DUNE Part 3: What's Next & Book Changes - Dune: MESSIAH Explained! 

Paul said to his mother that chani will come to understand ive seen it. So im sure she will eventually come back.

The framing and cinematography was top notch on this film! Most outstanding for me were for me the simple and so powerful sound effects. It's amazing to see how quiet the movie is, and still brings so much emotions.

Alia talking smack to the Reverend Mother in Dune 1984. Love that!

I really like the idea that he genuinely was in love with chani and fully intended to push the fremen to free themselves, but was pushed into this path to try to take the pass of lesser evil.

I always liked the last line of the first book when Jessica tells Chani that history will call them wives. It was clear that Paul was setting up Irulan and using her to gain power.

If a third movie is made, I REALLY hope we get to see a guild navigator.

I think what Villeneuve is doing is brilliant. He is staying true to the source material, while also giving us book readers a twist that makes sense. He is showing us things that the book merely glanced over; and, if people really want to know more, all they have to do is read the books. These movies are expanding on the books. If the first 15-20 minutes of Part 3 is a Holy War in space and on different planets spanning 10 years-15 years, the movies can stay in line with the books timeline. An opening montage would totally work. It can also show Chani coming back to Paul, and the Bene Gesserit influencing Irulan to sabotage Paul and Chani relationship. When Messiah is released and successful, I wouldn't mind Villeneuve stepping down as director; but, staying on as producer, and hand picking the next Director. Maybe Jonathan Nolan? He did a killer job with Westworld Season One. An unknown Director, that Villeneuve trusts, could also be an awesome fit. I also want to See Jason Mamoa again as Duncan Idaho.

Paul does not fear the "Golden Path" due to the billions of deaths, as they will already happen with the Jihad that he started to solidify his position as new Emperor. Infact, Paul didn't start the "Golden Path" at all. The "Golden Path" is a vision of the future with the intention to save humanity as a whole and it would take millennia to accomplish and it would require from Paul to give up his humanity completely to make it happen. This is what he couldn't bring himself to do he was not ready to become a god like immortal entity so that he could actually create this path for humanity. So in the end it was his son Leto II. who actually did it by becoming the God Emperor.

People are forgetting the two branching timelines Paul sees in the book. One where he stands over the Baron saying “hello, grandfather”. And that timeline haunted him to his core. Thats the timeline we are seeing in the movies i believe. A timeline where Paul takes the Water of Life 2 years earlier etc etc

I hope part 3 really spend time showing the tremendous death toll of Paul's Jihad on the conquered planets ,and on the fremen.

That you so much for explaining the blue thing with chani. Had no idea

Im so excited to see the next part. Im already hooked in some Dune lore videos on RU-vid. A couple years ago watching Dune 1 was quite problematic because I was struggling with following the plot because of the freaking names. This time I was prepared and understood the entire story immediately

Just seen it again. Absolute masterpiece. Can’t wait for part 3. Also it’s crazy how Zendaya has similar roles and is the key to saving Spidey in the end, and now Paul with her Love. She is The One lol

I would like to see the Dune prequel trilogy that outlines the human-machine war, The Butlerian Jihad, The Machine Crusade, and the Battle of Corrin. I listened to those audiobooks when I was commuting to and from work and really enjoyed them. There are plenty of battles and political intrigue/scheming would be a perfect fit.

Thanks for diving into this. You made things much more clear.

Will be interesting to see how the ghola 'Hayt' is depicted as a Zensunni mentat/philosopher and whether he will have metallic eyes as well. In the book, this version of the character was depicted as quite mild mannered in comparison, as he was not trained as a warrior.

this the vid ive been waiting for. thank you

Given Alias age in that flashforward. One massive time jump at the very least

Thank you for acknowledging the changes. Big fan of the book, so it was notable when they completely changed the ending. Great point with the blue scarf, never even thought about it. I think chani will come back to Paul. There is a reference in the end of the book about powerful women. Alia shouldn’t be a problem in the time jump. Remember because of the water of life, she grows faster than her actual chronicle age. 1984 dune mentioned this quickly, it’s talked about in the books. So even though she was 2-3 chronically, she looked like a 7-8 year old. Same can be true with Anya playing this character. With the time jump she can be anywhere from 12-14 years old, but look like a fully grown adult.

Chani is not going to lead a faction against Paul. That would be a huge and unecessary change. She is going to help redeem Paul by having his children.

Me not knowing anything about Dune “man these movies are amazing. I cannot wait for the next one!” Me after reading up on the lore “uhhh… think im good actually…”

Dude, your video rocks !!! Keep going !!!

As mentioned, there is so much material in the Dune Universe. The six primary books, and also the Brian Herbert prequels and sequels (a love\hate issue for the book readers), that would all be great movie material. Momentum seems to be building here. There is an opportunity to make this a new Sci Fi film franchise. That kind of opportunity is very rare. It would be an enormous waste by the studio for long-term success and profit to stop after 3 movies - just a third of the primary Frank Herbert books.

First off, I just wanna say kudos to you for giving shoutouts to your editors. It may seem like a small thing, but editors matter, the people working behind the scenes matter and they deserve to have credit and they deserve the chance to gain a reputation and maybe move on to larger better paying projects. So often everyone from big companies to small businesses think that if they give their employees recognition and fair pay that they'll get 'big heads' and demand more (or just demand to be paid in line with the value of their work.) I get that especialy for a small channel (wait ... 1.58 million subs... did not relaize how big this channel was) it can be hard to pay people as much as you might want to. I have no idea what your pay structure is but at least giving people credit for their work is fantastic from an ethical point of view. Secondly, thanks for this video. I've been watching a few (actually this is the second one) about the future plot of Dune books. I've thought of reading them, but a friend of mine who's read them mentioned to me that, "Yeah they're great, but the author was definitely homophobic. There's some queer stuff in it, but it's all bad." So I don't think I really want to put the effort into reading them. (Also, while I pay be tempted to end my books on a sour note when I write them, fuck if I wanna read that!) I do think that the mythos and what not of Dune seems really interesting and definitely subversive. But I also wouldn't be surprised if moving on any future adaptations have to change more and more of the plot to make it coherent. When you have casted actors that the audience loves, it can be much less motivating to show up to the next movie. I wondered if Dune Messiah might need to be two movies but I just looked up the word count, it's less than half the size of the first book so I guess they could probably make that into one movie. Ultimately these are being made by WB so they'll probably milk the franchise until it's dead.

I fear that a film adaptation of anything beyond Paul’s story will just be weird.

In a weird way. Pauls new army is like the clones in Star Wars

It wasn't just the war that killed 60 billion people. A lot of the deaths are due to Paul's control over the Spacing Guild through his control of Spice. The Spacing Guild has a monopoly on interstellar travel because they're the only ones who can safely navigate folded space. And they do it with Navigators who have been mutated by the Spice, and these Navigators need Spice to survive. So by controlling the Spice, Paul can force the Spacing Guild to cut off entire worlds from trade, starving them out. This is a big part in how he's able to fight against the Great Houses, their armies can't do anything without the Spacing Guild to transport them to different planets. They'll probably have to make a longer time jump. In the book, Alia is around 16. If they plan on having Anya Taylor-Joy play Alia, she's not going to be 16. So I think either Dune Messiah movie will start like 20 - 22 years after Dune part 2 or they'll put a time jump in Dune Messiah where it starts 12 years after part 2 and then have a time jump to 8 or 10 years later.

Dune is so darn hard to adapt to film since so much of the conflict is internal/philosophical or behind the scenes as plots within plots, so there a lot of side characters with their own agendas & motivations as well as thousands of years of history. It's a lot to get on screen in a film.

I have a feeling that the next movie is going to be a merging of Messiah and Children of Dune.

Please don’t wait too long. My father (a MASSIVE fan of the franchise) died of cancer between the initial intended release date of part 1 and the actual release date. Watching it with him was something I was desperate to do. :( Take the time you need to make a fantastic product. But we are entrusting you with so much more than just a movie. This is a legacy. And so far you haven’t let us down.

All I got to say is good luck wrapping up Leto story. That's the big one that no one can ever finish explaining.

Spice krispies shirt is 🔥 had to grab one

Part two was so amazing!!!

Alia appearing that mature after only 12 years is possible. In the book she exhibits accelerated growth/development as a result of her exposure to the Maker's Water in the womb.

Paul's destiny sounds very so similar to the character of Eren from the anime Attack on Titans😮

The Dune Movies have been incredible so as long as the story and production are good, I could see this story continuing.

I love the Spice Krispies Shirt! Any way to get shipment to Europe without a parcel forwarding service?

Bless The Maker and his Work!

At 12:12 "Remember that spider creature from the first film?" How could anyone forget!?

I don't remember any of this about nukes being outlawed. All the Houses of the Laandsrad had a nuke stockpile. It was an insurance policy.

Great video!

In dune saga there's no heros, just a man who acts in heroic deads as long as it is destined for him, then he or they would become evil at a deferet time... that goes for everything lerally, even the worms themselves. The story emphasizes the fixed destiny aspect alot.

Another two parter please!

I didn’t know MAX was going to do a prequel series based on Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson’s prequel books! Are we going to eventually get to see the Machine Crusade and all that rich history on the small screen? I just got way too excited lol

I love how all these breakdowns say different things about Paul's choices and if he's the hero or the villain of the story

Have a feeling they will split the next movie into two parts, and add even more things that were not in the books. BTW: what did Chani think would happen after they defeated the Harkonnen? No one will ever come back to recolonize Dune? Paul is taking care of the next problem before it happens.

Based on the movie version of things, Paul starts the holy war or the Fremen are wiped out...if Chani comes to understand that maybe it's better than the alternative. It's all up for grabs with the changes made lol

sr thank you for the amazing video, i just finished dune 2 and thanks to your explanation i can sleep well.

One of the best reviews ever

Always want more Dune!

XD i just realized the dog calls you person XD

Every video I’ve seen so far has talked about Paul’s “betrayal” to Chani. Now I have never read the books but the idea I got from the film was Paul was doing that to protect her. He has seen images of her dying and I was wondering if he followed the path of marrying irulan to prevent Chani’s death. Many times during the end of the movie Paul made eye contact with Chani almost evidence he still cares for her. The more obvious evidence is when he says he will love her until his last breath.

Paul is never the villain Darth Vader was. Rather he is a victim of his own knowledge. He has to play the part of Emperor for a bit to make the golden path happen but he hates it It’s hard to believe the third movie will really make Channi his enemy. That would be d really warp the books. But she is the enemy of Imperial Court, Ireland and its intrigue. Her and Paul will reconcile but neither of these characters is meant to survive. The movies cast them as the main characters of the Dunverse but readers of the series know they are not. The story isn’t about a hero, it’s about the evolution of a society and the factions that make it up. It’s about the transformation of humanity, the golden path and an external threat that sadly the author didn’t survive to build out.

My biggest gripe with the Part Two is the time span between Paul escaping into the desert and his confrontation with the Emperor. In the books Alia was about four during the showdown with the Emperor meaning Paul had about 5 years to learn the Fremen ways, bond with them, fall in love and nourish his relation with Chani, accelerate the terraformation of Dune (which is also a huge part of why the Fremen were so devoted to him) and then rally the people, annoy the Harkonnen and scare the crap out of the rest of the universe enough to incite an open war with the empire. In Part Two he did all of this in less then 9 months. Jessica was "a few weeks" into the pregnancy before the Treason and was still pregnant during the finale...

I just need the half worm emperor to happen on the big screen.

Chani says go south, Paul says no. Again Chani says go south. Paul says no, everything will go to sh*t if i do. Paul eventually goes south and then the holy war begins. Love is blindness.

I really wanted to see more navigators and the voice modules

Chani doesn't 'leave' Paul, she goes south and knows that Paul marries Irulan as a political convenience, not a love match, Chani will always have his heart and will have his children, Irulan gets nothing physical/emotional. I'm so pleased that you are pointing out the differences so I don't have to rant on, thank you! The film(s) are really well made, the books are infinitely better. I think Alia of the Knife could have been included, she killed Baron Harkonnen in the book, in the film she's still in utero!!!! It's a pity that the Guild Navigators were completely omitted too!

Bro this editing has me dying 😂😂😂😂

I have been saying all week that I think Villeneuve is making a composite character out of Chani and Korba. The biggest key to me is that in Part 2, Chani refers to herself as one of the Fedaykin. In the book, NONE of the Fedaykin were female. Also, Korba was completely absent from the movie, whereas he was prominent enough in the book to have been included in both the 1984 film AND the 2000 miniseries . . . and of course, he had a major part to play in the Dune Messiah portion of the Children of Dune miniseries. I believe that Chani will come back into Paul's trust, for better or for worse. For very specific reasons, Paul will not allow Irulan to have any children, and the twins have to be born. And as the host mentions here, Irulan does participate in the conspiracy against Paul in Dune Messiah, however, Paul forgives her - and he does so for even more very specific reasons having to do with her wanting to bear his heir, and what she does in her attempts to bring that to pass . . . and the inadvertent side effect of those attempts. The heartbreaking decision Paul makes at the end of the second book will carry more dramatic weight if it follows Chani fulfilling not only her role as outlined in the book, but Korba's role, as well.

It will hurt me so much to wait for the next decade for Messiah...

What is the show/movie that you show during the ending 'spoiler' section of the video??

In the book Alia kills Baron Harkonnen which drove her mad as an adult. This is an important plot thread that I’m wondering if that will even be included now

I sac-religiously watched it on put locker cuz I couldn’t wait and it was still amazing

Haven’t read the books, but from what little I’ve seen in some of the “Lore Videos”, I wonder how much Acid Frank Herbert took while writing the series? A Worm person thing?? I love the movies, and they make sense all on their own (if you have an imagination).

Looking forward to seeing a giant half-worm, half-man on IMAX in the next movie

Please review Cabrini. The most empowering and uplifting movie I've seen in a long time.

This would be even better as a series.

hi Ryan what is the name of movie you used at the end of this video during explanation of chani twins?

This video was awesome

The dune books are incredible

MORE DUNE!!!!!!

The ultimate fan service, chair dogs, please.

Given Chani is the mother of all Pauls children and the children are the most important future characters, not sure how she does not come back

The introduction of clones will give us Duncan Idaho back and alit of them. Still yah boy was the man in number 1 dude killed like 10 Sardukar

I would love to see all the way up to chapterhouse the Frank Herbert ones finished

Duncan Idaho resurrection will be dope

If they make “Messiah” I really hope they make films up to “Children of Dune”, while “Messiah” ends *somewhat* hopeful it’s also a bummer in a lot of ways. “Children” could be a good stopping point for the films though, as “God Emperor” is really weird and may be the most difficult to adapt to screen. “Messiah” can be done in one film, as it’s the shortest book in the series. Then we could close out the series with another two-parter in “Children”, nice and symmetrical.

Please review Cabrini--we thought it was excellent!

After all is said and done, someone in the boardroom whispers, "Dune Multiverse"

Thanos must have read the Dune series :P

What were the other dune clips inserted from??

do you guys have vidieos like this but with spoilers instead?

Just watched dune for the 2nd time, I can't wait for the 3rd movie

More Dune. Please. Always

I’m so sure that Leto the worm god is the voice we hear at the start of the movies. I really want to eventually see this on screen

The pregnancy part makes sense because we didn’t need their love scene in the movie otherwise- I felt like it was dropped in & could have been without

The problem is you are getting further and further from the books They shouldn't mess with the Masterpeices that the books were.

10:13 don't worry that will not be the guide. that would be starwars level writing

I think Chani will play John Snow role in GOT. It will be hillarious

Jessica: Alia go to your room! Alia: But I am in my room..

Do you think Chani leaves? I got the impression that at the very end, she hesitates about riding the sand worm and leaving Paul.

This man doesn’t miss

lmfao best bit in the entiere video right HERE 1:37 ALSO how we dune fans feel about the movies

Chani literally not wanting a white saviour.

Has someone contacted Jason Momoa for endless sequels?!

Loved ones having to kill on or the other bc one has gone bad is what I wanted for Star Wars with Rey & Finn

Paul is a tragic hero though, the birth of Leto Atreides II and him seeing the golden path is literally what saves humanity.

Will the prequel show the Butlerian Jihad?

I loved the movie Dune from the first time I saw the original movie when I was 10 yrs old