DYNEEMA [Part 1]: Replace Your Rigging | Sailing Wisdom 

It’s not the right time to publish yet, just like with the hull material videos. It’s good info so I put them in here so that people could still find it and use it before it goes public 😎 You found the hidden treasure!

Glad to help!!

@@RiggingDoctor get ready kid's, 🤣🤣🤣. I spent $1000's on computers 4 cameras high-end microphones SD card's & ( I can't tell you it'll blow the surprise) built a studio to boot !!! Oh yeah that means Maddie won't have to read to Herb all the time anymore, 🤣🤣🤣. I should be up & running today !!! I'm so excited 😊 🤗 🤪. I want my stay to fall when I'm done exploring her Cracks ??? 🤣🤣🤣 gotcha 👌

Congrats on the setup :)

@@RiggingDoctor How U2 been doing ? Anymore 3rd marriages extra honeymoons, 🤣🤣🤣. Herb you got the right Idea take Maddie to every wedding it's like getting married all over again Only on someone else's dime. No teeth to pull pun intended,🤣🤣🤣. Much Love u2 🤩🤩

There’s more of these on their way!

Awesome! More Greece to come :)

You are welcome

Thank you!

On steel, yes. It keeps out the water which makes it last a bit longer

Thanks for watching it twice!

Glad it was useful for you!

That would be a great topic for a video! We have liability insurance only on our boats. Insurance doesn’t shy away from synthetic rigging as long as it’s under 10 years old for the most part.

my boat insurance company didnt seem to care when I updated my policy to state that I had synthetic rigging. i dont think it made any difference in the premium cost either. I am forced to have some policy like $500,000 in liability insurance because my marina demands that for every slip owner. the marina doesnt care (but they should) what kind of rigging anyone has either, the only thing they care about, is if you have 2 fire extinguishers (which are nearly useless for any sailboat fire) and flares (also useless in an emergency) and life jackets etc.

Knowledge is power!

@@RiggingDoctor very true. Btw, once my stays do fail inspection I'm thinking of replacing them with Dyneema. Any special concerns for attaching dyneema at the top end? And what size would I need for a 25' Dufour 1800?

Thanks :)

Thanks :)

Thanks :)

Oh I wish we were actually still there! This video was made back in 2020. We’ve got a lot of these how-to videos in a back log

Yes indeed! When I bought the boat, the inner forestay was brand new so when I converted all the rigging to Dyneema, I kept this one to help reduce the cost. When we were in Spain, the steel stay died and needed to be replaced, making it the last stay to be converted on the boat.

We do but the stay needs a chafe sleeve to protect it from chafe caused by the hanks.

@@RiggingDoctor thanks

This is part one of a series of 4 videos :)

@@RiggingDoctor right on! looking forward to them.

Please send me an email with your questions at riggingdr@gmail.com 😊thanks

Dyneema will be great for you. Gaff rigs have really low tension at rest so they are easy to setup and adjust with Dyneema. You will love the stuff!

Do I match the wire size with dynmea size ? Or Air on the side of caution and go a size up ?

I look at the equivalence to make sure I’m not going weaker than what is there, but then I do a bunch of math to see what size it really needs to be. I use the RM30 to figure out the force exerted on the rig and then a few other formulas to figure out the static load on each stay and therefore determine the appropriate line size based on strength. Most of the time, it comes out to be near the size of the current steel but I have had a few cases where the boats original steel rigging was undersized and swapping Dyneema size for size would have led to some problems with creep.

That is an excellent idea for a follow up episode!

If they are still in good shape, you can reuse them. Those fittings are the best way to go when building steel rigging

Glad it was useful for you

I know the cost of changing the standing rigging lies in the range of $10k-$15k. That is based on what I've heard from others

@@sailingtranquility wow thats a lot. Thanks for your input

It depends on the size of the boat, but that is a safe estimate for the average cruising boat

@@RiggingDoctor Would dymeema be cheaper?❓

Herbert is my actual name :) everyone just calls me Herby. And yes, when stainless starts to rust, it’s nearing its end.

@@RiggingDoctor Cool I heard your green haired girl call you Herby so I just thought it was a lover's name is something. Thx'z on all the information you've been a big help.

You would be at the limit for what I am comfortable with. We sailed with the same tune all the time, and the temperature range was from -6°C to 43°C. If it was between 38°C to 15°C I didn’t worry about the rigging. Less than 10°C I would keep the sails lower on the mast (stay reefed instead of full sail). Less than 4°C, I wouldn’t put sails higher than the first spreader. This worked out well for us and our relaxed style of sailing. We also have lateral spreaders which accept being loose much better than aft swept spreaders which MUST maintain a high tension at all times or the mast could invert and break! It depends on many factors, but if your spreaders go straight to the side and don’t sweep backwards, then you will be fine. Just give the rigging a jiggle before you sail and act accordingly to the tension. If it’s tight, go full speed! If it’s loose, take it easy and don’t crash gybe.

@@RiggingDoctor perfect answer. Thanks

Unstayed vs stayed masts really depends on what the boat is designed for. In a perfect world, all bots would have junk rigs, but the vast majority don’t. I prefer galvanized over stainless for rigging, but I prefer synthetic for its ease of setting up and fabrication. You can splice braided wire, but it will hurt you where splicing Dyneema is actually fun! A well maintained galvanized rig will outlast a synthetic and grossly outlast a stainless rig, but the maintenance is messy. For that reason, I like synthetic on my own boat.

You can always use a bucket to keep afloat but you can’t lean against the mast to keep the sails flying.

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@@RiggingDoctor For Cell packs, those prices aren't bad. Much better than what I've seen. I guess I was just looking forward to the construction. Thanks

We have a huge back log of these videos. Decided now was the time to release them since our Greece videos aren’t doing as well as we had hoped

@@RiggingDoctor Good, I'll watch and put them in my new "rigging" playlist (I have to separate out my huge sailing technology playlist because its all mixed up now and I've needed to separate out the sailing topics for a while )

Agreed 🇬🇧SWayjed.... a Swatch is a small sample of fabric or paint ...or a plastic cheap designer quartz wrist watch brand over here😉😂 but the contents 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Thank you for the correction! This is part of a 4 part series so be prepared for many more incorrect swaging until newer videos on the topic are filmed.

@@RiggingDoctor I shall brace myself 😂

Yes, beat me to it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_z6IWbbhLx0.html

@@RiggingDoctor Lol...no problem im a Scientist and ex teacher but slightly Dyslexic. English is a mixed up language with more exceptions than rules.. there are certain words i read but my brain does an automatic close procedure on and miss read ..once I've done it though it can lead to repeats ...till i forget / go back and read whats actually there.🤦‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️😂 Long numbers dont even get me started on the problems scanning those has caused. My father used to come out with a few Spoonerisms.

I am! I’m from Palestine 189 in Maryland. I’m in my first year of traveling to the East.

Excellent. Trenton-Cyrus #5 in NJ. Spent some time in the line but my cabletow shortened w young kids. Back after college. Two years of highs school and college to go. Then potentially cruising. Have an IP439 in our future! (God willing). So maybe too soon to tell for getting back into the line. Too bad there’s not a cruisers’ lodge!

Traveling as a cruiser to other countries was even more special. All the friends we met along the way were through lodges in other countries. While cruising, you will really be a traveling man.

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Thanks for the correction! I’ve heard it both ways and assumed it was accent more so than correct/incorrect speaking.

Just assuming it is one more East-West coast quirk.

Yes :)

I’m from Palestine #189 in Catonsville, MD

@@RiggingDoctor Texas #8 in San Antonio TX, Brownwood KT Commandry in Boerne , TX

Copper and steel are an issue but bronze and steel pair well together. Think of your prop shaft (stainless steel) with the prop (bronze) bolted to it. In a relatively dry environment like a stay, there is no need for electrolysis collars, as the bronze hanks will grind away faster than they could corrode. In this setup, there is no copper, everything is bronze or stainless steel.

Yes, I now know the correct way to pronounce sWAYge fittings

Yes, thank you. Many have corrected this already

@@RiggingDoctor You're welcome. I have trouble with words all the time. I love to learn when I'm mistaken. 😁

Very much! That’s how we all learn and grow as people :)