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Dynomax Ultra Flo vs Walker Muffler Comparison - sound levels and sounds! 

AlexLTDLX
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We've compared two mufflers in search of quiet(er) performance.
EDIT Dyno results are in! 443 rwhp and 490 rwtq. Taking into account the 1.5 degrees of timing we added, the mufflers cost NO power. Before we made 422 rwhp and 475 rwtq.
EDIT EDIT: Car has run a best of 10.77 @ 128 so far... still some left in it, though!
EDIT EDIT EDIT: The car turned a 10.55 @ 129.3 and the block and trans let go. A Dart 363 and a built Powerglide are going in!

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@user-yv1fh3fc8y
@user-yv1fh3fc8y 3 года назад
The walker allowed the engine to be heard more than the exhaust and that was a nice sound.
@bad4health
@bad4health 7 лет назад
bought these and put them on and love the sound. after wasting 200$ on borla mufflers who would have thought that 60$ mufflers sounded better
@jcr8834
@jcr8834 8 лет назад
wow those welds at 1:11 lol. makes me feel proud of mine. :)
@TheMattc999
@TheMattc999 4 года назад
JC R not mine😔....guess that's why I'm a machinist and not a welder.
@m.pietro9087
@m.pietro9087 10 лет назад
Thanks for the video, very clarifying.
@JonnyCrash
@JonnyCrash 9 лет назад
Call me crazy, but I think the cheapo Walker's sound better than the UltraFlos.
@BloodStainedTear
@BloodStainedTear 9 лет назад
I concur
@sweeperstang
@sweeperstang 9 лет назад
+JonnyCrash i was thinking the same thing...
@2003pblakey
@2003pblakey 7 лет назад
JonnyCrash you are so right there
@MistrMcGill
@MistrMcGill 6 лет назад
JonnyCrash not crazy at all bro, I agree.
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 6 лет назад
JonnyCrash You may be right, but then again, computer speakers seldom do exhaust notes justice.
@buckaroobonsi555
@buckaroobonsi555 7 лет назад
I liked the Dynomax at idle but liked the Walker at WOT!
@wc6975
@wc6975 Год назад
love the Dopler Effect demo..... prefer the Walker here for sure.
@timtravasos2742
@timtravasos2742 5 лет назад
Excellent comparison. Wicked LTD. I love it!
@Owmyballsdude
@Owmyballsdude 12 лет назад
Was that a GN that smoked ya in the one clip? Where was the drag strip Cecil Co?
@sleeperracer3
@sleeperracer3 12 лет назад
That Eaton is screaming. I love it.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 10 лет назад
The h pipe gives you a deeper sound. With the ultraflos, the car didn't sound as loud as it really way. I mean, it sounded loud for a street car, but it really shook the ground. It would set off car alarms in parking garages. The x pipe is a higher pitched tone. Also, suppesedly (I've never tested this), the x pipe gives you a little more high rpm horsepower, while the h pipe gives you more low end torque. I should look into this - the LTD might benefit from an x pipe! Thanks.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
With the Ultra Flos it made 420rwhp/470 rwtq; with the Walkers it made 443 rwhp/490 rwtq - but with 1.5 degrees more timing. Tightening up the blower belt at the track netted another 3 mph. So figure it's around 470/500 at the wheels right now.
@flinch622
@flinch622 3 года назад
Less noise and more power? Bonus. One of the advantages of keeping exhaust roar down is you get to catch important engine noises - often an early indicator that saves big bucks
@shawnjohnson4157
@shawnjohnson4157 10 месяцев назад
​@flinch622 it only made more power because he added 1.5 degree of timing!
@Owmyballsdude
@Owmyballsdude 12 лет назад
@46sec, I think that was buick/monte/G body? I thought F-bodies were camaro/firebird? Anyhow thanks for sharing.
@blackred1032
@blackred1032 6 лет назад
Can these mufflers fit on any car?
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 10 лет назад
That's the only reason why I'll put X pipe. I like deeper sound and with straight through mufflers I think I'll have that sound. Well it's American V8, can't be bad!!! :) Thanks for the info.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
Best so far is a 10.77 @ 128 with a 1.56 60'. Gotta get that 60' down another tenth or two. Making some small changes to try to hit 130 in the 1/4.
@mightyjo3young
@mightyjo3young 12 лет назад
You made the video? Very nice!
@mightyjo3young
@mightyjo3young 12 лет назад
@AlexLTDLX What is your day job?
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 10 лет назад
Thanks! :) Can you tell me the difference between X and H pipe....as I know H pipe is louder than X? I'll put true duals with X pipe and long tubes on my GTA with something like Ultra Flo mufflers. Pipes will be 2.75 because that's the option I have here in Eurpe. I hope it will not be too loud. New crate engine is ready too!! :)
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 4 года назад
X's probably allow for better high rpm power as they allow for a smoother transition for the uneven exhaust pulses to scavenge each other. If you look at a NASCAR stock car exhaust, they'll have the X leading to dual "boom tubes" which exit at one side of the car. The X will probably give more of a higher pitched cackle sound compared to the H.
@HappyHands.
@HappyHands. 5 лет назад
Nice sleeper!. Although the steering wheel offset on those mid 80's LTD's used to drive me bonkers. Could not stand driving them.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
I've been thinking about possibly changing out the steering wheel. What about the offset bothered you?
@Owmyballsdude
@Owmyballsdude 12 лет назад
I would say the Ultra's sound more Camaro'y and the Walker's sound more Cop car-ish.
@11105angel
@11105angel 4 года назад
Would this be super quiet on a o/r prochamber mid pipe?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 4 года назад
Not really super quiet. I had a 3" Mac Prochamber - it was maybe a little quieter than the H pipe, but not much.
@vincentm.masiello8545
@vincentm.masiello8545 9 лет назад
What is this car idling at? Just bought the dynomax ultra flows for my car, not on yet, but yours sounds nasty.
@PikasFilm
@PikasFilm 9 лет назад
Vincent M. Masiello I don't know - around 1,000 rpm. It's a little high because I don't run an IAC.
@vincentm.masiello8545
@vincentm.masiello8545 8 лет назад
Thanks, sounds great.
@blueduster74
@blueduster74 4 года назад
Why would you check idle db at fast idle for one and regular for the other.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 4 года назад
That wasn't intentional... just worked out that way. The Walkers were much quieter. But this was years ago. Now I'm in love with Jones Max Flow mufflers. Like Ultraflos, but quieter, better made, stainless and cheaper.
@Yankeeyd
@Yankeeyd 2 года назад
this is a BADASS car!!!!
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 года назад
Lol. Thanks. Back when I started messing with it, people laughed at it. I may or may not have made some money with it as a result...
@jasmachugh4222
@jasmachugh4222 6 лет назад
Are those MD plates??? Yes!!! :)
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 6 лет назад
Shhh... don't tell anyone...
@BassManBobBassCovers
@BassManBobBassCovers 8 лет назад
What if you put 2 mufflers on each pipe (4total) ?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
Unfortunately, there's no room under the car.
@BassManBobBassCovers
@BassManBobBassCovers 7 лет назад
AlexLTDLX I was always curious how 2 mufflers would quiet down the system for some reason lol
@andrewbartleman9169
@andrewbartleman9169 6 лет назад
BassManBobBassCovers the more chambers/change of directions and sound deadening material such as stainless steel wool and fiberglass packing a muffler has the more quiet it will be. A common muffler style uses a chamber on each end and 3 perforated tubes. The exhaust will have a one way path through the tubes with end caps that keep the exha switching direction from tube to tube and the muffler can have packing surrounding the tubes. This is one of the first performance mufflers after the straight through glass packs and it is called a turbo muffler. This is a fairly mild sounding muffler but still has some decent flow. These mufflers shown are for more of a performance sound with decent flow if you are looking for quieter mufflers they have those. You dont have to put 2 in line for a quiet exhaust . Mercedes Benz has some of the quietest I've heard personally. I removed them from my e series because I like more of a performance sound .
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
@mightyjo3young Thanks! But when you take into account my "day job" it probably steals some of the magic. I'll still take the kind words any way I can!
@ArnoTrek
@ArnoTrek 7 лет назад
How long have you had the Jones and how is it holding up now
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
ArnoTrek a couple of years now, and they're holding up perfectly. A big thumbs up from me.
@ArnoTrek
@ArnoTrek 7 лет назад
thanks. what muffler config do you have. 2.5/3, center/offset, etc
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
ArnoTrek 3", I believe they are offset Inlet, centered Outlet. So technically I suppose they're reversible.
@reltub20001
@reltub20001 5 лет назад
Lost hotsepower with the walkers. Necked down inside??? Low performance muffler
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
At the power level the car was at when I made this video, the HP loss from the Walkers was negligible. But when I turned the wick up, they did in fact end up melting and distorting a bit (added about 200 hp - bigger blower/motor). I now run Jones Maxflow mufflers and after an A-B-A track test, there was no loss in power at 800-850 flywheel hp. The Jones mufflers are fantastic.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
@mbreinin Damn... that was fast!
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 10 лет назад
Great video man! Ultra Flos sounds awesome!! X or H pipe??
@Grummur
@Grummur 12 лет назад
LOVE this sleeper!
@93740il
@93740il 7 лет назад
Love that car,83 to 86 LTD's are cool as hell, I don't care what anyone says.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@mainebigfoothunter7088
@mainebigfoothunter7088 6 месяцев назад
I haven't seen one of those in decades. It looks great in 2024
@jjs777fzr
@jjs777fzr 4 года назад
That car is bada$$
@mbreinin
@mbreinin 12 лет назад
My vote is for the Walkers. I think the Ultra-Flows just sounded bassy, but they did not have what I would call a distinct tone. I like the semi-hollow and more defined sound of the Walkers. They sound really good at WOT. I bet they will sound even better after they break in. Give them a few hundred miles.
@Coronet_shop
@Coronet_shop Год назад
Same company btw
@vincemajestyk9497
@vincemajestyk9497 2 года назад
Both of those mufflers, the Super Turbo more so, will get louder over time as you run them more. Probably 6 months or more to break in depending how you drive and how much. Most of the ST's get REALLY loud towards the end of their life. Doubt at that point there's ANY packing left. Once the packing settles or blows out they sound better. I used to use Super Turbo's on everything but lately (past few years) the core tubes narrow down. It's already a reverse flow design so restricting flow any more sure isn't a plus.
@prostreetcamaro
@prostreetcamaro 11 лет назад
That is not 75/80 that is capital raceway. Where the testing on the road was done looks like sundown road but I could be wrong on that one.
@mike_beast_berriosberrios5542
@mike_beast_berriosberrios5542 7 лет назад
cool
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
Oops - just watched my own video - the F body was another run. That car looks to be some monza/vega kind of thing. Dunno - it was another trailered car. I drive mine to the track, air down the tires, and go!
@GameTime-cn7sm
@GameTime-cn7sm 4 года назад
I got a Cadillac Deville 1990 I want to get a muffler but a quiet one a cheap one what can you recommend me
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 4 года назад
Walker Quiet Flow
@GameTime-cn7sm
@GameTime-cn7sm 4 года назад
Thanks
@GameTime-cn7sm
@GameTime-cn7sm 4 года назад
What about the Cadillac converter
@GameTime-cn7sm
@GameTime-cn7sm 4 года назад
Cadillac converter you need Torch No screws
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 4 года назад
@@GameTime-cn7sm The catalytic converter? Keep it on that car. I don't have any specific recommendations. It'll help quiet it down and it'll smell less like raw exhaust.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
BTW - That was 75/80. At Cecil, the car would probably run 1-2 tenths quicker.
@bad4health
@bad4health 3 года назад
3 year review: i switched to the walker after this video and to date have blown up 4 of these same mufflers i have switched to different ones. the hole necks down to about 1.8 inches about 5 inches in the hole
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 3 года назад
Yeah, I had mine get hot enough to deform. I now run Jones Max Flow mufflers.
@AdmiralRustyShackleford
@AdmiralRustyShackleford 10 лет назад
no offense but i think you need to have the car retuned with the Ultraflo's, because the Walker Tru-Fit mufflers you used are just cheap replacement mufflers not intended for performance like the Ultraflo; if you look at a cutaway of both you can see the Ultraflo is wide open while the Tru-Fit has chambers and perforated tubes like a stock muffler, it may flow a little better than stock but not by a lot i think if you have it retuned for the extra flow, the Ultraflo's will make more power since they're wide open and straight through; an aquaintance of mine has a 65 Chevelle with a 468/8-71 and his car makes more power with Ultraflo's over the old Super Turbo's, and Super Turbo's flow great, best turbo mufflers you can get
@PikasFilm
@PikasFilm 9 лет назад
snakesonaplane2 No doubt, but I was going for quiet. I was surprised that there appeared to be so little power loss.
@AdmiralRustyShackleford
@AdmiralRustyShackleford 9 лет назад
PikasFilm If I want quiet but lots of flow, I go for a long case Magnaflow/Ultraflo if there's room. If not, Dynomax Super Turbos are very mild, even with headers and no cats, they're super mellow but flow great. In my experience because they have the flow directors that smooth the flow, they drone less than standard turbo mufflers.
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 4 года назад
@@AdmiralRustyShackleford I ran a dynomax super turbo on my Integra years ago. 4-2-1 header, no cat, straight back to muffler. No other muffler or resonator. Raspy, but quiet. Decent torque and throttle response too.
@kennethskipper8512
@kennethskipper8512 7 лет назад
Walkers sound much better imo,the ultras are insanely boomy.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
Over time, the ultra flos definitely get louder as the packing wears out. I run Jones Full Boar mufflers now, and back to back track testing (muffs vs no muffs) showed zero difference. The car now runs 9.8's at 140 mph.
@kennethskipper8512
@kennethskipper8512 7 лет назад
AlexLTDLX​ Once that packing burns out your get reversion in the case causing backpressure,happens with all strait through "packed" style mufflers.I use hooker areo chambers and superturbos on my cars.
@11105angel
@11105angel 4 года назад
Are these extremely quiet?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 4 года назад
I don't know if I'd say extremely quiet but yes they're pretty quiet.
@andymantoronto
@andymantoronto 8 лет назад
Walker Tru-Fit mufflers are a stock replacement muffler, you're basically comparing apples to oranges here.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 8 лет назад
If the performance didn't suffer, does it matter how they're classified?
@andymantoronto
@andymantoronto 8 лет назад
+AlexLTDLX Not really, I thought it was more sound versus sound not performance. Interesting to know that the performance didn't suffer.
@kirasummers4394
@kirasummers4394 7 лет назад
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@quadbravo
@quadbravo 5 лет назад
I was hoping to find a performance comparison. Weird to see everyone so focused on sound.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
Yeah, I'm more focused on quiet these days. It's worth noting that I've moved on to Jones Max Flow mufflers, because as the car got faster, the Walkers were just getting over powered (read: hot) to the point where one of the cases distorted from the heat.
@lifeisforgotten
@lifeisforgotten 3 года назад
Walker for the win... maybe they sound different in real life, but the PC speaker w sub makes the walkers sound amazing
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 3 года назад
They both sounded good. The Ultra Flos were deeper, and the packing did eventually "wear out." I'm a Jones Max Flow muffler guy now, fwiw.
@josephloro633
@josephloro633 7 лет назад
should of left one ultra flow n one walker muffler on car just to see what it would sound like
@Owmyballsdude
@Owmyballsdude 12 лет назад
Hey dude,,, no worries your ride is all business! Your at or better than the GTR/ZL1/GT500! Other than the rims looks like Grandpa out for a sunday drive. That is if Grandpa is heading to the track.......
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 12 лет назад
Nah - it was some 9 second 2nd gen F-body that was trailered, back-back halved (at least - didn't look too closely) and driven by a guy who had problems staging.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 10 лет назад
Thx. H-pipe. I've always like 3rd gen F-Bodies, BTW; esp. the Ponchos.
@sidepipechris1
@sidepipechris1 7 лет назад
1:11 that weld tho
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
LOL... hey now. I did that in a pinch with my long-gone, craptastic Harbor Freight flux core welder/piece of garbage. I've since (a few years ago now) bought an AHP alphatig TIG welder - a whole different universe than the weld you've pointed out. But thanks for pointing it out. Now the world will see it and think less of me. j/k :) Thanks for watching!
@hillboy582
@hillboy582 5 лет назад
Walkers sounded better to me he'll think I might change mine
@Smoked_5L
@Smoked_5L 2 года назад
14 inch vs 20,,, there are alot of options in between,,,
@mike_beast_berriosberrios5542
@mike_beast_berriosberrios5542 7 лет назад
ultra flows would make it quieter?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 7 лет назад
The ultra flos were pretty loud; but they were a few years old. The walkers ended up melting and distorting once i turned it up a bit - the car currently runs high 9's. Now I run Jones Full boar mufflers, they're quiet and cost no power (pulled them at the track to test - no difference). I'm sold on those.
@R0yL33
@R0yL33 5 лет назад
Feel like the odd man out... prefer the ultraflows. Walkers a bit too harsh for me. Surprised the walkers were quieter, but over the internet who knows.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
The Walkers were definitely quieter - considering their internals, not surprising (they necked down to under 2.5" internally). The Ultraflos were certainly more "alpha male." The Jones Maxflows I run now are like quieter Ultraflos, but they're better made, look better and are cheaper.
@signoresantinoburnett1169
@signoresantinoburnett1169 5 лет назад
Walker makes it sound muscly
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
Interesting how people view the mufflers differently. Some people thought the Walkers sounded weaker than the Utraflos. Thanks for the comment.
@msg63bretired82
@msg63bretired82 2 года назад
Heluva sleeper
@ahoorakia
@ahoorakia 3 года назад
DYNOMAX is different division of WALKER company, like FORD& LINCOLN, or CHEVY and Buick, or HONDA& ACURA,TOYOTA& LEXUS
@kffive
@kffive 10 лет назад
1:12 Thumbs UP! if you spot the Harbor Freight "Sawzall" $19.99 Of save my butt!
@TheDman216
@TheDman216 8 лет назад
walkers all the way!! Ill bet the drone was gone
@jman0346
@jman0346 12 лет назад
crap... i like em both
@Owmyballsdude
@Owmyballsdude 12 лет назад
Talk about a sleeper! Dude put a grandpa elmer fudd golf hat and then go messing with the Civics.... I would pay money to be in the passenger seat. I would pass out from laughter. What is ~ 1/4 mile time? Cheers
@maximagmhondafan8892
@maximagmhondafan8892 5 лет назад
The walker sounds SOOO much better
@lashlarue7924
@lashlarue7924 7 лет назад
You know, there are a lot of us (like those of us who live in Commonwealths like Virginia *ahem*) who want the performance without the annoying idiotified sound of loud pipes. Lets us keep a shred of dignity as grown-ass men while simultaneously not arousing the ire of the staties in pointy hats and jackboots. I like those Walkers, and I'm glad they didn't rob the performance aspect.
@robertwood9572
@robertwood9572 5 лет назад
Uhh..tbh the Walker's sounded a bit better imo.
@mcleanartists
@mcleanartists 6 лет назад
3" LOL
@coldfirebeats1
@coldfirebeats1 5 лет назад
walker was faster
@rednready182
@rednready182 5 лет назад
Quiet power? Why build a hotrod if noise is a concern. The ultra flos sounds way more ball 🏀- sy. 👍🏼🤘🏼😎
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 5 лет назад
I'm getting older, and have no wish to annoy my neighbors. Nice for it's a screen when you open it up though.
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