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Dune: Part Two is the Sci-Fi Masterpiece of the Decade 

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@filmconduit
@filmconduit 7 месяцев назад
This was one of the most exhilarating theatrical experiences I’ve ever had. That excitement to watch a long awaited blockbuster, and then for it to deliver and surpass its predecessor in every aspect is a rare thing.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
Happy to hear!
@Dan_Yerlll
@Dan_Yerlll 7 месяцев назад
Its empire strikes back
@OBDPVCR
@OBDPVCR 6 месяцев назад
Nah Dune 1 was way more of a vibe. The cinematography, pacing, sound design and score was better executed. Dune 2 needs an extended edition
@Dan_Yerlll
@Dan_Yerlll 6 месяцев назад
@@OBDPVCR naw sorry Dune 2 improved in all of those categories!
@BaconbuttywithCheese
@BaconbuttywithCheese 6 месяцев назад
@@OBDPVCR Couldn't agree more. I really hope Dennis has a 5-hour edition up his sleeve.
@thomasbaxter1371
@thomasbaxter1371 7 месяцев назад
Paul's attraction to Chani doesn't appear to be too quick in Part 2 when you take into account that he has been dreaming of her for the whole of the first movie.
@sieraclayton1503
@sieraclayton1503 7 месяцев назад
Well, he has been dreaming of her. But he knows that she has Not been dreaming of him. He acts accordingly - despite his knowledge of their Future loving relationship. Paul's attraction to her happens in Part One of Denis' DUNE years ago. That shock of recognition and that near immediate softening of Paul's features and even slackening of combat readiness after Chani removes her mask and tells him she would, "not have let you hurt [my] friends" is noteworthy. That little smile that plays around Paul's lips after Chani says, "This is only the beginning," then turns to continue walking away after Paul and his Mom are surprised at seeing a Fremen riding a sandworm for the first time, is telling, too. Paul's knowing smile shows that he is looking forward to them expressing romantic feelings. Paul and Chani's sweetly awkward, warmth-building hug in DUNE:PART 2, when All the Fremen hug Paul after he chooses a Fremen name is beautifully nuanced acting by both Timothee' and Zendaya portraying their characters with an impressive deftness/sensitivity in showing shyness about their characters' growing affection and chemistry. Paul and Chani beautifully "dance" together in a gorgeously coordinated sand walk. Later, when Paul looks at Chani with such impressed delight and gentle longing when she shows him how that wind device works one evening, that she feels compelled to tell him to "stop looking at [me] like that," it's so indicative of her beginning to recognize how Paul clearly feels about her. And Paul & Chani later finally kiss on a sand dune when the sun is low. Then we even later see them after "the throes of passion" in their tent, when they are lovingly whispering in the afterglow to each other. And then later, what Timothee and Zendaya' call their favorite scene together of all - in which Chani tenderly comforts Paul when he awakens after a nightmare. Their love builds/grows organically. Again, Paul always knew they were made for each other and would have a great love, but, again, Chani does not realize that at first. Paul woos her with that in mind - so they would come together naturally at a normal expected pace.
@ravissary79
@ravissary79 7 месяцев назад
Yeah but it never developed into this deep humanizing grounded romance. She's a bit infatuated and then massively pissy.
@micharalane7277
@micharalane7277 7 месяцев назад
@@sieraclayton1503Wow. This was so beautifully, tastefully captured. Thank you!
@SnakeWasRight
@SnakeWasRight 7 месяцев назад
Exactly
@tracyb64
@tracyb64 7 месяцев назад
@@sieraclayton1503Such an AWESOME analysis by you concerning their romance, especially when she joins him on the dunes and helps train him. That Zimmer score was insane! One of my favorite scenes!👍🏽😃
@combatwombat2134
@combatwombat2134 7 месяцев назад
The whole period of the film of Geidi Prime, the arena and the scenes around it, was easily one of the most sublime film experiences ever. Possibly the most. Later, when the Emperor's ship flies over the desert and reflects the ground, I was just blown away. It looked jaw dropping.
@jermpang7
@jermpang7 7 месяцев назад
two of the craziest sequences! ugh i can't get over this movie!
@dgour2004
@dgour2004 6 месяцев назад
I wish it made the sound it made in the commercial.
@1neOfN0ne
@1neOfN0ne 7 месяцев назад
That shot in the beginning with the Harkonenns floating up the hill was when I knew I was about to witness something monumental. It looked like ants going up an ant hill. Just brilliant
@Lgrodo
@Lgrodo 7 месяцев назад
This
@George-um2vc
@George-um2vc 6 месяцев назад
Yeah there was something about that scene, I knew my money was well spent
@jessienoellerae1157
@jessienoellerae1157 6 месяцев назад
YES
@hvitekristesdod
@hvitekristesdod 6 месяцев назад
The use of brownscreen made this sequence seamless
@stephensherwood3640
@stephensherwood3640 6 месяцев назад
Same
@jamesstanley7824
@jamesstanley7824 7 месяцев назад
paul's monologue gave me chills man!! best movie i've seen in theaters for a long time!!
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
🔥🔥
@BigKnecht
@BigKnecht 6 месяцев назад
The way he pulled up to the southern fremen was one of the hardest things I've ever seen in a movie. I didn't think Timmy had it in him.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
@@BigKnecht that theme 🤌
@profoundresolve
@profoundresolve 6 месяцев назад
FEAR THE MOMENT
@slobodanmarkovic1983
@slobodanmarkovic1983 5 месяцев назад
maybe you should visit theaters more :D
@romankotas448
@romankotas448 7 месяцев назад
Even small moments like the the Harkonen soldiers lifting off the ground to scale an escarpment was just breathtaking
@sieraclayton1503
@sieraclayton1503 7 месяцев назад
That scene got pulses racing with its sudden, unexpected beauty.
@antfaz
@antfaz 6 месяцев назад
I’ve never heard the word “escarpment”, what a great word!
@jsiqueblue4948
@jsiqueblue4948 6 месяцев назад
When Paul put the his father's ring on and Gurdy slightly smiles and is proud gave me chills.
@MourningCoffeeMusic
@MourningCoffeeMusic 7 месяцев назад
Me whenever I see a new video essay or breakdown of Dune: *THE SPICE MUST FLOW*
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
🤤🤤🤤🤤
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564 7 месяцев назад
Walked out of the cinema and immediately ordered the book! I cant get enough of it, im already halfway through. What a movie!!! 5⭐️
@woo1818
@woo1818 7 месяцев назад
Keep in mind that the books are dense. They don’t really “get good” until Children of Dune and God Emperor. That shits crazy.
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564 7 месяцев назад
@@woo1818 im already enjoying the first book so i cant wait to read the others!
@sparioch9841
@sparioch9841 7 месяцев назад
be ready for a VERY different story. this Movie dropped the ball.
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564 7 месяцев назад
The shot when paul is walking in slowmotion in front of the worms is my favorite shot of the movie
@angelespinoza9917
@angelespinoza9917 7 месяцев назад
Hell yea mine is when he is stepping over the cliff and Gerni calls for the missles
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564
@rhinovaneeckhoudt9564 7 месяцев назад
@@angelespinoza9917 man there are so many sick shots, its actually insane
@clinteastwood14896
@clinteastwood14896 7 месяцев назад
Tough guys don't look at sandworms
@Corusame
@Corusame 6 месяцев назад
My head canon says because now he can see all possible future's he can walk across worm territory normally without fear of being eaten.
@monkitaa4praia864
@monkitaa4praia864 7 месяцев назад
That climb by the Harkonenn’s was one of my favorite shots in the entire movie. Jaws on the floor and it didn’t close until credits rolled.
@fractal_gate
@fractal_gate 7 месяцев назад
Which part was that again?
@Lgrodo
@Lgrodo 7 месяцев назад
​@@fractal_gateat the very beginning of the movie. Then they drop like Flys, literally lol.
@fractal_gate
@fractal_gate 7 месяцев назад
Oh yeah, it was great. Old-fashioned wirework beats CGI.@@Lgrodo
@Jo_77259
@Jo_77259 5 месяцев назад
Was one of the few interesting parts of the movie.
@StefunnyStrange
@StefunnyStrange 7 месяцев назад
“If I was making the movie, I would’ve started it like that too so I’m basically Denis Villeneuves.” You guys are hilarious. 😂 Subscribed.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 6 месяцев назад
When Paul gave is council speech, that was the best scene in the movie for me
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
🤌🤌
@MichaelLaFrance1
@MichaelLaFrance1 7 месяцев назад
People keep saying Dune 2 'was as good as Dune.' It was not. It was far better, in fact, it was one of the best films ever made. The theater experience of Dune 2 was amazing. It was quite literally the best experience I've ever had at a movie, and I'm old. I had a similar feeling at the premier of Star Wars, because it was so revolutionary at the time, but this exceeded that.
@cara_cola11
@cara_cola11 5 месяцев назад
So true. Well said. 👌
@jacobcastillo4983
@jacobcastillo4983 7 месяцев назад
I went and saw this Friday with my 85-year-old grandfather and my mom and I was beyond blown away. I left the theater thinking I had just seen the greatest movie of all time I’m sure it’s a little recency bias but it just hits on every single note and filmmaking aspect. Also Feyd-Rautha is the monster we needed
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
🙌🙌🙌🙌
@abhilashpattar7137
@abhilashpattar7137 6 месяцев назад
What did your grandfather think of dune 2?
@mattyg906
@mattyg906 7 месяцев назад
what a picture, my only complaint is that it wasnt longer lmao. 5/5 lead them to paradise
@MichaelLaFrance1
@MichaelLaFrance1 7 месяцев назад
I went into the movie wondering if it might be too long. By the end, I wished it had another hour.
@mattturner7531
@mattturner7531 7 месяцев назад
Denis set the bar high early in the film with the suspensor activation of the Harkonnens field squad -- created an eerie cat and mouse game, with all this modern tech - it was suspenseful and beautiful at the same time.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
🤌🤌
@1neOfN0ne
@1neOfN0ne 7 месяцев назад
"YOUR FEET?! YOU'LL BE LUCKY TO KEEP YOUR HEAD!" I love the whole exchange between Paul and the Emperor
@timmo971
@timmo971 6 месяцев назад
I think the best line was the second or third time Stilgar says “you see he’s humble, moadib would be humble” after Paul tries to genuinely deny the prophecy. It was almost funny a la Monty Python, Life of Brian… “Don’t follow me you’re all individuals” “yes, we’re all individuals”
@schrodingersjet1043
@schrodingersjet1043 5 месяцев назад
"I'm not!"
@Insipid42
@Insipid42 6 месяцев назад
The book came out in 1964! The year I was born. NOT the 50s. So, cool it with the "old" talk whipper snapper! JK, I know I'm old, just didn't expect to be reminded 2 minutes in.
@WARsportsWA
@WARsportsWA 6 месяцев назад
Dune created Star Wars. Star Wars was a huge hit it then opened the door to make huge sci-fi movies which then in turn eventually lead to a nearly perfect dune film to be made decades later.
@jasonleino590
@jasonleino590 7 месяцев назад
i couldn’t decide which was a better first viewing experience Oppenheimer or Dune Part 2…but then i immediately bought another ticket right after i got out of the theater. so i think the debate is settled. LOL
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
Niiiice
@molamola7093
@molamola7093 6 месяцев назад
The fireworks on Geidi Prime were one of the most beautifully unpleasant things I’ve seen on screen. I was both parts repelled and delighted.
@ryanwalsh6065
@ryanwalsh6065 7 месяцев назад
I liked when Paul thumped his chest before the Feyd Rautha fight, as if he were summoning his inner Shai Hulud
@ibanez9179
@ibanez9179 7 месяцев назад
Like Jamis before duel in part 1
@TerryBrand-f7d
@TerryBrand-f7d 5 месяцев назад
I hear ya. Paul is a hybrid (some foreshadowing about his ruling descendant, that). He uses both Caladan and Arrakis symbolic movements before combat.
@tsheporabekane4172
@tsheporabekane4172 5 месяцев назад
He was honouring his friend/mentor Jamis...
@iwyt3995
@iwyt3995 4 месяца назад
That may very well be just a Freman thing. They thump their chest twice to summon their inner Shai Hulud so that they are invoking their 'god' (because the worms are _revered_ in Freman culture) in order to be with them when they go to do battle.
@StefunnyStrange
@StefunnyStrange 7 месяцев назад
Denis is a film genius. I genuinely hope Hollywood takes this movie as a lesson in how to produce a blockbuster film. I hope big studios wake up to the fact that they need to start hiring film nerds again. Something all great directors have in common is that they are nerds and genuine lovers of film. I know directors like Denis are hard to find but you won’t find them by being so hyper focused on sending political messages through your movie or on hiring a diverse production. You dont make a film as amazing as Dune Part 2 without having a genuine love for film as an art and without being a complete nerd who cares about small details that the average film lover does not notice. Instead, it seems Hollywood is more focused recently on checking boxes. And I say this as a female and as a black person… before you accuse me of being racist or sexist. Denis was able to make diversity work smoothly because diversity was NOT the goal, making an excellent film and pleasing audiences was. It seems Hollywood no longer cares about the actual story or about the unique art of producing a film. We need to get back to that. I’m not saying hiring someone who is diverse is bad but that it should happen organically in making the best story possible. The ONLY boxes these studios should be checking is “Is this director amazing? Do they put time and care into creating a film? Do they pay attention to every minute detail? Do they genuinely care about the story or franchise they are adapting?” If the answer to those questions is yes, hire them. That’s how we find more directors like Denis, Tarantino, Nolan, Cameron, Scorsese, Spielberg, Anderson, Jackson and others. Stop trying to push messages and just hire great directors again. And then the messages that you care about will likely come out in the story naturally. And the production staff under great directors, which might include black, brown and female people, will learn from the work and craft of these greats, and go onto produce amazing films or shows of their own. Anyway, sorry for going off topic. I will end this by saying that I will always remember my first time watching this film and I plan to go back to watch again this weekend. Does anybody want to watch 2 kids so I can go? I don’t have a sitter.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
Send the kids over to the studio for the night!
@iamthesayyadina
@iamthesayyadina 7 месяцев назад
Bene Gesserit are able to control their bodies on a cellular level. So they can not only choose the sex of their child at conception, they can change the molecular structure of poisons rendering them non-toxic. Jessica does this to the Water of Life, which is still super concentrated spice essence which opens her up to receive the past lives Reverend Mother Ramallo gives her. And in the book she also is able to change the Water of Life itself for the spice ritual that the entire sietch participates in, which is when Paul and Chani first really get together.
@tsubasawingsresevoir
@tsubasawingsresevoir 7 месяцев назад
I saw this on IMAX the day after it came out. My god, it was an experience of a lifetime!🤩🤩🤩 and with a good audience too because everyone was glued to the screen and all of its glory!!! 🤯🤯
@laartwork
@laartwork 7 месяцев назад
I love the haters that struggle to be contrarians. "They changed Chani from the book!... for the way better. One said the music was generic...really? What other movie sounds like that? The movie is all sand color.... hmmm wonder why Best was a "professional reviewer" who wrote Rebel Moon was better. (Bro needs a new career)
@Bdavis2475
@Bdavis2475 5 месяцев назад
Rebel moon is a once in a decade masterpiece! Oh wait, I meant dune
@sugrless
@sugrless 7 месяцев назад
"May thy knife chip and shatter"
@adamsubtract81
@adamsubtract81 6 месяцев назад
* smiles * "May THY knife chip and shatter"
@greggibson33
@greggibson33 7 месяцев назад
It's not a sequel. It's the second half of the same story of the same book.
@laartwork
@laartwork 7 месяцев назад
Feel better?
@andersdenkend
@andersdenkend 6 месяцев назад
Good to see that these two movies bring new fans to the actual novels. The two kinda complement each other I think and once you are hooked on Dune, you kinda want to experience it in as many forms as possible, be it TV show, films, games or music, etc.
@TeddyOG
@TeddyOG 5 месяцев назад
Im glad you guys focused on that opening shot for a while, because while there is so many amazing shots in the movie, this got me in the world immediately. As someone who has been to Burning Man several times, experienced incredible amounts of dust and desert conditions, as well as taking shroom chocolate to see the film the first of many times, I felt like there was dust flying through my theater. It was so quiet but loud, and just the walking on the sand almost made my skin crawl. So well done and enthralling *And Im not just some druggy guy, Ive been an extra/actor on Ballers, a Chinese Doolittle series, and small films. It just hit me so hard even when I was sober and at the Imax that I have to speak about it regardless, but that first time was so mind blowing
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 5 месяцев назад
🫡🫡
@achohelelwhy
@achohelelwhy 7 месяцев назад
When you mentioned no sharp corners in the Giedi Prime architecture, I immediately pictured Baron Harkonnen getting stuck in a corner with his antigrav apparatus yelling "No more sharp corners!"
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@OgYokYok
@OgYokYok Месяц назад
The movie reflects real life in that you cannot level up until you drink the poisonous water of a baby maker.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ Месяц назад
Facts
@iRossco
@iRossco 6 месяцев назад
Loved Dune since I read as a Teenager many decades ago. Both Dune 1 & 2 are awesome movies and there are always Pros & Cons in any adaptation yet these were masterful. However, there were a couple of technical things I felt made it less 'realistic', one being the worms were as rigid as the studio floor with almost no movement & must have just farted for propulsion & riders not jerked around etc. Surfing would be harder than riding a sandworm. I think the 1984 movie was more 'realistic' on that point. A minor point I know & I've not seen any related comments.
@robertnguyen2025
@robertnguyen2025 6 месяцев назад
Very hard to fathom the Worms not having so much time in the movie..I agree with you ..Dune is the Epic series since I was a young kid..yet I am willing to sacrifice some part of the movies adaption for more Dune Universe ..remember the 1984 movie? Sound weapons was not in the book at all ..they the director adopted that since they didn't have the technology to make the Weiding way on film..Also in the new Dune movie..the Weiding way was never shown to the Freeman..Freeman was just a guerillas warrior..I wanted to see Paul train the 100 of his top Freeman Warriors and than they train the millions of Freeman Warriors on a epic scale...That woukd have been Epic
@SATD1999
@SATD1999 6 месяцев назад
I love how truly tragic Stilgar’s journey from seeing little signs of Paul being Lisan Al Giab, to the very end of the movie when he’s literally Estatic to go on a Jihad and kill billions all in the name of Paul
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
For real
@AdeptCharon
@AdeptCharon 6 месяцев назад
That baron backstory is a prequel thing and the "baron is massive because of a disease from the BG" aspect kind of undermines the entire concept of the character by Frank Herbert, which is that he is a glutton in every sense of the word. I tried reading 2 of the books by his son and it was exactly things like this that made me give up both times lol... well that and just the plots and writing feeling like lame fanfiction...
@DeanRockne
@DeanRockne 6 месяцев назад
The change to Chani's character is so important. The way she is in the film, she is a counter to the dark influences that Paul eventually embraces. She's there to seek freedom for her people, both from the empire and the bene geserits. At the end, he's there to seek personal revenge and acquire power for himself. Chani was with him right up until it became clear he valued the throne more than her people. By leaving, we better understand how far he's strayed. Chani is the hero of the movie, which is why she's the first person you hear speak in Dune 1.
@robertnguyen2025
@robertnguyen2025 6 месяцев назад
Not true..In the Book Chani doesn't have a lot of says in the book..she was more of a love interest for Paul..depends on the director decision ..In the 1984 movie..Chani has keys point in the film to sustain Paul ascension to the Messiah figure..but not much ..Paul ascension was more from his own struggle from within as he live with the Freeman for years but He still has visions that he is dead from within unless he step into the the next step and that is to take the water of life what is called to do and take the chances of dieing from the water or be the actual Messiah
@DeanRockne
@DeanRockne 6 месяцев назад
@@robertnguyen2025 "The change to Chani's character..." meaning not like the book.
@gloria7190
@gloria7190 7 месяцев назад
41:40 It’s a tomb! I’ts called memorial Brion, or Tomba brion, designed buy Carlo Scarpa. I live close to the area and I was very surprised to find out they shot Dune in a cemetery 😂 I guess you could say it’s an hotel! for dead people 😅😂
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
🤯🤯
@Marksman3434
@Marksman3434 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely enjoyed this film, though I don't think I'd consider it a masterpiece (but on a technical level it absolutely is). Maybe because I read the book, lol. I think the reason why so many purists of the book are a bit underwhelmed and confused by some changes in the film compared to the book is because we were expecting Part 2 to be an almost 1-for-1 adaptation of the 2nd half/lastThird of the book and that Villeneuve would finish his stint with Dune with Part 2, when in reality it seemed his plan all along was to make it a trilogy and include Messiah as its 3rd act, so I'm guessing some of the changes and plot threads that were left unresolved in Part 2 will be more relevant for the presumed Part 3. If one looks at it from that perspective, I feel better about the film and its changes, and will have a clearer opinion on Part 2 when Part 3 comes out. Surely lots of people probably felt the same way when Empire Strikes Back came out as they didn't expect it to be the middle act of a trilogy, and now it's considered arguably the best Star Wars film and one of the greatest sequels ever.
@5unny5ide
@5unny5ide 6 месяцев назад
The part that gets me is that it is, and it isn't a false faith. Without them, the golden path never is ttaken, and humanity dies. The idea that the faith the fremon observed is false is the biggest mistake made by everyone. Without their belief, humanity is ultimately ended and off the golden path.
@daltonbarrett4512
@daltonbarrett4512 7 месяцев назад
The greatest movie experience I have ever had and the imax was so damn perfect
@TastySnackies
@TastySnackies 6 месяцев назад
I feel incredibly privileged to watch Denis make the best sci-fi movies I’ve ever seen on the big screen, over the last seven years.
@SnakeWasRight
@SnakeWasRight 7 месяцев назад
My 2 complaints are that I expected more of the spice agony, like more trippy space and mind bending stuff. I do like the shots of alia being infused, and im fine with her being cut out as long as they do well with her in part 3. 2, Even in the book, I never felt Feyd was anywhere near a threat to Paul. They build him up by him killing totured and drugged prisoners and him being really ruthless. But, he never seems like a real challenge. He could have been built up more as a messiah type figure of his own and maybe had a little bit more to do. Like, maybe the bene gesserit could start training him in their ways, suspecting Muad Dib is Paul, and Feyd excelling in totally unexpected ways, maybe even him getting spice visions when he comes to Arrakis.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
valid points
@jeffreyroedel9804
@jeffreyroedel9804 7 месяцев назад
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't care at all about the changes from the book. And I've read the first Dune book. But so many reviews spend so much time talking about the differences between the novel and the movie and I find that conversation pretty boring. Thanks for this great review. I'm just interested in Dune the movies. Part 2 is an incredible work of art, and any story or character changes were for the best and served the story and the visual spectacle. In Villeneuve we trust!
@Bdavis2475
@Bdavis2475 5 месяцев назад
Me too. Even the author admitted problems with the original book, the main one being that he failed to hammer home that Paul isn't really a good person. He puts many comrades lives at risk for his personal revenge, even before drinking the water. Then he goes ahead with the genocide but he's too scared to stick around for the golden path. Herbert wrote it when he was young and I bet he would have liked most of the changes later on. I think the movie flowed very well overall
@sodathief
@sodathief 6 месяцев назад
So happy I saw this. I had to wait so long but saved this video for when I did see it. Very good channel. I liked the scene where harkonans stacked the siech
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@jaybain4337
@jaybain4337 6 месяцев назад
With you covering RM Mohiam, I just looked up older photos of Charlotte Rampling and she 100% looks like she could be mother to Rebecca Fergusen. Back in the 1960s, Rampling looked just like Fergusen (beautiful, same icy blue eyes) and scifi bonus - she was in the campy scifi classic "Zardoz" with Sean Connery.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
She was stunning
@KnarfStein
@KnarfStein 6 месяцев назад
She was a 60/70s icon!
@ChessVisualisationAcademy
@ChessVisualisationAcademy 6 месяцев назад
ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ an absolute masterpiece, a transcendent experience. Exceptional cinema 👏
@jasonvizcarra709
@jasonvizcarra709 6 месяцев назад
I loved part 2 but the 3rd act felt a bit rushed. Seems like a lot of scenes were cut to keep the film under 3 hours.
@adwmfilms
@adwmfilms 7 месяцев назад
Not even two hours long?? Unsubscribed!
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
WE HAVE FAILED YOU
@szpiegZkrainy
@szpiegZkrainy 6 месяцев назад
Question to You guys - Do you think "Dune 2" told the story, use, addiction and making of SPICE? Honestly, if I did not read the books - I would not fully understand, what "spice" is...
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
I think on repeat viewings it becomes more clear for new viewers
@robertnguyen2025
@robertnguyen2025 6 месяцев назад
Same here as well..I am a true follower of Dune since childhood.this movie it didn't focused too much on Spice and it's usage..Spice is what made the power struggle between The Emperor's ..Duke Leto and Baron Harkoneen ..Spice usage give power and influences ..But the Director decide to focused more on the Houses fighting over the Throne and loss of the throne for the Emperor
@robertnguyen2025
@robertnguyen2025 6 месяцев назад
Same here as well..I am a true follower of Dune since childhood.this movie it didn't focused too much on Spice and it's usage..Spice is what made the power struggle between The Emperor's ..Duke Leto and Baron Harkoneen ..Spice usage give power and influences ..But the Director decide to focused more on the Houses fighting over the Throne and loss of the throne for the Emperor
@AaronHatcher
@AaronHatcher 6 месяцев назад
While I love the movie and I absolutely do think it is a once in a generation type of masterpiece....I do think what needs to be discussed more are the themes and subtext that this movie, and the book are telling us. It's something that I hope people don't miss because they're too focused on the filmmaking aspect and also there's certain people that absolutely do not see the subtext or themes this movie or the book is taking aim at and they actually see Paul as a hero. (You may think the movie made it very obvious that he isn't at the end of the movie but um let's not act like a lot of people have critical thinking skills or media literacy in this country, we know they don't) I just think that the reason why the book is such a classic and is still so relevant is because it highlighted issues with our history as a country and the history of religion and the history of us on an individual level when it comes to how we percieve the world and how we percieve other socities in other countries etc. I just do hope that people dont repeat what they did when the book first came out and interpret the books points and ideas in the exact opposite of how it was wrote or intended. Herbert was so annoyed that people missed the whole point of his first dune book that he wrote dune messiah as a response to people that held Paul up as a hero to look up to.
@DjangoPorter
@DjangoPorter 7 месяцев назад
it was boring amd confusing and melow dramatic but was nice to look at
@PlainviewTWBB
@PlainviewTWBB 6 месяцев назад
Nice podcast guys, this is my first time tuning in and i gotta say that it was very interesting and fun to watch. Keep it up, you guys deserve way more recognition. And yeah... Dune part two is literally the best movie of all time.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! 🙏
@antonstarke
@antonstarke 7 месяцев назад
If they finish off the trilogy strong this could be the best trilogy made. However I think lord of the rings is the reigning champ right now.
@claykeough7898
@claykeough7898 7 месяцев назад
Definitely a masterpiece. My biggest gripe is overall surface level storytelling, especially with the villains and politics for us that haven't read the books. Also, the knife fight could have been extremely effective but did the very basic trope of protagonist injured and beaten but but antagonist getting too close and the whole who got who in the fatal stab moment. It's played out. This deserves a memorable death like when Anakin cuts count dookus hands and head off 😆 also, love Walken but he's just too famous for that small role and reveal as emperor. It makes it almost an snl parody seeing him in the dune universe without much to do
@gonaye1
@gonaye1 7 месяцев назад
Great discussion! I’ve seen it three times now (twice in IMAX)! Between this movie and the new Shogun mini-series it has been a truly AMAZING week for book adaptations! 🔥👍🏽🔥
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 7 месяцев назад
OMG yes! I love Shogun too! Best novel ever. I really felt so lucky this week. Got blown away by Dune then watched Dune again, then watched the first two episodes of Shogun. Can't wait for Tuesday's newest Shogun episode. I wish my local movie theatre would do a double feature of Dune I and Dune II. That's all I'm missing.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
@@SuperStella1111 🙌🙌
@tracyb64
@tracyb64 7 месяцев назад
Uh oh! After hear y’all and others talk about SHOGUN, gotta see it now! Seeing DUNE 3rd time in IMAX (1st time IMAX and 2nd time DOLBY) this Sat so gotta catch up!😂👍🏽
@GratifyMeNow13
@GratifyMeNow13 5 месяцев назад
Didn’t know Shogun was out as a mini series. It was a great book and I read all James Clavell books afterwards. Looking forward to watching it.
@scottrasso410
@scottrasso410 6 месяцев назад
The explanation of the infrared filmed sequences on Giedi Prime was perfect. Thank you. Subscribed!
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
🫡🫡
@MrMarcprudhomme1
@MrMarcprudhomme1 7 месяцев назад
There is two other differences that I think is important to notice one I like and one not so much but I understand the chsnge. The first one is, in the book Gurney doesn't kill Raban and Paul denies him the right to kill Fayed, even tho he promissed to him he would. Therefore he cannot have closure. So I really appreciate the change in the movie. The other change is that in the book, the fremen ask Paul and his mother to train them in the art of combat. It's the reason they don't kill them at first. This omission suck. I think it creates value for Paul to the Fremen at first.
@Borg434
@Borg434 6 месяцев назад
Best ever movie experiences: Jurassic Park The Matrix Dune pt2 And not necessarily in that order. An incredible job.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
Matrix for us too 🙏
@eudesgeoffroy8416
@eudesgeoffroy8416 7 месяцев назад
Villeneuve has no idea how to make a movie. He makes postcards. With this said, money makes wonders, so besides the usual marketing, the studio also bribed the YT streamers. Red thumb.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
I wish they bribed us 😂
@PimpinBassie2
@PimpinBassie2 7 месяцев назад
Unfortunately no weirding modules in part II
@Kyljys-pt4up
@Kyljys-pt4up 7 месяцев назад
That was one of the many dumb shit that Lynch came up with, either because he didn't understand the book or because he didn't respect it.
@Swerve-Online
@Swerve-Online 7 месяцев назад
Great movie. The only changes I didnt like were to Chani. Her book version was way better. Paul is about to save her people and free the planet and all she cares about is being a anti religious crybaby.
@RyanDesmond
@RyanDesmond 7 месяцев назад
A lot of people felt that Paul’s mother took a turn for the villainous after she drank the water of life. To me, it was bad ass prophetic. It’s like she saw the future and knew what was gonna happen, and was simply annoyed with Paul for not wanting to fulfill the inevitable. Imagine I could see the future and I saw you standing on the roof of the White House. So, I go talk to you and you say “The one place I don’t wanna go is the White House.” It might seem I’m a villain trying to get people to support “the journey to the White House.” And hey, if you don’t wanna go there it might seem that I’m you’re enemy. All I’m saying is “it’s gonna happen. It’s annoying you’re trying to avoid it.”
@InTheBannerOvShadows
@InTheBannerOvShadows 5 месяцев назад
He literally was stabbed by blades from each side he earned a wife
@bennygerow
@bennygerow 6 месяцев назад
25:59 ahhh great explanation! I didn't get what exactly was going on with the sun
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
🫡🫡
@MarkArandjus
@MarkArandjus 6 месяцев назад
Release that Raban Elvis voice cut, that's what I need. "May YOUR knife chip and shatter, buddy, u-hu-huh!"
@christopherflux6254
@christopherflux6254 6 месяцев назад
Denis Villeneuve is known for empowering women. He openly speaks about it, gives women important leading roles and addresses violence against women in his films. (Polytechnique, Incendies) So sexism is a very odd charge to make against one of his films.
@khaar1898
@khaar1898 6 месяцев назад
I often dislike when movies changes too much, but Dune is one where everything else is so excellent and the changes ties well together with the main story that this is such a chefs kiss. LOTR was the last amazing epic book-films and for me personally this tops it if I try my best to remove nostalgia bias.
@thermalreboot
@thermalreboot 7 месяцев назад
The only real change, except for some choices of characters to not include, was how Chani was changed to act more like a foil for Paul. Frank Herbert was surprised that Paul was considered a hero by readers when he was written as an anti-hero, the changes in Chani were meant to support Herbert's view. Alia was changed as well, but considering she only appears as a character near the end of the book, her addition would have been weird without character building.
@Alnivol666
@Alnivol666 7 месяцев назад
Why change CHani though and make her act like some annoying girlfriend? She slapped Paul in front of everybody. That is simply nuts. Also, she disrespected her elders in the community. How could that fly? Answer: it couldn't. She would have been removed from the Fremen immediately and her water given to that lake thingy. Suchan annoying character.
@andreabreslin375
@andreabreslin375 7 месяцев назад
I believe Chani is pregnant at the end of Dune 2. Paul perhaps forsees this as the reason she’ll return.
@LOGAN_BURNS
@LOGAN_BURNS 6 месяцев назад
I’ve got a question about Paul and him using “The Voice”…. So is Paul able to use “the voice” on crowds of people?? Coz I haven’t read the books or anything but I was thinking that Paul was going to be so powerful in using the voice that he could use it on crowds of people like the fundamentalist in the south when he’s shouting that speech to then yknow and that’s why the space granny’s are so worried about him 😂 coz that also kinda make him even more of the bad dude that way coz he’s just forced a whole bunch of people to fight for him… also why didn’t he use the voice more in part 2?? Like I was really expecting him to just use the voice on Feyd or the Barron and tell him to kill himself infront of the emperor by the throne or Feyd in their dual?? Does Paul ever use the voice in that way ever ???
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
Only on individuals! And he didn’t use it that way because he knew he had to best Feyd in honorable combat
@robertnguyen2025
@robertnguyen2025 6 месяцев назад
In the book interpretation of the Voice is vague..so it depends on the reader mindset..sine Denise Village is a advid reader of Dune and he is the Director he can creat his own version of the book interpretation..in the 1984 movie .David Lynch made Paul voice terrifying with showcasing his power on front of everyone ..yet yes the Voice is only for and against individual..
@jl.7739
@jl.7739 6 месяцев назад
As I haven’t read the book, there was one scene that I didn’t understand: how was Chani able to save Paul when he drank the water of life? How did this all work and why could only she save him? I got that she drinks a drop of the water but how does that save Paul?
@bellowl
@bellowl 5 месяцев назад
I haven't read the books either but my understanding is that Chani is the daughter of Dr Liet Kynes, the Planetologist, Judge of the Change, secret leader of the Fremen. Chani means "Desert Spring" or Desert Springs" (I think I might have heard "Desert Tears" - is that from the film?). She is part of the Prophecy (also explaining her scepticism and reluctance to be a part of it). Paul drinks the Water of Life and is close to death, with barely any signs of life. The Prophecy says that Muad'Dib will be saved by Desert Tears or Desert Springs (?) so in this film version Chani's literal tears, water from her body, is mixed with a little Water of Life and rubbed on Paul's lips bringing him out of his trance.
@djoneforever
@djoneforever 6 месяцев назад
They could just make part 1 & 2 into a single 2 movie. Part 2 is really boring, Too much fightings. They could just cut all those fighting scenes
@AnthonyK93
@AnthonyK93 7 месяцев назад
I’m having a Spice fueled vision if the future: I see a Special Edition Director’s SUPERCUT 4K BluRay of Dune parts 1 and 2. I also foresee myself buying this. And if you do not believe me; I shall UNSUBSCRIBE!
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@KayPfromthaD
@KayPfromthaD 7 месяцев назад
Battle of the bastards and Hardehome was better than Dune 1&2
@davidkaneva9674
@davidkaneva9674 7 месяцев назад
The Human Centipede and The Invisible Maniac were better movies than Battle of the bastards and Hardehome. And I directed Hardehome!
@KayPfromthaD
@KayPfromthaD 7 месяцев назад
@@davidkaneva9674 MIRACLE DEAD WATER
@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526
@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 7 месяцев назад
Do not compare Dune to that abomination made by Dumb & Dumber. Oh yeah and GOT ripped off Dune.Starks are the Atreides all but in name .
@KayPfromthaD
@KayPfromthaD 7 месяцев назад
@@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 Go ahead, make the Sheepeole noise.
@WeAreLegion-
@WeAreLegion- 7 месяцев назад
Zendaya and Christopher Walken were bad casting choices. Also, why did Rabban kiss Feyd-Rauthas foot twice, but the second time was more dramatic? They should have edited out the first kiss.
@jamestully156
@jamestully156 7 месяцев назад
Quizatz haderach? Ive always called it the quicksand hat rack.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣
@N8R_Quizzie
@N8R_Quizzie 7 месяцев назад
Having not reading the book, the final scene had me gripped and I thought Paul could die and his sister would eventually take his place. I thought maybe he isn't the one when he got stabbed. Then when he grips the blade I thought this is it, then he goes down with Feyd. What a suspenseful scene.
@Choom89
@Choom89 7 месяцев назад
The fish-bowl helmeted people from the first film are not guild navigators, they are "representatives of the spacing guild" although when you look closely you can see that they are basically breathing concentrated spice and have blue eyes peering through their mask.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 6 месяцев назад
Yeah no way those were navigators, just representatives. Less funny than the representatives from the mini series, but that’s probably a good thing lol
@Choom89
@Choom89 6 месяцев назад
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I mean I had to go back and check, since there was little sign or mention of them. Thufir tells Leto that the trip required 3 navigators and I counted 5 representatives.
@musashimiyamoto586
@musashimiyamoto586 4 месяца назад
In terms of spectacle, CGi and all that, maybe. However, in the original the story was still prominent. Nowadays everything else trumps it. (Looking at you "Everything, Everyhwere all at once" getting Oscars (except Jamie-Lee Curtis) for no particular acting) Sci-fi Masterpiece of the decade? Well, have there been many other sci-fi revelations since 2020? Don't think so.
@joymiller9668
@joymiller9668 5 месяцев назад
I'm sorry but the story is timeless. It didn't need to be changed for this generation. Yeah this version is pretty to look at but the story sucked! The scifi mini series of Dune and Children of Dune is 1000x better as far as world building and character building and its 95% accurate to the books. And you can watch it and you wouldn't even need to have read the book. All these new movies think people are just to stupid to understand the politics and intricate details of things. And I mean come on if a tv mini series running 4 and half hours has time to explain things fast and sufficiently with a $100,000 budget, a movie like this should be able to. The emotions are convincing in the scifi adoptions. The Chani n Paul relationship is so much more epic. She supports him but she's still strong. Idk if you want the best adaption and a better story watch the scifi mini series it covers the 1st 3 books too, so you don't have to wait another 2 years for just 2 books to be finished. And you'll get to see James McAvoy play Paul's son. And best of all you may just find it on RU-vid. I promise you won't be disappointed, unless you are only worried about special effects and nothing else. I'm sorry its like Disney StarWars, special effects can't make a movie, but a good story with old effects will stand the test of time, because it's a good story. And idk why everyone is comparing it to the 80s movie when we had an updated version in 2000?
@BrazenBull001
@BrazenBull001 7 месяцев назад
Uh oh The normies are liking it
@llstarlight
@llstarlight 6 месяцев назад
I saw Blade Runner several times. I will be seeing his s one more than once. Butler took it over the top. 😊
@barrywhite6060
@barrywhite6060 4 месяца назад
It's an amazing movie and some of the added stuff like the Bene Gesserit being telepathic and Jessica being able to talk to Alia is an amazing idea, but I hate the major changes because you don't get the character relationship developments. And I don't like the fact that yes Channi felt how she did at the beginning but as Paul gets his powers and the prophecy starts to be fulfilled her refusal to accept it and her keep moving the goalpost so that she didn't have to believe is really annoying.
@ja88ott
@ja88ott 5 месяцев назад
There were no Weirding Modules, plus with the Baron having younger boys would show how evil & twisted he is. I don't understand why things like this have to be tamed 'today's audiences'. Anyway, still a brilliant movie.
@arbelcohen8280
@arbelcohen8280 6 месяцев назад
Honestly I liked part 2 way more than part 1 but I dunno if part 1 is to blame really, considering how the Dune book is paced. It’s like half the first part of part 1 was exposition. But I still love them both and I’m jealous of people who marathoned em when watching for the first time
@fochdion1152
@fochdion1152 7 месяцев назад
This may be too cheesy for some, but since Count Fenring was an older generation attempt at the Kwizatz Haderach that didn't pan out, I was secretly hoping that Count Fenring would be in this movie played by Kyle MacLachlan.
@logancollins4874
@logancollins4874 7 месяцев назад
So the only thing that confuses me is what is the Bene Geserits motive for implementing this religion on Arakkis and other planets. What’s the point for them to do it?
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
They’re trying to create a being who can see time and lead the universe to a better path forward
@nineomite
@nineomite 7 месяцев назад
It's called the "Missionaria Protectiva" - they'd spread specific "Panoplia Propheticus" (myths, prophecies, and superstitions) to primitive planets. Any Bene Gesserit that comes along later can use her knowledge of the "Panoplia Propheticus" to cast herself as a guide/protector/prophet - immediately giving them useful power over a portion of the planet's native population. Bene Gesserit fight dirty haha.
@dustyblanco1546
@dustyblanco1546 7 месяцев назад
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_those are 2 different “prophecies”
@jack31416
@jack31416 6 месяцев назад
The Bene Gesserit don't have much military or political power of their own, and there are relatively few of them. Instead they influence populations to support leaders the Bene Gesserit want. They think a long way ahead, and Dune is a significant planet, so they planted myths they could use at a later date just in case. The prophecies were intended to help someone like Paul, and Jessica knew how to take advantage.
@Magick73
@Magick73 6 месяцев назад
I would've been satisfied had he followed the miniseries route, even it wasn't perfect, but I at least cared about what was going on. The visuals and music are spot on, but the way the story was done is just a no for me.
@craigfairweather3401
@craigfairweather3401 6 месяцев назад
Don’t forget that the original Bene Gesuit plan was that Jessica would have a girl and this girl would mate with Feyd!
@soulofcinder5151
@soulofcinder5151 7 месяцев назад
I'm feeling DUNE PART TWO and DUNE TRILOGY will become THE LORD OF THE RINGS or STAR WARS for our generation
@mysticmouse7261
@mysticmouse7261 6 месяцев назад
It was magnificent enough to survive Zendaya's unattractive performance.
@lordseano2343
@lordseano2343 7 месяцев назад
Part 1 and part 2 are legit good sci-fi movies. Feyd Rautha stole the show for me. 👍
@mnemosynetrident6722
@mnemosynetrident6722 7 месяцев назад
One of the most overrated movies of the decade. The 1984 version was far better and had far more flair and soul then this snore fest.
@jaimebaselga4395
@jaimebaselga4395 5 месяцев назад
I think it was visually excellent, but thats it.. my least favourite villaneuve film
@gstokker
@gstokker 7 месяцев назад
Time jumps but Lady Jessica still pregnant??? 🤷‍♂️🤔
@dashielmemory2259
@dashielmemory2259 4 месяца назад
I love people that talk about art but don’t create it
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 4 месяца назад
We Literally made a short film that was accepted into a prestigious festival last year
@Shane-zl9ry
@Shane-zl9ry 7 месяцев назад
Count Hasimir Fenring is my favorite villain in the books. It should of had a short scene of him supporting the seduction of Feyd-Rautha... and them showing their love for each other. 🤔
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 7 месяцев назад
Disappointed he was cut along with Thufir
@lilymack4028
@lilymack4028 6 месяцев назад
Sheesh: doesn't ANYONE under 30 read anymore? Dune wasn't writen in "the 1950s". It came out in 1965.
@raidersofthelostpodcast_
@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 6 месяцев назад
It was a simple spoken error, try talking for two hours without making a minor mistake
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