Eastwood Warren Ellis Tenor Baritone 2P DEMO - RJ Ronquillo 

Well, when it's clean and there's about 5 less guitar players lol

Nice!

A little of column A, a little of column B, I think.

RJ could make an egg slicer sound like a stradivarius so yeah

Fruity Patooties were good

I mean... Warren Elis is a cello player and this is literally his signature guitar XD

Heh. I didn’t expect to see a question like this out of the blue. I’m not planning on using a bass guitar but rather using a cello to emulate this baritone/tenor guitar. The cello simply has more versatility in, well, at least being able to use a bow for single and double stops. But to use a cello like a smaller upright bass with the fingers while grasping the bow in the palm might make it work like: 1. A Lead/vocal harmonizer 2. Rhythm guitar 3. Drone making 4. As a secondary bass for making a two part bass line. I’m planning on releasing music employing full blown polyphony akin to what Bach used interluded with traditional songwriting: you start with the lead guitar, then the rhythm guitar/cello plays the same thing but a third/fourth below, then maybe a cello could play after that as a tenor, and the bass guitar plays the lowest voice before the traditional song plays out. In effect you get a song fuga. Perhaps even the drums could represent part of that structure if they’re tuned correctly. There’s also a surprising number of people making electric mandocellos from guitars.

@@abond623 I forgot about that.

Is it a humbucker pickup in the bridge? (It's not quite clear on the website spec) If yes, how hot is it? Thank you! I'm thinking about getting one too

is the distance between the strings the same as on a normal electric guitar?

@Hendrik Heeren A rather late reply... Slightly wider string spacing (than a Les Paul, for example). HTH

Eastwood now sells the Warren Ellis 5-string tenor guitar tuned the same way!

Have you checked out the whole Warren Ellis series, including the new Octave Mando? eastwoodguitars.com/collections/custom-projects-list/products/warren-ellis-octave-mando

+jason fifi """ so this is just a fretted electric cello""" Not 100%, because even a shortscale bass with picollo strings will have a much longer fretboard and different tension. The sound of all such basses I've ever heard is distinctly more "poppy" than this.

***** yeah, i didn't use "bass" strings for it. only the lowest string was big and fat. i've done it both ways, short-scale and standard J-bass scale, and on a J-bass, i tuned it to the same GDAe with an 18 non-wound E string.. but had a much beefier G and D strings. it had a more aggressive attack, which i think sounded kind of "poppy." the eb-0 scale length probably "needed" bigger strings, but it had a more guitar-like tone and tension, giving it less of an aggressive/sharp attack.

+jason fifi I'm thinking of doing something similar with a standard scale bass. I'm confused, what guage did you use to get the gdae tuning for a guitar-like sound?

TakeMeWithYer a slightly bigger A string for the G string, whatever D string you like from a normal set of bass strings, a slightly smaller G than usual for the A, and an 18 guage nonwound for the high e. on the short scale, i believe i used a 35-40ish for the A string. so, i believe that was a 90, 70, 40, 18 on my old jazz bass. the tension of the scale length gives it a lot of piano-like power in the highs and the butt still sounds like a bass.

Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit does something similar, i.e. using a 4-string baritone-scale guitar with both bass and normal range strings, but he tunes his F#, F# an octave above that, B, E.

lol I thought this was incubus

Hey there! We have the standard Warren Ellis Tenor 2P that might work better for a tuning like that. Check it out: www.eastwoodguitars.com/warren-ellis-signature-tenor-2p-vintage-cream/

Yeah about the same scale as a plectrum guitar or banjo that could be tuned CGBD or DGBE with proper string gauges

Hi there! I know this is a fairly old comment, but you peaked my interest. So, I do hope you don't mind. :) It really depends on how you look at it. If you are a violinist, than this would definitely appeal to you. If you're good with theory, the same theoretical notes (i.e. relating back to the one) are in the same places as on your violin. That would make it really easy to pick up for you (as would mandolin, as it is the same GDAE as a violin). If you are looking at this to start guitar only to move to a six stringed instrument, then this is not for you. Considering the tuning difference with this being in fifths and a six string guitar tuned in fourths (mostly), it would be far easier just to go straight to a six string guitar. Thanks for peaking my interest! Good luck!

Wolf Warren thanks! ;)

what a dumb question.

Randy ThirdSun toxic moron.

Mod it!

@@eastwoodguitarsofficial yep that's what I was thinking. I had a baritone Sidejack before and loved it. I will get one of these ASAP and mod it. I can't wait. :-)

Hi there. Tuned lower than a regular guitar... it's the C below the E of a guitar. You should be fine with either choice - always fun to experiment. And we got a 30-day return policy, too, if you choose to buy directly from our website. Good luck!

It's entirely different chords and scales, so it's like learning a new instrument in many ways. These tenor guitars are traditionally tuned in fifths, whereas the various ukuleles and standard guitar have fourths-based tunings. I do have a tenor guitar that I keep tuned in fourths (ADGC) using the middle four strings from a standard guitar set, but my fourths tenor's strings are A2 to C4. This guitar's range starts way lower than than that... I'm not sure what strings you'd have to use to get a fourths tuning on this thing.

This is a demo of the tenor baritone. If you're going to use the same tuning, a regular tenor guitar would be more suitable, because even with a regular tenor you would still have to uptune from standard tuning to reach those notes.

Wolf Warren Try a website called "Just Strings." They sell individual strings at great prices so you can assemble any kind of custom set you want. Just refer to the string gauges on Eastwood's website and go hog wild! That's how I get custom sets for my Warren Ellis Tenor 2P for restringing to GDAE and open slide tuning.

Horog Péter first song is Foo Fighters - Everlong :D

You might be able to find a short scale bass that you can tune up with appropriate strings. Of course you'll have to deal with the string spacing. Maybe take a look at some hofner or clone instruments. They apparently have a tight bridge spacing and a 30" short scale. Might be a little longer than you want, but it could work okay.

@@somepunkinthecomments471 Yeah when I’ve tried explaining it to other musicians they say “You mean a bass...just get a bass.” I don’t want the strings that spaced out, I don’t want the neck that wide and I need the bridge and pickups set up for an electric guitar, not a bass lol. I think Wes Borland had a 4 string but I’ve never seen a picture of it

@@SMILEY.45 I understand, I've played guitar, bass, bass vi, piccolo bass. Lemme tell you, if you can find a short scale bass with narrow string spacing, even though it will be wider than a guitar, it will suit you just fine, most likely. I started on guitar, then switched to bass, playing it "guitar like", and when I got a bass vi, I realized that a narrow string spacing actually limits what you can play. It limits how much attack you can get without hitting multiple strings, it makes playing drones near a fretted string difficult. All I'm saying is if you try to be picky, you might loose out on experiences that you might actually prefer, that you just have to get used to. But if you are dead set on the narrow guitar spacing, check out dashtick guitars. It might not be your cup of tee, but I think the stuff is cool. He makes custom stuff too. I have no experience btw.

Hi Tim! Chance is not lost, we will have a few more in stock come October this year. Not getting a whole bunch though, so best to express your interest sooner or later. Feel free to contact us via email at support@eastwoodguitars.com

It's a standard sized mini humbucker and our Warren Ellis blade pickup. If you're wanting to mod it, depending what you put in you may have to do some routing.

+Ethan Padden Correct, the baritone has a longer scale length as it is set up to be tuned one full octave below the tuning of the regular tenor. The bodies and electronics, however, are both identical. The default string sizes we ship the baritones with are also, of course, larger to suit the lower tuning.

+eastwood guitars thanks

+eastwood guitars will this also handle a EADG tuning (lower four of guitar)?

Chris Ketner Don't see that being a problem, though you may want to change strings if going to EADG. The low .062 we use for the "C" might be a little too tight tuned to "E"

Don't. This is a tenor guitar, only 4 strings but a different beast altogether... can't imagine anything good coming out of it!

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A guitar with a scale length about the same as a standard electric guitar, and the same number of frets, but with four strings tuned in fifths, just like a violoncello (but fretted and plucked, not unfretted and bowed like the viola family) or a mandocello (but only one string per course, not unison pairs like the mandola family). In that regard, the name "baritone guitar" is correct, as it's a baritone instrument like the cello, but the term "baritone guitar" is already widely understood to mean a six-string guitar with a longer scale length tuned halfway between a standard guitar and a bass (which itself is really a contrabass or double-bass, but I digress). Eastwood should have probably called this one a "guitarcello" to denote its similarity to a mandocello (they, not coincidentally, have about the same scale length.)

@@davezanko9051 Thanks

I thought the same thing at first. But it kind of does make sense, though, admittedly, not a lot of sense. The only reason there is a "tenor" guitar is because it is tuned the same as a "tenor" banjo (which itself was a bit of a misnomer). So the name is more indicative of its family history than its place in the guitar line up. The "baritone" just shows that it is lower than a regular tenor. Considering a baritone guitar usually tunes A to A or B to B, and this is tuned a C below low-E on a guitar, even throwing in the "baritone" might be a tad misleading. A bass guitar is an octave lower than a standard guitar, so maybe this could have been a "bass tenor," or "tenor bass." Again, though, having two indications of pitch range is kind of funky. But, then again, I think that having a "4-string mandocello" might be ambiguous, as that could refer to an instrument with two courses of two strings, or a single two-string course and two single-string courses (like a balalaika with the A-string being turned into a course of two A-strings). I think you're right that a better name probably would have been "octave tenor," but that leads us back to the fact that the name of tenor isn't really indicative of its pitch range. Of course, there are always going to be mis-named instruments, like the English Horn (which is neither English, nor is it really a horn). Oh well.

@@cstarr3240 Yeah, the "tenor" guitar is really an alto instrument (as are the mandola and viola, which have the same tuning) unless one is tuning it to the low fifths "Irish" tuning. Apparently the use of "tenor" to describe those instruments is a British thing. Truth is comparing this to a regular six-string guitar for naming purposes is tough because It's a whole separate tuning family, with this being the cello of the family, and the tenor being the viola. (A four-string electric mandolin, which Eastwood also has as part of the Warren Ellis series, is the treble instrument, like the violin, with the bonus that it can be tuned like a ukulele). Personally, in keeping with the convention of the mandocello and violoncello (to use its full name), I would have called this a guitarcello.

the neck seems to be a bit slimmer than that of a bass

@@NikolajLepka And shorter by about 8 inches.

@@davezanko9051 you can have basses with guitar-length necks though

@@NikolajLepka True, short scale basses do exist, but even there they're usually at least 30 inches, and far less common than the standard 34 inches. But the biggest difference here is the tuning, with this being tuned C2-G2-D3-A3, like a cello, not E1-A1-D2-G2, like a double bass.

Get on with the program, dude! LOL