The peak of their popularity is what he was talking about. They're still very popular, but they aren't the go-to for nearly everyone in the engine customization scene that they used to be
I thought that. But he’s not wrong. He didn’t mean it to be bad sounding. After 71 insurance and fuel prices killed a lot of it. And mind you edelbrock intakes and such came on factory performance cars. Of which went away around when the hemi went in 1971.
OK, I had to go through my collection of old Hot Rod magazines to find the road test of this car. It's in the January 1967 issue. Since it was a pre-production car, it may or may not have been modified from its original state by GM (I have read more recently that basically this was a blueprinted car - fit and finish was much better than production), but it was shown as an SS model, and powered by a then-new 350 inch V8, rated at 295 (gross) horsepower. Hot Rod took it to the strip. Its best run was 14.85 at almost 96 mph.
In the February 1967 issue, Hot Rod added 7" slicks, headers, traction bars and a Hurst shifter and got the ET down to 14.56. In the April issue, the Camaro got an aluminum flywheel, 4.56 gears, 9" slicks, a 350 horse cam, high rise aluminum intake and different headers; ET dropped to 13.02. The coup-de-gras came in the June issue. Hot Rod swapped the 350 for a blueprinted 396 with a .565 lift cam, added 4.88 gears, close ratio four speed and bigger slicks. The Camaro went 11.85 at 119.86.
V-6 engines don’t have the longevity or brevity of the V-8s so that’s why they’re not popular. I drove a V-6 RS and it was a really good experience though. Had a good amount of torque which impressed me
Chevy swung and missed on the new Camaro. I had a 68 RS convertible with a 327 in it. Still my favorite car I've owned. It was a puke cream color when I got it but we did some work and turned it red just like this one but with a black nose stripe. Oh I miss that car!
A R... The old one is Beautiful... Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten, I think new cars when there no longer new will be forgotten, The fragile unnecessary over complex electrical systems will make sure of that...
@@onestepbeyond7240 That's what is really boring. You look at the card, and they do look nice great awesome whatever, but they all look kind of the same.
A Camaro SS was about $3000 in '67, that's about $22K now. Going backwards $7K today is like $900 in '67. Hot cars are never cheap, unless you were buying muscle cars in 1979.
Yeah I'm 42 and I still can't afford it. The most I've ever paid for a car is $1,500. And I'm still driving it today. Probably have about $5,000 total in it after owning it for 6-8 years.
@@ReallyRyan. The guy is a CEO of a fairly big brand, I doubt that he was nervous. He didn't look or sound nervous at all to me. I think he's grown up always having a lot of responsibilities placed upon him that he (understandably) took very seriously, so he's just so used to having to be "professional" that he either can't relax anymore, or it's just very hard for him to do, even when he wants to be.
Everyone saying the CEO was stiff: Yeah Don Barry obviously knows his products, knows cars, knows the history, and he LIKES the craft. Give him a break and give JLG a break. He finally got a suit-type who knew wtf he's talking about.
@@chrisc3697 true, but this guy isn’t even smiling half the time. He’s definitely a good guy, but he’s just doesn’t fit the vibe. Like the corvette guy that came in for the C8 was amazing. He was so nice. Told stories. Laughed. Answered questions without hesitation or contemplation. That corvette guy worked on the C8 and it showed.
i wish that edelbrock would make their carburetors with all stainless steel screws, float brackets and pins, jets and metering rods etc. so that the alcohol in our current garbage pump fuel won't cause galvanic corrosion of the aluminum castings and result in total carburetor failure in only a few months sitting idle. i've replaced 2 edelbrock 650's because they are ethanol intolerant and i let the truck sit for too long... a great carburetor if the gasoline is pure, the interchangeable metering rods make it really easy to tune. been rebuilding carter afb's since i was 13 years old on my mom's 1966 dodge monaco station wagon with a 383 and 727 auto.
I SOOOOO agree! I had a 67 Rally Sport with hideaway headlights and I loved the wing windows and was actually shocked when the 68s came out without them. I thought... WHAT? Jeez, I'm showing my age. lol
@@davidgrason161 Just curious, do you remember if the rear window had any electrical defrost element in it (the horizontal conductor lines)? Or was it something like an option? Or maybe there were none at all?...
@@karendixon401 True, But He Brings Edelbrock Heritage to Jay like it was a damn rental! Surely not all the old Edelbrock employees are not dead...Send one who was there!
Strange Vic's Daughters, Christa & Camee weren't in the show... Miss Vic Jr. & Bobby Meeks...When did THIS guy show up? He makes Coach Belicheck look animated...
Nice memories ! Very few Gen 1 Camaroes crossed the pond to England in the late 60s early 1970s, the Mustang, Challenger and Corvette were more commonly seen. I have a lovely 68 SS396 4 speed car, currently it runs a 468 motor.
That is a gen Gen6 Camaro. V6 has 335HP stock. 4 cylinder has 275HP stock. So either that is supercharged inline 4 cylinder, or you get 40HP out of the $7,000 supercharger.
Silicon valley boomtown RV'S parked along the road, you must be very proud to live in California . A great shame that we didn't get to listen to that supercharged V6 with only 11 years left on earth.
Jay should have driven both and given us a comparison. Sure the 67 is nostalgic but the new one is such a better car in every way. Unfortunately I don't think I could stand another minute of CEO Don Berry. Silicon Valley is about 350 miles north of LA near San Jose.
Posters here have some tough comments on Mr. Barry.Sure, modern hot rodding is big business and it grudgingly needs people who can walk the corporate walk and talk to run them. I was judging Mr. Barry pretty harshly for a few minutes until he mentioned he bought a Yarborough Cyclone. No stick in the mud executive I ever worked for bought anything more than a grey Mercedes. Guy is OK in my book.
Older people who like the looks and don't necessarily care for the all out speed. My grandpa had a ton of fast muscle cars but his favorite was a straight 6 66 Mustang convertible for cruising with my grandma. People change and their tastes change as they get older sometimes
Jay: I've watched your show forever and I absolutely love it. Thanks for all the class and effort that you put into your great show . I'm a 82 Y/O Canadian that watched Carson and then you on the tonite show. I know Johnny is watching!! Kudos.....Terry Southgate
Congratulations Jay! It may took you 50 odd years but you got to drive and see the car of your teenage dreams. Almost unbelievable that the car is still in one piece and in the condition that it was when you last saw it.
The guts of the supercharger are made by Eaton in Athens, GA. The “guts” is the rotating assembly that actually provides the boost. Edelbrock just makes the housing and front cover. The engineering is pure Eaton. I should know. I used to work for them for 15 years.
I remember reading about this 67 back in 1971. What a great example of the performance heyday of the late 60s and early 70s. Almost every intake manifold I've ever owned was an Edelbrock. Thanks for the memories!😊
Jay was incorrect. Being an SS-350, the Camaro would not have had a 327, but a 350.. as the emblems indicate. (first year for the 350 engine too) A big block option was also available.
Yeah, so many people hate carburetors now, but I love them. In a fuel injected car, it feels like you have to get a note from you Mom to hit the gas rheostat. With a carburetor and throttle cable, there is that very real analog feeling that you are the one initiating the response. Hard to beat that feeling!
moyadapne the cars went for sale in September if 1966, and this is a pre production car, which means it was sold earlier than that. Which is why they refer to it as a ‘66.
I think Jay was being more general than that. Camaro was introduced in an odd year. 1968 saw the whole Chevrolet line redesigned. The 67 camaro has some parts shared with those newer cars but most with the cars that ran from 64-67. I saw a 66 el camino that had almost the exact interior as my 67 camaro. So, he wasn't saying that a 66 camaro couldn't have headrests, he was saying that a 66 chevrolet wouldn't have. Still dont know if that is true, but the headrests are a rare option.
@@travissmith5525 well modern V6 are much more efficient and with the smaller displacement can generate better numbers than the old inefficient higher displacement blocks. World War 1, 16whatever cylinder airplane engines only produced a couple of hundred horsepower. It has nothing to do with the Fast and the Furious.
Wastegate valve eh? To improve economy... My 88 MR2 supercharged has a electromagnetic clutch that engages or disengages the supercharger for economy and that was 30+ years ago 😂
i see Jay each time reminds me of my dad. From same home town and i remember my dad telling me that my dads friend was Jay's teacher. This was back in Lawrence Mass. How Jay talks, his mannerism really reminds me of my dad . i lost him this last year at 90 but he lived a whole life. Thanks for making these videos Jay.
@@grantrichards4950 According to Edelbrock employees l knew, it originally came with a 327..Mind You, This was a LATE 1966 Pre-Production Model for testing by Hot Rod...No 350 existed in late 1966...This car had a variety of small & big-block Chevies testedin it!
chikitabowow the dream of owning a first gen Camaro isn’t out of reach. I own a handful of them. Let me know if your interested in owning one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IhJRm8xKNTM.html
I honestly worry about Jay- he doesn't listen to the people telling him about the vehicle- the C.E.O. had to tell him several times about it being a pre- production car bought by Hot Rod and then ending up in Vic's hands via the Hot Rod employee. I could understand if Jay was still doing the tonight show- but why is he not listening?
Sometimes I think he tries to make people feel comfortable on camera by letting them know.. if he can do it so can they..? Or when you get annoyed you forget to be nervous..?
@@MICHGO1 it's actually worse than that- Jay is constantly repeating himself throughout the courae of the vlog. I watched my grandfather and father go thru this type of behavior. Very sad. You would think they would edit this kind of stuff out.
I had two of them, and they were rust buckets and their stock, so called bucket seats, were awful and even strapped in, you were likely to slid off the flat sets in a corner!! They had good engines and transmissions but in about five years, the quarter panels were falling off for starters! They were great when they were new and would last quite a while if you kept them in garage and didn't drive them! They were built light and cheap, but looked really cool! Most Dodges of the time were blowing their doors off, and the Dodges were much better built cars! I hate to admit it, being that I used to be Chevy man, but the Camro's were really overrated for what they were hyped up to be!
Great first year production car, one of the first to utilize wind tunnel testing, --1967! The weight of the car (Standard Catalog Of American Cars) is 2920 lbs with a V8 engine, the 1967 Camaro is the lightest ever made even with a strong removable front sub frame. Drive trains' allow for easy interchangeability, features that include air being forced through the rocker panels to keep them dry via the cowl, canisters in the rear wheel wells that spray deicing agents on the tires... . Cool stuff
That 67 is just gorgeous. I remember back in the late 80's the popular combo for small block chevy was using a Edelbrock intake with a Holley carb. The setup I had on m y Camaro worked great. Good to hear how well Edelbrock is doing. 650 plus employees and making everything in the U.S. I have to respect that.
In England the V8 is quite the relative rarity, most cars here are straight 4's or 6's so the sound of ANY V8 is pretty special. THIS V8 takes it up to a whole different level!
Sorry, but this like one long Edelbrock commercial. Jay usually spends most of his time talking about the car he's driving, like handling, acceleration, etc. Not so much in this case.
Beautiful car. The stance, ride height and wheel width are so critical to the look of the car. This one looks right. Couldn’t help but notice all the people living in campers on the street......crazy.
The current license plate on the 1967 is interesting. The old picture of the car showed the plate with WAS on it. In California when the ownership was transferred, the same plate stayed with the car so I wonder why the car now has an XJE plate on it.
I love this 67 SS Camaro. I have magazines going back to the 70's with it. It is a fairly well optioned Camaro too. It has Electric Windows, Shoulder Seat Belts, Factory Headrest Bucket Seats and Deluxe Interior. I really wished they would have gotten their info correct about it. The pictures they show in the beginning was from a 68 Camaro and not the 67 SS Camaro they were talking about. This 67 Hot Rod Camaro was side swiped back in the late 70's by a garbage truck. Totaled the rear quarter panel, driver side door and front fender. Jim McFarland had to get that fixed.
Had this exact model in college. Bought it used. Loved it but it cost my poor parents a bundle in repairs...brakes, transmission, clutch you name it. It was very cool at the time and the hit at my fraternity house, but a nightmare in upkeep and gas. I loved it.
15:23 This scene is emblematic of what will happen in the next 10-20 years. The old guys who love cars will die and the next generation will be left with what? An automatic - V6 Camaro. A. Because that's all we can afford. B. Because new cars have no soul.
I'm partial to the old Camaro probably because I used to race a a 67 RS 327 4 barrel 4-speed in SS/J back in the 70's. 11.8 sec 1/4 mile which was about .25 off the record, locally competitive but not nationally. Cars were simple and inexpensive then, but still fairly fast, plentiful, and a lot of fun. You could buy a muscle car for $2500 put another $3000 in it and you were ready to race, at least in super stock.
'67 Camaro screamed for the unavailable in Camaros L79 350 HP 327" engine option and 4 speed... but later in model year got the 295 HP 350", instead...
