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EDgun R5 .257 project - part 1 

Gregor Kamenšek
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@easternblocairguns2728
@easternblocairguns2728 5 лет назад
Great video! Amazing talent you have with pcps
@Hemnmahmmod
@Hemnmahmmod 3 года назад
Very grest and informative video, haven't seen such video before, you are genius
@hsnmzpak6730
@hsnmzpak6730 5 лет назад
Brilliant work 👍
@gioanbuzzo3472
@gioanbuzzo3472 5 лет назад
Hi GREGOR, I look forward to your matador's tests💪🏻
@500yardsplus
@500yardsplus 5 лет назад
Great video as usual. Your knowledge is amazing and keeps me trying to do better at my projects... thank you!
@W1k1n6Hr
@W1k1n6Hr 4 года назад
Odličan video svaka čast
@johnschniederjan1683
@johnschniederjan1683 5 лет назад
Very good keep us updated
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 3 года назад
Hello again Gregor. Can you tell me what material you used for the pressure assist valve? I'm thinking of using black Delrin for my first attempt in making a pressure assist valve system. I need to make this because on my .257 DIY project, I can hardly cock the spring as it needs to be so powerful otherwise it will not open the valve at 180bar. My valve has a diameter of 12mm and almost at total valve-lock. Even with a massively strong spring, the best maximum speed I can achieve is 270M/sec with a 40 grain slug. Only half the power of your R5 here. I'm wanting to achieve as much power as your project above. Oh yes, just another thing, I noticed your small relief hole in the valve is in the center on the spring side and off center on the shut-off side. How are you making this hole and how big is the hole? Much appreciated.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 3 года назад
I made it out of PEEK plastic. This is my go-to material for all valves. The part where the o-ring groove is is the most critical... If possible, place the oring on the outher (cylinder) part... The size of the hole depends on the amout of volume you have in the valve cylinder, the desired duration of valve opening and pressure. Start with small hole (lets say 0,7 mm) and experiment by making it larger. Remember, the larger the hole, less time will the valve be opened and vice versa. If at all possible, drill the hole at an angle starting form center of the valve from the side were the o-ring is and towards the side of the valve on the steam side. Try not to penetrate the hole in plastic where the steam is as the pressure might push out the steam... I drill this by hand. It requires some skill since the drill bit is only 0,7 mm :)
@peetje28021970
@peetje28021970 5 лет назад
You’re very smart, all the best.
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 4 года назад
Gregor, how large are you transfer ports and the barrel port? Also, how large is the hole in the valve port just behind the valve? How thick is the valve pin? All this info will tell me the area in mm2 of the air flow. Many thanks
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
All the airflow ports have surface area equivalent to 7 mm diameter hole and that is more than the caliber (6,5mm).
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 4 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 That is interesting. I was going to use a 7mm port myself and ovalizing the barrel port so the bullet would not jam should i use a 7mm port at the barrel point. Tell me, is your barrel 6.5mm or 6.35mm?
@h2oacua936
@h2oacua936 5 лет назад
As always fantastic video Gregor .... But I think the best thing is to buy a new Edgun special bullets, that having to modify so many things .....
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
You are definitely right that this mod is quite complex. But for me, it is a challenge, to get more power than most .357 airguns in such a small caliber and still regulated with quite good shot count... BTW: what do you mean about EDgun special bullets? I have not heard of those...
@h2oacua936
@h2oacua936 5 лет назад
​@@gregorkamensek3923 ( Edgun special bullets) I think this I explained wrong. I wanted to say that Edgun put on sale in the future, this same weapon but with a barrel to be able to shoot bullets and already tested ( I mean any bullet design that works, as an example....your bullet design or that of Huben or the Nielsen etc )
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
@@h2oacua936 I understand. But the main reason why I make the mods is that I want high power with low calibers. This is way more efficient at long ranges mainly because of better BC. Sure you get bigger energies with bigger calibers but that is not the same and you cannot get high energies with small calibers without mods. If my interest would be to hunt at relatively close range, my mods would make no sense. But what I want is to shoot at 200 + meters and still have good results even in wind...
@h2oacua936
@h2oacua936 5 лет назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 Of course, I encourage you to continue with this project, which will follow very carefully. I'm sure everything you get sooner or later will come to us. But, please do not forget this and other deadly umildes that are already at the limit of the possibilities of this weapon. We have little ammunition to choose from in this Cal .30 and we always hope that you will get something out of the routine without having to make big changes :) P.D. Very interesting to have double oring for the Explosions that we have already had even shooting at 285 ms
@kellyschmidt6910
@kellyschmidt6910 5 лет назад
Excellent video. What type of lathe do you use to do your machining for these air gun mod parts you are making? Assume the .257 TJ barrel is 1 in 14 twist with no choke - correct?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
I have a cheep Chinese lathe (about 400 eur) and I make tool bits my self. You are correct about the TJ barrel specs.
@airsharpshooting2858
@airsharpshooting2858 4 года назад
Hi gregor. nice video review an nice project. Where the buy anti bounce system ? Is this system recomending for some matador r5 or r5m ?? exactly .22 or .25 cal.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
This is custom designed and made anti bounce system by me. You do not need it if you are using non-modified gun. I have made a custom pressure assist valve and for me it is very important to have it and the bounce is way more pronounced with pressure assisted valve.
@airsharpshooting2858
@airsharpshooting2858 4 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 Thanks a lot
@chrish2685
@chrish2685 5 лет назад
Gregor,are you going to use Wingmans power plenum to shoot the slugs?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
No, I am using my own. Just googled "Wingmans power plenum" and form what I see, it is similar design, but I don't use Huma regulator but Altaros instead and also I have pressure assisted valve...
@sergepetrovskiy643
@sergepetrovskiy643 4 года назад
What if wrap a barrel in couple layers of fiberglass that should give it some stability
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
Yes, that would be one option and I actually intend to do something like this but unfortunately, there is not much space in the gun so I can only go up to 16 mm of external diameter...
@mehlcarelse4319
@mehlcarelse4319 5 лет назад
Thanks Gregor. I just found out today that the Samsung Galaxy Prime Plus is not OTG compatible. Therefore I have to get another phone. Sorry about the wild goose chase. But you should look at this kit. Costs about $15-00. Very cheap, in fact much cheaper than a Yukon MPR. Easycap DVR. Cheers.
@urspolar7pompidu347
@urspolar7pompidu347 5 лет назад
In which video I can see the anti bounce system? Why the slug doesn't need to enter all the way in the barrel?
@humayunali5663
@humayunali5663 3 года назад
Because slug are not hollow from backside like pellets So little push is enough to put them in right place
@giorgibedoshvili848
@giorgibedoshvili848 5 лет назад
hello gregor. What stage is this project ? You're still working on a project ? This project is very interesting. good luck.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
Hi. Thanks. It is still on hold (like most of my projects) but I will continue with it soon, hopefully by the end of the year.
@giorgibedoshvili848
@giorgibedoshvili848 4 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 thanks. good luck. this is very interesting project.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
@@giorgibedoshvili848 thanks
@MRT_H
@MRT_H 5 лет назад
And it's awesome, because it isn't 6 feet long like a Texan. 👍
@petergoodman7805
@petergoodman7805 5 лет назад
Could you not put a full length steel shroud over the barrel to stop it flexing. Or a barrel band with o ring. Great work
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. But it would have to be a very snug fit or have set screws to really tighten it down...
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 3 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 In this case you'd need to smear some slow acting epoxy between the barrel and the sleeve.
@dannybax1982
@dannybax1982 5 лет назад
This should be a very interresting gun when its done !! Wouldnt it be possible to set tension on the barrel using a heavy duty spring and a nut to adjust tension?? The spring would allow shrinking/expanding without changing actual tension to much.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
Yes, I was thinking of doing something like that, but is is a very experimental method and also, if the power/ velocity changes only a bit, the harmonics might re-appear.
@dannybax1982
@dannybax1982 5 лет назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 With a big enough spring it shouldnt react to much with different powerlevels , but should eliminate change in tension due to temperature. Biggest challenge will be finding the right spring 😂 Where did you get the .257 barrel ? Been thinking about turning my AF Condor into a slug gun and know they have done that before.
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
@@dannybax1982 The barrel is form TJ.
@andrespupilli1026
@andrespupilli1026 5 лет назад
Hola Gregor, soy de Argentina, ¿sabes dónde puedes obtener un cañón de ese calibre aquí?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
Hi. This is custom barrel and it is made by TJ for USA.
@intheshadowsilie
@intheshadowsilie 5 лет назад
Essentially a 257 is a 25 cal with a longer tray a slug magazine? An more power to push the slug down range
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
.257 is exactly what the name is. It is slightly bigger dimensions than .25 airgun and it is originally a firearm caliber. R5 is a single shot so there is no magazine. It has more than 2.5 x the power of the stock .25 R5
@davidxcell8105
@davidxcell8105 5 лет назад
How can I buy this barrel?
@MasonStormSunny
@MasonStormSunny 4 года назад
What happened to this project? Any finalization?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
Unfortunately no. I am having problems with barrel and accuracy but I have not given up. There will most likely be a follow up video, I just cannot predict when...
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 4 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 Do you think a faster twist rate might help? Say, 1 in 10
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
@@redgum1340 Hello. My port is oval at the barrel of course. The only thing I was paying attention to is that all the "air path" had the surface area of at least a 7 mm hole (around 38 mm2), but the shape of the port is not important... I don't think faster twist is needed for the 70-grain slugs 1/14" should be enough. For longer 85 grain slugs, a faster twist might be a good idea. The barrel is .257, not 6,35.
@miljan1983mc
@miljan1983mc 5 лет назад
great mod on the r5. where i can buy a antibouncer? i am thinking to do some mods on my lelya 2.0
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
Sorry, but I am not selling my mods. Also, if you intend to make it for a different model, this one would not fit anyway.
@miljan1983mc
@miljan1983mc 5 лет назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 thanks mate. Is there any example for the antibouncer for edgun guns? I am interesting for make one for me
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
@@miljan1983mc I talk about my anti bounce in many videos and I also have a video that shows in slow motion how it works. BTW: the anti bounce system is only needed if you modify your gun (like I did with the pressure assist valve). There is no point of making one if you have a gun as it comes out the factory as it is engineered not to have any bounce that would wast air.
@miljan1983mc
@miljan1983mc 5 лет назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 thanks man on your answers. Like your videos!
@flawlesstzr2556
@flawlesstzr2556 4 года назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 happy new year bud and great vids. I am interested in the lathenyou use can you provide feedback how well it's worked for you thus far and how long you've had yours? Also would like to know where you purchased from as I am currently on the hunt for a lathe. Link would be great. Appreciate the help.
@SHOOTER3258
@SHOOTER3258 4 года назад
Gregor ti si genij
@bornagian1744
@bornagian1744 5 лет назад
What size regulator is it alex
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
If you mean the size of the plenum; I don't know exactly. I have gone as far as possible in the cylinder (the rear part of the cylinder has a slightly bigger diameter so you can only push the regulator as far as the hole is bigger).
@mehlcarelse4319
@mehlcarelse4319 5 лет назад
Gregor I need your help please. I left a message for this guy on a video titled "Recorder Test Between HMDVR, PV110 and Easycap." I would really appreciate your help as an Electronic Engineer. Thanking you in anticipation. Mehl Carelse
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
What exactly do you need help with?
@خالدالقحطاني-ص3ق9م
You’re from Russia??
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
No, I am from Slovenia.
@خالدالقحطاني-ص3ق9م
Gregor Kamenšek in slovenia l can get air gun without license?even .30?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
No, everything above 20 j or 200 m/s has to be registered. All my airguns are registered. It is not as complicated as for firearms though.
@خالدالقحطاني-ص3ق9م
Gregor Kamenšek what about the license of firearms in your country is difficult?
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 4 года назад
You have to have a reason for owning it. Usually you can get the licence if you are in a shooting club or if you are a hunter. You have to pass an exam (same as for airguns). Then you have to pass medical and psychic test. You also need to have empty criminal record. You need to get a purchase licence before you buy a firearm and also ammunition (I think). There are some limitations regarding firearms you can get, full auto is forbidden and also all suppressors are forbidden... With airguns, you can purchase them anytime form anywhere (no power limitation), but you are obligated to register them within 8 days after purchase. All you need is a purchase recipient, be over 18 years old and have empty criminal record... Easy... LOL
@budfarkus
@budfarkus 5 лет назад
Nice skills ! Can you build me .257 if I send you my Edgun
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
Hi. Sorry, right now, I am only doing this for my self...
@budfarkus
@budfarkus 5 лет назад
@@gregorkamensek3923 kinda figured that,but had to try..lol
@TheCraigy83
@TheCraigy83 5 лет назад
if you want to be a millionaire redesign a hw100 to run off the hw97ks spring powerplant.. the finest minds on the planet CANT make a simple single stroke pneumatic/spring action that also cycles a mag ? Yup that really is the case . I understand this would only be within sub 30ftlb energy range and not really up to your slug firing +80ftlb needs BUT the airgun world IS crying out for such a rifle but greedy ass manufacturers know theres waaay more cash in pcps..they can sell you a pump and a compressor , hose attachments bigger bottles..its like 1 dude going to buy 5 springers at once if they can sell you a pcp ! Under 50yards my spring hw97k is capable of matching a £+1500 fx impact Youve got the contacts within the manufacturing world...Make a multi shot hw97k ! Please ! 👈 see i asked nicely so you have to nag kuban/edgun/ANYONE to make it now 🤪👍
@TheCraigy83
@TheCraigy83 5 лет назад
I know that gamo pile of junk exists btw..i want precision+high quality!
@gregorkamensek3923
@gregorkamensek3923 5 лет назад
I understand but your idea should go to the manufacturer of the already existing accurate spring airgun... That is the key to your idea, the indexing mechanism already exists and it is used. Also, that would definitely not make me a millionaire and I doubt that it would be as revolutionary and popular as you expect it to be. I am sure that sooner or later, high end springer manufacturers will start to have this in their offer as well.
@TheCraigy83
@TheCraigy83 5 лет назад
sub £600 springer+gun bag. +£1000 pcp rifle+£200 pump+gun bag. they have ZERO intrest in halfing their years profit! Would you ???...that gamo had people looking until it was evident it sucks and was never going to be accurate with break barrel..
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