EFAP - The Expanded Universe - Wolf and MauLer VS. Just Write 

Didn't he contradict some of the things he said in this video almost immediately afterwards?

This was essentially the proto EFAP. Thanks for uploading it, we miss Wolf.

How many times will you reupload this lol Anyway, Continue critique of the force awakens Critique game of thrones s8e6 Continue batwoman live review Critique rogue one

Awesome, missed this. Would love to see an efap on Ralph the movie makers joker take. Sorry I’m mixing praise with this request but I’d really love to hear your opinion on his video. Thanks. Love you guys ❤️❤️

@@gaeloconnor707 lemme guess. He didn't like it. Lol

the web has spoken

Did it actually get used like that

@@mysterymastermind175 sort of. A couple people said that they are going to use it as an example of bad movie writing.

You haven't Evolved yet bro. Probably the most hilariously pretentious thing I have ever heard and I like Terrence Mallick.

ZachSeineVideos Ah Yes, Just as the Spiders Foretold.

Lmfao i read that in his video essay voice

He chuckles to drown out his internal monologue of "OH FUG OH FUG OH FUG."

I just commented on this before I read further down lol.

Yeah he can’t think of any way to justify his drivel

@@MrCantStopTheRobot Cognitive Dissonance kicking in. Too bad he sticked with what he believed.

Co-sign

I do too, I just wrote this and left it as a comment but I'm gonna reply to you because I really hope he sees it as I hope he'll read your thread: Fuck Wolf needs to let go of the tumultuous emotional roller coaster he's on and get a different perspective, nothing is that bad and nothing is that good, it's like he's stuck in the adolescent phase of life where everything seems like end of the world and you become addicted to the turmoil in your own life, the truth is your not special or important and because of that things aren't that bad. I'm not saying anything negative about Wolf specifically, I love the guy and want him to do better and I want him to come back, what I wrote above is true of 99.9% of people. I wish he would just take a step back and let go this idea that all or nothing approaches are the only way to solve insurmountable problems which are objectively just meh level issues. A lot of suicidal people fall into this mentality as well, they think their world is over and whatever crisis they're currently experiencing is the worst thing ever when usually, objectively it's really not a big deal especially compared to what people suffering in the world endure, I'm talking child sex slaves, slaves in the third world, living in extreme poverty, extreme sickness, starvation or every part of living in a state like North Korea or the USSR. We live in the first world, have opportunity, have a better standard of living than kings of the past did, I'm not saying his problems or your problems or my problems don't matter, they certainly do, my point is that we have the time and circumstances available to us in order to work on them. Edit: My point is making giant life changing proclamations just feeds into the delusion that your issues actually warrant severe changes, it's almost a selfish desire to want a problem so totally inescapable that it requires these steps because that validates how hard your life has been. I'm not saying your life hasn't been hard, that doesn't mean it isn't fixable, especially because you aren't tethered to your past bad experiences, you don't have to carry them along with you, just let go.

Wolf will be back.

Silo 101 I don’t think so. The first time he left was very spontaneous, this time it seemed far more deliberate. I wish you were right to some extent, but I don’t think you are.

He's still in contact with Mauler and Rags, they'll keep a toxic eye out for his well being.

This isn't even MY FINAL FORM!

@@woodwyrm I HAVE REJECTED MY OBJECTIVITY!

Yeah I’m glad Wolf brought that up. I liked those Hobbit videos too and then he liked TLJ I got confused as fuck.

"A person evolves when they defeat their weaker self. Wouldn't you agree, Wolf" -Just Wriavolo

More like "Just Right?"

anonamister - likewise, sadly missed

noone's ever really gone but seriously, he's better off away from YT

@@YourPrivateNightmare when is he dead or what? i never got the full story of where he is now

@@talmiz101 he left the internet

@@mattbyrne1329 its a shame, because he was a nice and fun guy.

The Insatiable Mr. Dong that was funny

The Insatiable Mr. Dong I don’t understand the joke but I believe you deserve a thumbs up anyway

@@SpaghettiGod34 Don't worry, I didn't get it either.

@@SpaghettiGod34 Sunday and Monday are named for the Sun and Moon, respectively (astronomical bodies), Saturday is named for Saturn, as is the planet (Roman god), and Tuesday through Friday are named for Tyr, Odin/Wotan, Thor and Frigg (Norse gods).

Exhumed Legume thank you very much it’s appreciated

Yeah, it became clear *very* quickly how outgunned JW was, and they weren't even being dicks, just intellectually rigorous.

@@BrennanCh06 I didn't get that. I thought all 3 handled it respectfully and well.

@@gmonkman He couldn't even begin the debate because he's too "evolved" as a critic. The movie is good because he says so. And bad movies cannot exist unless he devolves into a lesser version of himself...he has obtained God status in which anything he deems worthy is untouchable.

​@@BrennanCh06 his subjectivism borders on willing ignorance it's infuriating

​@@gmonkmanthey were all respectful but jw kept going in circles the whole time basically sidestepping every point mauler and wolf gave and going back to "but I liked it so it's not bad"

James Moore A return to the old days

(Pokemon music) Just Write evolved into: Garbage!

And Mr. “Most people don’t know what a Y-Wing is.”

Nah ... he doesnt "interpret" anything ... he only "judges by EMOTIONS" ("if you felt good it is a good movie") which is stupid, because if you watch the movie again after having a bad day, the experience will be completely different!

Something I noticed a lot is that for almost every single point, Mauler and Wolf used examples as evidence to back those points up. Just write rarely did. It seemed to be the difference between a dreamer throwing concepts around and a person trying to drag someone back into reality. Just write came up with a few interesting points, but it seems his views on interpretation does not just stop at viewing movies. It is also something he takes on during discussions It is also usually a sign of speaking out of their ass

@@Muck006 i love how you just came up with the perfect double speak fr interpret

Thing is, themes are actually very important & good. They're the core meaning. To explain my perspective, all art is some form of human communication with additional characterization. If you try to communicate but you have no meaning to the words you are saying it's gibberish. If you try to communicate & just speak in sounds with no attempt to actually format your sentences, that's also gibberish. You can't write without themes, but you also can't write with only themes. You have to have themes, things you intend to say, then you have to effectively communicate them in an artful, characterized way.

Sorry, I ain't evolved as a critic yet.

man, watch the end of his worthless skywalker's take - he sold out themes for skillshare, literally.

I don't believe in evolution, so nough.

This is an efap mini at best

@@edmonddantes563 this is a cut down version though.

Do you know how long the original video was? Because if not then this comment is pretty stupid

Hugø Gøjibiter irønfist bro we’re joking relax

Sean Tracey sure, but even jokes require some semblance of logic you know. It’s not a big deal I know, but it bothered me

Theennnnn he walks it back when he tried to tell DXFan not to come on in a dm like a sneaky little weasel.

Fran Madaraki That’s why I don’t like his character. He’s a weasel, but at least he had the balls to come along once.

Or MacIntosh.

@@raymond-reviews "Had" being the key word. So sayeth Bigideas.

not even being a dick, but Jenny doesn't really qualify as a critic. She's really just a variety RU-vidr who gives her 2 cents about media she comes across and feels passionate enough about. She doesn't really come off that really cares enough about her own takes to really debate them. She just throws out her feelings and then moves on, which, I feel, is something that can at least be respected. Quinton and Willems on the other hand are spineless worms.

But have you evolved as a wiever?

@@turtleanton6539 "The Long Side is a path to many abilities, some may consider to be... unnatural" -Creambo Sheevins

Uncle Baneman hes mic still sounds like that. the audio we hear on efap is from OBS not discord

That is subjective.

Reader response is the theory of what media is successful.

Did you watch his video? I only saw thumbnail with "bad writing" and howled with laughter. I'm almost curious enough to watch his video to see how he suddenly contradicts himself and his "reader response theory".

We should have JustWrite vs JustWrite

@@jerm70 something like Jordan Peterson vs Peter Jordanson

Does Just Write not understand that his TROS video is going to reduce the amount of enjoyment in the world? That really, really sucks man. What a Jeb-pilled nazi maniac

They get painted that way because he's against them on certain things being good so they gotta try and paint him as this super evil creature that only wants to shut down conversation with people

That's how socialism do. Seriously though, nothing exists in a vacuum, especially human behavior. Doing this with politics only builds the habit of doing it for other things. Much like being lazy with your chores leads you to eventually being lazy with work. Humans are ruled by habit, building good habits and purging bad habits is key to being happy and living a productive life. Thinking that you can build a habit and not have it intrude upon every action you take is naive. This is why ideas like socialism will never work. It harbors the thought that we should embrace bad things and see them as good when reality simply doesn't work that way. Laziness will never be good. Pedophilia will never be good. Rape will never be good. Instead it creates monsters of out of men who are taught that embracing their evils is the same as accepting them, this is untrue.

Didn’t Just Write later warm DX (the guy who said words only have one definition) on Twitter not to go on EFAP?

@@LeaXoftheUnderworld2 He publicly told DX not to then tried in DMs after deleting the tweet cause he remembered what backlash is

It's the natural evolution of "Bobby is a meanie poopoohead for not liking my doll's dresses". Now Robert is a nazi womanhater for disliking a movie.

And his claim to substance also reeks of condescension.

@Oof Oof Ralph's Joker review can't even be parodied it was so bad haha. I actually thought he was doing a bit and then the video ended lol

Oof Oof I still can’t believe that video is not sarcasm. It’s just so dog shit. There’s no way it’s legitimate with how awful it is.

He’s a Lit major, being a pretentious douche is in his nature

Enforcer I watched jlongbones response and my thought was this abysmally immature child makes hitop films look like Aragorn

I'l do you one better *why* is wolf!?

*who* is wolf?

What is wolf?

Fin3 line Wolf also was a youtuber. He made Videos about games, movies etc. just like Mauler. So his channel was practically like Maulers.

SirKuchen I know who wolf is I was just adding to the joke

NO he just said what he said - the plot gaps did not strike him as particularly problematic. I agree. No one thinks Finn and Rose going to Canto is a "plot hole" - its the whole atmosphere that they don't like. I agree Canto has issues - but not the ones Mauler brings up. Its not a plot problem - just a tonal shift that throws most people. Justwrite loves Rose. I like her just fine. So we're back to subjectivity - some people enjoy Canto most dont. I'm in the middle but if your issues is just Canto existing then "plot holes" will emerge - not real ones but ones you conjure to rationalize not liking x or y.

Just Write was born from English literature. He was a fetus growing inside a copy of moby dick

Deigo Quixotwry He's basically the anakin of literature is what you're saying

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Probably left over Sprinkles from a Donut he ate while reading.

I think it’s fair to let someone know where you’re coming from. Knowing he has that background rather than a film background clarifies how he arrived at his position. It’s a terrible position though, because essentially he doesn’t care about quality...

As an English Lit major myself it's painful to hear that line dropped by every one of these critics. Themes and interpretation of subjective qualities are one matter; objective analysis is quite another. The two should always be acknowledged separately. People trot this line out as if it's an excuse to not acknowledge objective qualities.

He’s so adamant about not even finding common ground. It’s so lame.

People seem to not understand the concept of not having to refute everything. You can be wrong about things. It doesn't ruin the debate, no one's going to kick you out. And based on the fact no one's being aggresive here, they're actually trying to help.

he says 'this is so funny' 'thats so funny' whenever he gets got or stumped, like halfway through he says it like 4-5 times already

Good point, would be nice to have that part for context to the '_____ response theory' meme

Yep. "All art is subjective! Except for the art you're advocating for, which would be boring." By his own metric - which is to say, no metric at all - Just Write is unable to make any argument against anything, because his own philosophy of 'it's all just completely subjective' means that anybody else's perspective would have to be just as valid as his, according to him.

Ah, Michelangelo is boring! Now menstrual blood on a bed sheet, now that’s what I call art!

To be fair, his name is just _Just_ Write, not Just Write _Well._

"Ironic" - Creamy Sheev Palpatine, 19BBY

His videos on the hobbit films are great. Something about TLJ made critics go bonkers.

cheap shot, but lol.

The frustrating part is that he does understand good writing vs poor writing. He agrees with Mauler that several parts of TLJ don't make sense or are poorly written, but Just Write chooses to dismiss these issues as irrelevant.

It's the only time I've been in a theater and would have walked out if I wasn't there with my friends, and I've seen a lot of stinkers too. And yeah, the movie made me angry and frustrated, it was just a constant downhill apart from a few nice looking (CGI) scenes. edit: and yeah, I recognized the "themes" in the movie right away, but they came at expense of plot and characters, and were shoddily done in general from what I recall

@@defeqel6537 Same here. I felt something was off as soon as Po and Hux started conversing. Then there was a your mom joke and I thought meh maybe it's just one bad joke. Then after Luke comically chucked his father's lightsaber I knew in my heart of hearts something was horribly wrong and it only got worse from there.

I remember I was laughing my ass off. From a fan point of view it was all for the wrong reason. Probably crying or being angry would have been a better reaction, but I only could laugh at it. First I was only amused how RJ flipped the bird at JJ, then how he was methodically destroying everything. I remember laughing out loud at the Holdo-maneuver - the whole cinema went dead silence: but me and an other guy some 2-3 rows away were laughing, I don't know his reason but I knew that it broke every serious space space battle. The fun part is that I understood what RJ was trying to say, and even I'm not opposing it til today, however he did a terrible job of it. His obsession with the divisive storytelling, the shitting on the established rules of the universe, the shitting on OT characters, the de facto poor storytelling and bad execution broke SW.

I think many of us have seen the movie only once and memorized almost everything bad as if we just saw it yesterday even though it was over 2 years ago. We wanted it to be good but every scene disappointed us, whereas casual fans (people that probably don't remember much about the others) saw it, and thought "Oh yeah, it had emotion and theme instead of just a Millenium Falcon blowing up tie fighters - Good movie".

I remember that I left the theater smiling, but knowing deep down that something was seriously wrong. On my second viewing, all the visuals had gotten old, and all of a sudden I found myself hating a Star Wars film. Something I never thought would happen.

Hes still right... for now at least, ai can at the moment only regurgitate garbage in terms of narrative or even drawings, it pales in comparison to anything remotely good in the human sphere. The issue is that mass entertainment has been so declined for so long that garbage is preferable.

@@janehrahan5116 For the moment yeah, but I can't imagine how things will go the next few years. These AI are effectively in their infancy, and many of them are already seeing commercial use, and that's before we even realize that if we have access to ours, whomever has connections is going to have something FAR better.

I have never made a more audible noise from reading a comment before.

@@janehrahan5116 Let's be fair. Some of the AI drawing regurgitation has been pretty impressive, but I agree on all other points. Though I do see it getting to a pretty ominous point in the (relatively) near future with the rate we're at.

his channel doesn't even have a single video all these years on the topic of AI art xD that is kinda funny tbf i know tons of artist that said the same just before it blew up and some of them have gone into silence on the topic, but most of them actually the opposite and like to intrigue the idea and the future of it, but the topic of the robot in this conversation is the meaning of factual objectivity so it is not really the same

I think this guy straight up belives objectivity doesn't exist. People like that scare me, because there are so many of them around nowadays. I meen he even said it: at 50:45 Mauler: "What do you think is the "robots" perspective?" JR: "I don't agree the robot exists." Me in that moment: 🤨😐😑😶😔.....

It's postmodernist deconstructivism. Reality is just what I make it and I'm intentionally going to go against the tide of what I perceive as the presiding authority/reality. It is horrifying. We will be seeing more of this in the coming decade. Muh feelings over actual observable scientifically verifiable reality

@@Forkinpikey Agreed. But you don't even have to go as far as "observable scientifically verifiable reality", people like JR fail at even the most basic thing called LOGIC. I am legit scared about the future with people like that around. Some time back people survived because of fisical strength (physical and mental) and or being inteligent (or both), but nowadays we have people that don't have neither strength nor inteligence. And the biggest issiue with that is that we have plenty of this kind of people in leading positions that REQUIRE those skills. I don't consider myself religious, but at this point I can only say: Only God knows were we are gonna end up.

Yeah if the counter argument does not line up with reality of what happened the argument is invalid. The movie exists in front of us and is finite it’s not constantly changing bad writing is bad writing

Heisenbrrg lmao

Twice the Massives, double the tism!!

Well mauler gave it 4/10 for objectivity so get fucked.

mel on Damn bro.

And like Over the Garden Wall.

so much of my intelligence, especially social and emotional intelligence (I don’t have much but I’m pretty sure there’s some) came from growing up obsessively watching tv and movies in the early 2000’s Theres still good stuff out there now and there was definitely garbage back then too, but I feel awful for kids growing up now with so much brainrot being shoved at them

I still fail to see how that even is a good argument? It might be if one avocates for the initial experience and (emotional) reaction, but is that all there is to it? Is what we initially feel the only truth that we need to protect and nurture? I can only imagine someone insecure saying that to justify ones own feelings without having to feel bad when it gets questioned and criticised. If that is their get-out-of-anything card then they might just dont care enough. And that would be fine if they aknowledge that, but they dont. They instead double down in barely thought out ways. I dont even think they are able to comprehend how skilled someone can be in anything. And may it be in following plot, characters motivations and spotting inconsistencies in a story/movie...

@@SETHthegodofchaos Not only that, but the same thing can be said in reverse. What if you don't notice something on the first viewing that would raise the quality of the film when analysing it a second time around? Almost all the films or shows I consider good became far better upon multiple viewings that help you notice foreshadowing, subtleties, etc. Should we just limit what good we perceive in a film to the first viewing as this argument proposes we do with the bad? The fools who actually use the argument of "you wouldn't notice it on the first viewing/if looking for faults" can't have their "logic" without it going both ways.

@@choueriito2548 Oh definitly, I completely agree! MauLer actually opened my eyes to consistent character writing. Before I mostly focused on story consistency in the past. It made me rewatch many movies and series with new insights that made them even more enjoyable to me. I wonder what makes people like Just Write come to their conclusions. Did they think in the past they had to spot all the details and connections on the first viewing perfectly and because they always failed they basically gave up? Were they perfectionist who had enough of being perfectionists and this was their way out? Or is it really just all about "deminishing enjoyment"? I guess not, because if that would be the main reason, then Wolf's explanation that one can enjoy good movies more once you know what to look out for would diminish that reason a lot. Or maybe they just got sick of putting in a lot of effort when they could just make content about anything with less effort.

@@SETHthegodofchaos I think Just Write's case is a lot more simple than all that. He liked TLJ and wasn't able to admit it was bad. On the flipside, something like the Hobbit trilogy is something he went into not liking. He simply can't separate logic from emotion.

Not seeing a massive problem in the script the first time you view a film just implies YOU are slow. I still find it funny when people use such a defense.

Nah

@@maverickay5807 True as that would imply he even made one cogent point which he clearly didn't.

@Lewa105 just right

You say that and don't criticize Mauler - fail!

​@@darkthorpocomicknight7891What are they supposed to critique?

What are you a fucking park ranger now?

@@darthdragonborn1552 "Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?!" * Mauler, while trying to understand the "Holdo Maneuver" *

And then he gushed over Rose Tico and everything fell back into place

Yeah. After he said it i immediately left the video

@Jim Saint Ruth _Perfectly balanced; as all things should be._

Jim Saint Ruth people like JW like Tico just because she’s an asian woman in star wars, irrespective of the quality of the character. That’s just as bad as disliking her solely for the same reason

@@jimsaintruth4248 So he says stuff you don't like and he's wrong ... wow how Naz--- sorry Maulerish of you.

But what about the extended universe?

Eaxl The Not So Great Debate

@@metalheadretrogamer5330 Pretty sure in one of the recent EFAPs that MauLer said IHE was now fine with it being made public.

Greg Rothschilds maybe after they show the more recent conversation between Mauler and IHE on EFAP.

I've been waiting so long for that to be released.

Hobbit was released in 2012-2014, little bit before all this culture war/SJW stuff kicked off... i dunno... probably just... coincidence....

@CleanserOfNoobs Quite simple really; He liked TLJ, he hated The Hobbit, and he’s so pompous, he can’t admit he liked something bad, as that would be to admit he has bad taste, so he has to rationalise it in any way that he can.

He bought a new book after those.

He liked the Last Jedi but didn't want to admit any of it's flaws so he outright ignored them. It's fine to like a movie, but don't tell me that obvious flaws shouldn't bother me or that a movie with glaring problems is "good".

The brand, man. Must protect the brand. Also, probably overdosed on all the subversion.

Feynman said something similar about science He said he doesn't understand people who think understanding how a flower works is at odds with appreciating its beauty, from an artistic view as now being able to appreciate the details, the design, has deepened your aporeciation and sense of wonder, it only adds, never takes away

Agree with u totally, Would also be a disservice to Literature and other art forms. Even a painting can be objectively bad, once you see how a script/novel/painting get crafted over hundreds of hours, with tedious work to make sure its sound, I can't go back and say: "yeah my fingerpainting from when I was 5 is on par with the Mona LIsa because I feel like it is".

Yeah. We love you and miss you, buddy.

Надеюсь, ты знаешь, кто ты.

I enjoy The Room. It's fun and hilarious to watch because it's so bad it's bad. It is not a good movie though and there are MANY problems in it's writing. For example the flower shop scene. Her favorite customer but she doesn't know who he is? What?

@@dragoneye6229 Maybe she inevitably learns to hate everyone she gets to know, so she deliberately keeps herself from getting to know her favorite customer. It's a deep movie, tbqh.

Yup JW created the virus - makes sense

@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 god you're delusional

@@TheFinaleMark and you missed a joke...

Damn right

You could even say it's the LONGEST gift

of course it never ends, it is the perpetual middle which is the best part.

EFAP is a waste of time. His old critiques are 100% better

@@1who4me nah

Too bad "subjective criticism" is not criticism at all ... but rather "a feeling".

He also says um a lot

well the shit writing stuck around

meaww.com/the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-hate-thank-twitterati-defends-star-wars-the-rise-fo-skywalker LOL Aged well indeed.

TRoS: Allow me to introduce myself.

Ever had an opossum die in your AC duct? That shit sticks around.

Is mauler supposed to be alfred?

Oh really? Where?

Which university?

@@joshuabell7761 Not one set university - there's a filmmaker named Kamran Pasha who teaches screenwriting seminars at universities all over the country - he uses Star Wars as an example of how to write a screenplay... with the exception of TLJ, which he uses as an example of how NOT to.

@@goji3755 Oh wow. I'd love to see Just Write continue to defend it after hearing that.

Folks have also taken to talking about art as a whole when critics like Mauler tend to focus specifically on movies and tv.

it's all thanks to our supreme god admiral tonald🙏🙏

You didnt need to use any Expanded Universe to write a GOOD and CONSISTENT trilogy! The simplest way would be ... - starting with "the band being back together" and going on with their daily lives - then Han Solo and Chewie get blown up in the Millenium Falcon but manage to send a cryptic warning "it's the [STATIC]" - Luke and Leia put together a team to investigate ... and the new generation takes over to solve the mystery ... maybe coming back for advice from their mentors ... All you need to do is to fill in the blanks as to what mystery Han discovered.

@@Muck006 I wouldn't kill any of the major three, MAYBE Luke in the last movie (and that's a BIG MAYBE), but other wise people should leave the OG characters alone. Have the story be about the new characters. The old characters should be mentors, they don't need to eclipse the story they should add to it and help the new characters grow into their own roles that the OGs never had.

@@Muck006 I didn't say you couldn't, I merely stated there more quality stories than what Disney is producing, but I concur with your sentiments.

@@TheAutistWhisperer Movie wise, sure. But when it comes to books, the quantity to quality ratio is far higher with current New Canon. Then again, outside of the original Thrawn books even the EU seemed terrible at handling post-RotJ content just like Disney. I kind of wonder if that era is somehow cursed, because as soon as they skipped to about 100 years later with Legacy it got really good. Too bad Disney then decided to murder it in its sleep, and adapt the worst parts of the EU for their trilogy while adding their own terrible shit on top.

I disagree that the earth is round and the sun is hot It’s not objective

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I know you got that from ItsAnimeGirl, but I'm curious if you learned it from her video or Just A Robot's coverage of her.

What a reference. Jeez

Omg classic video. A thermo nuclear clickbait hot take. I feel slightly bad itsanimegirl but that video is so hilariously bad that I was unforgivable. it's like a gedap on dragon ball. I found about the video from blackscape(?). Xandiel's first video has the best though.

No not the curse

Dale yeah and the podcasting community since Alex Shaw keeps complaining about the fact that people complain that tlj is one of the worst movies ever

Mauler brings brain cells back from the dead, so it balances out.

Eventually there will be EFAP boxed set DVDs on Amazon ... there are already seasons and memes are "extras"!

Soon we'll have people who don't know who Wolf is

@@mccor002 That will be a sad day

Once you go long, anything else just fells wrong.

The truly enlightened Person calls the MacMuffins nowadays. 😜😊

Truly Long Man has evolved as a critic and as such we can't go back to those non evolved ones

@@johannesseyfried7933 I was quoting his vid so didn't want people thinking Just Write was enlightened about McMuffins 2 years ago lol

@@lordofthepizzapie9319 Size matters ... but quality and logic do too.

Pretentious is how these people live.

That's the annoying aspect of Literature class and literary critique in particular. It automatically makes an appeal to authority by presupposing that classical lit books must be better. So even a normal person taking it doesn't really know why those classical lit books withstood the passage of time. Creative Writing FTW as it actually teaches what good stories need to have like pacing and characterization. The ability to falsify a story by saying it's terrible is how people learn real critiquing.

I'm super glad I found Mauler and was introduced to the concepts of objectivity and subjectivity when I did. Because of how the education system teaches the "everything is subjective" bullshit, I likely would have been swept away by that if I hadn't been aware of other ideas as presented by MauLer and co. about a year before my school shoved this garbage down my throat for 2 years straight. It's honestly made me want to become an English teacher, so that I can correct this garble and stop the system from creating minds like Just Write's.

@@das_ollon Fighting the good fight.

They don't believe in objectivity, and will settle for groupthink. You can see it in his arguments and even his behavior.

His strongest point is that the total overall enjoyment might decrease if we readily employ critical thinking when discussing products. That sounds intuitive until the standard for creations would inevitably increases and more better products are created

@@raphaelambrosiuscostco that's basically "as long as jamal is more happy that he stole my bike, than I am sad that he took it, that's ok"...

the thought of someone like Tolkien writing something and saying god I hope no one reads this more than once is hilarious to me. keep at it!

Weisin 96 it’s like the Snyder cut, we know it exists but will never get to see it

@Weisin 96 Well, the original is deleted and gone forever. :( (Unless Wolf has it saved on his computer or something but I doubt it) We’ll have to bide our time until MauLer releases the one he did with Rags on EFAP, lol.

the forbidden episode

If anything, just release IHEs reaction to finding out the conversation was being recorded.

Mauler did say in one of the recent EFAPs he would be uploading that one soon. I mean "soon" coming from him could be two or three years, but we do know it'll come out eventually.

To be honest, I think it is about time someone starts an "EFAP loremaster" channel.

It's too bad there are people who interpret the Socratic method as being hostile to the person. Not really this guy but I've run into plenty of people who do.

​@@darwinxavier3516 it has great utility in therapy. But even the idea that you should try to filter or question your thoughts for cognitive distortion is hostile is a massive barrier to personal growth.

Well he's *Right*

Fact: His subjective opinion has no baring on the events of a movie. They happen.

Yeah a fucking kid would bored with that fucking movie, what is JW on about? “kids will enjoy it...”

I just hate the arguement that objective things don't exist. They do, and fannying about like JW does is painful to hear.

It's comforting to think reality isn't objective, because it means it will not demand more of us than we feel like doing.

Thorsvald exactly. It’s why people like this focus so much on emotion and solipsistic “lived experience”. It’s a developmentally arrested way of avoiding responsibly and maturity. Which is why these people are so often mentally ill as well.

You cant have science without objectivity (because scientific results need to be reproduceable). You cant have a just system of laws without objectivity and lack of emotion (which we still have to work on, because women get lighter sentences than men for the same crime).

LOL OK I'll bite objective reality doesn't exist - this is not some profane werewolf doctrine. Its been around since Kant and no one not even Rand has a good counter. So the debate is how WE as humans make use of our concepts. But the real world is not accessible to us - never has been even people who hate Kant like Nietzsche agree his basic point is correct. We deal with mental representations and representations only. Do you have some magic solution to "know" reality and if so what is oh great one.

Chan Thorpe you really think I’m going to engage with someone who acts like you do, an obvious bad faith actor? Next time, maybe try approaching people with a bit more humility and willingness to engage meaningfully. At least then you can appear to care about learning and not tip your hand so early.

Tlj didnt even fit with tfa

Shit argument from Just Write. Even Fairly Odd Parents has rules about what the fairies can and can't do.

Which incidentally translates into their art: they give little to no attention to the actual crafts. OR they think they're beyond them. This is Rian Johnson 101: he thinks he's smarter than the set-up/pay-off mecanism that's at the core of storytelling. I call them dadaists: push the subjectivist logic far enough and you have to either 1) acknowledge that you need standards or 2) decide that nothing matters, which is where you devolve into dadaist art and nihilism. Which is not necessarily uninteresting in terms of philosophy, but it does consistently make for terrible art.