Dw Design Series VS Dw Collector's Series Comparison - Can you Hear the Difference?

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@tomkelsey2303 Месяц назад

You have Pinstripes on the Collectors which John Goode & Co. always says never do, so naturally those drums will be warmer and fuller.

@TopDownDrumming 3 года назад

Not enough difference to justify the extra cost. I love the Design.

@dieggosilva9909 3 года назад

Hi there, Long time Collector’s Series owner here. The differences in sound are subtle, yet enormous. To the untrained ear, they hear only the attack and highs, and they miss the subtle sustain of the mids and lows that are facilitated by the Collectors Series shell reinforcement rings. To the audiophile drummer, in any recording or live situation, with the right mics, these drums very well justify the $4k+ investment. Our Collectors Series are ALIVE; when you play them, they give you something back. It’s an indescribable feeling, and very uncanny, how after a while you start noticing that you’re not the one playing these drums - they’re playing you.

@I_ROT_WITHIN 3 года назад

I have the cherry/mahogany and I love it! Best drumset I ever owned.

@ramencurry6672 3 года назад

The Collectors will sound sweeter and better build quality. That said, the Design is plenty capable enough to be on a Grammy award winning album and sound professional.

@danielmorales6151 2 года назад

there is a big difference and when a band is playing you want your drumming to cut through without being too loud

@JavierMartinez-rz4vc 2 года назад

Fair enough,. But some people are open to pay more for the finishes and robust quality of that line of drums., Also, in the used gear market, the Collectors retain a lot of value,., Gretsch renown maple vs usa custom have also a very hight price difference.

@johnnymerritt9544 3 года назад

The audience at the gigs wouldn't be able to tell any difference . They both sound about the same only a very small difference as i can hear and i have played them both as well My pick in dw is the performance series at a much better value js

@danielmorales6151 2 года назад

They don't know how to pin point it but they would hear it and it would make a big difference in how they feel

@drkeithlovell3536 2 года назад

I once took a Collector's Series and tuned just like Gretsch Catalina Maple set in the store and the customer bought the Gretsch set. He just couldn't tell the difference and wouldn't pay the extra cost. This was at a Guitar Center. I was picking up my Tama Starclassic Bubinga set that Tama had sent ne. I was an endorsee at that time.

@traviswoodall6547 3 года назад

That Collectors kit sounds incredible. With good studio headphones, of course. They are SO full sounding!!

@TheLuc809 3 года назад

I love the sound of the Design.

@rolderdrummer2448 2 года назад

Both sound great, the smaller caps on the DESIGN allow for a more open sound and greater resonance, for a reason it is the model preferred by many to play live, versus the Collector which is preferred for the studio... I largely stay with the DESIGN for cost and benefits, Love the DESIGN feel…

@planetdog1641 Год назад

same here! They are good enough for me!

@Storkemain 3 года назад

The only difference that I hear, is that you've got two different head combinations. Pinstripe on the Collectors, and I guess you've got Emperor's on the Design kit, and that's what makes the difference for me. If they were the same on both kits, there wouldn't really be a difference in sound :-D Happy Holidays, man.

@jonashellborg8320 3 года назад

I hear a difference, more tone, tone holds longer on the Collectors series. Good for you!

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

Just goes to show the value in using premium heads. Makes a world of difference. Too bad that wasn't done for the other kit.

@ramencurry6672 3 года назад

The Collectors is sweeter sounding….BUT In a band mix, it might not make a difference in the recordings. However….from the drummers perspective, it might be a more pleasing feel. Possibly better tuning stability too during touring conditions. Plus, when you buy Collectors, you have more choices of different types of woods. The Collectors is better for a drummer who wants a more unique sound. However a more unique sound isn’t always better for the recordings.

@andysodom 3 года назад

Yeah, definitely there is a difference. The Collector sounds warmer and deep. I have the Design which I really love. I'd like to upgrate my kit one day.

@danielscanlon7856 3 года назад

The main difference you’re hearing is in the heads. Take a close look. The CS has what looks to be pinstripes which bring out the sound you’re describing. Can’t tell what heads are on the DS.

@fredrikhansson8176 3 года назад

It would be a lot better if both kits had the same heads, pinstripes sound alot better imo. What I like about the design series is the thicker shell, it gives a lot of body which is great for metal when you are pounding the crap out of the drums.

@AllenLind 2 года назад

Pin stripes suck! Evans clear or coated G12 are the way to go w DW. G12s are thicker single ply than G1s and sound awesome and they last! Pin Stripes deaden the resonance which defeats the purpose of purchasing and paying for much better quality drums! Any drum can sound like a cardboard box with pinstripes but not all drums can resonate with awesome tone!

@dougbeasley7369 3 года назад

I have played a set of collectors since 1999 (date code 1999) and there is definitely a difference! I have never heard them side by side til this video. Thank you for the video. A 14” collector is the equivalent to a 16 in any other brand drum. The biggest and most frequent compliment you will get from the sound guy is “man , all I had to do was just turn them up”! Evans G2 coated heads , and a Emad finger tight plus a 1/4 turn on bass drum with nothing inside , is the ticket! Awesome video

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Thanks Doug 😊

@beachboy2463 3 года назад

Both sound great, getting the design series in a week or so!

@jonathangloudeman 3 года назад

The Collectors sounds more focused and clean.

@drumfanatik316 3 года назад

That could be from the heads he’s using? On the Design Series he has what looks to be Emperor’s and on the Collectors he has Pinstripes. So it’s not a very good comparison when you use different heads like that.

@mikestein1024 3 года назад

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@mikestein1024 3 года назад

It’s all the heads

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

@@drumfanatik316 not even Emperors on the Design kit - those are cheap single ply heads. That alone accounts for 90% of the difference you hear.

@drumfanatik316 3 года назад

@@bakedalaska4363 I have two Design kits and mine sound great compared to this. On the smaller one I use Evans Hydraulics to get more low end out of the smaller drums and on the full size I have Emperors on the toms with a Powerstroke 3 on the kick. They sound great live!

@cruz2767 5 месяцев назад

collectors series : 'hand selected' north american maple design series : 'b stock' north american maple

@santecate 3 года назад

Not much of a difference for being 4k apart.

@dieggosilva9909 3 года назад

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

@@dieggosilva9909 my ears are very well trained. Put identical heads on the two kits and the differences virtually disappear. I speak from experience.

@cd-vq6dz 3 года назад

I do think the Collector's sound a little better. Slightly fuller with a bit more resonance. But, and it's a J LO, for the immense price difference is it worth it? That's going to be an individual assessment of course, but for me it's not. If I were a DW endorser and got my equipment for free I would certainly chose the Collector's. If I won the powerball I would buy the Collector's. Since I'm like most people who aren't in either of those positions I would personally just buy the Design. The Design series are very reasonably priced for what you're getting in my view. Full branded DW and hard rock maple shells for around $1600 to $1700 at the time I'm typing this (spring 21'). Some places have them on sale for even less, though they're usually either the black or white finishes only when on sale. If a person has the money lying around, or they're willing to go into significant credit card debt because it means that much to them, then go for the Collector's. I just couldn't personally see doing that when for a fraction of the cost you can get a very nice maple full branded DW kit in the Design Series. Just my 2 cents.

@alexcaymans 3 года назад

I have the design series and love it! Put some good heads, proper tuning, and voila; a great drum set!

@alexcaymans 3 года назад

ps. they sound too similar to spend the extra cash if you ask me. just my opinion. i have the satin white as well, an awesome color!

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

This can be true. I loved my design set. Just had them for a long time and it felt like the right time to upgrade. Thanks for the comment 😊

@maus_drummer 3 года назад

Right heads.. and Design comes alive!!

@carmeloocana9869 2 года назад

@@maus_drummer which heads you think would make that Design way better?

@planetdog1641 Год назад

@@carmeloocana9869 remo coated ambassador.

@claystaggs8908 3 года назад

Biggest difference I hear is the kick and floor Tom and that could be due to the tuning. Both are great kits.

@olivierdemeyere4021 3 года назад

I don't know about the price difference, but the collector's sounds better: richer and deeper rounder sound! a bit louder also

@brianskol7701 3 года назад

Good to hear this comparison as it is something I've wondered about in the DW series lines they've been producing. Although the heads are not identical on each kit, it seems that the Designs series is a little less resonant and therefore has more attack or focused note than the Collectors, although heads will also contribute to that as well. The kick on the Collectors sounds deeper in terms of the lower frequencies being more present, so a fuller sounding tonal balance overall to my ears. If you take the money factor out of the question it's easier to decide which sound is better for oneself. Plus there's your own musical preferences. Then it's a question of whether the difference is worth the money or not. It might be good to do a video where you swap the heads from the first kit onto the second kit for a more clinical comparison. Lot's of work......

@johnspiro692 3 года назад

Collectors snare sounds better but I like the white set better.

@MrPistons4life 3 года назад

The white kit is older and the shells are broken in. You can that the blue kit has a more dense fat punchier sound and the hardware is more than likely die cast both are beautiful sounding. I'm about to order an acrylic 7pc myself this will be my first DW kit. All of my hardware is 9000 already.

@jjdente7666 3 года назад

to my ear, I like the collector's sound more. but as most of the comments noted, you'll not notice it on a live gig. Maybe on a recording but, in a mix, it gets lost even more. I personally would go performance series just cause I am not a fan of the finishes on the design series.

@Slipstream0001 3 года назад

DCNH did the same thing. The truth is that closed mics don't tell the whole story. Tune any 2 kits the same way and A/B them and they will sound very similar because they produce the same pitch, the mics don't really capture presence, and other subtleties that our human ears pick up.

@jdpdrums103 3 года назад

Nothing sounds as good as a collector :)

@GabrielXDrums 3 года назад

Design series is the way to go tbh I love mine 😜

@dieggosilva9909 3 года назад

@sharkydrumcovers 3 года назад

what a pile of bull... my old granddad would say bullshit baffles brains... this guy is wrong.. I too play both sets performance and collector

@joelmarquez4629 3 года назад

@@sharkydrumcovers he is right … the feel… I have had collectors series drums the feel feel feel. And they sound great in studio trust me I know

@manysnakes 2 года назад

lol @ "audiophile drummer"

@ryanspeed4671 3 года назад

The Collectors has a richer sound. Obviously a big part of the price difference is the customization. Both kits sound very nice..

@boeder101 3 года назад

I can hear the difference. Both sound good, but the Collector's sounds like there's more tone and focus. The comment about the audience not being able to tell is probably correct - musicians are all about tone chasing though, and nobody ever complains about the guitarists out there chasing a certain sound they're after. Drummers do the same thing.

@amesailor 2 месяца назад

Idk which one is which, but the blue ones, I'm assuming are collectors, have much more richness. The snare has a mochi more dynamic sound, and the toms are much richer and more full. Idk about 4k difference, but there's definitely a difference.

@codybear56 2 года назад

You gotta tune your snare reso up a bit brotha. It sounds papery. Man you can hear the difference though. Those Tom’s are just warmer and more resonant

@josephdixon1688 3 года назад

What heads are on the tops and bottoms of the Design Series? I may have missed it in the video. I'm watching this in the middle of distractions. I just bought a Design Series kit 4 days ago (Thursday, 2-11-21). The heads they ship with... yuck. I put clear Aquarian Force 10's on top, clear Focus X on the bottoms, and a Super Kick 1 with a Regulator with hole and MAN! I sure didn't need to spend anymore money on a Performance Series or Collectors Series! I make a living mixing live bands, mostly top 40 dance/cover/wedding/corporate bands. I've mic'd up and mixed drummers with poorly tuned (and poorly played) Collectors kits and I've mic'd up and mixed PDP and Design Series that had great drum heads, that were properly tuned and played. It didn't take me long to realize that I could save one to two thousand dollars by getting a Design Series kit. Believe me... not one person in the crowd or dancefloor knew the difference.

@claystaggs8908 3 года назад

I agree I went with the PDP CM Exotic and put pinstripes on it and wow, for 1,000$ you can’t beat it. And they have beautiful laquer finish and the hardware is the same as DW uses, well some of it is the mag throw off and tension rods.

@DomCiaccia 3 года назад

I agree with you. From the factory the Design Series ships with cheaper heads and from what I’ve been researching, if you were initially eyeballing a collectors kit with maple shells, they are the same shells in the design series kit. Slap some better heads on it and throw some die cast hoops on it and you’ve got yourself a cheaper collector series kit. The only thing you’re sacrificing on a design series kit is a wider range of shell sizes, colored - larger sized hardware, wider range of shell colors and different shell material. If you’re not looking for anything specific, you could save yourself a boat load of money and go with the design series kit and no one would know the difference.

@AndyMStg1603 3 месяца назад

If you had the stock heads on both as you mentioned this comparison is for the bin. The heads make the biggest difference on drumsound. You need to put the same heads on both, tune them exactly to the same pitch to really hear the difference the kits. So all we hear in the video is the difference between the made in china and the made in USA Remo heads.

@jZildjianZj 2 года назад

I have a collectors 100% Cherrywood kit. Every time I play a double stroke on any of the drums, I “hear” something that sounds like “worth it!”

@butchcassidy3373 3 года назад

I have the design series and I like the smaller lugs. Hopefully one day I'll be able to get a custom series built with the small lugs.

@ramm8196 3 года назад

There's not a 4k difference... At all! Either way I just order my first DW designer series in panio black... Looking forward to that!

@mikestein1024 3 года назад

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@ramm8196 3 года назад

@@mikestein1024 I couldn't really tell the difference... Could you?

@butchcassidy3373 3 года назад

I bought the design four piece and added the 14x6.5 bnob design snare and it sounds great. Big sound for a little price. I'm very happy with my kit.

@danschneider9921 3 года назад

the only real difference is the bragging rights on owning a collectors kit

@ericdimeglio1795 3 года назад

I agree... its True....

@nielsemilbechnaumann 3 года назад

Exept the big difference in tom sound.

@paulrox177 3 года назад

You can get away with cheaper drums mic under processing. Live at a gig is completely different, that's where the collectors shines.

@holywater44 3 года назад

I can DEFINITELY hear the difference , I would play any of them. The Collectors sounded the best.

@Assimilator702 3 года назад

That would change with different heads.

@paintsmithinc 2 года назад

The collectors set is more thunderous with more sustain/resonance, I've noticed this on many performance/ collectors comparisons. I'd love to hear the comparison with matching heads, both resonant & batter, that would make the differences real clear. I'd personally love a collectors, they're not just premium instruments, but works of art as well in many cases. Thanks for the video!

@otherjonstewartguitar 3 года назад

Collector's Series sounds better integrated and warmer to me. The design series sounds more open and more loosely-integrated tonally, not really thin at all but thinner tonally than the Collector's.

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Agreed. Thanks Jon 😊

@regentsaquariums5692 Год назад

💯 100% Honesty, Design sounded like a box compressed I mean the Collectors just takes the cake when it comes to tone & higher value in clarity without needing to hit the crap out of the new drums. How to justify the price difference for both DW lines? 1: Collectors for studio and records only! 2: Design I can play it in the middle of nowhere in rural areas. Not concerned about people stealing it Thus I can replace it anytime when that happens, still really sucks though if that happens....

@BrynnerAgassi 3 года назад

I’ve got a couple collectors series kits (maple and cherry/spruce) and I also jam on a designer series in a reversal studio. I can tell you the biggest difference is the tone to the drummers ears from behind the kit and what exactly you’re looking for from the drum. Collectors have such a more round and fuller sound and ABSOLUTELY has a larger frequency range from behind the mixing board when mixing the kit. Designer is wonder, but definitely doesn’t have the round bodied sound the collectors series has. Don’t get me wrong, for anyone who says the audience won’t tell the difference, I agree, but I also have to say that if there is a specific sound you try to pull out of the drums, collectors will allow YOU to have the flexibility to do so, where as designer series won’t. Both sound amazing. The DW family are amazing at what they do. Much love to them

@danielmorales6151 2 года назад

the floor tom on the collectors kit is what i didn't like personally.

@kingalysterianlion5542 2 года назад

Hey bro! Good video! I listened on an iPhone and I can totally hear a difference. However, the price difference isn’t JUST because of the sound difference at all. The largest difference is the feel and response. Design series kits are designed to be PLAYED. They can take what you throw at them. However, collectors series are designed to give you more from your drums without as much physical efforts. So you totally made a great decision. Plus you’re paying for more wood, finish and hardware options.

@westbrad6808 5 месяцев назад

The difference in sound in person and also the feel is hard to relay. Many brands have the same thing going...Tama starclassic vs Star is the same thing. The Star or Collector's or SQ2 are on a different level

@Romans219 3 года назад

I can hear the difference. DW makes awesome stuff on every level.

@Why-Why-Zee 3 года назад

Collectors clearly wins. Warmer, rounder, more bottom and resonance.

@joewhittle801 3 года назад

No one would notice the difference on a live gig, because the two kits will never be on the same stage at the same time 🤦‍♂️ The difference is enormous between the two kits, but a) either kit in isolation from the other sounds like a great kit that leaves nothing to be desired, and b) many will not value the sonic difference to be worth the extra cost of the Collectors. I’m a Collectors owner since the mid 90’s. I love how time has aged my drums’ sound, they’re warming up and the prior savage-ness of the toms’ attack has subsided a little

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Well said Joe

@nykretus 2 года назад

I cann hear the differencr after playing PdP for years, definitely collectors but the series is also a good upgrade

@the6ig6adwolf 3 года назад

I started the video on my tablet and placed it screen side down and even closed my eyes while listening, when I heard the first kit my initial thought was thats the collectors kit and when the second kit started I thought 0h yeah the first 9n was definitely the collectors series. Mind kinda blown and wallet is happy because I'll be going Design series on the next kit purchase and saving a boat load of money.

@nielsemilbechnaumann 3 года назад

Do... You prefer the flappy sound of the design toms?

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

@@nielsemilbechnaumann it's not the toms - it's the heads. Put pro heads on the Design kit and prepare to have your mind blown.

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

@@nielsemilbechnaumann it's not the toms - it's the heads. Put pro heads on the Design kit and prepare to have your mind blown.

@andresrivero2518 2 года назад

to be fair, you have to use the same heads and tunning in both drums, of course it will be a small diference

@NEALBABBITT 3 года назад

I could definitely tell the collector's drums were fuller, and the design series were thinner.

@Supercreep1000 2 месяца назад

They sound slightly different. I wouldn't say one sounds dramatically better than the other. Skill, tuning, head choice, and stick choice are going to account for most of the qualitative variance between these two kits. I think with the collector's series you're paying a lot of money to flex.

@ShawnxEdge 3 года назад

The biggest difference is the snare drum. Collectors snare has more body the design snare sounds cheap. I likes the design floor tom more, it was more pronounced. BTW I own a Collectors as well.

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback Shawn

@zachariasbenny4616 3 года назад

I got an design and i love my kit….collector had an deep tone than an design…maybe an better drumhead and perfect tuning gives the design an great tone tooo❤️

@JuanderBoyMusic 2 года назад

I hope you are not listening to this on your phone, because there is a huge difference between both kits. There is a reason why the collectors is so much more expensive.

@LTModels 2 месяца назад

When you process the sound the same…… to me the difference is minimal. Hearing the drums live is completely different because of the natural volume of the drum. So I would say that they sound the same but they feel different.

@tomzeto 3 года назад

anyone have experience with DW collectors and Mapex Saturn Evolution? What would you choose for the studio?

@dime7612 2 года назад

Which one is which

@christophersmyrski8568 3 года назад

The blue sounds fuller on my phone. Very minor difference to my ear without headphones. Both sound great.

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Agreed. I never listened on my phone. Interesting

@BorgoDrums 3 года назад

Sounded to me like the design set toms were properly tuned, and the collector's set's were not :p The design ones had a focused, clear attack and a really even decay, while the collector's ones had a bit more clicky attack, due to the different, more dampened heads I assume, but it was also less focused, with a lot more funky/dissonant overtones, and a bit more pitch bend in the decay, different for all the toms. The collector's bass drum sounded more punchy and with a bit of a shorted decay, but there's not much else anybody can say seeing how close mic'd and processed its sound is. The collector's snare sounded a bit higher pitched, harder/clicky-er and a bit less ringy/more controlled, but they were fairly similar overall, and I assume there's a bottom snare mic there as well because I can hear an exaggerated/unnatural amount of snare sound as well, which is a tad distracting when trying to judge the difference between two similar drums. So yeah from what I can hear the differences are small, and the bigger ones I'm confident could be fixed with different tunings and heads, and I think this comparison would have been much more useful if the room sound was more prominent, as a lot of subtleties get lost when close mic'ing and EQ'ing and [...] drums.

@1mikeburns 3 года назад

The collectors had pinstripes

@dieggosilva9909 3 года назад

@Justamedic77 3 года назад

I think they both sound incredible. I think no matter what series you get anything that DW puts their name on is going to be of good quality. I just bought a Collectors Series kit lightly used for a bargain. Which is what I would recommend. They will hold their value and there are plenty of finish options. I got a 5 piece kit in Blue Moonstone finish and they sound and look incredible. And I only paid $2300.

@ajmpatriot4899 2 года назад

I might rob a bank to get that collectors kit. 😂 Both awesome! I’d have to FEEL them. 👍

@jeffbowe9810 3 года назад

Both sound great but the Collectors has a definite difference. I play the Performance and my daughter who is a DW artist of course plays Collectors. I think they all sound great including PDP but the Collectors have that deep, solid punch. They even feel different when you play them although I LOVE my Performance Series. I think it's worth the extra investment!!!

@jmdrummer7 3 года назад

A difference but not a $4,000 difference.

@Cameronbass5150 3 года назад

The collector definitely had a fuller deep round tone to it. Considering you can get a used kit for 1200 bucks its a no brainer.

@biodigitaljazz1 3 года назад

LMAO A used collectors kit for 1200. Okay.

@Cameronbass5150 3 года назад

@@biodigitaljazz1 oh yeah dw collectors 10 12 16 22 find em 1200 all day bro got mine for less blue oyster broken glass with the jazz depth shells

@biodigitaljazz1 3 года назад

@@Cameronbass5150 You know your experiences in life are not all universal right? lmao the lowest collectors kits on ebay are $1800 or 1900

@Cameronbass5150 3 года назад

Don't buy from ebay, if you sit and check your local fb market place your Craigslist, reverb, check ebay just incase they pop up especially during this time people needing cash.

@drkeithlovell3536 2 года назад

@@biodigitaljazz1 I just bought one 4 piece shell pack for $975 brand new from Alto Music in New York.

@greatdrumcovers1768 2 года назад

You should have bought a Pearl reference pure.

@Damo_Drummer 2 года назад

While we can debate all day about the difference in sonic characteristics between the two, there are other very signficant differences between cheaper and more expensive kits that need to be considered. Such things include dynamic range, response and sensitivity, and the overall feel of each kit. Just about any kit can sound good, but not all kits FEEL good to play or respond well to the nuances of the player.

@barak112 3 года назад

Way better tone on the collectors. Huge actually. In the collectors i hear exactly the same amount og tone as in my previous kit which was a workshop serie kit. Same shells as collectors but without reinforcment rings. They were a steal. Enjoy your collectors

@danielmorales6151 2 года назад

the difference i heard is the richness in tone

@bruceyork6405 2 года назад

Couldn’t tell a huge difference, especially $4,000 to $5,000 worth. Question….. did you stay with the stock heads of change to something else? If you changed to something else, what did you change to? I’ve got a good reason for asking. Thanks!

@SterlingRJackson 2 года назад

The heads are what came on the sets from the factory.

@joshuapierce9842 2 года назад

I’ve been playing Dw Drums for the most part of my 25 + year career as a drummer. I feel The Collectors shells have a richer thicker tone VS. the Design series . The difference is everything to me ... the richer tone is what I love about my drums. The newer shell configurations SSC ... VLT , X , 333 etc. you can not only hear the difference... you can feel it. the design series is good . IMO the tone is more open and not as focused compared to Collectors . But IMO still comes in as a good kit for the price point. I really think the saying you get what you pay for “ resonates” with this comparison. Some people may disagree which is totally good... its all about perception. I’ve read comments like its all marketing.. I disagree, Dw works hard to make drum lines that are set apart from each other in sound quality. Great video!

@SterlingRJackson 2 года назад

Well said Joshua. I agree.

@maus_drummer 3 года назад

The right heads... and Design comes alive!!! 🤘🏻😎

@jonhoffpauir8105 3 года назад

What heads? Thanks

@nickoftime3170 Год назад

Design series, with good heads and the right tuning sound incredible for the price, and the build quality is still on par with what DW has produced for decades. They are excellent in a live setting. Having said that, the reinforcement rings in the collectors are paramount to their sound and timbre. With the additional benefit of having limitless finish options and wood types, the Collectors are for drummers that can afford them. And they hold value in the used market as well. I am perfectly happy with the design series, but much like yourself, when I find that Collectors kit I just can't live without, I won't pass it up.

@grabrielgarcia8434 3 года назад

I wonder how a performance vs collectors series sounds like.

@Yellowcard7572 3 года назад

My guess would be that the differences are going to be very minimal, could be wrong though

@drumfanatik316 3 года назад

Check out the video from the Drum Centerof Portsmouth. They do a great comparison video between all three lines. The differences are so subtle. For the money, quality, and sound, I’d go with a Performance Series. I have a Design series already and they sound great for the money! Definitely suitable for a good sounding gigging kit!

@GrassRoots-fp4ty 2 года назад

I hear the difference. I have this question. Is the feel under the stick alot different, and is it easier to pull the sound out of the collectors series

@TonyDiaz. 2 года назад

Can't afford any of these. Yet, here I am, listening to the difference between two monster sets I'll probably never buy. Of course, the Collector's sounds beautiful!

@cookq 2 года назад

Great video. Thanks for making this mate!

@SterlingRJackson 2 года назад

Thanks man. Did my best with what I had. 😊

@JohnnyJolt 2 года назад

Dude those new ones look amazing. I’m in lust.

@FreezyChannel 2 года назад

Did you use identical heads on both?

@memopadilla5931 3 года назад

I'll offer DW a few hundred dollars extra.. Not 4k.... LOL

@rodrigosalazar1046 3 года назад

if you buy something so expensive you find it better for sure... I definitely don't feel too much difference

@drskilleto 3 года назад

I could definitely hear the difference between the two kits. I think the big thing that most people are missing here is the tuning range. I have both kits as well. The biggest difference that justifies the cost difference for me is the tuning range. The collectors sound good with the same heads through a larger tonal range. When tuned perfectly the sound difference isn't as pronounced, but when you put them in a situation with a bit less control the Collectors have a greater tolerance for imperfections in tuning. I think a good comparison would be the difference between Squire and a U.S. made Fender. They look the same and sound similar but there is a difference, both in the way they play and the way they sound with a mic on a stage. Most people in the audience wouldn't be able to tell the difference. As musicians I think it's our job to provide the best sound possible on that front the Collectors has the advantage. For the level and the price, it's really hard to beat a design series kit, but as your ears grow and you can hear more nuance it makes sense that you would want something with a better sound. If I found that kit as backline at a bar, I"d play it, but if I was going into the studio it probably wouldn't fly. Great video I think it might have shown the back to back individual hits the difference would more apparent.

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Agreed. Not many people understand or even know about how your ears grow to understand or even pick up subtleties in sound as you work more and more with music. Well said

@ragan_drums 2 года назад

What heads do you have on each kit?

@spasevrp 3 года назад

Are you using same set of heads on each kit. That and tuning can make a huge difference. The collectors are going to have better stock heads which is probably why your getting a better response when you play those. The designer series is very close. With a good set of heads that kit will probably sing just as good as the collectors with the stock heads.

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

Just to ward off future "the Collectors sound better" comments - the Collectors have premium double ply heads installed whereas the Design Series have thin, just barely better-than-nothing heads on them. That accounts for 99% of the difference that you hear. The Collectors sound warmer and deeper due to the better heads. The Designs are outfitted with single ply heads at the factory. There are plenty of good reasons to buy Collectors Series drums but if you're going for maple DW drums, give a good listen to Design Series with aftermarket heads on them. You won't believe how incredibly similar they sound to the Performance and Collectors kits.

@WMTrackdog 2 года назад

Oh yeah, big difference. Collectors series clearly has the tone over the Design series.

@JakeStaffin 3 года назад

Collectors definitely sound better here IMO, but I've heard Design kits that sound amazing. I like the sound of the Performance series and the smaller lugs so I'd probably go for that if I ever buy a DW kit, but the Collectors is so nice.

@ProdByAbeHal 6 месяцев назад

both kits sound fire!!

@AllenLind 2 года назад

Something you just can't show in a video is the feel of playing the higher end kit. Plus micing a kit has many limitations to really hearing what they sound like but DW collector have a depth of tone you have to sit behind to truly understand. Plus they do sound significantly fully in this video , again with the depth of tone quite a bit more enhanced than the design and this become more obvious as you play larger sizes. Any 7x8 by any company will sound great tuned properly. Not so with a floor tom!

@bradley5973 3 года назад

DW collectors isnt just a sound thing its also the feel you get when you lay into them toms and kick and snare dont choke . you can tune super high or super low and also peace of mind knowing you have the ferrari of drums and its not gonna detune after 3 songs if your a hard hitter ive played all drums and the collectors are on a whole other level

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

Cheap stock heads on the Design kit and premium heads on the Collectors? Not a fair comparison at all.

@SterlingRJackson 3 года назад

Both kits have the heads that came on them. Does that mean the factory set it up to be unfair? Must be

@bakedalaska4363 3 года назад

@@SterlingRJackson I don't mean to sound unappreciative as you've done something valuable here and I thank you. Normally one would control for variables when doing a "versus" video and that generally means using the same heads, microphones and tuning on each of the kits. If you're just doing a review of one then by all means, leave it as-is. A substantial part of the reason that listeners preferred the Collectors kit is due to the much better heads it comes with. Take that away and we have a much more interesting comparison, I think.