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Duotone Wing & Foiling Tech Talks - Foil Position, Trim & Shims 

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This episode of our Duotone Tech Talks is about Foil Tuning, especially how to make the correct use of the little shims which are coming with your foils and how this trim can affect the performance. Join our Head of R&D Klaas Voget and Foil Designer Jerome Bonieux for more! Filmed and edited by BSP Media.
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@scoty7392
@scoty7392 27 дней назад
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen explaining tail shimming and tuning. The only thing I feel is missing is the effects of shimming on feel, pitch sensitivity, turning, and speed. Negative shimming may turn better and be faster but also pitch sensitive and harder to ride, etc.
@duotone.wingfoiling
@duotone.wingfoiling 27 дней назад
Thanks, happy that it helps you! You're right, it's a fine line between lower drag and being too pitch sensitive when reducing angle on the stabilizer. You can be faster with more angle / a more draggy system because of better control and the ability to push harder. Of course it also depends on your riding level what's best for you personally. Better riders can get away with a more nervous setup and enjoy the extra turning it offers them. Lower level riders will be better off with a more stable system to unlock their best. Cheers, Klaas
@valentinopucci9879
@valentinopucci9879 26 дней назад
Great work guys! My question is : What effects does a negative Shims have while riding a wave? Example: if I ride a one meter wave without thickness and the foil tends to come out of the water, if I insert (negative) shim while riding the same wave will the foil tend to stay in the water longer? If so, will this happen at the expense of delayed flight departure? I hope I was clear
@BonieuxJerome
@BonieuxJerome 25 дней назад
Hi, yes a negative shim could help you in that case, definitely worth trying it and check if it solves the problem you are having. One adverse effect from using a negative shim though, could be that your setup becomes too pitch sensitive. If that is the case, you might want to try a smaller size stabilizer without any shims. Lastly it could also be that the foil you are using is too big and generating too much lift once on a wave. If you give me you exact setup description and your weight, I might be able to have a more accurate tuning solution to your problem.
@valentinopucci9879
@valentinopucci9879 25 дней назад
@@BonieuxJerome Thank you in advance for your availability but I just needed to understand how the shims work in the waves. Sometimes I find myself in the situation I described above and moving the mast is an increasingly delicate operation.
@jmunkki
@jmunkki 29 дней назад
Remember that this advice applies to stabilizers mounted on the board side of the fuselage. The effect would be reversed for a brand where the stabilizer is mounted on the opposite side.
@BonieuxJerome
@BonieuxJerome 27 дней назад
Good point! We should have specified that in the video ;)
@franpinyol8500
@franpinyol8500 11 дней назад
At 3:50 , instead of "as you accelerate" did you mean "when you are riding at high speed" ?
@duotone.wingfoiling
@duotone.wingfoiling 10 дней назад
If your front foot pressure doesn't stay similar if you change speeds (accelerate), but pushes your front foot up more and more and you have to bring your weight forward the faster you go, then you might want to try decreasing your angle of your stab with the use of a negative shim to keep it more balanced throughout the different speeds you're riding. Some riders prefer to have the "safety" of the front foot pressure building up, as it's usually more controlled at high speeds to have a bit of front foot pressure to push into. Play around to see what's actually faster for you and your level of riding. Hope this helps!
@chriscumming5232
@chriscumming5232 25 дней назад
I’m not sure I understand the front foot pressure concept. Doesn’t this just depend on where I’m standing? All foils generate more lift as speed increases. If I find the front foot pressure increasing too much doesn’t that just mean I’m standing too far back or the mast is too far forward?
@BonieuxJerome
@BonieuxJerome 23 дня назад
All front wings will generate more lift as speed increases IF the fuselage stay at exactly the same angle of attack. Remember that we have not only the front wing generating lift upwards but also the stabiliser which is generating an opposite force and thus subtracting lift from the front wing as speed increases. We explain that in more details in our other video "foil basics" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b_bL2ksu_kA.html
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