clavicular head contributes to sh flexion, but the gravity and weight bcoz of the direction of movement in pullover past 90• of sh flexion assist rather than put tension on ant delt and chest muscles? If I can find an EMG study, ill put a link below. Tnx

Will give you the sickest pump of your chest

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Also keep your arms straighter and use lighter weights to get better lat activation

Chest and lats are not antagonist muscle groups. The antagonist of the lats is the delts. This exercise does indeed work the chest and lats.

@@jacobj3491 You will not get a bigger chest for doing pullovers my dude oml, its the same thing as staying in a bench press at the start of the movement, that wouldnt get anyone a bigger chest lol, and no actually, the serratus anterior its antagonist of the lats, because lats work with shoulder extension, and saying that lats are antagonist of the shoulders its silly, and yeah, you may activate the chest for his abduct functiont, but it isnt supporting the movement a.k.a it isnt doing anything that could bring new stimulus to grow or atleast work, saying that pullovers will get you bigger chest, its like saying biceps curls will get you bigger biceps ._.