Man... JYMV is the one of the only few people who can make a switch review 14 minutes full of no bs, no ads, and just straight up information. Good job as always!
I got some durock light tactiles a couple months ago. Swapped the stems for Polias (basically glorious panda stems) and GOD DAMN. What an absolute beast of a housing for a long stem. You have to try it.
Extremely thorough and in-depth review, well done. I reviewed/tried these myself and I came to the same conclusions as you did--lubing didn't make much of a difference, the stock lube job was kinda nuts (I actually had 1-2 switches that were "squishy" from some of the pooled-up lube) but the good springs and tight top housings are actually pretty good! I could totally see someone wanting a cleaner MX brown experience and grabbing these for their next board when they found out something like Holy Pandas were definitely not for them. Will you be covering the Medium Tactiles?
There so many premium medium or MX Clear like tactile switches on the market right now that I don't think those are as important to talk about. I would definitely recommend trying something like the Kinetic Labs Penguin switches or the JWK Cerulean switches on CannonKeys as oppose to something like plain Durocks.
hey, sp star meteor orange switches are also a light tactile switch that are still being manufactured and that can be both filmed and lubed, so i'd say the durocks aren't the only "mx brown replacement" switches rn
super underrated switch, i grabbed some a while ago and liked the small but noticeable tactility, which i prefer compared to the finger breaking experience of using a zealios switch. however, i passed on these for a full build and opted to go with the naevies instead, which i now regret since the naevies are pretty scratchy even after lubing.
@@ephraimsb2277 weird, i didn't get any leaf ping after lubing with 205g0, but i've tried other light tactiles like the gat browns and outemu light purples that have plenty of leaf ping even after lubing. i think there's something about the small bump that makes these kinds of tactiles prone to it.
Great review! I'm particularly a fan of MX Browns and I'm thinking of getting these, as it's very tiring to tune mx browns to my liking. I'm torn between these and Sp-star meteor oranges. Also, I really gotta say, I appreciate a lot the 3 second warning of the voiceovers. It''s really nice and I wish more people would do it. Keep up the great work!
Great video very in-depth. I mean I personally am okay with browns I don't really get all the memes when people probably started with browns. But IMO I feel that the MX Browns have a nicer sound just pretty much due to the cherry housing all clear housings don't really do it in terms of sound IMO.
I doubt these will be discontinued. They have been available for awhile but where previously only purchasable from Durock on Ali Express so even if Divinikey stops stocking them they will probably remain available there. These also aren't the first premium light tactile switch to hit the market. The JWK Pewters are a much more limited switch created with the goal of being a much improved MX Brown alternative, but those have a very distinct sound profile due to their UMWHPE housing (somewhat like a tangerine but tactile). I recommend watching Shoobs's review for more info on those. There are also a couple switches that don't advertise themselves as an MX Brown alternative but seem quite similar in terms of tactility. The TTC Watermelon Milkshakes which I just got but have yet to try in a board seem pretty similar and I've also heard that the SP-Star Meteor Oranges (tactile variant of the meteor switches) have a similar tactility profile but those also have a very distinct sound profile (quite clacky).
Try Outemu Milk Tea. IMO they are absolutely incredible for a brown-like switch, and are the deepest sounding switch I have ever tested in over 80 different samples. The pre-lube is just fine, and they are unfathomably cheap in sales, as low as 15cents each. The downsides for me are that I like the speed I get from 3.5mm or shorter switches, and milk teas are standard 4.0mm on top of a bit of a heavier spring, and something about the stem makes them actually even lower, so you get cherry interference on row 3 in BOTH north and south orientations, so you either need clearance washers, or to just use taller caps (I've been using MSA)... I type faster on something like Akko Cream Blue Pro, light and very short... but there is something so special and unique about the milk teas, their sound is like nothing else.
Personally I prefer round tactile switch like most of the dome with slider switch or sharper one like buckling spring and alps clicky switch. The durok one do sound pretty good tho
I hope you can also check out Gateron CAP brown switches, which also falls into the same categories. The v2 cap brown that I got seems to have a deeper sound signature than both cherry brown and durock light tactile in my tests. Nice video! I actually think at some point, these switches will become popular. Too bad too many people buy into the brown meme..
FWIW, as someone who used cherry mx keyboard from non-custom brands for 12 years... I got a Keychron Q6 after getting my wife a C2 and hearing my keys were LOUD and felt WOBBLY. (so I got myself a nice replacement) Now I'm trying to one and done the switches, I refuse to go end game, but I have tried and I actually dislike strong tactile bumps I think... friend gave me Aqua Zilents and I am getting used to it but I think normal browns will be better... He linked me this video. FWIW, I'm someone who hasn't gotten sucked into the brown meme. Thank you for fighting the unpopular fight hahaha
@@linchtrade FWIW, I bought the Cap V2 browns after seeing how good the reviews are (particularly people like the yellows as an Ink killer). Let's see how these go! You were referring to the v2, in your original comment, right?
even though i also enjoy really tactile switches, ive also grown to like the pewters and the light tactile durocks. its much less intense and more relaxing in a way
Wow ok way to up the ante on sound tests and show us not just your setup so we can get an idea of why it sounds a certain way, but also make sure it's consistent between switches boards and plates. Leading the way!
mx browns are hated on way too much. they aren't amazing, but they arent bad. they are just ok and completely usuable. that said, durock linears are a noticable improvement and a joy to type on, mx tactiles will always be bland and mx clickies (including box etc) are the best for tactility
Someone that types a lot for a living (me) need something as light as Cherry MX Brown. Pewter switch works the best for me because it offers strong tactility for its actuation weight. A big plus that it is already smooth out-of-the-box, so I don't lube it. As far as typing goes, the switch is my literal endgame.
Great review! i would like to ask about how long the springs are, since i am considering these but would like to springswap them for a lighter spring. Is the spring 14/15/16 mm?
I have to agree but for a different reason. Cherry switches have a nylon blend top housing that creates a less plasticky more full but also muted sounding top out as oppose to most JWKs. If you can get your hands on some retooled or hyperglide MX Switches, do the necessary mods (good lube job, spring swap, film) they can feel just as premium as JWK switches with a more disirable sound profile in my opinion.
Tactile switches that are nearly as light as Cherry MX Brown yet so smooth (for tactile switches) that you don't need to lube? Sign me in. Shame that I came across this review months after receiving my Pewter switches. Of all things Durock (outside of recolors), I find their quality to be premium without breaking the bank like "premium" switches that charge a literal dollar for one switch.
Someone on the product page tried putting 45g springs onto these and he said they fit better in his opinion. When I get these switches I'll probably gonna swap the springs as well.
"Dozens of other people" - actually the biggest jab at cherry mx browns. The implication that of all the millions of people who've used them, only a few dozen enjoyed them LOL
are these the same stems/housing as pewters? i've been using pewters for a few weeks now and for some reason they feel quite scratchy even though there is TONNES of factory lube (thin)
I don't have experience with pewter, but I'm told they are a different material. For the time I've been testing the Durocks, I haven't experienced it going scratchy
From what I researched these are essentially the same mold as pewters but different housing and stem materials. Pewters have some leaf ping but I lube the leaf contact points and it's smooth to me.
I honestly don’t mind using Mx browns. But for people who really love that big bump, I can see how they find it annoying. Part of linear gang, I do not mind but it is SCRATCHY
@@Tao-dh9yz I paid 70 cents but that’s because I got the 90. In the realm of premium switches, it’s right up there with the others, but, you’re right. It could be cheaper.
