Chris, one of the biggest reasons why most people like watching even though they don’t do anything with fires or firewood is you have an awesome personality. 😎
The reason the CS590 is such a good saw, once Echo group bought out Shindaiwa, they rebranded the Shindaiwa 600sx, as the CS590, Japanese made pro saw, full aluminium crankcase, full crankshaft, no plastic engine parts like Stihl Farmboss etc. and the anti vibe on these are great! I love mine, so it cutting 32” hardwood on my channel.
I have done several reviews of Echo power products on my channel including chainsaws and trimmers. I have been beyond impressed! The value for the price is without comparison. They truly have entered into the race with Husqvarna and Stihl especially with their "X" series which is their professional line. My only complaint is they tend to come out of the factory tuned a little too lean. Great video! 👍
I own both saws. 590 and 271. My 590 starts fast, cuts fast. Over all a better quicker saw over the 271. My 590 is always the first one out of the truck too cut. If anyone is reading this comment. Consider buying this saw. It’s a great buy. You won’t be disappointed. The crazy thing is that the 271 and 590 is at the same price point. So you know what your buying around $400. 590 is a monster
So that's a good reason to compare the two saws. I was wondering why anyone would compare a pro saw to a regular consumer grade saw. I never really check out anything but pro saws, to get the better design and build quality they have. So I didn't know they cost about the same price. Thanks for mentioning the basic cost they both share. I'd choose the Echo too, between those two saws. 😎👍
Great job on comparing the saws, Michelle seems more relaxed on today's video, it's always nice when folks show up and jump right in to help out, what a guy Dave is...lol. Greta job wood hounds
The cs590s are good saws they need a little more exhaust and they come alive take and open up the deflector that sits on top off the spark arrestor. And also break off those plastic tabs on the carb adjustments and the saw wakes rite up. I have one and I love it
I own 2 Stihls, and 1 Husqvarna, and my father-in-law has an Echo (I've also got a Makita, a Homelite, a Ryobi and an Ozito, all of them 2 stroke). For what it's worth, if I had to choose one to keep and never go back, it would be the Echo, and it's not even mine! Throttles up hard, dogs in nicely, easy to clean, and just seems to want to keep going, even when I don't. If you ever see one on special, buy one to be your second string saw - best bargain you'll score in a fair while. 👍🇦🇺🙂
I recently purchased a Echo CS 590 and I am very impressed. The first thing I used it for was bucking some red oak that was 18-22" and about 40' long. With the 20", I had to double cut the thickest pieces, but it handled the tough oak with ease. It should get better with a few more tanks of gas. Down here they retail for $399 with a 20" bar. Better performance than the Stihl Farm Boss or Husqvarna Rancher at a better price. Longevity seems to be good too, but we'll see. I was also surprised at no gloves. If I only have one piece of PPE, it's my gloves. To each his (or her) own.
We have a timberwolf cs590 at work and I have abused the shit out of that saw and its is impressive I like it better than my personal stihl. I've ran it for non stop 8hr days only stopping to sharpen and fuel up and it keeps coming back for me. I'm 100% a fan of echo after that saw
The Echo saws are very nice saws, my 590 is a great cutting saw, I went out and got a new Echo CS4510 (45cc) saw to have a smaller saw for limbing. The MS180 is getting tired out after 25 years
Good mornig there woodchucking Chris, when you first started chucking those rounds, I thought for sure you were going to take out your tripod, lol. Great comparison between the two. I have had the echo cs590 since spring and love it. I also have the good ole stihl 066 with 36" bar for huge stuff and couple older homelite xl's for trim saws. I'm all over the board with saws and as long as they stay tuned and sharp, they all work great for me. Enough rambling, lol. Chris and and wood-hound friends, God bless and be safe!
I must make a confession Chris. I recently purchased an Echo CS-680. It is considered to be in the 70cc series along with the 572 Husky saws. I do like it. I bought it used from a guy who said it was too much saw for him. Got it for $350. I am not ready to replace the 572's with this unit but it seems to be a good saw. The Husky has a little more power as it is a little larger saw. The auto-tune is a little advantageous as well. However, for the difference in price [new ~$700] versus the Husky 572 [new ~$1100] it is worth considering for some people. Just my 2 cents worth.
Bought the CS-590 with the 20" bar and the price point was better than an equal Stihl. It is more top of the line consumer model with the right amount of pro level items, but I just have a few acre to maintain and it is more than adequate saw for my needs.
My Echo CS-590 is a great running saw! Once broke-in, it runs really well for what it is. In my opinion, it has more torque than the Stihl or Husqvarna equivalent, which allows it to run a 24in bar better. Would love to do a side-by-side speed test with Michele's 271 and my 550xp. Maybe one day a bunch of us woodhounds can get together at Chris's woodyard and speed test our saws in a nice collaboration video. Bet Michele got some great in person lessons on how to work a log pile. I know I did when Chris visited my woodyard.
You have the right brand. No need to change. I own two tree companies and a firewood company and every cut is done with a Husqvarna. Best all around saws you can buy in my opinion. I’ve tried them all. Echo is second
Good morning Chris! Its a beautiful day to be "cuttin". Thanks for another awesome video. I'm glad you showcased Michelle's Echo chainsaw. Like you, I do like Japanese products. I've used Echo products (lawnmowers, trimmers..) for years and they are good. They've never failed me yet. By the way, what average size are those logs before you cut them down?
Neat opportunity to test drive Michele’s Echo. Pro version might be worth trying out if service, bars and chain availability, etc are even up or better than what you’ve been running.
The 590 is built of mostly pro construction. The top handle and clutch cover are plastic. I replace the handle with an aluminum full wrap for the 620p. I also have a 620p and the 590 runs with it almost identical. I’d only give the 620 a slight edge. I love both though.
@@livewithnick Thanks for info based on your firsthand experience. My current stable of saws are all Stihl pro series saws at this point… that’s why after stepping up from the Farm Boss to a MS462 and 500i, I was blown away by the upgrade in power and cutting efficiency. So, I would recommend those who cut a lot and can invest in their tools, give the pro series saws a try to see what gains in power and productivity they offer. I have had great service out of Echo trimmers and blowers, but with a super Stihl dealer within a mile, I haven’t tried Echo’s chainsaws.
I told you Echo's were no joke lol. If your serious about Echo, jump to the CS620P, its still a 59cc saw but built a bit more for commercial use with aluminum handle, Magnesium crankcase cover and the sprocket is replaceable and my dealer said the piston and airflow are different but that could have been him blowing smoke, lol. One of the best things is the price...a 620P is about half the price of a Husquvarna or Sthil. If you end up with an Echo 590 or 620P one thing you want to do is buy a set of o rings and put the right size on the air filter nub that goes into the carb area, the air filter is really good but I guess you can get some finer dust going by it.
Sorry to disagree Tom but the Echo CS800P is garbage. The only really great Echo’s currently made are the CS620P and the CS7310P. If your a tree climber the CS2511T is OK because of weight but lacks power due to the restrictions on the muffler. The rest of the lineup needs a refresh like the CS7310P.
If I was to get back into firewood I would go with axis that Ohio wood burner has with lift on 1 side and a conveyer on the other. I know I would have big wood to deal with. I like echo saws better then sthil and I own/operate husqvarna saws now and my next saw I buy will most likely be an echo. Have a great day be safe.
Wow that 590 was pig rich 😂 Should try a properly tuned 620p totally different animal They have a metal handle not plastic. Rim drive sprocket Different timing numbers and piston along with coil and carburetor A stock 620p will pull a 24 full house with AUTHORITY I can definitely appreciate a female doing the firewood thing tho
Hey Chris the cs 620p is the pro version of the 590. It comes with a metal handle a little better clutch. And also a two ring piston. I kind of wish I would have bought the cs 620p. I'm perfectly happy with my 590 timberwolf.
Good Morning Chris - Hey, do we hear an Echo in the woodyard? I like Michelle. Not a lot of words, but a person that knows what they like, and Michelle is comfortable in the Woodyard. Your reviews of other equipment have value since you can compare them to your regular saws. Your comments carry weight and you clearly state what you do or don't like and why. Right off the bat, I thought that magnet mounted width gauge would be in the way, and it was. but with the longer bars, one seldom needs to bring the saw that close in, especially when you are bending over or reaching into the pile. I subscribed to Michelle's channel.
Nice to see the Echo and Stihl in action, thank you. One can only compare/contrast what's at hand. Just checked prices on Australian Stihl and Echo web sites Stihl MS 271, 50.2cc, $999 Au Echo CS-590, *59.8cc, $1,449 Au* Key variables not controlled = unfair comparison. A practically perfect price and cc match to the Echo CS-590 for comparison is: Stihl MS 311, *59cc, $1,449 Au* Key variables matching nicely = fair test design Also: HUSQVARNA 460, *60.3cc, $1,439 Au* Would match/control these prime variables for a fair comparison. I like to see vids comparing price and cc matched chainsaws, in same wood with same cutter and with chain freshly sharpened and raker matched i.e. variables considered well. Honest and competent information (with well designed and implemented tests) is rare on YT and could be a stand out. Would you consider pre-planning and putting some in with the full power of your competence and professionalism? sincerely david
@@InTheWoodyard Good ideas ... I though so but on second thought ... not so good unless well thought out. There are a lot of such attempts and most fail on YT because many are looking for a winner or meaningful results ... and they just can't be given unless you use such a thing to show the really meaningful result, which is not what most are looking for! Some videos become YT benchmarks, standards that are referred to. e.g. YT vids of how much does a cord of wood weigh, do one or two names/channels come to mind? It might be possible to make a series of little benchmarks that become a solid benchmark and set your channel up as a standard setter in this way but more so than the cord of wood example. The initial objective would be to do a series of well designed, controlled tests on price and cc matched saws *always with the same/similar test conditions.* I think you could do this well. I have some more thoughts on how to go about this solidly, simply and effectively. If you're interested it could become a little world changer because it's mostly not the saw - it's the man/woman. sincerely david
Hello from Piqua Ohio. I have that cs590 timberwolf 20 inch bar. I also have the cs7310 p with a 28 inch bar and the cs800p 32 inch bar. All very reliable chainsaws.
Wonder what Chris would have to say if a bunch of us snuck into his woodyard and bucked up a truckload of logs for him. Getting exercise while doing hard physical labor is so satisfying.
I have an echo timberwolf 590 i like it but started having carb issue where it wouldn't stay running or it would run where chain would turn at idle. I tried adjusting carb but didn't get good results either way. I like saw but might need a new carb or have shop look at it. I love my ms261 pro saw light has power and with the pro chain it cuts alot better than safety chains.
I have used Stihl for decades, and that is the rub my 041’s and 028’s measured there service life in decades not years (nowadays you might be lucky to get 10 years) I have a new 362 and its a great saw but so is my Echo 355t, I have to admit Echo is making some great saws these days but they are both moving toward big box retailer growth and thats usually the kiss of death for quality.
This video makes it pretty obvious as to why you like the 24" bars and gutsy saws. You are as good with the front 1/3 of the bar as anyone I've ever seen, but look so much more comfortable and balanced with the long bar and power. Did you let her try one of your saws?
The CS-590 Timber wolf is not their pro saw, in that size the pro saw is a CS-620P. It has a bigger carb and unlimited coil. However you can greatly improve the CS-590 with a 10 minute muffler mod. That said the CS-590 is the best under $500 saw out there. You can still get them with bar and chain for around $400. The CS-62P has about 25% more power but couple hundred bucks more. P.S. you can buy after market spikes for the CS-590 you just have to Dremel out the small plastic and then you can run felling spikes from both sides.
I'm glad you did the Echo CS590 it's what I use as my big saw. RU-vidr Tinman Saws does a good series of videos on this model on how to liven it up, if that's your thing. In not bothering it's fine for me as is. Plus for $400 it's a good deal, and there warranty is better than stihl and Husky.
Chris, you could not sit back as others cut or split. If you had premium firewood that would be how you spent your day. Was great to watch you use the echo.
I have found out over the years,, if you can cut from the bottom up ,, the blade stays cooler ,,, it cleans out better ,,, using the top part of the bar the chain stays oiled better ,, it cleans the saw dust out good and you don't have to run your saw at such a HIGH RPM...
@@InTheWoodyard you will learn ... WATCH THE KICKBACK.. WHEN YOU GET TIME ON A SAW YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT( MEANING NO DISRESPECT) ON DIFFERENT PART OF A LO YUO WILL KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE TO LAY INTO A SAW AND GIVE IT MORE RPMS. AFTER THAT CHAIN GOES AROUND THE TIP OF BAR IT LOOSES 2/3 OF ITS OIL..
My father and I used to have a small engine business and sold echo. I wouldnt buy anything else. Take a husky over a stilh anymore. Stilh is more of a name brand anymore. Echo also has a 5 year consumer warranty. Cant beat that. Have 3 echo saws myself.
The echo 590 is a home owner model ,the 620p is the pro model there are many differences in the 2 saws. the echo 7310p is ecos largest pro saw they are nice saws
Hey Chris. Great video. Just saying before you buy that size of echo if your really thinking about it, try the husky 562xp first. Then make your decision. I got nothing against echo. Been trying one some at work but I do love my 562xp. I grab my 562xp more often than my 572xp just because it lighter and seems to have a bit more throttle response than my 572xp and revs a wee bit higher than my 572xp.
@@InTheWoodyard 590 is restricted by coil n carb for emissions they are like a govenor on a 4 stroke, wanna see a step by step process look up tinmans saws on here he pulled one apart and ported it qnd threw 620 parts on it took a little adjusting but he got the cut time down a crazy ammount
I guess that makes you the supervisor now because I scored the cutting a dead heat and Michelle is way better looking. There's a new wood chuck in town. Long live the Queen. I got a new Stihl 180 a while ago and it's an angry ant cutting through limb wood and smaller trees. It's the only saw I've ever run where I wasn't looking forward to putting it down.
Now when you’re done with those farm & fleet toyland playskool saws (this includes the husky’s), grapple on a Dolmar. Nothing but big eyes and st,st, studders
IMO, this is not exactly a fair comparison. A 60cc Echo with a pro chain vs a 50cc Stihl with a safety chain. I'm an Echo fanboy, but I also think Stihls are good saws too. BTW, my main saw is a CS-590 (which is probably why this video popped up in my feed). I DO like the fact that the 60cc Echo has less vibration than a 50cc Stihl. I also like that the Echo is cheaper too, at least around here. Hard to beat the value of the Echo.
@@InTheWoodyard so is there a parts dealer near you ,to where you can buy your parts (on sight ) and get back out cutting wood ,,,??? daylight hours are short ,,,, I need to keep cutting .. with no delays ... or waiting for parts...
@@InTheWoodyard I was just kind of missing around the eco 590 is a great saw I think it's the design that feels heavy to me I rather get the572 or the 462 but, the 590 does kick ass.
I have the pro version of the Echo CS590, which is not a pro saw like she mentioned, it is maybe farm and ranch. The pro version is called an Echo CS620P(W) (W for full wrap). Great saw. Not sure if it is as good as my Husqvarna 562XP (improved air filter version) as the air filter sucks on the Echo. Great power for a 60cc saw though and with the Echo name you know it will last forever. Chris I think you would love the Husqvarna 550XP Mark II in wood that size with a good sharp chain. That thing rips! Stick to the 572XP for the larger stuff.
The pro version of the Echo CS-590 is 620P, standard front handle. Has a different carb, coil, piston, front handle is metal instead of plastic, magnesium clutch cover...
@@thefirewooddoctor I agree I hate it. It was my first saw I bought for our tree service and I now have 9 more none with a full wrap. I was so impressed with that Echo I bought 3 more but that was the only impressive one besides the just OK T2511T. I then tried a Makita 7900 and that is not great either. I switched to Husqvarna (395XP, 572XP, 562XP, 550XP Mark II and a battery T540iXP). All 5 saws are amazing. My coworkers use Stihl but I prefer Husqvarna and most of the cutting is done with my Husqvarna’s.
