These boys were going to check out Cat, Dana, Perkins. Dont get mad at them for going to China when thats where the North American brands do their manufacturing. These guys want to make EV trucks. They aren't going to hand make diesel motors, differentials or drivetrains. That isnt feasible. They have to go where suppliers are. I hope you boys had fun.
There's a sub culture of Chinese online gaming where all the hate comes from. They ruin every game they touch. Cheating, farming bots, griefing teammates, etc. They're hated by normal Chinese too. Problem is a lot of normal Chinese people intentionally play on non Asian game servers to avoid that culture, but they indirectly affect the players on those servers by not speaking the local language and having high internet latency.
It is refreshing to watch you guys getting to experience the REAL China. Growing up in the US upper-Midwest, you betcha, I also got to live and work in China for 5 year…that was twenty years ago. I found the Chinese people extremely friendly, humorous, fun loving, hardworking, and very curious about us from North America. The food is great, and yes the public toilets don’t have toilet paper! (BYO). I found that average Chinese people admire the West and don’t understand why the West “hates” on China. They want the same things for themselves as we want for ourselves. It’s too bad our jealous politicians feel they need to create China as a “foil” for their own political power. How can we be competitive without rattling sabers.
Not anymore. According to a 2023 Pew survey, 78% of Chinese people have a negative opinion of the United States, and Canada is even worse because the Canadian government kidnapped Meng Wanzhou, the daughter of Huawei's founder, which shocked the whole of China.
I love how simple that Foton truck is. As someone that hates the "computer on wheels" approach to modern vehicles why can't any other manufacturers figure this out? It's sad that they'll probably never be able to be imported into Canada. Passenger vehicle companies need to realize EVs aren't just for tech bros anymore, some people want a simple vehicle that just happens to have an electric motor.
I've been to Shanghai in 2018 (for work) and had the opportunity to do a lot of the things you did. It is a crazy but somehow beautiful city. Back then not a lot of vehicules were electric, but they had these scary scooters that had been manually transformed into electric scooters. They were absolutely silent and more than one time were close to running me over. 🤣
For the NPCs complaining lack of truck content. It's only been a month. If you can't connect the two dots they went on vacation and toured/researched. Working nonstop for 2 years to get a single break. Calm down.
In Shanghai, it's nearly impossible to get new plates for a non electric car regardless of the price. Taxis I think are also not allowed to be ICE anymore. Lotus, Nio and BYD all have flagship stores a few blocks from your location.
You forgot to mention the fact that diesel engines are 40% efficient , gasoline is at 25%. A power plant is more than 90% efficient. That's a big advantage.
Lol 90% Ironically, I think a modern DC linked diesel generator/powertrain (3 phase inverter uses active rectification, bucking/boosting) has the potential to be more efficient than a stationary diesel generator. The reason being stationary generators have a fixed engine RPM per the required AC frequency and the generator poles... no variability in the engine speed, and that engine speed may not be the engine's most efficient. With a DC linked, electronically controlled diesel, the fuel economy could be estimated real time, while the RPM of the engine is varied under any given power output (a turbodiesel could easily produce some given power figure at many different speeds, as long as that hp fits under its power-rpm curve) to optimize the efficiency. That could be a one time occurrence or it can occur all the time, to compensate for IAT, engine temp, fuel variation (different types of diesel, CNG vs no CNG, etc). But it still will not reach 90%. Combustion engines simply cannot... even a Brayton cycle sCO2 generator couldn't.
@@pierredelecto7069thats literally not it, it's funny reading both honestly. The people defending China are the best ones to read. Their tofu buildings are literally falling apart lol why would you wanna work or be somewhere near people that force people into reeducation camps also hurt others cause the talk about the government in a bad way. They chose this. There's plenty of reasons not to work with china. If you look over the fact they steal everything from people and make crappy versions literally putting small business out of business. Their quality is shit and always will be. Most uneducated comment goes to you.
A very large chunk of funding to allow this facility is state sponsored. Having the CCP directly interested getting developing companies hooked on goods that are artificially cheap so they kill devolving markets in north America and Europe isn't good. Watching these guys sign up for the dog and pony show is a little bit upsetting. Also, your social credit score has been increased by your support, you will now only have 2 party supervisors following you for your visit. Please try not to get stabbed by a xenophobe.
Having lived in Western Canada (very sparesely populated) and in Japan (Very densely populated) , I can apreciate some of your cultural experiences (I am a brit living in France).
I live in the Netherlands, famous for its good infrastructure for walking, cycling and public transport. I have seen the transition in cities from not have any bus lanes to having a lot of bus lanes and other space for public transport. It really does wonders for the drivability. The more busses I see, especially on a seperate lanes, the quieter the roads are for me to drive on. I love it.
One thing wrong, EVs are powered mainly by renewables, mainly solar, with some wind. In China, oil & coal powered generating plants are mainly for factories and industry.
All lot of the comments seem to be negative but i think some people should get out of the basement. I enjoyed seeing something ill probably never see and knowing that in the fowllow up videos will be about the products
There's lots of things to not like China for. The coolest things in China are what the tour brochures and 'AAAAAAAA' tourists spots don't care or don't want to show you. Those thungd6are mostly "touched up" scenic views. The gold in China lies in the rural places because that's where you meet a lot of genuine people and see a lot of cool things that don't exist in first tier cities. Inner Mongolia is a good example. Not a single notable landmark for miles and it's wholly possible to get lost and die if you don't keep your wits about you. And some Chinese subcultures are extremely unique and cool but aren't at the forefront of tourism. See happy hardcore and its related happenings. The flashy tech and sightseeing in Chinese cities is cool on video but what's hard to get on video in a vacation is simply the people you meet. I think the awe is misplaced.
I’m pretty sure the plane went the wrong way around the globe. The only nonstop flights that go from the US to China go over the Pacific, the other way around the globe than what the opening animation showed
My word, you guys go on a business trip and everyone screams 'Chinese sellouts.' Heaven forbid they take a closer look at where the majority of their crap at home is made in... China. Your 'American' car has a ton of chinese made parts, your 'American' brand appliances have chinese sourced parts. Your computer, phone, headphones, router, etc. are all made in China, or have China made components. Christ, these guys tried to source locally in North America, and couldn't. Even then, the few North American companies that rhey do work with have most of the manufacturing in China. So don't blame Edison for their suppliers' decisions. You make do with what you can get.
I think it's important to be up to date on EV/climate facts if you're going to run an EV manufacturing company. 1. Whether an EV "makes sense" doesn't depend on whether you live in a city or not, but on what your vehicle needs are. I live in the western wasteland of the USA and it still would make sense here because there's charging in every direction I would like to go, and the range on most vehicles is sufficient for nearly every person. They only don't make sense for fringe cases. 2. Using EVs by coal fired electric is cleaner than burning fuel in your car because they're more efficient than cars. That being said, coal is still not clean even in the country, and contributes to what we all breathe eventually. 3. It doesn't "require" pollution to produce electricity, we just haven't invested in cleaner energy.
When I hear clean energy, that is Propoganda it is ALL about government control over Your travel, Government could care less about the environment, we are making a leash for ourselves and calling it freedom😡
Chase check out Sandy Monroes review of Amprius Battery co freemont CA across the street from Tesla. 500w/kilo another tesla idea, your future north american supplier, Colorado plant online 2025. This this screams karma, again!
that thing is not existed just another fake news like others but we do have sth like credit score as western from alibaba a private company just like equifax
We went to see Winnie the poo when we were there last year, and went on a Winnie the poo ride at an amusement park. We have noticed that much of the rumours you hear about China, are nothing more than rumours. Winnie the poo is definitely not banned. -Theron
I wanted to go check it out but the rest of the team told me no. So instead I joined the official North Korean friendship society and now I’m in a group chat with Kim Jong Un. - Chace
@@EdisonMotors IP can be processes too ya know lol. If I didn’t give a shit about a Canadian company doing good things I’d keep my mouth shut - but I see good people who care and want to build something for the right reason I’m gonna speak my mind. If I’m wrong I’m wrong but I genuinely want to see Edison succeed. As a marketer as a supply chain guy as a dad who wants a clean future for his kids - so ya I’ll point it out lol. I live here too so why wouldn’t I want to make sure you guys do well.
@@mikemuzzell5167I watch real americans doing real life stuff, positive content and Chinese african. I am from Denmark. On youtube its only about race gender wars only negative feed. Makes you negative person after 10 minutes. 😢
Please dont propagate anti EV FUD. An EV charged from coal is still cleaner than diesel. Long distance EV works just fine, North American and Canadian charging infrastructure just sucks
Yes and no, Long range EVs can work in areas where cities/towns are near enough for electrical infrastructure. However, ICE is still king in some areas that I serve some of my IT clients in. When you're about 300km from the nearest city up in Northern Quebec, most folks are either running generators, solar, or wind for power. They aren't gonna let you plug in to charge your car.
Depends - most petrol cars have internet connection nowadays too. Could certainly build an EV without, just convert an old car, simple motor, battery pack and axle/drivetrain…
@@S3pra I was thinking things more in the line of power outages, brown outs etc. but that kind of stuff could shut down petro access as well when you think about it. In a SHTF situation, i think it would be easier to get petrol though.
@@dptp9lf possibly - almost every petrol station’s pumps also run on power though. Could be argued both ways thinking about it, definitely depends on the situation and location
CCP bot comment but I'll bite. It's because American cities weren't built 40 years ago and have been around for much, much longer. The US also doesn't have entire city blocks getting decimated by gas explosions or people fishing cooking oil from septic tanks because they're too poor to buy it.
@@pootispiker2866yeah, same in lots of part of the world tbh, Here in indonesia, Jakarta is 496 years old now And my god It shows 😂 The urban planning is from that period, lots of cities in Indonesia is fucking centuries old, our oldest city is 1300yo Palembang Ppl don't talk about how Italy has trash urban planning, but when u think about it, they do bc their cities are as old as fkn rome when horse drawn carriages were around They just supplemented it with good public transport If the US invested as much into public transport as newyork does, it'll look a heck lot better than Italy that's for sure 😂
@@kramrle And no counter argument other than finger pointing. Wumao spotted. How's that 50 cents holding up? Have you seen the absurd amount of Chinese people on the street basically everywhere in China? You can't just make it illegal and pretend it doesn't exist. You can't even act like rich people exist now!
@@RENO_K Honestly we don't even need new rail to get back up on our feet. If amtrak was run like a government service rather than a business, there could be more regular service over popular lines. Shoot, even just fix the contention with freight traffic and AMTRAK will be massively improved. Remember greyhound?
You sound so damn dumb. If you follow along they TRIED to use all north American parts. Nobody makes them in North America. And the very few manufacturers who make parts here refuse to sell them. So, they went to where EVERYONE gets their parts.
Ah yes. Being open minded and willing to give a culture credit for what they do right is definitely propaganda. Just like hating China because the government told you to is definitely not propaganda.
@@gormauslander can't know what they did right because this factory got the state sponsored touch. It could be a massive money pit, but that's the government's problem and they are willing to foot the bill to get more videos like this to get more western startups hooked on cheap intermediate manufacturing because of their population crisis
We were there visiting our suppliers. Brands you all know and love. Caterpillar, Perkins, Cummins and Dana axles…… Which are all made in China. -Theron
They (like everyone) get their parts from China when they can’t find a north American supplier. Until our governments stop making huge tax incentives to build overseas n ship here then nothing will change. Oh and what have YOU done that’s so patriotic?
@@EdisonMotors The difference between those companies and common manufacturers is that Cummins' Chinese suppliers are regulated by Cummins while Ming Chin's Super Motors are generally substandard even if they work. Here's some free marketing consultation for ya. Going "But look at those guys they're getting it right!" is NOT winning any public opinion. Electric truck or not, that's how you make a dog's dinner out of your marketing. Back it up with something other than comparing yourself to someone else. That's what the Chinese do, funnily enough. "The Alps of China." "The LA of China." You gotta assert yourself as unique, not just the same as everyone else.
@@pootispiker2866 we are not comparing ourselves to those companies, we are visiting those companies because they are our suppliers, and that’s where they made.
@@EdisonMotors I am sure you're doing industry standard factory visits and are making regular batch checks off received materials just as Perkins does, but you could have made the same argument without bringing up those companies. It looks like deflection, which does not score well in the eyes of skeptics.
@@JD-yx7be Paid for by who? The cost of internet in Canada is far more than in the U.S. as well. What's the cost of fuel in Canada today btw. What's the end cost of goods being delivered because of that single cost? Most Canadians should be walking around with 'Kick Me' signs on their backs with 'sponsored by Trudeau government' IMO.
According to CRTC, 99.4% of people have LTE broadband (Cell phone hotspots or internet via cellular connections) 99.4% of 35 million people 34790000... so 210,000 people don't have a cell phone. out of all of Canada. that's not bad bro......... Maybe you should try facts.
@@pierredelecto7069we actually went to the caterpillar engine factory. And the Cummins factory that makes our 2.8 for the pickup trucks They literally are all made I China. What do people expect us to do, I can’t tell these huge companies to just relocate back to the USA. We have to go to them
@@EdisonMotorsdon't pay them no mind. The us military buys electronics from 1500 Chinese companies. They use 4000 Chinese chips on their navy ships. But they look crazy at you
Just watch out looking for pandas at the zoo. They are known for doing dodgies and substituting painted dogs for the real deal. Dont get hit by the 'pedestrian death' that is EV vehicles. Did you get tailed by a minder over there?
I appreciate that y'all want a look at the factories producing those good electric axles, but too much time in CCP land risks enforcing the Chinada stereotype.
how does this channel publish everything *besides* videos about electric trucks? you could watch every meandering video on this channel and still have no idea what progress has been made in regard to the actual truck…
We were there visiting our suppliers. Brands you all know and love. Caterpillar, Perkins, Cummins and Dana axles…… Which are all made in China. -Theron
In “every meandering video” are the updates on the truck you so desperately desire. If TikTok ruined your attention span and all you want is all the information compressed into 60 second doses, just say that
@@dposcuroor find a manufacture that doesn’t get their axles made in China anyways. We went to visit Dana’s E-axle factory in China in one of the upcoming videos
Sorry I want to be on your side so much But This feels wrong Just because it's cheaper doesn't mean you should do it I think that this will go horribly wrong 🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕😡😡😡😡😡🙈😢😢😢 Just saying
The reason they went to source parts from China is not that it was cheaper. They could not get it in North America. And Chinese electric truck manufacturers opened their factories to them to look how they work. DAF refused.
@@bullithedjames937 Me personally? I don't because I don't know how. I was commenting along with you that this person doesn't seem to understand that Edison did what they had to do. And I see a lot of unnecessary ethnocentric bigotry implying that Chinese work is inferior
Imagine being so ethnocentric that merely mentioning a country you hate because the government told you to makes you stop supporting a team you used to like.
@@gormauslander It isn't just the government telling them to hate China, its all the extreme right propaganda, like Fox News, One America News, AM talk radio, the Blaze and others (and equivalents in Canada), telling them to hate China.
