Greetings from Germany! That kind of pin was often used by hunters and fastened to their traditional hats. It is sometimes given out in contests and/or to members of a hunters club.
I’m glad you didn’t edit out the broken drill bit. Everyone needs the lesson to secure your work piece. My lesson was a 5+ pound angle plate that I slung across the shop when a 1/2” drill bit snagged and broke! It was ugly!😉
Hi Cora-!! Hi Chloe !! LUV both of your pups, Cora's a real sweetheart and so is Chloe, she reminds me very much of my dog Lady I had in my youth, she was also terrified of storms - been over 40 years and I still miss her to this day.
I found the same vise at a garage sale for 20 bucks it was froze solid wouldn’t move I soaked it in pb blaster an hit it with a dead blow hammer an broke it lose. Cleaned it up an put it to work. Best vise I have ever owned. I have a York bullet vise too works great. Found a couple old vises in the trash.
I have one of these ready to restor. Someone welded the jaws on, welded the keeper that holds the handle in place, welded it to a peace of 3/4 inch plate and replaced the handle with a longer bar for more leverage. I picked it up for 20 bucks sprayed some PB blaster in it and it still funtions like new dispite being beat to hell and back. I can see why people like them so much.
My Wilton came with a couple of rough copper blocks cobbled onto it for soft jaws. I took them out, re-machined them true and checkered them on the Atlas shaper. Also restored the entire vise while I was at it. Mine was not a dumpster find... I mentioned Wilton Vises to my wife once and she bought this one for me as a Christmas present. She's good like that.
Hi Steve, Dont need to google Gods County *Dorset* as i am lucky enough to live here. Stunning country - Best in England. Definitely worth a visit. Yours Andy
I beleive those are oak leaves, i sure theres 100 comments stating the same thing but im going to say it anyways lol. I know someone that found the big wilton bullet vise in a dumpster, like new!!! Came out of a school bus garage. So jealous of his find. He doesnt even know what hes got! Good find. I love those vises as well i have a 1942 with plenty of scars and still opens as smooth as the day it was made. Jaws came out beautiful, good work as always!!
Cool project. I have an old Starrett vise I need to make jaws for. It's funny the things that metal fabricators see. I could tell that your bandsaw blade has missing teeth behind the weld seam due to the slight jump the blade makes when it hits it.
Think this might be the first time I've seen bronze worked on a shaper. Not sure why that would be. What a find on that Noga! 90 buck holder for 5 bucks! Wow! Only in a thrift store. Nice gift Matthew. Great to see a project that fits nicely in a single episode. Thanks Steve!
Bob Ross of Machining. Who has a big *** contraption in their garage 😀. Thanks Steve. The Willet bullet vises are slick. I found a Parker 974 from a basement of Fall River MA estate sale. Looks like it came out of a closed factory here. Its old and works fine but missing a jaw. For amateur tinker , Parker is long gone so left trying to hunt down a replacement jaw off a parts vise or find a machine guy nearby or most likely pass it on to someone who can fix and enjoy. Cheers
It's good fortune that you found that treasure amongst all that trash. Didn't enjoy you breaking that drill bit, but used it as a teaching moment. Shows we all make mistakes and learn from them.
It's a pin made for the traditional German Huntsman's hat. It looks like pheasant, shotgun, hunters backpack and oak leafs. The "hairs" around the pin are usually off a deer.
It seems that the shaper might be the quickest way to make those vice jaws. I love that you can just use HSS cutters in the shaper - It makes the tooling aspect of owning a shaper a very inexpensive endeavor.
Way back in the 60s an old timer in the tool room machine shop taught me to dull the drill bit a little to stop the grabbing of brass and bronze while drilling it.
Thanks Steve. Nice work. I know the feeling, I found a Wilton "baby bullet" at a yard sale. I don't think it had ever been used. Everything about it is identical to the full size ones. It was $5, needless to say, I started a friction fire.
Lots of good items can be found discarded in the trash. I have found and, refurbished or repaired the electronics products of my dreams discarded curbside. 😎😎
I use good old fashioned, home made rawhide on all my vice jaws. You can get it on line or make your own. I like mine better as it has a bit extra softer material on the inside skin. I have a vireo on how to do smaller batches on my channel. There is little to no cost aside from a bit of 3/4 plywood and a few screws to make a drying/streaching board. Once dry, I cut jaw sized pieces to make a face and a top L shape and and glue them together with crazy type glue. Then use rubber school type glue to easily fix them on the vice so they can be easily taken off. They are great but I have never welded close to mine but for everything else they really shine. Lathe jaws too. My primary use is holding the silver pieces I make for file and sanding work. I was pricing vises the other day and was amazed at how expensive they are now. This was an amazing opportunity for you. These new jaws are better than anything I have ever seen. Well done laddy !
Hi Steve 28:45, looks like Oak leaves to me. The green part looks like a thistle head, so a stab in the dark, leads me to speculate that this is a commemoration of the Glorious twelfth, ( 12th of August), which is the start of the red grouse shooting season in the UK. Best wishes, Mal.
RSVP that drill bit. Good reminder that it's not just the tiny ones that break easily. Anyway, it's a nice looking result. Bet the originals didn't come out of the factory looking half as good. But then again, it is easy to get a nice finish on bronze.
Nice work on the jaws. I do hand chiseling on brass door knobs and steel vise jaws would ruin my work. I found lead way too soft. It ends up embedded in my work. Instead I go to my local tire shop and get scrap lead and zinc wheel weights. Nowadays there are lots of steel weights. Only the lead/zinc work. I made a steel mold for soft jaws that slip over my vise jaws. I cast about 5 sets at a time. When they are too deformed to use I just remelt them and they are good as new.
Excellent jaws. I located a 5" Wilton not long ago. Not as cheap as yours, but still several hundred less than retail. It had not been used at all. That's my dumpster find, I guess. lol Thanks.
It looks like a badge that people wore if they went to shoots for pheasant during the shooting season. The leaf looked like an English oak leaf Steve although I would have thought you'd recognise it. But those are my thoughts on that 'badge'.
Steve, in regard to the stand(s) for your metal saw, you might want to have a look at Kurtis from Cutting Edge Engineering here in Oz, he does BIG work and recently made up a set of stands but I am sure you could use his design of course scaled down to suit your application. Enjoy your content look forward to it each week
I heard of a guy that has a DoAll horizontal bandsaw that they are repairing. It has a built in table for over length parts. Maybe you should contact him. His name is Steve Summers. I think he lives nearby. Good luck.
you may like the patina but i would hit it lightly with a sandblast to brighten it up - it will re-patina and you will get a lot of use out of the vise - you are putting the shop to good use and the tools are the heart of the operation (as well as the know how) thanks for the content! #close
I see you already have the swivel base. Very nice. Now look jealous mine was given to me by a friend but didn't get that base it is old but works great. It is a Prentiss vice, bull dog no. 92. Made in New York. Will wait to comment AFTER the video.
I pick up things “of value “ that I see on the road or trash, and my wife finds it funny to point out large stray bolts on the side of the road just as I am pulling away from them. Saying wow did you see that bolt at the stop light, I’ll bet it was worth at least $3 while laughing at me.
I googled West Germany hunting badge and looked at image results and saw other badges with the same green outer part, some etsy results and one on ebay for $220! What a cool find
I have the same exact Schiller Park 1971 Wilton 3.5" Vice Model 101020 that was in service for many years in a High School Metal Shop. lots of Patina and "Abuse". I am restoring it with the decision right now being do I keep the Patina and put it back in service or make it look "new"..... I have settled on keeping it as it looks with all the love put on it by young learners.... I work at the high school and this was destined for the scrap pile for similar reasons it was stuck fast and had 4 layers of paint.
Patience and attentiveness encourages low cost treasure finds. I have a long list of similar value treasures found unexpectantly. I enjoy using mine or passing them on to others. I pucjed up 2 identical Wilton vises (without the swivel bases) for $35 each. I am guessing that they were school shop surplus judging by 8-10 various colors of paint slopped on them. They were better than average gifts to 2 of my boys. One has been repainted at least once and has lived on the back of 2 or 3 of his service trucks. It is essentially his daily user. My "restoration" required paint removal and fresh paint. I didn't have to do any mechanical wirk besides cleaning. My son spends many thousands of dollars annually on new tools and equipment. A $35 vise is laughable to him, but he has never upgraded that Wilton truck vise.
Steve, it is Hunting-hat pin. The German hunting hat, a typical design, are often dressed with feathers and ornate pins to hold them to the hat. Try google "silberne Jagd Hutnadel mit Fasan, Eichenlaub und Jagdgewehr"
Now I think I need a Shaper, in the event I want to make some new jaws for the vises I have. Curious if the ways on that Cincinnati were rescraped? They looked fantastic! Thanks for the videos.
An interesting tidbit of History when Fletcher Christian ran the HMS Bounty aground at Pitcairn Island in 1790 one of the things he salvaged was the vice from the ship. Today that vice is still being used by the descendants of the island. (a short film called "Pitcairn Island Today " circa 1938 references this vice)
Another super crowd funding idea is to get a sofa for the poor dogs to lie on away from being rained on with machining chips? They shouldn't lie on concrete as the cement dust is alkaline and can cause sores. BTW the hole in Steve's jeans is getting bigger and I worry that they will soon stand up on their own!
Hey Steve - great vid. Re: the serrations on the jaws being too sharp. I'm wondering why you didn't go back over it with the shaper and take another couple mils off the top to blunt the points? Conversely, you could've also changed the angle and/or spacing of the serrations and accomplished the same thing without sacrificing the thickness of the jaws. Do you think the sharpness of the serrations will mar your future projects? Thanks!
RE: Band saw. Something else you might consider is building a base with casters so you can easily move the saw around the shop or push it into a place where it is out of the way.
The snow gave it away that you recorded this a while ago, I was thinking how can you be doing that instead of working on Johnny Cash I'm aleady looking forward for next week.
