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EcoFlow Wave 2 - Actual Runtime Testing and True Performance!? The First Portable AC & Heater! 

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@greengooseman
@greengooseman 10 месяцев назад
I bought a cheap pair of mens XXL sweat pants from Walmart. I inserted the exhaust hose into one leg of the sweatpants, across the hip section and out the other leg. made a great insulative sleeve.
@GranTigerGaming
@GranTigerGaming 6 месяцев назад
Did it look like a robot doing a flying drop kick? :D
@martymiller9802
@martymiller9802 6 месяцев назад
Good thinking.
@josephjuno9555
@josephjuno9555 3 месяца назад
Maybe put the Hot tube thru both legs? Does the other leg get warm or cool?
@josephjuno9555
@josephjuno9555 3 месяца назад
I wud be putting this I,side a Promaster van. I wish u had tried that test with in inside truck cab vented exhaust to outside?
@SamiNami
@SamiNami 2 месяца назад
I don't think that will insulate the heat very well
@todd.parker
@todd.parker Год назад
Great video Jason. You have by far the best data on the Wave 2's performance and runtimes. Worth the wait!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Thanks, Todd! Your review video covers some excellent points as well. I loved your camper van experiment! These are pretty useful devices.
@rnrider1978
@rnrider1978 Год назад
Jason, nice review, where did you get that piece or what is that piece called (the one that goes between the window) to intake and exhaust the air please?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
@@rnrider1978 I built it myself out of a 4x8 foot of insulation foam from home depot.
@caver6292
@caver6292 4 месяца назад
Works well enough, achieved 15 degree difference (which felt cool inside the square drop trailer-in the shade, the lowered humidity helped a lot too) in 95F and 80% humidity weather here in Florida. I was also running two small USB powered fans to circulate the cooler air. My main complain is not being able to mechanically/manually set the unit to external drainage. Every time the unit shuts down the drainage is reset to internal, which in turn shuts down the unit when really full, which happens a heck of a LOT here in Florida. The hoses, being proprietary sizes are also a PITA to hook up to anything commonly used in small trailers. The Wave 2 was outside the small square drop due to space issues, I also wish the company made a raincoat for the unit.....
@revfatman
@revfatman Год назад
I have to say that this was one of the most in-depth reviews that I have seen of the Wave 2. I applaud you on your hard work. I do wish that you had done the test that you alluded to - placing the Wave 2 inside the truck camper and exhausting it as you did inside your house. That is the way this thing was designed to be used and it HAS to make a big difference because you would be recirculating the already cooled air instead of constantly introducing and having to heat the 100+ degree air from outside. Every reviewer I have watched has made this same mistake, and I really would like to know what the difference would actually be. Thank you for being the first one to actually acknowledging the fact that it could have been done that way at least. It would be awesome if you could run the test that way and do a Short on the results. BTW I am not intending to come off rude or negative, I was just really excited at your level of testing and was hoping someone had finally given me the info I have been looking for! Thanks for the diligence of your reviews!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
I'll think about making a custom tailgate insert for the truck to test that out. I agree that it would be more effective to have the unit inside the truck and expelling out hot air.
@NoZenith
@NoZenith Год назад
Haven't watched it yet but I wanted to put some words here for the algorithm since I just found your channel and it has been an extremely helpful resource in understanding power-station functionality. Thank you very much for this content, I just don't want to forget to say that when the videos over😊
@adlerz5433
@adlerz5433 2 месяца назад
I don’t know if you touch on this in the video but the dual hose design and heat exchanger is really unique and prevents negative pressure in a room this is rlly important for efficiency
@adamtedder700
@adamtedder700 Год назад
Great video, just what i've been waiting for. See what run times are on the delta 2 max, and delta two.
@johntate5284
@johntate5284 Год назад
Probably the main reason you weren't getting that much cooling in the truck cab, was that the cooling loop was compromised. When you were running the unit inside, the unit takes the room air in and then cools it, and is a closed loop. When you were running it outside you were running it in an open loop configuration and the pressure was no loner net zero. It would be like trying to run a refrigerator by just bringing in room air instead of recirculating the cool air inside. I have seen other people tackle the cab cover issue by building a plug that sits in place of the tailgate (just a bigger piece of foam with the same two holes, which retains the net zero pressure operation and leaves to cooling loop closed. Even with no cab cover insulation, a smaller unit was able to keep the truck bed much cooler, even in the desert. I am actually considering one of these for my car, as it is much cheaper than having the car AC unit repaired. Thanks for another great review!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Thanks John, I totally agree! I debated about building a custom tailgate from insulated foamboard and I still might. Overall this is an impressive unit. Lots of different use cases.
@johntate5284
@johntate5284 Год назад
@@Jasonoid Amazon has the Wave 2 (with no battery) for $909!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
@@johntate5284 that's a decent price!
@toxichammertoe8696
@toxichammertoe8696 3 месяца назад
I'm glad you did a test in the middle of the day to test it. Great video
@RandiG63
@RandiG63 Год назад
Thanks Jason 👍 I could see that working great in our shed/garage.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
These work pretty well for a smaller space and being able to run it off a power station and solar is awesome!
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
​@@JasonoidHBOTECH said in at his secret lab he will INSTALL permanently on a shelf the W2 with Renogy 450w Solar panel attached. HBOTECH knows whats awesome. Not sure if his current small window AC unit will become a PaperWeight.
@flolou8496
@flolou8496 2 месяца назад
A really good test that I don't see anyone doing on RU-vid is demonstrating how long the Wave2 can run in a car or van when it's been charged via the Ecflow 800.00 Adaptor where it get's it's power off the regular car battery, (there are so many people posting videos on RU-vid about how they're suffering in the heat living in there cars, when they have a source of power for air conditioning in the form of there ICE vehicles, (with the ICE engine turned off) they just don't know how to convert that ICE Power to power the Ecoflow product lines of the adaptor and WAVE 2 , so at a minimum they probably can sleep at night more comfortably when it's over 90 degrees still in there car.
@davehudson5589
@davehudson5589 Месяц назад
Great video - would have liked to see how it performs in heating mode….
@smol_yote
@smol_yote 3 месяца назад
11:35, you’ve created a thermal battery at that point. By cooling with excess power at noon you don’t need to use as much precious battery power in the evening to maintain the same temperature
@jmrdrgz
@jmrdrgz 11 месяцев назад
I have the unit and not sure how impressed I am with it yet. I don't like that you have to use Ecoflow battery banks for the DC option only. I wish you could use something else. Here is something for you to try, which I think would work. 1. If there could be a way to put a little bit of the cold air coming out into the intake to lower the intake air, that would lower the out cold air. I routed my tube from the cold coming out to the intake and that made the Wave 2 temperature drop significantly. 2. I wonder if it would cool better if you used the heating function, since the exhaust would be cold and you have more BTUs.
@pje3325
@pje3325 4 месяца назад
Really well done. Tnx for all your hard work and research in this!
@dionwatters992
@dionwatters992 28 дней назад
You can buy insulated flex duct and slide it over your hoses to completely block most of the heat transfer from the ducts. also, the reason you got such poor results on your truck was because you had the unit outside, and it was having to heat the outside air as it pulled it into the front evap coil and try to cool it. I bet the air duct temp wasn't as cold as it was when you had it indoors.
@TURKTURKiYE
@TURKTURKiYE Месяц назад
Thanks from Istanbul
@jamesdean7756
@jamesdean7756 2 месяца назад
I don’t have the extra battery. Can this be powered by the delta max alone or does it have to be delta TWO max. I can’t find this answer anywhere.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 месяца назад
It should run off any power station model that has the ecoflow xt150 port.
@Steve-ph4ec
@Steve-ph4ec 10 месяцев назад
For your AC DC average power usage comparison, I’m curious if the in/out hoses were connected to exhaust compressor heat? Reviewer “Misprounced Adventurers” on Sept 10, 2023 found similar AC vs DC power use in contrast to your finding differences. Could be useful to also track humidity vs time, using a similar Govee device.
@pje3325
@pje3325 4 месяца назад
Great review! Wish the “puppy” worked via dc w the ecoflow power kits. Just purchased a wave 2 w delta max 2 combo. W the current sale, better bang for buck than w the wave battery!
@adrianjos04
@adrianjos04 14 дней назад
Wouldnt it be more efficient to allow the intake suck in air from the room instead of sucking in the hot air from outside
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 12 дней назад
Yes, if I ever run this test again, I will have the AC in the truck bed with exhaust going out.
@davidk6668
@davidk6668 Год назад
I have a tear drop camper that I would like to cool down at night for sleeping comfort. The inside dimensions are 5x4x8 feet so not that big of space to cool and the camper does have some insulation. My biggest concern is recharging the battery system during the day just using the vehicles 12 volt system as I drive. I have room for solar panels on roof of camper however cannot always rely on the sun. Which battery system would you recommend and what would be the best way to charge this as I travel down the road? Thanks
@demonhogo
@demonhogo 11 месяцев назад
Definitely need to recirculate the cabin air to get best results I think
@anthonym5395
@anthonym5395 Год назад
Excellent research Jason!! I use an EcoFlow Wave 2 connected to a Delta 2 Max with an additional D2 battery for 4096Wh (and a measly 320W solar but it holds its own), it works great. The weakest link in the entire setup is also the cheapest part - the exhaust hose! Your loss of energy through its thin plastic is insane. I'm sure a towel can help reduce that loss but I use an insulated 6 inch exhaust hose from Amazon. I haven't run a thermal camera on it but if I had to guess it's well below 100 degrees even after being used for hours.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Great recommendation for the insulated exhaust hose! Is it a specific size or brand?
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
​@@JasonoidI use De'Longhi Insulated Hose Cover for Portable Air Conditioners (), DLSA003 It emits No Order. Insulates 5 inch exhaust hose Extremely well.
@GeorgeOu
@GeorgeOu Год назад
Probably a lot more efficient if you spaced out the exhaust from the intake! You don't want to feed the exhaust back into the intake!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Probably!
@Jonboy4371
@Jonboy4371 10 месяцев назад
I would like to see a test with the unit sitting inside the cab of a truck. I use my truck in south Texas as an office for 12 hours at a time. I would love to see if this could keep truck cab cool to at least 72°. Thanx . Setting it outside and running the duct work through the window is not an option
@TravelExplorer2040
@TravelExplorer2040 8 месяцев назад
Everybody got paid suspensor I don’t see till now any body do temp test before and after in van or rv summer time
@jcadag8789
@jcadag8789 Месяц назад
Hi! Using AC power while in eco mode will it consume lower than 238 Watts or it just stay that way until it reach the set temp then the compressor is turning slow consuming lower amount of power like those small 1 hp split type full inverter air conditioner?
@The1980toyota
@The1980toyota 10 месяцев назад
Is it thermostatically controlled? If it is maintaining the warmth of a tiny camper and is cutting in and out. Runtimes will be much longer I would think.
@m5research915
@m5research915 4 месяца назад
How does the unit deal with water condensate. I know they inject it into the exhaust. I have a dual tube stand alone unit from a different vendor. But on really damp days in heat mode or really damp days in cool mode the unit can condense more water than can be exhausted? How did the EcoFlow engineers solve this?
@greengooseman
@greengooseman 10 месяцев назад
Buy another set of hoses. They will be longer than the ones that came with it. Connect the hose to the outlet adapter and insert conditioned air directly into your sleeping bag. If you can insert it into the bottom of your bag…. Perfect even on eco mode
@mats77
@mats77 4 месяца назад
I've been thinking about snagging one of these during the anniversary sale and wanted to see what people may advice in my specific situation. This product is a no brainer camping in a minivan (Sienna) for cooler temperatures during the night in hotter climate (Texas etc). I understand the limitations of the product but would only need it to keep temperature comfortable overnight in the warmer months of the year. My plan would be to use the vans own AC to cool it before bedtime, and then run the Wave2 in eco mode to keep things at a comfortable level while sleeping. It looks like it's perfect for this. The ONE concern that I have is the battery and being able to use it more than one night without shore power.. I'm assuming it will drain most of the attached battery over night, and while I have 2 solar panels, it's only 230w (100 + 130). Will this even be close to enough to top up the battery for night 2 and onward or will the capacity just get smaller for each night ? lol? Is this a scenario that makes sense if I'd need to use it for several night out in the middle of nowhere? I do see that they sell the 800w alternator charger, so I guess that could be a way to recharge it while running the car for faster top up, but then you do have to run the car a long time... What say y'all?
@daviedood2503
@daviedood2503 2 месяца назад
So whatever room you're in, it only drops the temp like max 5 to 6 degrees for about a couple hours then u gotta recharge for 3 to 4 hours. Then it'll run for another couple hours, lower the temp a few degrees, then recharge it again for few hours.. 1,200 bucks to get that results... Damn man idk. 😬 People are wanting results that are closer to an actual window unit. Doesn't have to be EXACTLY like a window unit, but a hell of alot closer than these results especially at that price range. Can run an actual window unit off that eco flow delta 2 for that hour and a half and get better numbers. Per manufacturer, the 2 solar panels recharge the station in 3 hours and then u can turn the actual window ac unit back on for a couple hours. Seems better results than this 😬🔥
@NoZenith
@NoZenith Год назад
Came back to watch this again because I am trying to budget some large purchases for next year's camping and this winter backup power... I'm seriously looking at the Delta 2 Max and the Wave 2 and skip the Wave 2 battery with all of its ridiculous limitations like having to be plugged in to charge and not having any way to really use the power other than a USB port, so it's not even a good backup battery to run a refrigerator or anyting, along with its much lower charging input capacity. Just putting that money into a Delta 2 seems smarter but the Delta 2 Max gives a lot more functionality
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Going with the Delta 2 would give you similar run-times but much more functionality since it's a full power station.
@NoZenith
@NoZenith Год назад
@Jasonoid I'm glad you agree with that thought. I think your review of the max makes me lean that way for the additional investment, because it gets you 2 solar input ports so you can plug in to the car and a solar panel to get more juice on cloudy days and the increased capacity gives a bit of buffer to make sure you're not fully discharging the battery for added longevity. It would probably last me for a good decade and be a really good option for a few days of no power to run my house fridge
@garynelson1039
@garynelson1039 Год назад
Can I just confirm that you were able to run it via an expansion battery? Ecoflow told me this didn't work when I directly asked them (which seemed very stupid to me). I have one and it takes about an hour to have any impact on a 3mx3m room but is then effective.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
It works just fine off my Delta 2 and Delta 2 Max batteries. They charge and discharge just like the official add on battery.
@garynelson1039
@garynelson1039 Год назад
@@Jasonoid Thanks so much for replying. I live on a 65 x12ft Widebeam canal boat in the UK which I am currently just about able to run, during the summer, using the AC200max (with B300 battery) and love watching your channel. This is the official response from Ecoflow " The Delta 2 extra battery can't be connected to Wave 2. So it can't charge the extra battery." It made no sense to me so I am really happy to know it does work especially given the difference in battery chemistry.
@sawyerwaterman5846
@sawyerwaterman5846 6 месяцев назад
My guy thank you
@arachnidkalven
@arachnidkalven 6 месяцев назад
Would really like to know if it works with only the delta 2 external battery?
@jasons8104
@jasons8104 3 месяца назад
I’m interested in the Wave2 for power outages to cool upstairs bedroom (12x12) in Houston, hot humid summers. I would power using small generator, hence wanting a very efficient option. I don’t want to install window units temporarily in 2nd floor window and the “portable “ ac are not efficient, running 1100 watts or so. I want something I can easily store, set up, and efficient. But will it cool bedroom down from 88 degrees or so?
@alejandrohagad628
@alejandrohagad628 2 месяца назад
Depending such as the size of the room, insulation (such as windows), and of course amount of people that will be residing in that room, it should lower the temp below 88.
@jasons8104
@jasons8104 2 месяца назад
@@alejandrohagad628 thanks. I used it this week post hurricane, but in end decided to return it. While it could get the room to a comfortable 78 degrees, it worked really hard doing it. For the price I think I will get any shaped inverter AC and put that in the window.
@alejandrohagad628
@alejandrohagad628 2 месяца назад
@@jasons8104 I live in Houston myself, hopefully center point got your power back. Decided to go ahead and make the purchase on this unit and see if this will work on my camper van. I go to the Texas Medical Center and park the camper van at the hospital parking lot, would be interesting to see if this will help cool it down to help me sleep during the day (I'm a night shift travel RN). If all else fails, I'll just return it back to Amazon and do what you did and just get any shaped inverter AC + generator.
@fabiangerman6932
@fabiangerman6932 2 месяца назад
Hey Jason Thanks for the video, got a question if wanna use the wave 2 just as AC for a room do I have to use the ducts? I just want to be sure about it before I install everything!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 месяца назад
You'll need to exhaust the hot air out of the room somehow or it won't do any cooling. That works best using the ducts and a window.
@gerryperia7871
@gerryperia7871 5 месяцев назад
Can we use this ecoflow in Hawaii, Jakarta, Vietnam, or the PHilippines? Does it carry 220 Volts and 50 and 60 h? Can you shipped this overseas like Vietnam or PHilippines?
@mmunoz5875
@mmunoz5875 3 месяца назад
Great video. I wanted to ask if this will work with no issues using a 200w solar panel setup? I'm currently using 2 Renogy solar panels (200 watt) with a Renogy Rover 40 Amp 12V/24V DC input MPPT solar charger and a Renogy 2000W Pure Sine Wave Inverter 12VDC to 120V AC Converter? I also have a LifePo4 Battery 100Ah 12V 1280Wh Deep Cycle Lithium Iron Phosphate battery. With this setup the only thing I have plugged into the inverter in my camping fridge.
@tedfort1698
@tedfort1698 2 месяца назад
That system wouldn't be nearly enough to run it consistently. You'd likely need 600W of solar and probably 400aH of battery.
@chrisreynolds6331
@chrisreynolds6331 Год назад
Looks like a great unit. I wonder do you have to use their own battery or can you use any lifepo4 battery?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
To run off DC power it need to be their power station or battery (using the xt150 port). If you want to run it off a larger LFP battery / inverter / solar setup it uses a little more power (since it's AC) but it still works great that way too! For example I run this off my AC500 inverter / solar everyday through my transfer switch and its been great.
@shelley131
@shelley131 Год назад
I run a window unit 5000 btu in a gazelle gazebo deluxe and with this Texas heat it struggles. But at night it is cooler than the ambient temp allowing you to sleep comfortable for a few hours. Problem with the window unit is that they don't have the exhaust hoses so you must capture all the water it produces in a plastic storage container. Does the wave produce water like regular window units? Thank you for your hard work on your videos. One more thing I have two Delta max's not the Delta 2's, will it work with the wave.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
This will work with any Delta power station, gen 1 or gen 2. It has a feature to evaporate the condensate water if the humidity is low enough while in AC mode. Since I live in a desert I haven't had to use the water drain and it evaporated it through the exhaust. If you live in a humid place, it has a drain that pumps into a bucket of your choice. (heater mode always requires a bucket).
@m5research915
@m5research915 4 месяца назад
@@Jasonoid Is it an actual pump? Can it pump the water outside?
@markkenton4945
@markkenton4945 4 месяца назад
Will the Ecoflow Max 2000 power the Wave II via smart battery DC port?
@iamkeebz
@iamkeebz 6 месяцев назад
Is there a condensation drip tube? Where does it dump the condensation it collects?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 6 месяцев назад
It does have a condensation tube, it pumps out through a pump. I just have it sitting in a bucket.
@markcrew3696
@markcrew3696 3 месяца назад
I don't think no one has touched on pass through charging where the unit is sitting by itself with the battery and hooked up to a DC source say in your car. Will you be able to run the unit and charge the unit at the same time say through your cigarette lighter I know it's just a hundred Watts or some sort of DC booster. Remember this is just the unit with its battery sitting in your car without any solar generator hooked up.
@jaysonstebbins2539
@jaysonstebbins2539 9 месяцев назад
I had a question. Can you have the wave 2 plugged into a delta pro AND have solar hooked up to the wave 2 as well? Or have the wave 2 plugged into a wall socket (or Delta pro) and solar plugged into the wave 2 at the same time? Thanks Jason! Hope I made sense. Basically I have a dedicated 1800 watt solar array to my delta pro and don't want to disturb the setup lol
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 месяцев назад
I don't think it will cause any damage to test that out, having solar and AC power connected at the same time. You'd want to watch the power draw from the Delta Pro screen and see if the draw goes down once solar is connected. If I remember correctly it won't run directly off solar and needs to have a separate battery attached for that to function.
@jaysonstebbins2539
@jaysonstebbins2539 9 месяцев назад
@Jasonoid makes sense . Thanks jason!
@JimMcPartland
@JimMcPartland Год назад
Great video! So this will only work with ecoflow?? DC wise
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
It runs just fine off AC power (which will work with any power station or inverter setup) but running it off DC input, it only works on Ecoflow power stations and batteries with the xt150 cable.
@savagedan100
@savagedan100 11 месяцев назад
But how well does it heat
@mas921
@mas921 Год назад
since the delta 2 max has 2 xt150's; is it possible to connect the wave 2 battery to the delta 2 max, and then connect the wave 2 ac to the 2nd port? in this manner, it run for 18 hours potentially as per your testing of course, it would ve been much better if the wave 2 ac itself had 2*xt150 ports, one for the battery below it and one for a delta solar gen.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Yes, all expansion batteries are able to connect with each other and add run times.
@luisgonzalezjr.7465
@luisgonzalezjr.7465 Год назад
To be quite honest, I would prefer buying a portable window unit a/c at one-third the cost. This ecoflow unit does not sound like a game changer. It also appears that it does not significantly reduce ambient temperature like a portable window unit on wheels would. I know a portable window unit may be bulkier and heavier, but I'm sure it would make it cooler inside. Well worth the inconvenience while going easy on the wallet.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
It's definitely built more for a portable setup and I wasn't really using it that way in the video. This works just like a 5000btu window AC unit but it's also a heat pump. That's where the added cost comes from. I haven't ever seen a window heat pump before. Maybe a different brand will come out with something like that soon? I'm looking forward to testing this as a heater this winter as well.
@coryo617
@coryo617 5 месяцев назад
Will this work with ecoflow delta 1 ?
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
I have D2M attached to W2 via xt150 efficient dc current. D2M PV2 solar feed is 3 x 220w panels serial array. PV1 is 2 x 220w bificial serial array. I run my W2 8am to 8pm. Couple hours at MAX. Rest tends to be Fan at level#2 or level#3. Temp set to 71 mostly. At 8pm my D2M state of charge is 60%. I power off the W2 near this time. At 8am my D2M state of charge is about 56%. Everyday I do not need to attach AC power supply to the D2M. Air Condition mode is always on via Solar Power or D2M battery. My W2 only has the 5 inch Exhaust hose connected to Outside Patio. 6 inch hose not connected. Air In is from Living room ambient air. 5 inch hose is completely Insulated. Very very Important to do this. Patio in shade been 110F to 118F degrees.
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
At 8am my D2M state of charge is about 56%. During the morning with W2 air Condition on my SOC drains to about 20%. But Solar brings SOC back up to 98-99% in the afternoon. Which often holds at this level till about 5:30pm. As the Sun goes down my SOC drops to about 60% near 8pm. Yes. For a couple hours my W2 air condition uses D2M Battery quite a bit.
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
Often my D2M display shows 500w Solar Input from just the 3x220w Serial Array when the Sun is very bright. Just one array's solar feed.
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
Jason. Thank you so very much for your EXCELLENT Video. I've learned so much.
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
Interesting Results receint. As Hurricane Hilary to approach Central California tomorrow on Sunday. My D2M dIsplay shows PV1 Solar 401w. at 2 x 220w bificial panels serial array. PV2 Solar 502w at 3 x 220w panels serial array. THUS 900w inputs my D2M to feed my Ecoflow Wave2 in AirConditioner mode
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Thanks for sharing your deep knowledge and experience about the Wave 2, much appreciated! Thank you for also answering other viewers questions!
@ralph4e
@ralph4e Год назад
Jason where did you find the solar/cigarette lighter connector?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
The Wave 2 comes with a 12v charging cable, a solar charging cable, and also an AC power cable.
@Francoisdp82
@Francoisdp82 9 месяцев назад
But you only tested cooling and no heating?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 месяцев назад
This video was made in the middle of the summer. I will do an update video in the winter. The heat pump feature doesn't work well under 40F.
@ElladanKenet
@ElladanKenet Год назад
Good video. Glad I watched it. For my own purposes, I don't think I will need the Wave 2 right now, and your video helped me make that decision. But I am glad this exists!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
That's exactly why I did the video. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
@ThomasDoerrArchitect
@ThomasDoerrArchitect Год назад
Based on your analysis, I like it but would not buy it since it is dependent on AC or Ecoflow's proprietary batteries.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Valid point, I'd definitely recommend finding an option with a dual hose since I feel it makes a big difference in performance.
@jasonligon5937
@jasonligon5937 Год назад
Appreciate the watt hour usage figures for each mode as I plan to get the Ecoflow 2 w/the Delta Max 2 to cool me while I am over the road in an enclosed van overnight.👍
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Insulate the space and it should work well for you.
@cic-jakevanddalgeemyers.2739
@cic-jakevanddalgeemyers.2739 9 месяцев назад
Kool
@zoti
@zoti 8 месяцев назад
The truck test is all wrong. You have to circulate the air inside the cab. You were taking hot outside air, cooling it and push it inside.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@mobius012
@mobius012 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand all the reviews of this thing in a house... For a 3rd world country I guess... But it's advertised as a portable ac... As in tent, rv, vehicle and per the ads, an open air environment (which we all know is stupid) IMO the problem with all the ecoflow products is lack of real world testing. They give it to youtubers that aren't testing properly, to hide its massive flaws
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 6 месяцев назад
Great point. I don't think I am trying to hide it's massive flaws though. I just didn't have the appropriate time to test in a real situation. You can blame that on deadlines of when the product is launched.
@screamingeagle9553
@screamingeagle9553 3 месяца назад
This might work better as a heater but the ac sucks! This is worthless unless you run the ac unit in 60 degree weather! Don’t waste your money! I should have went with a mini split! My sleeper bunk is only 8x9x8. It’s better to run a mini split off of batteries powered by an inverter! Goggle why the unit is blowing hot air and you will find out why! It’s not made for day time, only run at night! I also googled how to return it. I will cost you hundreds to return! I paid for this piece of crap so I don’t have to lie to people to buy! Hope this honest review helps someone to save money! Oh don’t try to contact support you will be waiting for a long time.
@danielkillebrew4557
@danielkillebrew4557 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much. Just saved me some serious dough
@screamingeagle9553
@screamingeagle9553 2 месяца назад
@@danielkillebrew4557 you’re welcome! I’m glad I helped you out! Even with more testing the battery only last 2 hours normal and it’s cold standing in front of the unit only. I guess it’s only to cool a small tent or sleeping bag. I’m going to go back to a rooftop unit with a soft start since I have to run my generator anyways. I kept my boxes and I’m just going to sell it and hope I can get something out of it!
@supermarioxs1
@supermarioxs1 2 месяца назад
Which unit are you talking about?
@screamingeagle9553
@screamingeagle9553 2 месяца назад
@@supermarioxs1 wave 2
@warrior9086
@warrior9086 Год назад
When You said You want everybody to understand how this thing works I thought You are going to take a screwdriver and open this thing up... BUT YOU DID NOT!!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Zach from JerryRigEverything already did that, link in the video description.
@georgepierce720
@georgepierce720 3 месяца назад
My goodness folks. The testing shows that you need to spend a bunch of money for something that doesn’t work.
@marvinsauer8493
@marvinsauer8493 Год назад
Very informative video, thank you! One change I would make with your install. Instead of putting the intake and exhaust that close together, keep your vent tubes straight. IE, place the exhaust high enough in the window opening to straighten out the tube. Hot exhaust air will flow much better if you don’t change direction with that big drop section, AND natural flow is for heat to rise, don’t try to change that. The other change would be to actually wrap BOTH intake and exhaust tubes with insulation. Both ducts are carrying air warmer than indoor air. Flexible insulated duct or just wrap in batts with a protective cover will make a very decent difference. When the duct in completely “invisible” to you thermal camera (IE surface is room temp) you have the correct amount of insulation.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
The exhaust air comes out with quite a bit of speed so I don't think the drop affects it too much but I do agree wrapping both in insulation will be beneficial, especially in the winter when I am bringing in frigid air from outside! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated!
@marvinsauer8493
@marvinsauer8493 Год назад
@@Jasonoid part of the reason to separate the condenser inlet and outlet is to prevent crossover air. The manufacture built it with wide separation for that purpose. The exhaust really should be as far away from the condenser intake as reasonably possible. About 40% of the power used by the USA is just to move air. It isn’t cheap or energy efficient. To keep the consumption down the fans are engineered to ”just barely” move proper amount of air. So any restriction isn’t desirable. Those 12v fans do not have the ability to generate much static. I promise you that “kink” in the exhaust is reducing capacity. Change the tubes as I described and then check your tube temps with your thermal, you will see a change. That is reason your truck install was lacking. Once again reducing airflow through the evaporator caused the evaporator to ice, thus reducing air flow and cooling over time, as you observed. Also the unit MUST cool recirculating air, never single pass outside air. Physics forces the removal of the latent heat, BEFORE it can remove sensible heat. With single pass air it doesn’t get a chance to remove latent heat. Recirculating air will allow it to slowly remove latent heat (one time) and then the unit is just removing sensible heat.
@ArtJourneyUK
@ArtJourneyUK Год назад
​@@marvinsauer8493Thank you for a great explanation, I was wondering why there was two inlets for air and your explanation answers that.
@rideshiftdude9198
@rideshiftdude9198 5 месяцев назад
Do you have to have the powerpac if you get the slide under battery.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад
You can use any of Ecoflow power station or batteries with the required connection.
@totenfreight2362
@totenfreight2362 Год назад
Thank you for the review. Actual battery run times is what I was after
@davidputt4638
@davidputt4638 Год назад
Makes sense that it wasn't able to work quite as well in the truck. It's the same as turning off recirculating air in a car's AC when it's hot. It has to start from scratch instead of recirculating pre-cooled air and making it more cool.
@Mike_219
@Mike_219 Год назад
Awesome video Jason. Really like the explanation of how the unit works as it wasn't clear to me before. The Wave 2 looks like a pretty feasible unit depending on living space.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@mariokleidosty9175
@mariokleidosty9175 Год назад
Thanks for the testing Jason, I just wonder why everybody calls this a heatpump while ignoring the fact that the temperature range in which it will work in heating mode is VERY limited. The Wave 2 will not operate in heating mode when the ambient temperature is below 5°C/41°F. This is something i consider a serious limitation for unit also sold for heating. Technically it's clear that they didn't want to worry about the evaporator freezing and having to include a defrost function but nonetheless it's something worth being mentioned!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
Since it was super hot I didn't have the ability to test the heat pump side of things. I've never dealt with a heat pump before so we'll see how the experience goes. I will be sure to show how it goes as winter arrives.
@mariokleidosty9175
@mariokleidosty9175 Год назад
@@Jasonoid this was not complaint to you just a general remark for anybody considering buying such a device and then wondering why it won't work in heating mode when it's most required. I'm actually working in the HVAC industry so I'd be happy to help if you want some information or recommendations. Keep up the good work with your videos.
@Terrathrax
@Terrathrax Год назад
Wow, thank you for this info! Wish I had known before watching video. That is a severe restriction, wow again.
@mrracerx8302
@mrracerx8302 Год назад
Believe this is a normal limitation of heat pumps in general. Thanks for the vid J
@mariokleidosty9175
@mariokleidosty9175 Год назад
@@mrracerx8302 This definitely depends on where you're coming from. Heatpumps mounted on the roof of RVs often have the same limitations but modern residential heatpumps usually work down to -20°C/-4°F or lower.
@TechNep
@TechNep 3 месяца назад
Can you use the wave 2 battery and delta 2 in combination?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 3 месяца назад
You can only use one battery at a time.
@RedBatteryHead
@RedBatteryHead Год назад
Great explanation. Those hoses are pretty huge to work with.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
They are large so they don't stop the airflow. They are similar to any other portable AC.
@deswr1
@deswr1 9 месяцев назад
Cooling your vehicle with the machine outside in the heat plus the cool air has to pass through the warm tube before it gets to the car window plus the narrow gap outlet into the car, these 3 factors that's why it wasn't cooling down the cab properly
@MrCharmz81
@MrCharmz81 5 месяцев назад
It's really not that efficient compared to a 5,000btu window unit, I would know. I run mine off solar, just looked at your chart on average watts per mode. I believe it's not worth it for a small home.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 Год назад
I did some one-hour testing with one of these. Off the top of my head (and in the height of Japanese summer, I'm on the top floor with a flat roof too, brutal) my installed mini-split used abot 0.75kwh, cooled the room in seconds and made the humidity much more comfortable in minutes. The Wave 2 plugged into AC used about 0.37kwh, and had basically zero effect on the room if you weren't sitting right in front of it. Nice ¥177,000 paperweight. I also had two t-shirts tightly wrapped around the exhaust pipe. The sides of the unit itself get pretty hot, and also the thing the exhause hose clips into doesn't seal well, so a lot of hot air was escaping from the sides. For reference, the room is a "6-mat" space with about 2m high ceilings, also a 4.5mat loft space and a further 6 mat area below this, but that's broken up with internal doors. I moved the ecoflow up into the attic space, and put the pipes out of the window up there. I got a second set of pipes and now have the cold air blowing along a long run and coming out, angled slightly downwards, into the main room. That works a lot better (though we've also had a slightly colder spell around a typhoon).
@larrywong7834
@larrywong7834 Год назад
Use your .75khw mini split to cool the larger room. Making the room ambient air hit desired temp for like an hour. This also removes heat contained in the walls, ceiling, and flooring of the room. Everything now is temperature cold neutralized. Now turn off that .75kwh mini split. Then. Turn on the Wave 2 set at fan#2 or fan#3 at 60F to 71F. Power draw should be under 400w range. Use Solar panels to drive this needed 400w. You could pretty much run just off Solar for free now. Your PRE colded neutralized room temp likely can be maintained for hours. If needed switch W2 to MAX. Still running W2 free from Solar.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 Год назад
@@larrywong7834 That's basically what I do now, only I don't have enough good solar up yet so I just plug it in, still using "half"(ish) the power!
@scadaiot
@scadaiot 5 месяцев назад
Best review I ever seen for Wave2. Very informative.
@johnnysweekends
@johnnysweekends Год назад
Wow great video Jason. Great numbers on the graph, and neutral pressure 😉
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
I tried to use layman terms to describe that haha.... Hopefully it made sense!?
@user--PM
@user--PM Год назад
i have watched several videos on this unit, thanks for your more indepth coverage. i think if i had purchased this unit i would have passed on the nmc battery and use a power station with the lfp battery instead. hope that you can make good use out of that unit, or find it a good home.
@ericschmidt3759
@ericschmidt3759 Год назад
Thank you for a great video. Does it cycle as per temperature settings? At what Temperature was the unit set at for these tests?
@richardkistner5549
@richardkistner5549 Год назад
Thank you. Going to put this in a Sherp with a Delta Pro. Should be a game changer.
@SetitesTechAdventures
@SetitesTechAdventures Год назад
I wonder if the device would be any more efficient if you had some more separation between the two hoses. I imagine as close as they are a fair bit of your outtake air is going right back in the intake. It's an interesting device. At the current price I can't personally justify it but I like the idea. I think it'd be neat if you hooked it up to a central AC return duct and turned on fan mode to see if it could do anything to the whole house when you are running it full power. I am still moving stuff over to solar and right now I have a situation where my batteries are full, I run the PTAC in my office full power and I am freezing, but the rest of my house isn't benefiting, and I need a way to push the excess cold into the house. Right now, I have a fan on an AC duct trying to push air through it backwards.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Год назад
The exhaust was on the top and it has quite of bit of velocity flowing out, I doubt the hot air was being sucked back in. When I measured the intake air temp, it was the same as the ambient outdoor temp
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 6 месяцев назад
'only 400 dollars" people have to eat with their spouse /family for 400 dollars/euro's a month... 'only'.. come on. do normal
@marauderhot
@marauderhot 4 месяца назад
On the truck test you missed the benefit of recirculating the air.
@etc-and-more
@etc-and-more 7 месяцев назад
These twin tube a/c,heaters make no sense to me. For a/c you are sucking in hot air and cooling it down rather than taking the already cooled air from the room which needs less energy to cool. Even worse for the heating where the mechanism is taking very cold air from outside and trying to warm it up rather than taking the already semi-warm air directly from the room and warming that. I wrote "even worse" because I doubt this heat pump will warm up any air if it is trying to process outside air that is under 45 degrees F. In my test of the Whynter heat pump a/c and heater combo, not having a second hose worked great in a 250 sq ft room with lots of windows that is attached to a large warehouse in the middle of the winter with temps in the 20's. This is a situation where your setup would fail, might have been nice to mention that. Also would have been nice to see your home charts go across a full 24 hours with another chart line showing outdoor temperature. Decent review, with a bunch of missing data/discussion but at least you provided the wattage.
@Almshyakhi
@Almshyakhi 6 месяцев назад
thank you for awesome review
@MikeNewham
@MikeNewham Месяц назад
Best review on Wave 2 this far.. I wonder if you could just splice the XT 150 cable and with an appropriate fuse just connect straight to a camper battery bus bars ?? Save on buying the battery.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Месяц назад
It's all proprietary and runs off 48v. You could connect a 48v volt battery into the solar charging port and it would charge quickly.
@8788bb
@8788bb 5 месяцев назад
When they say portable. You think there’s a carrying handle on top of the unit.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад
The front and back have a lip you can hold and carry it around with.
@The1980toyota
@The1980toyota 10 месяцев назад
Is it thermostatically controlled? If it is maintaining the warmth of a tiny camper and is cutting in and out. Runtimes will be much longer I would think.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it runs until it reaches the setpoint of the thermostat.
@arizonanative7409
@arizonanative7409 4 месяца назад
OK, I’m in Phoenix and live in a tiny house. Sounds like this machine would work, but our Summer days are over 110 degrees pretty regularly! Any input would be great, as power went out last Summer. I’m also 70 and my 78 year old sister lives with me. Thank you!
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 6 месяцев назад
Does the wave 2 solar input or ac input , charge the delta 2 max in addition of the 1000w pv1 and pv2 ? So technically Does the wave 2 add an additional pv3 (limited to 400w) for a total of 1400w solar input And simultaneously discharged the battery for the wave 2 load? I doubt but it would be nice. Can the wave 2 be plug on only a delta 2 max extra battery without the delta 2 max and act as a battery charger with solar /Ac input ?
@Thergood
@Thergood 6 месяцев назад
Can this be powered via DC without an EcoFlow portable battery or Wave 2 expansion battery? Can it run off a mobile 12v DC system or a 12v 30a output from another brand powerstation? I love the unit, but I already have plenty of battery capacity in other systems, I don't want to have to pay for an EcoFlow battery just to run this unit.
@Wherstead
@Wherstead 3 месяца назад
I have two Delta 2 + extra battery Delta 2 Max systems for cooking and fans. Bought the Wave 2 battery for better portability to place the cool and warm air where needed. Works great in a tiny home.
@ZoeyR86
@ZoeyR86 8 месяцев назад
i feel you miss the point. this unit was never made to cool a room in a house it's really targeted at overlanders, van life, bed campers and insulated tents, I have the wave 2 and a insulated 9ft ice fishing tent (X500 CLAM)but live in indo California, i can keep that tent at 72 f in eco mode while it's 110f outside
@land0mancapt.stupid857
@land0mancapt.stupid857 3 месяца назад
After having it since beginning of summer. I'm real glad I have the extra battery. Having that opens sooooo many possibilities.
@jcw945
@jcw945 10 месяцев назад
Cooling is one thing...but heating, it will not work below 5C/40F in fact heating performance is impaired below 10C. Very disappointing as this had great potential for van life but it will not do what it needs to do.
@mike810133
@mike810133 11 месяцев назад
thank you for this useful video, i got Delta 2, it takes 1.5 hrs for full 100% charge. when run out the Wave 2 battery, how long it takes 100% charging time?
@jaroslavskerik6303
@jaroslavskerik6303 10 месяцев назад
I assume since the inlet of the suction hose is so close to the outlet (hot) hose, there will be a "short circulation". The hot air from the outlet hose discharge (near its outlet, overpressure is created) will be automatically drawn into the inlet hose (near its inlet, underpressure is created). This will obviously worsen the efficiency of the unit, as some of the heated air will be drawn back and air warmer than the outside temperature will be processed. This problem can be easily solved by delaying the output/input Thank you for the perfect video 👋
@sleddy01
@sleddy01 6 месяцев назад
I am curious how the truck experiment would work if reversed and only the hot exhaust was outside. I don't imagine much difference though because of the lack of differential.
@latymz
@latymz Год назад
It’s clever but more than anything it’s efficient. I think I’ll just grab a back up window unit. I like it but it’s performance seems quite mediocre.
@_Sho_oK
@_Sho_oK 3 месяца назад
Pretty informative video with actual testing data and graphs
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