I have a '21 R1250GS with a set of TMMs fitted. Previous tyres used are a couple of sets of Metzeler Roadtecs, the original Anakee Adventures, a set of Michelin Road 6s and now the Dunlops. The Dunlops dropped into a corner quicker than any of the others when new. That settled after quite a lot of k's into a brilliant, stable tyre that holds a line better than any of the others. Stability at high speeds is not a problem (at more than your problem speed) and I have not had trouble with traction on wet roads. (In Tasmania, where it rains a lot and the roads have corners...) Longevity is ridiculously good. The Missions carried me on a 14,000km journey around 2 thirds of Australia and are still going strong now I am back home. In short, they suit me perfectly. There does seem to be huge variability in rider reports on these tyres and i suspect they are pretty inconsistent in manufacture.
I’ve run 2 sets of the TMM. Both have been fine and nothing that you’ve described. They’re not very good in sand or mud but for all other conditions they’ve performed well. Most people really like this tire. Everyone has a different feel for what they want from a tire. Good luck on your next set.
Hi, the Dunlop Trailmax Mission is not a 50/50 tire but rather a 70/30. Excellent on gravel or dry dirt road + asphalt roads. Driving at legal speeds with 10-20 above normal these tires are excellent. Surely not a tire for your driving style. Ride safe !
This highlights how the feeling of each rider can be greatly different. Thanks for your input and feedback. Hope the next set of tires works better for you!!
Just rode 500 miles, 100 of them off-road, on my first set of TMMs this past weekend. Tiger900RP. They handled gravel, hardpack, light mud, light sand, rocky hard and loose, wet creek crossings, twisty mountain roads, and a couple of sustained 100 mph runs (GPS said 117). No issues at all. I have to say I'm impressed. Up to recently, I had AX41s on the bike, which are phenomenal off road ( and surprisingly rideable on tarmac) but I wore out two rears in less than 1500 miles each. Rode GS for ten years, and with only a brief stint on a set of K60 , used Shinko 705 on my alloys; and mostly 804/805 on my wire set. Last tires I had on my wire wheels were AX41s and they were the best for me up to that time. Had my Tiger not come with them, I'd have mounted them immediately.
Some points: Why are you using a 50/50 tire if you ride tar 80% of the time? Why are you exceeding 160km/h on a offroad (50/50) tire? The trailmax mission is T rated, IE the MAXIMUM safe speed you can do on it is 170 odd km/h, that does not mean you should. You say your TP's were perfect, what is perfect? GS spec? or spec for the Tire? I would not slander a tire/brand unless I provide more evidence and fact, rather than opinion.
I respect your opinion, and these tires may not be for everyone and your type of riding. However, I had these on my R1200GS and I thought they were wonderful. Really the best tire I have ever ran on an adventure machine. I put 2500mi on in one week, rain, gravel, rocks, tarmac and twisties. These tires performed well under all conditions, and I felt super confident in the rain especially. I hope you find the right tire for your needs, I found mine!
I have a late model 1200GS and took the bike on a 5000 mile trip across highway, back roads and dirt, ending in South Dakota and riding the trails in the Black Hills BDRX and they were great the whole way. I ride in the Northeast and have done NEBDR. The limitation on the tires are loose, rocky uphill climbs and slippery mud. That's a bout it. As a road tire they are great. I can't imagine how you can have a bad experience on these tires.
I have them on my 1250 GS. Got them with the bike (bought it second handed) as a second tire, because bike had Dunlop Mutants on. Diference in on road handling between those tires shoked me! Mutants are the best handling sport touring tires I ever tried (rode them on several bikes, from Tracer 700 and 900 to R1200R and 1250 GS) giving me the most confidence. Missions were horrible at first! Falling into the corners way too quickly, not having a clue what was going on with the front tire. Now, after couple of thousand km, I learned to trust them in the dry, having to work much harder from side to side on the bike to quickly change direction. But, when going on the gravel they work beautiful! Bike is very stable and planted. Gravel in the middle of the corner doesn't bother me anymore.And they last at least double of Mutants. Still missing the Mutants confidence when riding really hard on the tarmac but now I got used to it. And yes, on higher speeds (over 170, 180 kph) the steering gets lighter and wobbles a bit.
Thanks for speaking truthfully about your experience! Tire mistakes are expensive and dangerous. I support your findings, but differently. I like the front Dunlop TMM, but find the rear sketchy on the cold wet pavement in the PNW winter. I live north of Seattle, WA. I don't like the Dunlop TMM rear and am now riding an equally miserable Motoz GPS rear, also losing traction constantly below 40°f on wet paved. I will probably go back to the Michelin Anakee Adventure rear, best back tire I've found for my SuperTenere. I do like the Dunlop Trailmax Mission front for my use.
After years of running Shinko 804/805 on my off-road wheels (2006 R1200GS), I tried the Motoz GPS hoping for better mileage on an upcoming trip to Utah. The rear tire developed a long crack on my first local off-road ride with them. Didnt notice it until I was cleaning the bike the next day. Took it back and was fortunate to get a full refund. Sold the front on Marketplace and bought a set of AX41s. The B'Stone rear was worn out after 2000 miles but it held up.
I have a 2021 AT1100DCT. I had AX tour tyres( factory stock) I bought the bike 6 mths ago with 2900 miles. At 4000 they definitely needed changing due to tread! They felt amazing, stuck like shit on a blanket!! So like you, utube for tyre reviews! I'm 99% road use!!!!!!! But I like the look of 50/50tyres! I chose tkc70 front and rocks rear! Mechanic got the Dakar (yellow line) by mistake! His shop is 100yards from me.....perfect! I immediately thought I had square tyres! It felt bloody awful! TC was kicking in all the time also! Took about 500 miles, but now they turn in, feel light! Grip is really good, even in the rain!
@DIYLeisureSA do! I was thinking about changing them immediately for the stock 90/10 tyres! I did wonder why riders put 50/50 tyres on, if it ruins the bike! Some of the harder compounds can take upto 1000miles to bed in! Softer tyres on heavy bikes can be dead after 1500miles! Be interesting to hear your review after 1000 miles!
One of the main issues is too many adventure tires are too heavy. I tried the Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires on my 1200 Scrambler XC and immediately I noticed the strange handling. it was awkward and felt heavy and slow. I actually switched out the rear tire first because it was so heavy and ran a TKC70 Rocks rear. The rear Dunlop trailmax Mission was almost 20 LBS! A lot of Motz Tires are heavy too. I think manufacturers and motorcyclists all need to pay more attention to tire weight. Right now I have a Tiger 800 and it has Shinko 705 tires. That aren't the lightest, but they seem to work ok. I would recommend trying other tires and pay attention to weight. If you want a tire good for on and off road, check out the Trailmax Raid tires. Or go back to the Anakee Adventure tires. Another option you could try would be to run a TKC70 Rocks rear tire with another front tire of your choice, like a Shinko 705 or an Anakee Adventure. Avoid the regular TKC70 front or rear tires, the TKC70 Rocks is the one that works of those tires.
I drive them on my Tiger 1200 Rally Pro ....great on gravel, great for tight Turn arounds, also good on meadows with a bit of mud and fantastic on twisties made of aspalt.. I guess the GS might Not BE a good fit with the Missions for everyone, AS their Front tires are smaller, the Tiger Rally has 21 Inch Front tires. I guess this is what disturbed you. Also, Michelins are softer and might Match better with smaller tires!
I'd also feel unsafe doing 160 Km/h on what is perceived to be a "50/50" tire with a speed indicator of T (190 Km/h)!!! C'mon man get real, this is not the tire for that! That said, Dunlop markets this tire as a 50/50 in the US and South Africa, but it also markets this exact same tire as a 60/40 in the EU where I have recently purchased it. Regardless of what Dunlop is trying to achieve with its clever marketing, just look at the tire. Does it actually look like a 50/50 tire? NO! No way is this a 50/50! I'd say it's closer to an 80/20 if not 90/10. Why did I buy this tire? Well, coming off the Mitas E07+ and K60 Scout, I was looking for a midpoint tire between 60/40 and street. And also I just wanted to try it out. Not perfect off-road and not a dedicated street tire, its a heavy tire which one needs to respect its limitations.
