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DWP & Health: Recognition Of Fibromyalgia As A Disability 15 Jan 2019 

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Toby Perkins:
'Fibromyalgia sufferers experience many different kinds of symptoms. Often there is a heightened sensitivity to pain and extreme muscle stiffness. They often struggle to sleep, which exacerbates their muscular difficulties, and experience extreme fatigue. Sufferers also experience cognitive difficulties-not just headaches but problems ​with mental processes, known as fibro-fog, and an inability to process things as they did previously. As if those things were not enough, fibromyalgia sufferers can be struck down with irritable bowel syndrome too. A panoply of symptoms means that people have a terrible time. However, often, when those symptoms are dealt with in general practice they are masked as other conditions. Many time-consuming treatments are undergone, but they do not get to the root of things.'
Stressful experiences actually exacerbate the condition, leading to hugely damaging flare-ups
fibro-fog, extreme tiredness, extreme pain and trouble remembering things.
Fibromyalgia is thought to be related to abnormal levels of certain chemicals in the brain and changes in the way the central nervous system processes pain messages carried around the body. In many cases the condition appears to be triggered by a physically or emotionally stressful event. There is no cure.
There is no denying that it is a complex condition and there is a genuine lack of societal recognition of it. It is a truly disabling condition and must be treated and recognised as such for those seeking support from our welfare system.
Consultations undertaken by the Scottish Government show that current PIP assessments are simply not fit for purpose for those with fluctuating conditions such as fibromyalgia. Where conditions involve symptoms that fluctuate and vary, an effective assessment of illness must be flexible to take account of that.
The problem is that disability assessments in the current UK welfare system are tick-box exercises, so the answers need to be yes or no even when complex, fluctuating and distressing conditions are being assessed. The assessment of such a condition needs to be conducted in a way that is meaningful.
Ticking boxes cannot capture the distress, trauma and debilitation of such a complex condition. However, those living with this disease must subject themselves to that process in order to access essential support.
We need a welfare system that fully understands what those with this condition endure every single day as they struggle with everyday tasks that the rest of us take for granted.
Pacing yourself is the only way to manage the condition. It is a lot worse in winter than in summer and it will flare up if you over-exert yourself. You can save energy for specific ​occasions, for example a conference, work or an evening out, but no matter how much you plan, it can catch you out. You will be too exhausted or in too much pain to meet a deadline or go to a meeting.
Chronic pain is the main characteristic of the condition & the pain is constant, but the condition flares. The flares can last for weeks. The symptoms then are extremely severe.
Chronic pain is always associated with chronic fatigue, because sufferers cannot sleep and find themselves in a vicious cycle.
The other main condition is hypervigilance, and sensitivity to noise, light, smells, chemicals, medicines & food allergies / intolerances.
The major symptoms are:
fatigue, widespread aches, joint / muscle pain, migraines, carpal tunnel, drug resistance / intolerance, sweating, slurred speech, light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, memory loss, Cognitive dysfunction / brain fog - The loss of intellectual functions such as reasoning; memory loss; and other neurological abilities that is severe enough to interfere with daily functioning, food intolerances, irritable bowel syndrome, lower tolerance of physical activity, non-restorative sleep, hearing problems and chemical sensitivity RESULTING in confusion, anxiety & depression.
It is important to say, and to say clearly, that fibromyalgia is real, that the pain is real, and that the people who suffer from it should be believed. That should not be controversial, but I am afraid it still is. The campaign to have it recognised as a disability is good and important. It would make such a difference to many people’s lives to have that recognition.
NHS Self-help - Fibromyalgia
www.nhs.uk/conditions/fibromy...
UK Fibromyalgia
ukfibromyalgia.com/index.php
Fibromyalgia Action UK
www.fmauk.org/
Fibromyalgia Association UK
www.talkhealthpartnership.com/...
Fibromyalgia Medical Pack.pdf
www.fmauk.org/dmdocuments/Medi...
Fibromyalgia Association UK
PO Box 206, Stourbridge, West Midlands DY9 8YL
Helpline: 0845 345 2322 (10am - 4pm weekdays)
charity@fmauk.org
www.fmauk.org
#FibromyalgiaIsREAL! #ESA #PIP

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@praeliora
@praeliora 5 лет назад
I have Fibromyalgia, amongst other issues..for years I was told that it was all in my head, things are beginning to move forward in recognising the condition, but there is still no recognisable cause or cure in sight. On my first assessment I made the mistake of attending looking presentable... I was smartly dressed, wearing make-up and had manicured nails.. The assessors report actually stated that I didn't look sick because of this. Now I attend assessments in comfortable clothing, and wearing NO make-up, I am treated very differently when they can see my pale drawn complexion with deep dark circles around my eyes due to lack of sleep. I also don't take my medication for 12 hours so that they can see my true condition. Although effective, it takes me over a week to recover enough to leave the house again. It is a disgrace that I have to do this, but totally necessary.
@LowZones
@LowZones 5 лет назад
My first meeting with my work coach at the job centre she dismissed me as not being ill because I had just had my hair done the day before.....as well as having fibromyalgia, I'm in end stage kidney failure waiting for a transplant 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️
@HighTen_Melanie
@HighTen_Melanie 5 лет назад
Low Zones I hope you get your transplant soon. Good Luck xxx
@juliegreen382
@juliegreen382 4 года назад
What a fantastic watch although i have to say today i was laid here unable to hold my mobile and had to close my eyes due to the fatigue im experiencing. Fibro is real and everything that comes with it . The fibro effects familys and splits familys up also due to the lack of understanding in most cases i could go on forever but too tired . Just like to say thankyou to this group of MPs who actually believe us its vile.
@richardbeal377
@richardbeal377 4 года назад
I’m so glad there looking into fibromyalgia,and pip,and DWP , because I suffer with fibromyalgia a long time now. And I have just lost my pip ,DWP. I have no help now. Thanks to pip assessment . I’m still disabled nothing as changed. I have to go to the tribunal now.
@Tearsofasilentheart
@Tearsofasilentheart 3 года назад
FIBROMYALGIA IS A LIVING HELL... PLEASE WE NEED SO MUCH MORE HELP... WE ARENT GETTING ANY HELP AND STRUGGLE DAILY IN A JOB WE CANT DO. PLEASE PLEASE HELP.... I CANT COPE ANYMORE. I FEEL SUICIDAL.
@SB-is6je
@SB-is6je 3 года назад
Seconded, I wouldn't wish it on anyone else.
@cloverite
@cloverite 3 года назад
Seconded, have it for two years and still have to keep explaining to work colleagues and family why I can’t walk too far or why my house isn’t as tidy as it once was. My mum criticises my housekeeping at the same time as being sympathetic.
@jacquelinefaulkner5826
@jacquelinefaulkner5826 4 года назад
Its a miserable syndrome Mirrors ms. Its a debilitating condition Not under stood . Changed my life from constant on the go with volunteering with British red cross in my spare time, To a slow forgetful person. Now I have a cleaner and walking stick. Cant believe that im not me anymore. Stress many medications feeling useless and not under stood.
@misskurmis
@misskurmis 4 года назад
I can't wait for the day when they can test us for this. Every night I'm in major pain and on here looking for help and new research. It never ever let's up, and it's worse at night. It's horrible, horrible, horrible.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
You & me both, though it's a 24/7 thing for me & because of the intolerances to medication that has accompanied it I can't take anything for relief either. My original 'diagnosis' was ME then ME/Fibromyalgia. Problem seems to be connected to them both being categorised as syndromes because they accept there's something wrong but don't really know what it is, what causes it, how to reliably diagnose it or therefore how to treat/cure it. The REAL problem with not being able to reliably diagnose it is two fold: 1) many that potentially have it not being given the diagnosis. 2) many that don't have it being put in the same diagnostic box. Collecting a range of 'common symptoms' & labelling that range ME or Fibromyalgia doesn't bode well for either diagnostic improvement or, by extension, effective treatment plans. I'm NOT in any way medically qualified but I have the knowledge as a person WITH the diagnosis listening to those making claims about the illness that either fit or do not fit with my lived experience. I do NOT identify with any psychological/emotional causal onset. Sure I've had bouts of low mood here & there as a RESULT of the other symptoms suffered but that is NOT the same thing. If the strategy for finding a treatment plan or method of diagnosis is based on the assumption of psychological/emotional triggers then at best there's no hope & the alternative is things could get a lot worse.
@simonvaughn1523
@simonvaughn1523 4 года назад
my daughter is in constant pain daily , its hear breaking to watch begging for relief and us as a family cant help
@drewcampbellVO
@drewcampbellVO Год назад
I am a man with Fibromyalgia and every single day I’m in pain in variable degrees. I have gone part time but still do 24 hours a week in a factory. I have been given easier duties and I can sit down. It’s 12 hours and I am still crawling with pain. Days off are recovery. I can’t not work I am a man I have bills mortgage. In my mind I should not be doing this job but I have to. Now I am waiting for a tribunal date for a pip claim. All the evidence I can think of given has been sent and PIP have still rejected them and still stuck to there 0 points decision. This whole thing has been demoralising and I’m almost at the point of giving up after well over a year that this has gone on. It was a fight at work to let me going part time that was bad enough. I would love to hear from anyone that has gone through this and won
@yxng.jh1041
@yxng.jh1041 2 года назад
Am so happy to hear this motion debate it give me relief am a fibromelgia patient but I call my self a super women.but at end I cry alot not showing my family how I suffer every day.but to hear this motion people understand us I get relief
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 2 года назад
So sorry for your silent suffering & pleased this gives you some relief. Stay strong 💞
@nonnalovepriceless
@nonnalovepriceless 4 года назад
It can been triggered off by many traumas and I’ve had loads for many years My husband divorced me and took everything because he sd I’m always depressed and in pain 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋 We are warriors . But the pain is so real .
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
That must have been devastating. I'm so sorry you had this additional pain to try & cope with whilst so unwell. It is, unfortunately, quite common for family members, friends & work colleagues to assume this condition is psychosomatic attention seeking; I think it's because it was, & sometimes still is, described as such by some medical professionals frustrated at not having a cure & politicians trying to save money. Let's hope this official recognition at least helps others to better understand & therefore be more prepared to offer what support they can.
@supernova44
@supernova44 3 года назад
Sorry to hear that Nonna. My nutless ex husband left me and the kids too because of my deteriorating health. F''' him is what I say, Karma is a bitch that doesn't forget. Hang in there...
@shahilagh
@shahilagh 4 года назад
Good for the woman who has a passionate man advocating for her ..... what if someone has none
@karensmith3601
@karensmith3601 5 лет назад
Its treated as fake or at least pip assessor said to me and my daughter it seems like every corner you turn these days everyone has it,my daughter and I just looked at each other that comment from assessor was one and only time she brought it up.biased.
@bettyb617
@bettyb617 3 года назад
I’m having a terrible time with pip at the moment. I spend 99% of my time in bed with pain. I have no life and I’m constantly fighting dwp in some sort of way!! It’s taking everything out of me!! Despite being in daily pain
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 3 года назад
So sorry you're being subjected to this cruel, unnecessary & unjust treatment from those that should be helping you. I know some of what you are experiencing & how difficult it is to find the physical & emotional strength to get through the day. I hope you have kind people around you for the much needed support. Take care Letty B ♥️
@bettyb617
@bettyb617 3 года назад
@@SkyEcho7 thank you very much 😬
@susansherlock6934
@susansherlock6934 2 года назад
Unfortunately, whatever has been said about what the DWP should be doing in this meeting, they still aren't doing it in 2022. The whole system for PIP needs to be redone, it doesn't include information about housework, gardening, shopping, working ( if you are able to) and how you got there...I had an emotionally abusive relationship with my now ex-husband for 26 years. My mother had it , she had an abusive father, he was an alcoholic, which came first the chicken or the egg. There have been quite a few suicides in the fibromyalgia community over the years. If you don't want to be on a list of horrendous prescription drugs, they don't appear to take you seriously. I am an ex psychiatric nurse ( many years ago) and was told after getting 2 points on my assessment, I had great insight into my illness, by the phone assessor?
@nonnalovepriceless
@nonnalovepriceless 4 года назад
I have had it for years And I’m so ill and today I can’t walk the pain is all up my spin today I made a claim for pip in January and heard nothing Thankyou I’m glad you hav recognised this
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing some of your experience with this debilitating & frustratingly unpredictable chronic illness. Hope you are in less pain today & able to do a little more with your day. Take care, stay safe & above all, be kind to yourself. ~~~{{♥️}}~~~
@dsszerothlaw
@dsszerothlaw 3 года назад
Finally got a diagnosis last year after years of suffering. Swimming helped so much. Now unable to go swimming because everywhere is closed. 😣 It was as essential as taking a medicine. Imagine taking someone's medication off them because of 'lockdown'.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 3 года назад
I hear ya but SARS-COV-2 is a droplet infection so on balance you're safer not going, especially if, like many of us, your immune system isn't exactly top notch either. Take care
@dsszerothlaw
@dsszerothlaw 3 года назад
@@SkyEcho7 last year when I was going, the leisure centre was spotless, sanitiser everywhere, very few people allowed in, no showers, you have to be a member and book ahead. You turned up, wearing your swimming costume under your clothes, put your things in a locker, swam for an hour, then got dry and left. I felt completely safe and didn't catch anything, not even a cold. For me it's a low risk, and one worth taking.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 3 года назад
@@dsszerothlaw LUCK not science though unfortunately.
@allisonking4394
@allisonking4394 4 года назад
So happy to see this had this awful condition for over 8 years now and it sucks bigtime 🥵
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
It certainly does 😞
@ladonnataylor-3670
@ladonnataylor-3670 10 месяцев назад
Yeap it's awful and disability turned me down after three years and now had to get a lawyer also other problems on top of it so very awful pain and now waiting again for disability unreal
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 10 месяцев назад
🤗 hope you get your disability sorted without too much stress. Take care ♥️
@supernova44
@supernova44 3 года назад
Savella from my experience is the best medication for fibro because it helps lessen the duration and severity of flares. Lyrica is horrible and hellish. Look up the Guaifenisin Protocol that can also give relief; it's just the decongestant ingredient in over the counter cough meds. Fibro alone isn't disabling to me, it's the combination of it and other autoimmune diseases I suffer with. I came down with it after spine surgery which was very traumatic to central and peripheral nervous system. I'm glad fibro is getting the recognition and awareness but I doubt things will be easier for those needing PIP.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 3 года назад
Pleased you've found something to ease your suffering for your specific symptoms & thank you for sharing what could help others. It has to be said, I'm sure you'll agree, that it is wise for others to check with their own medical professional team for its suitability for them. Take care ♥️
@supernova44
@supernova44 3 года назад
@@SkyEcho7 Yes, of course and I hoped I mentioned clearly that I spoke from personal experience. Treatment should be tailored to an individual's need and medical history. Savella, Lyrica, and Elavil are as far as I know the only FDA approved medications specifically for fibro in the US. Is it the same in the UK?
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 3 года назад
@@supernova44 I've not heard those specific names but it's possible the same medication is approved/sold/prescribed under another name
@58mary999
@58mary999 4 года назад
I have this condition and I really am suffering, it has ruined my life. I am getting know support from my doctor now as he has stopped my pain killing tablets and I don’t know how I am going to coup I have decided to just give up as I am now not getting any support from my doctor.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
I'm so sorry you are not getting the support you need but PLEASE don't give up. Get another doctor & talk to your family or a friend.
@susansherlock6934
@susansherlock6934 2 года назад
GPs on the whole aren't interested...I kept going back to my GP with neck issues, a registrar said I had a middle ear infection????? My own GP offered Diazepam, I declined, then an x-ray on my neck, it picked up a contraction, that was ignored...it was a locum GP - thank goodness, that suggested it sounded like fibromyalgia and sent me to a rheumatologist...who diagnosed me, signed me off and told me to go to my GP if I had further issues. They really don't want to know!
@1mythri
@1mythri 4 года назад
I got diagnosed with fibromyalgia a few months ago but I’ve been suffering from is since the birth of my first son 6 years ago. I’m a graduate but I am unable to work and have now been unfit to work officially for two months with the job centre. The road to get a diagnosis was so long and frustrating and now I feel like I’m going to be on a long journey with the DWP. Like how long until they recognise me for disability benefits? How is the process? My mum also has fibromyalgia and she had sarcoidosis aswell, she is on PIP but had a lot of money cut. It’s just so frustrating, I wish I could just be able bodied, work and live my life as normal.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
Hi Hazel Thank you for sharing your experience. Unfortunately the common thread for us all appears to be: 1) lengthy diagnostic process 2) inadequate or detrimental treatment programmes 3) poor & often unsympathetic understanding of the complexities of the condition in the public domain & specifically within relevant government departments such as the DWP. I hope this debate at Westminster has helped to at least START a change for the better in these areas & that you are now given the support you need.
@sinnyozzy
@sinnyozzy 2 года назад
I was recently diagnosed after 3 years of investigations, was onset after the birth of my first child. I used to think it was a made up thing, I learned the hardest way possible that it certainly is not. Currently starting the process for PIP for help with travel costs and paid help, not looking forward to be dragged over the coals or having to tailor my answers to questions based on their very limited and restrictive criteria. We've had half a dozen or more committees on the benefits & disability system, it's time for less talk and more action - start by sacking that Therese Coffey! She's a horrible nasty woman who relishes in her 200k yearly expenses and cutting benefits for the poor & disabled!
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 2 года назад
I wish you well Sinead 💞 Take care
@gayepearson2174
@gayepearson2174 4 года назад
well i had my Dla cut moving to pip i suffer from this awful thing so DWP has taken no notice of this mind you this goverment want us all to to die
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 4 года назад
Yeah they're a heartless, greedy bunch that's for sure. I lost £30/wk when they transferred me from InCap to ESA 😠
@lakeyb1974
@lakeyb1974 5 лет назад
I have fibromyalgia I also suffer with BPD I've had three assessments for my Pip and each time there's not me off PIP and my condition has worsened, it taken two years for medical experts to diagnose me with fibromyalgia so these assessments you have to go for to get your PIP, how is it possible for them to make an assessment on your illness in the short time they have, I would say it is not possible, 5 1/2 months and I'm still waiting for my tribunal date
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 5 лет назад
You're quite right ... Even IF they were suitably qualified professionals they couldn't make a useful assessment of how your medical condition affects your ability to work in a little over an hour. Just mindbogglingly ridiculous. Good luck with your tribunal ♥
@linda6666linda
@linda6666linda 5 лет назад
I have just got my letter to say my dla will stop and I need to claim pip , just seeing the letter has stressed me out . I have heard so many people who have lost benefit my fear is there . I originally got dla because I have myoclonus dystonia and have had sleep brain stimulator and I do believe it either caused my fibro, or the fact I had uncontrollable movements so the pain from this was put under the same condition. It's my fibro now that causes the more problems, it's an awful condition to have . Since I got diagnosed with fibro I spend over half of my life in bed , I don't buy clothes anymore I buy pajamas, this is my life, Although I do take many medication I'm certainly not sure how I would feel if medication was stopped? When I do have a good day and use that day to do normal day to day things , I'm happy them days but Its followed by days in bed . I suffer also with sleep ( can't think of the word ) I suffer anxiety and I'm defiantly waisting my life spending it in bed. And now I'm anxious about this pip claim, it's so unfair that we suffer this condition but then to try and explain in writing how awful it makes you feel when you go out of your comfort zone.
@SkyEcho7
@SkyEcho7 5 лет назад
It is a worry when benefits change at the best of times but these are not the best of times. I'd advise you to get help from CAB or from condition specific support group on how best to complete your claim form. They'll probably have successfully helped many people with similar conditions. It's no guarantee but helps swing the odds in your favour. Hope it all goes well for you. Btw sleeping problems usually insomnia ... Was that the word that temporarily escaped your thought.
@susansherlock6934
@susansherlock6934 2 года назад
Citizens Advice have been useless...
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