E45-6 - Oliver Marmol & Alan Porter Argue After Replay That Helped Oli's Team, Descalso Ejected Too 

It looks like it clipped the top of the zone. He missed two that were more in the zone in the top of the 2nd against the Brewers. Overall 97% accuracy for the game, so he wasn't a problem at all.

@@mse326 I agree the rest of the game was fine, but one very close miss and one less close miss, both on 3-2 counts, one with the bases loaded, is not great. In either case I think it's clear that the call to Hoskins is what Marmol is complaining about here, since he mimes a catcher receiving a pitch at the top of the zone rather than down and in like the one Lindsay mentions in the top of the first.

Im 64 yrs old and have watched baseball since I was 8 yrs old. Its a disgrace that anyone expects any plate umpire to not miss a few pitches. Im so sick and tired of the whining and the amount of balls that batters look at. Swing the damn bat. The box on the tv screen has ruined the game

​@@mse326the 3% of missed pitches matter when they are important pitches. Do you not understand that? Getting ball 4 wrong is much different than getting ball 1 wrong. You take the bat out of a batters hand when you call a ball strike 3. Overall percentage means nothing. Missed pitches is the only metric an umpire should get credit for. 0 missed pitches is the only correct number. Until umpires can get punished for bad performance they should be held to a higher standard. Fire the umpires union.

Yea umpire missed two calls now shown in this video which marmol is upset about. Usually like the videos here but this video is quite biased toward the umps. They were baddd this game

That's EXACTLY what he's saying. Don't blame shitty play, blame someone else. It must be the freakin umpires fault for the Cardinals loosing 7 out of the last 8

Well, if he said "Barber needs a new script for glasses" He gets fined.

Or he’s lying to not get fined

Lie, blame others, play the victim, manipulate, gaslight--whew, issues.

The only time you get fined during interview is if you question the integrity of the umpires such as saying they’re being paid to call one way. Just saying to press they’re bad won’t get you fined.

As a lifelong Cardinals fan, I'm glad to hear that.

that’s what being on a crew with Jim Wolf for two years does to ya. Cant let Wolfie be the only big guy.

⁠@@mattvanderveen4716 😂😂 you got that right!

AP and Wolfie competing. They've got stadium and hotel weight rooms available. 😁🤙💪💪

Can't fault them for being ignorant

Who are those people on the point-counterpoint video? genuinely, ive never heard of the show

@@tw1nn319 It's an old SNL skit

@@joetheumpire It goes back even further, being an actual opinion piece between James Kilpatrick and Shana Alexander on the show 60 Minutes.

He’s already there

White Sox fans wish they had it so good.

Meanwhile, Chip Caray is one of the best play-by-play announcers in any sport, and when he worked with Joe Simpson's color commentary, Braves fans were spoiled by the best!

@@arinerm1331 Got to see him walking around the Battery the night before Game 3 of the World Series in 2021.

Yeah, I loved him as 1/3 of the MV3 back in the day, but Brad Thompson is far and away a better color commentator

did you say FIRE?

It's obvious you've never competed at anything in your life

@@randolphhudson8645 You could not be more wrong. But either way, screaming obscenities at officials does not inspire anything. It is just unprofessional and juvenile.

If the Manager/Coach doesn’t “show” he has his players/staff’s backs, (whether they are right or wrong), NO player would want to play for that Coach…

@@strumbum946you can do it without getting ejected. Mendoza for the mets has done it a ton this season.

@@mbdg6810 - Every group of players are different. It takes different measures to motivate different people. The Cardinals are going through (at the least) their 3rd season in a row with a mediocre to dismal pitching staff. What options does a manager/coach have left when the whole team knows the General Manager and owner will not acquire decent pitchers?

If you are unleashing a stream of profanity laced insults into my face, then you are no friend.

@@johns1039 you wouldn’t have lasted a minute in the 80s.

@@johns1039 i understand what you are saying, I have my limits too, but that’s just you and me. They might not talk to each other like that at all off the field, but on the field maybe they have an understanding with each other.

Comparing umpire mistakes to mistakes by competitors on the field is an interesting argument Cotton.

@@CommonSense823 Uhhhh, ok there, Pepper…welcome back to The Ocho, apparently. It’s an equal comparison but, unequal consequences. Ump makes a mistake on the job…gets grilled by everyone. Coach or player makes a mistake on the job…umpires don’t say squa-doosh to them. Ok, back to dodgeball…we’ve got Czechoslovakia hosting Latvia…

Edmonds is a truly atrocious announcer. They can't get rid of him soon enough.

I hear you, but moving past that ancient philosophy and calling the pitch where it was thrown (not caught!) made me a far better umpire. They want robotic zones, they can have robotic zones.

The issue with having a neutral 3rd party deciding when to initiate challenges is there would inevitably be a play that's missed and not challenged, and we're right back to the fallibility of human judgment. Having team staff as the ones to initiate the challenge puts the onus back on the team.

@@bobloblaw1180 but the point is that no matter what system we use what we are saying is that we are willing to live with blown calls that don’t get reviewed or get reviewed wrong. In the current system we are willing to live with a blown call if the coaching staff doesn’t initiate a review request in time. And we are willing to live with a blown call if the coaching staff doesn’t happen to see it. And we are willing to live with a blown call if the coaching staff is too busy coaching to review the play. And we are willing to live with a blown call if the umpires in NY decide not to overturn it for some reason. So my take is this: get rid of replay review entirely. If we are willing to live with blown calls then why do we have replay? Shouldn’t replay ALWAYS fix a missed call? Even if we have to stop the game for 15 minutes to fix the blown call. Isn’t that the point? Shouldn’t we do everything we can on every play to fix a blown call? It’s so strange to me to have any sort of “limited” replay system. If the goal is to fix blown calls then we should fix ALL blown calls - not just the ones that coaches happen to see or the ones that teams can challenge because they happen to still have challenges left.

It's an entertainment business, everyone in it is a clown.