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@@josereyes1148it's because all his life he has been surrounded by yesman who never said he didn't know what he was doing they were only interested in his riches. The same thing is happening now. The likes of Chris Jericho and EVPs are taking advantage by blowing smoke up his backside. There is a reason why Tony, their fans and their second tier indie wrestlers doesn't react positively to constructive criticism.
"Heres the thing people dont understand bro. I may be the same age as Jim, but I am hip and in touch with the younger audience bro. Jim still thinks its 1986. Sex sells bro. I want to have a product the `18-34 year olds can jerk off to bro. Thats the thing that people dont understand. W-R-E-S-T-L-I-N-G is southern. Sex is mainstream. Me and ed would watch Jerry springer and Seinfeld because that touched on society. I want people to turn on the product and think low budget PORN bro. Not southern wrestling. Thats what people dont understand"
I agree with you but Dixie wasn’t a Fortune 500 CEO. She ran a PR firm pre-TNA but it always the parent that had the money. Lucky for her she is now President of a Panda company in producing hemp.
One side note: by this time, Russo is a prior generation. By the time he's talking about what's hip and cool, he's the guy wearing a backwards hat carrying a skateboard... It was just a thinly veiled excuse because Russo wanted to get rid of the people telling him no.
It's hard not to wince when guys like Russo and the Kliq use words like "hip" and "we were so cool" in their 50ssince NWO was fun and all but come on it was also Hulk Hogan in a street gang saying 4 life unironically
That was because he didn't wanna work with Russo, which I can understand cause who would want to work in an enviornment where two or more people don't like what the other person is doing.
When Russo said young hot Tina Fey like woman he was 100% alluding to Dixie being that woman. They even dressed Dixie up like her when she started doing T.V.
Russo was definitely trying to kick Cornette out and suck up to Dixie all in one go. "Someone who looks like Tina Fey", hmm doesn't that sound like Dixie? Russo is so full of crap.
The funny thing about Cornett is, he's like the youngest guy out of the old school guys. He's only 62 years old. He's literally not even eligible for Social Security lol. Versus Vince and Bischoff and all those guys who are in their 70s already.
I have NEVER seen a guy contribute so little,yet get spoken about so much as Russo. Yes,its fun to bust on this guy,but frankly I'd rather talk about paint drying on a wall cuz' he's just not worth our time. 🙄
Arguably, Russo has contributed more to the wrestling industry than nearly anyone else. In the same manner that I contribute more to my toilet than anyone else in my house.
Lol. I am surprised Dutch took this one on. If you say the wrong thing about Corny and Shitstain, you risk the wrath of Cornette. That is a minefield I would not want to walk through.
Russo has always been jealous of Cornette, Cornette has always had a deep history and understanding of wrestling, while Russo watched trash TV and brought that to wrestling
Cornette has somehow become pro wrestling's version of Roger Ebert. A brutally honest and divisive critic. Even better than Meltzer, who basically aspired to be what Corny has become.
Meltzer aspired to be accepted by the wrestlers. Cornette aspired to be able to work and never leave his house. Both got what they want...Meltzer's opinion has just never been more irrelevant and out of touch. The irony being that he keeps calling Cornette out of touch.
At least Cornette has actually been in the professional wrestling business, as opposed to his only experience being writing Jerry Springer “Sports Entertainment” shows.
If they woukd only have listened to corny. Kind of the same thing now with aew. Why cant theu just listen to people that know more and can help. Corny gives free booking twice a week and they just wont listen. AEW actually tries to go against what he says.
Jim cornette is old and out of touch. I tuned out when I heard him give his take on how a segment “should have” gone and it sounded like a Memphis cluster F. 15 years ago in TNA he could’ve been helpful but these days, he seriously is a dinosaur
@@morganjacob1195 more over with southern rubes who wish it was still 1986. But if cornette was so over he’d be working for a major or even minor promotion right now. But instead he hosts a podcast with some no name guy where they talk about what other people in wrestling are doing instead of doing it themselves.
@@chuckles9767 AEW is far more in touch with life in 2023 than the guy who can’t comprehend people watching RU-vid videos on their phones. And guess what? Even if cornette did have contributions to give, his ego won’t allow it because he’s no different from Russo in the end. It just doesn’t work for him unless every single person on the show does exactly what he says and wrestles exactly how he wants them to. Anyone else should be banned from wrestling in his eyes.
Of course he did. Russo tried to get corny gone from wwf too. Snakes do that when someone is better than them at their job. I have dealt with it myself being an electrician for so much less money. So you can only imagine the back stabbing and trying to ruin people by being a coward and insecure about their own jobs
@noreally6000 1. Proof for your Gooker statement. 2. What do you care about his private life? One has nothing to do with the other. If it's even real.
If Cornette had terminal cancer and knew he had a few months to live, I would not be surprised one bit if he went there and took care of Russo in the old school way
@@kevinbbadd I didn’t say he’d fight him. I said he’d “take care of it”. If you don’t believe Cornette hates him that much, you haven’t been paying attention.
Cornette’s point is proven more and more every year. Spike TV literally cancelled Tits N Ass because of Russo. Also Russo’s a snake for turning on Jeff, who got him into the company in the first place. “I had a conversation with a friend” he’s full of shit. Even with getting fired from WWF, Vince jumped ship to WCW like a slimy, gutless pussy (so no, Cornette didn’t get him fired from the WWF). I honestly feel Jim deserves an apology 🤷🏿♂️ & nowadays Dixie Carter has been replaced by Tony Khan (with Vince being replaced by The Elite).
There is a huge and important difference between Khan and Carter. Tony Khan had more money on his own (i heard he got his inheritance early) so he really doesn't need to care about business. It's his thing and his thing alone.
What? AJ Styles, Ron Killings, The Rock, D'Lo Brown, Mark Henry, Triple H, Chris Jericho, Test, Shane McMahon, Val Venis, Hardy Boyz, New Age Outlaws, Chyna, Sable, Ken Shamrock, Jeff Jarrett, Kane, Mankind, Sonny Siaki. He was always looking to elevate new stars. Which young talent did Cornette push when he was writing Raw in 1996 and 1997?
One of the most mis-guided, consciously-ignorant and tribalistic comments in this thread. The reply from @TheNextStep851 should answer your question and assist you in re-thinking reality. Stop chugging on Cornette or anyone else's balls as a replacement for your individual thinking.
The best part about this . In 2024 corny has the most popular wrestling podcast and russos cant get 1000 views on a clip . Funny that such a dinosaur is so popular 10 years later
The issue with TNA was that they switched performers from heel to face (and visa versa) way too much. That wasn't Corny, he understood how important it is to establish both characters.
If there's anything I've gleaned from so many different stories about Russo from different people, it's that he does do ONE thing well, and that's being a salesman. He knows just the right buttons to push when he's talking to someone that he thinks matters. He did it with McMahon and he did it everywhere else he was hired. And I don't mean kissing ass, I mean knowing exactly how to talk to people to get what he wants. He never did that with Cornette because he always saw Cornette as "beneath him", and still does.
Russo had some merit about him as well, so too does Jim, it's kinda unfortunate really that they couldn't work together. Take Russo's ridiculous ideas and storylines, tapered by someone more grounded in traditionalism like Jim, and they could have made some serious shit. Unfortunately they couldn't get over their own inflated egos and refused to even learn a single thing from each other..
@@CollinKillian Cornette has worked for 40 years, at the feet of Watts, Jerry Jarrett, Dusty, and Vince. He ran ROH, TNA, and his own company. Russo worked less than half that and destroyed everything he touched, including his own company in less than six months, as well as DCW in Utah. He's gone through more shows than anyone, including his own Pyro and Ballyhoo because he wasn't paying the fuckin' guy. Cornette has admitted fault with his decisions. Russo never does. It's always someone else's fault. Have you read his book? Have you read the part on Bitch Slap? Have you read his Wrestlecrap rant about how fans didn't get "Beaver Cleavage?" You'd have to be on mescaline to think that this guy ever had a good idea. More people are willing to work with Cornette than Russo. That should tell you everything. There's a difference between being ignorant and being stupid. You're stupid.
I listened to Russo shoot interviews because i want to see both sides. But for the lovd of christ i couldn't listen to two sentence of him before hearing Bro. I sat in front of my monitor "Please calm down a bit". Eventually i turned the video off. If i would've been forced to watch the whole thing my bloodpressure would've been somewhere at 300.
Cornette did not come across as cartoon. He’s as far from it. Russo was trying to get Cornette fired and trying to oust Jeff who brought him in from his own company. Russo never knew anything about wrestling. All he knew was Jerry Springer tv and as childish as you can get sexual content. See his tv pitch for Bitchslap and you will see what Cornette and other wrestling people were putting up with. Which he put out there by saying “Yeah, bro. I know I’m a Christian now but this is funny I had to put it out.” which is your typical “Born again Christian” hypocrisy. We wanna preach it and want you to follow it but we’re gonna keep on acting like we always did but we are gonna say we like God so it’s ok, as you can get.
"Russo was trying to get Cornette fired and trying to oust Jeff who brought him in from his own company." To this day Russo doesn't understand why they don't like him.
He totally came across as a cartoon. He was an over-actor with those dumb saucepan eyes facial expressions and the emphasized 'gulp' he had for selling announcements or promos. Heyman is exactly the same even now.
I simply don't understand how anyone took Russo seriously. While he had some interesting ideas, hell so can my 7 year old son. Russo came up with so many angles and ideas that were objectively idiot.
First off, not a leak. These were documents that came out as a result of the discovery over the lawsuit that Corgan filed. Also revealed was that this wasn't the first end run Russo had done. He did this in WWE, he did this with Destination America, and he did this again with POP! All of them are the same: "I have all the good ideas, and you can only be successful if I'm in charge."
Imagine a TNA where Jim Cornette, Dutch Mantel and Jeff Jarrett retained creative control, and Russo and Ferrera got left in the dust? Maybe bring in JR and Pat Patterson, (he had been fired from WWE by that point), and let them work with talent? There'd be no AEW and TNA would've been successful.
@@mikeg2491 Exactly. Why would a company not want as many customers as possible? Wrestling thinks differently and that's why they always have the same pool of people viewing their product. It's also funny that people say Russo and his opinions are irrelevant, yet those same people are always there to comment on videos about him or respond to his tweets, thus making him relevant.
Cornette was mostly wearing formal suits most of the time. His days of flamboyant rich boy manager in acid trip colour suits were over, and was acting as a authority figure, so he was dressing the part. Yes, he was weaning a yellow jacket at once or twice, but it was a pale yellow and most of time, his jackets were plain black.
Russo and Cornette are just complete opposites, Cornette is a traditionalists in his mind if it's not broke don't fix it and wants more grounded story lines and matches while Russo is very much entertainment focused he will throw anything at the wall to see if it sticks he wants out there story lines with a focus on comedy and eye candy.
Russo did have a point in the sense that TNA didn't know if it wanted to be a throwback to southern wrassling or a 90's flavored attitude era promotion ala ECW. It came over as confused a lot of the times I watched it.
TNA was the return of WCW. They just didn’t get it. They plugged in every old guy that wasn’t in the WWF and just hoped it’d make instant money. On top of that they put up with the same old personal crap out of everybody they plugged in like Nash being injured the day before he was supposed to lose a match. That hardly absolves Russo though. People wanted younger guys headlining since 1987 when they were looking for somebody to replace Ric Flair. Then of course it went into overdrive when they wanted to replace all the guys in 1997.
I love watching these guys (VInce and Jim) fight. its hilarious Is it for clicks and viewership? Probably. Doesn't mean its not A) genuine heat and B) hilarious
As much as i respect/love Jim Cornette he doesn’t know when to step back and compromise (Two grown men acting like grade schoolers) Jim will knock Tony Khan about not listening to others but, what makes him different? (in any line of work not every employee is going to get along like best friends (Both men were wrong should’ve just punched each other out and started over again
Russo is a weasel for trying to do this to Cornette and Jarrett. Most of Russo's ideas are trash. If you listen to him talk he sounds like a delusional person that knows very little to about pro wrestling. Hes slightly above Tony Kahn. Every other word that comes out of his mouth is Bro.
The only point I agree with is the presentation. Yes, some of the outfits Jim Cornette wore were wildly passé. But you could argue they could generate easy heat because here’s this guy straight out of the 1980s taking over a modern wrestling show. In terms of booking, Jim to this day is great. Where he’s struggled is in presentation and he’s never seen the value in that because Smoky Mountain was in the 90s, but except for the Gangstas was about a decade behind the times. You can’t have a national wrestling promotion that looks that old. Booking and promos? Great. But you can’t have angles out of the 80s without modernizing something. Vince on the other hand, wasn’t good at anything in wrestling, so it’s a moot point.
Cornette wasn't as good of a booker as his cult makes him out to be. I grew up watching SMW and eventually ROH when he took over and alot of his booking is just rehashing old ideas. No real creative spin.
Russo always thinks he knows what's right for the business. He even thought TNA should've brought him back at Hard to Kill in 2024!!! NO thanks...He might have created the name but the wrestlers made TNA!!! Just do your POD cast with EC3 can't draw a dime lol
All Cornette wanted, was for shit to make sense, & for the wrestling to be taking seriously by the wrestlers; as for being a dinosaur, I remember him saying back in the early/mid 2000’s, that he wanted an 80’s style wrestling presentation (ie serious), with guys/girls that were actually born in the 80’s. Then, as the years went on, the only thing that changed, was the decade he wanted the wrestlers to be born in; he still wanted it to be treat seriously, with shit that made sense, as that kind of wrestling makes people keep coming back- as it did every week during the territories. Yes, it can be updated, but that doesn’t mean completely changing what the business is about, & turning it into a reality tv sideshow. Jim wasn’t one for just using the over the hill gang, except in certain spots: either as special attractions, who would make occasional performances, or as enhancement talent, who would put the young guys/girls over, and teach them how to work. Russo said he wanted wrestling to be like the Jerry Springer Show, & wrote it like that; and now the Jerry Springer Show is even more dated, and phoney-looking, than almost anything that went on during the days of the territories. And, as Dutch pointed out, the fan base for that car crash-type of reality show-like wrestling, is incredibly fickle; if you solely play to them, you have to keep doing even more outlandish shit to keep their attention, which is impossible to sustain, & they’re always going to get bored & drift off, which is what happened after the late 90’s/early-mid 2000’s wrestling boom, with ratings falling considerably from where they had been.
You know why Cornette has 394,000 subscribers? He's not afraid to offend people and speaks his mind. People don't have to like him or agree with him but at least JC takes a stand. Dutch trying to make excuses for both Russo and Cornette so as to seem impartial and not offend people is disingenuous in the extreme. His videos do this more often than not. If you can't take a stand then don't post the topic.
