Effective Bajiquan - Baji vs Wing Chun | Baji vs Tongbei Kungfu

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We have a very impressive showcase of Bajiquan under what looks like Lei Tai or Sanda rules. The Bajiquan practitioner is a Kungfu artist named Chen Hao Zhe (陈浩哲), and he won an inter-kungfu tournament in 2019. Bajiquan 八极拳 is a style of Chinese martial arts that I definitely want to showcase more on Fight Commentary Breakdowns, so we'll have much more Bajiquan soon! Baji was apparently used by palace guards during the Qing Dynasty, so it might have a lot more pressure testing than some of the other more known styles. So Baji, like CLF (Choy Li Fut), is a top-tier style of Chinese kungfu. Also, I found a RU-vid channel that might be Chen Haozhe's, so definitely show him your support! More to come!
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Wing Chun vs Bajiquan [0:00]
Tongbeiquan vs Bajiquan [8:27]
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@FightCommentary 2 года назад

That Slip N Slide match we mentioned in the middle of the video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ldJr2Q1jrwY.html

@Autonamatonamaton 2 года назад

Great use of Baji here! Lots of traditional techniques like ducking under your opponent's hands into a shoulder bump to the chest, that back elbow to the body off the same technique, the spinning heel kick to the leg (Andy Hug was known for this move, it was nicknamed the Hug Tornado and he finished fights with it to the thigh/knee), those lead hand shovel hooks to intercept the Tongbei fighter's head movement, the lead leg trips and takedowns, all great stuff!

@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG 2 года назад

I’m glad that more and more Kung Fu guys are starting to actually train now. Xu Xiaodong was the wake-up call they needed!

@gravekeepersven82 2 года назад

Agreed

@michaelterrell5061 2 года назад

No it wasn’t. These kung fu guys and kung fu guys in general have been doing stuff like this for a couple thousand years at this point. All Xu did was give them a good reason to start showcasing their actual skills over the internet.

@hysterical5408 2 года назад

Nah, I think all Xu did was get famous by beating up old men who can't fight, so now the kung fu guys who actually train like every other martial artist have to step in for their own reputation's sake.

@michaelterrell5061 2 года назад

@@hysterical5408 Precisely. Seriously what is it with this hero worship?

@shuheihisagi6689 2 года назад

@@michaelterrell5061 The Chinese government ruined his social credit score and in China that ruins all your economic opportunties because everything is tied to your scoial credit score. Xu was taking heat for exposing fake gurus that had a lot of influence. There is no hero worship, its just deserved respect.

@DatDemo 2 года назад

This is honestly the best display of Bajiquan I've seen so far

@theultimatek.i.m.m1504 2 года назад

Shoulder strike at 2:33 was cool!

@yahyamatulessy2103 2 года назад

I'm a Jiu-jitsu guy and I really enjoy watching this Baji guy won using Baji techniques Baji knee strike 1.57 Baji shoulder charge 2.33 Baji elbow strike 5.43 etc looks like with some adjustment Baji can be very effective style

@kenken8765 2 года назад

I love that part where he chopped downward but as a set up for that should charge. Flung wing chun guy a couple feet and disrupted his rhythm.

@WaiLongSui Год назад

Word I thought I was the only one that seen that

@viktorberzinsky4781 Год назад

It already is effective.

@Groomsman 2 года назад

Did you see that Sensei Seth video where he learns wing chun from Kevin Lee. It was very different then what you see the guys in videos do. But the Bajiquan guy was awesome, there’s a video out there about how it’s common in fighting games and it’s really neat

@jon...5324 2 года назад

That was absolutely AWESOME! Please feature more of this guy.

@theultimatek.i.m.m1504 2 года назад

That spinning hook sweep was murder!!

@des6853 2 года назад

right? three in a row, well timed, and it knocks his opponent down. Then he spins again, but puts a sidekick to the body when the opponent is expecting another leg kick.

@theultimatek.i.m.m1504 2 года назад

@@des6853 Ah'm stealin' that!

@nephiilim 2 года назад

This fight is amazing!!! Clearly two different styles actually USING their styles. And at a really good level. This is my favorite fight

@jehutymortis6603 2 года назад

I see bad Sanda that's all.

@hysterical5408 2 года назад

@@jehutymortis6603 Course you do.

@aquaticlibrary 2 года назад

@@hysterical5408 that’s ultimately what it looks like though.

@hysterical5408 2 года назад

@@aquaticlibrary I can't see that at all. The stances are different, the way they move and strike is different. With the rules being Sanda rules, I guess I can understand that but from seeing what they're actually doing? No, doesn't look Sanda at all.

@fazares Год назад

@@jehutymortis6603 idem

@kevinlobos5519 2 года назад

This is definately well applied kung fu. It also looks very unorthodox so people won't complain about it resembling kickboxing, which is not a bad thing but hey, it's the internet we are talking about. The tong bei quan had some interesting stuff going on but he had like 0 striking. Seems to me that this was his first fight, he reminds me of myself in my own first fight 😆

@lionelluney3063 2 года назад

Baji is fluid from the jump but breakdancing helps. In parts of the south the gangster walk ( a southern US form of break dancing popularized in Memphis tan) is included to maintain fluidity and footwork

@benmoore6327 2 года назад

Baji training curriculum that includes the gangsta walk? Where do they do that?

@jamestan4165 2 года назад

Second fight was great fun! Nice find.

@Lymmar 2 года назад

Second match had some great Kungfu. The shoulder charge takedowns were rad, as well as the foot sweeps.

@jezzaboi2168 2 года назад

It would be really cool if there was a karate combat style promotion, but for kung fu using modified kuoshu/sanda rules. Instead of a super well produced, kinda campy karate tournament, it would be all kung fu focused, taking kickboxers from different styles. I think there's promise

@FightCommentary 2 года назад

I bet you if I search hard enough I can find something. Let me know if you find something too!

@michaelterrell5061 Год назад

@@FightCommentary Jerry really quickly. What competition in China was this from? Is it a popular one held by practitioners of different styles of kung fu there and also are there others like it in China? Because competitions like that are really popular in Taiwan and Hong Kong(and other parts of Southeast Asia) but I’m not sure about China. It would be nice to know if such organizations exist. Thanks.

@michaeldemedicis6901 2 года назад

From older records that my grandfather taught me baji was first called bazi or raking hand and was essentially the solo practice for a military form of shuai chiao. It got the nick name of the body guard stile because the last empior as well as chang kai chek and chairman Mao's body guards all used baji. So it works very well with san da matches. Love your work please keep it up!

@yamiyomizuki 2 года назад

that's mostly correct aside from categorizing Baji-Quan as a style of shuai jiao. while there are many shuai jiao elements in Baji-Quan, it's primarily a striking art. also it was used by bodyguards from way back in the qing dynasty and continues to be used by the Taiwanese presidential guards and special forces to this day.

@dickbison 2 года назад

2:32 I actually liked that little shoulder charge, it would surprise me

@minoadlawan4583 2 года назад

Bajiquan guy keeps trying to go for shoulder bashes without setting it up first. Resulting in him missing.

@giantotter319 2 года назад

Very cool and a nice mix of strikes and grapples.

@jessepriest2883 2 года назад

The other day I found a channel that looks like a potential gold mine for you. It's called ocopenmartialarts, and basically all it is is martial artists from different styles meeting up to spar and fight

@ericdavis9210 2 года назад

The only people who can fight with their hands down, have already mastered fighting with hands up to a certain degree.

@shadowfighter6445 2 года назад

This was awesome. The 2nd fight was my favorite to watch. Thank you for sharing ☺️.

@dicusrichardson6650 2 года назад

This is exactly what Chinese martial arts needs.

@rylie8989 2 года назад

Only just got around to watching this one, and aw darn I got my Ba martial arts mixed up and thought for a minute I was about to see some effectively used airbending. :P But for real it was very cool! Those spinning hook calf kicks (!?) were VERY interesting!

@jamesnave1249 2 года назад

Love your videos. I'm curious what your opinion of the top 3 most effective kung fu styles are?

@SONY95ish 2 года назад

Really cool seeing Baji up against wing chun and tongbei. I'm a Bajimen myself and I once beaten a taekwondo fighter, true story 😂.

@HiroIndo16 2 года назад

doubt it

@SONY95ish 2 года назад

@@HiroIndo16 doubt what? You weren't even there and I don't have to prove it to you 😝

@HiroIndo16 2 года назад

@@SONY95ish nice tall tale bro! :p

@SONY95ish 2 года назад

@@HiroIndo16 I miss the part where that's my problem 😏

@HiroIndo16 2 года назад

@@SONY95ish I miss the part where that's my problem 😏

@Artahe 2 года назад

The second fight was pretty fucking great! Love the Tong Bei showcase, obviously love the Baji showcase too. Wing Chun was a bit eeeh but points for trying. I love how recognizable the styles are and aren't just "kickboxing"

@bennyaruba3449 2 года назад

This is dope especially the 2nd fight

@Vtuberfan69 2 года назад

More Bajiquan please love your channel keep it up

@LightGlyphRasengan 2 года назад

Wonderful demonstrations

@canaldesugestoesa6651 2 года назад

It's already a good start, so that Kung Fu can be used as a combat method, it will take a while for it to be used as a fight, but it's already good because many will contribute to us martial styles and added a lot of blows.

@BajiquanLondon 2 года назад

Love it. Baji representing

@vascosyogaundkampfkunst8042 2 года назад

Awsome stuff

@thejudgester97 2 года назад

What you referred to as a baji/aikido/Japanese jiu jitsu-eque throw at around 6:20 looks pretty similar to what we'd call waki gatame in judo :)

@andrewvasey1070 Год назад

This is the best Kung fu I’ve ever seen

@Internalflow33 Год назад

Hey... nice video... My add for the "hands up" stance, is yes "hands up" if you want them to try kicks & stomach punches etc and the opposite "hands down" if you would like them to attack your head, neck area... This depends what your expertise is, maybe through strategy, you keep hands down, so they go for a punch to the head, then you intercept, catch it as you break their elbow... Bas Rutten talks about this strategy of getting the opponent to hit you where "you want!" Then you deal with it... as most people won't punch your head if your hands are protecting why? So having your guard wherever you want it as part of a strategy gives you and advantage.

@oldman7829 11 месяцев назад

Finally ! 👍👍

@safdarkh786 2 года назад

8:18 i wont say "by not defending themselves". Infact they use the distance and footwork for their defense. But in the punching range, even they has their guards up.

@mattscholbe7237 2 года назад

Best Kung Fu I’ve seen too

@charlesbetancourt7337 2 года назад

There's better see " Alan Lee's kungfu Wu Su part 1". And skip to 4:00 to the fighting.

@rawr2u190 7 месяцев назад

2:30 nice, there's the shoulder charge I was hoping to see. Tetsuzanko as it's called in Japanese, common in fighting games. Idk the Chinese name for it. Every time he does it he gets his head grabbed though lol. Baji guy is good wow. The tongbei hand movements are interesting.

@user-eg3pb4qj3i 7 месяцев назад

Does the Baji guy have a channel I can watch more of his stuff on?

@pangopod2969 2 года назад

11:25 how does that hammer fist work ? That one throwed by the white headgear man ? (and what's the name of that technique pls)

@mr.k3221 2 года назад

Man i love baji

@LRkun 2 года назад

It seems like he's doing a combo of jab cross or hook then shoulder charge. Before he does a take down. He could follow this up with an upper cut if he keeps getting his head grabbed because there is an opening for it. His punches are not flurrying which makes them with power. But the moment he can do a jab cross like a boxer, he'd be 100% better. Bajquan is like looking at a person who's an amateur kickboxer with judo skills. Not bad. Better than wing Chun. I suppose the mystic of ipman thru the movies really made wing Chun popular.

@fazares Год назад

no sir..baji quan isnt bad kickboxing with some judo thrown in...no...it's completely different...kung fu isnt meant for ring fighting or light sparring (both limited by rulesets)...beside neither of the guys here looks like experts of the respective arts....youre not using rimon chochou/ramming elbow from that far in a real fight/application eheh

@kuo.taichi 2 года назад

I would say overall you do a good job commentating. My one critique is that you seem to single out the CMA guys who drop their hands/sticks their neck out, while ignoring instances where the MMA guy drops their hands/sticks their neck out. Yes, some of these CMA guys clearly have never trained under pressure, but it's a bad habit no matter who is doing it, and it should be called out consistently.

@dickbison 2 года назад

@@GuitarsRockForever Yeah, when you're watching UFC or something all the fighters there are literally the best of the best on the planet. If they're doing this you can be pretty sure it's on purpose and they're baiting the opponent into doing something and playing mind games. Or it's just exhaustion from a long fight.

@kuo.taichi 2 года назад

@@GuitarsRockForever Silva "could" do it because he had an average 3in reach advantage over most of the guys he fought. That doesn't mean it's not a bad habit and it should still be called out. Besides, your point is moot because you're not seeing UFC Pro matches on this channel, but rather, Street Beefs amateur-level MMA and Kickboxing, and yet still you see MMA guys drop their hands.

@neokimchi 2 года назад

@@GuitarsRockForever he's not "affording" to do them as luxuries, there are tactical reasons you want your opponent to think your guard is down, and silva knew how to work that. but many lesser mma fighters imitate that shit without any conscious thought beyond "dude I'm so cool i don't need a guard"

@yamiyomizuki 2 года назад

@@dickbison there's a logical fallacy at play here. best doesn't mean perfect just because the best fighters in the world do something doesn't mean it isn't a mistake.

@dagaffer2269 2 года назад

@@kuo.taichi you talking nonsense, MMA fighters beat CMA 100% of the time. Whether is high level or low level competition. UFC proved from day 1 CMA is Bullshido of the worst kind.

@cahallo5964 2 года назад

I have a love-hate relationship with all these videos because the comments are literally always the same "It doesn't look like x it just looks like kickboxing" My man, IT'S PUNCHING AND KICKING OF COURSE IT LOOKS SIMILAR

@Stolas9 2 года назад

People who don't train anything don't see the difference of course. Anyone who does Boxing/Kickboxing/Thaiboxing sees the difference. Baji is unique, especially their footwork. It's not Kickboxing at all.

@malakatan3235 2 года назад

Non expert even can't differentiate move in movies, where is real where isn't

@Quantum3691 4 месяца назад

It doesn't look exactly like Bajiquan because it isn't choreographed to look perfect like in the movies.

@felipe_sousa97 Год назад

This fight is under lei tai/kuoshu rules, traditional kung fu (not modern wushu), I trained kung fu when I was younger and learned to fight under these rules, if you search for more lei tai/kuoshu matches you'll find more content about kung fu sparring, there's a channel called NexusJunisBlue with a lot of kuoshu lei tai matches

@jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад

You think that Choy Li Fut is probably the most effective chinese martial art? If we are talking about the way it's trained i would say that it could be Shuai Jiao lol. If it's about the techniques, then i would say Baguazhang, even though many internal chinese martial arts are pretty similar, Bagua is one of the most complete ones and i just love most things about it, you should check out the RU-vid channel called "Robert Jay Arnorld" i totally recomend it. Then there's Bajiquan which i did practice and really love too! It's weird how Bajiquan has many moves that are not present in other martial arts, i have never seen a "Tie Shan Kao" (also known as Tetsuzanko) in any other martial art, and it's also really hard to find someone doing the "Rimonchochu" elbow attack, Baji is very unique.

@mr.k3221 2 года назад

I can see you play virtua fighter as well

@mr.k3221 2 года назад

If u play tekken, you can see Steve do a shoulder push witch reminded me of baji

@WuYixiang 2 года назад

@@mr.k3221 Bajiquan practitioners in fighting games: Akira (Viruta Fighter) Akira (Rival Schools) Kokoro (Dead or Alive) Miyako Arima (Melty Blood) Julia Chang & Leo (Tekken) Meitenkun (King of Fighters)

@mr.k3221 2 года назад

@@WuYixiang not to mention li mei from mk deadly aliace witch looks nothing like baji

@Ballarateast 5 месяцев назад

Baji quan is one of the few kung fu styles that trains for full contact. Most other kung fu is what I call " fantasy fighting' meaning they don't train for full contact just air sparring. My style is 30 + years of hung ga but , we always preferred baji training.when sparring.

@anthonyt219 3 месяца назад

Bajiquan guy has a future! I would like to see him in muay thai or sanda

@PazCristo 2 года назад

Was the Baji takedown at 6:24 called 大纏絲崩捶?

@tiyowprasetyo Год назад

01:41 What's the most effective chinese kung fu form?

@wayneartist 2 года назад

Although they are quite fast, the footage does look slightly sped up. Nice KF though.

@Hensomisme9787 4 месяца назад

There is a reason why the last emperor of China and the president of Taiwan chose Baji practitioners as their personal bodyguards.

@sourdiesel8306 2 года назад

This looks like a grade school cafeteria fight lol

@camiloiribarren1450 2 года назад

Baji is a style that was developed and then became used by bodyguards in China. There’s a saying in Bajiquan: Baji has the legs of a bear and the claws of a tiger; stable like a bear and attacks like a tiger. Also I am a Baji practitioner so I’m happy to see this demo of what Baji can do when pressure tested.

@markalexandermaron5531 2 года назад

Hello there fellow cohort!

@camiloiribarren1450 2 года назад

@@markalexandermaron5531 hello there!

@Scholar_Of_The_Martial_Arts 2 года назад

I can't hear what he said what is the most effective kung fu style?

@y_magaming9798 2 года назад

A lot baji guys seem to be sanda as well.at least for the guys that come out of meng cun specifically.

@jasontay7655 2 года назад

Re your comment on Sanda not being fully Chinese, what are your thoughts with regards to Muay Thai? If you look at the predecessor arts like Muay Boran or Krabi Krabong, these have more “traditional” movement and striking patterns. We can see the evolution the Thai arts took when they transitioned to ring sport, arguably with influence of western boxing.

@unmessable12 2 года назад

IMHO it’s a little arbitrary to say a martial art isn’t “fully chinese” in a combat sport context cuz…yeah, striking combat sports are a pretty western phenomenon in origin. Aside from wrestling that had integrated striking there wasnt much thought given to striking duels/combat sports/consensual fighting in China or even Asia until western influence brought it there. Sanda, Muay Thai, kyokushin, all took influence from western combat sport in regard to striking. And for that matter a lot of the histories of these arts are muddled to begin with so who knows what’s fully Chinese and not. Karate took lots of influence from savate, Bagua took a lot of influence from western military/bayonet drills, etc.

@jasontay7655 2 года назад

@@unmessable12 I couldn't agree more.

@michaelterrell5061 Год назад

@@unmessable12 I disagree. There is no inherent western influence on Karate, there is a theory out out there by the karate nerd that the kick scoring principles in competition were based on French Savate(I disagree), but this was definitely not true for Kyokushin. Boxing helped inspire punching in Thai boxing, but that’s about it.

@Stolas9 2 года назад

Baji is much more effective than Wing Chun. This Baji dude has stamina issues and he should do more sparring. Also the head gear saved the Wing Chun dude many times, the Baji guy landed many pretty nice punches. Baji is awesome, it was good to watch. The Wing Chun dude had the advantage in high, reach and stamina, yet he got beaten up. Just give that Baji guy a little bit more stamina and he stomps. As a Boxer, Baji is really nice for my eyes and effektive. If they would do more sparring and focus more on fighting instead of forms and things like that, they could compete with professional Thai Boxers IMO.

@animus3312 2 года назад

Idk about that. Wing Chun guy just wasn't very good. Too light on his feet and obviously not experienced in trapping and grappling which is the style's strong suit. Chain punch only works as a finisher not as an entrance.

@Stolas9 2 года назад

@@animus3312 Wing Chun has been proven to be not effective and outdated style. What I saw from Baji, even just as training, the style is good. Footwork is good, punches are good, it's defense is good. Baji can work, it has realistic techniques and realistic mentality. Wing Chun just doesn't work, that's why you see them turning into bad Kickboxing with absolutely no Wing Chun left behind. While Baji stayed Baji here and in other videos too where I saw Baji guys sparring. Baji is truly good, I would love to see them training for competition.

@malakatan3235 2 года назад

Baji is hard style, while Wing Chun often fell to soft style trap

@animus3312 2 года назад

@@Stolas9 There's lots of bad Baji on youtube as well. That's true for any style, doesn't mean its ineffective. Wing Chun can be hard or soft. It is more flexible. Wing Chun is mainly about footwork and offense because its offensive techniques can also deflect at the same time. There's plenty of videos where Wing Chun stays Wing Chun. The main problem with modern Wing Chun is that most schools don't teach grappling even though its a big part of the style, but there are some that do.

@alexfpower 2 года назад

@@Stolas9 Wing chun can be effective but It depends how you train/use it and how much pressure testing(sparring) you do before going into a real competition for example. There is a way to train wing chun internally that can turn anyone who is relaxed enough into someone with insane short range power. This can manifest itself in the wing chun practitioner barely moving when doing a strike with the body (at short range) dealing devastating power to the opponent. However to use wing chun at its fullest potential you need to understand how to use the body mass and all of its power into every movement while having the whole body unified together(requiring massive relaxation and consistent si nim tao practice to achieve this. At its highest level internal wing chun is probably the most effective of all CMA, but reaching that level is very very difficult and rare. Look up chu song tin if you wanna know where the highest level internal wing chun comes from.(hes passed away for a few years now but its amazing stuff). Baji is also mainly an internal martial art and if practiced to its fullest potential is amazing also. I remember practicing a basic baji form when I first tried it and I felt a lot of qi in my body, so I can appreciate its own flavour of internal potential.

@TheLuconic 2 года назад

We need Baji in mma. Someone make this work!!!!

@freddy7618 2 года назад

There is another video of bajiquan fighters ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TT8HJ1-CrFI.html&ab_channel=BajiFreak, based on my limited exposure baji emphasized power conditioning-wise, intermediate level baji fighters may telegraph but they punch hard. Btw it seems they fought under sanda rules with restrictions e.g. no elbow/kick to the head.

@fazares Год назад

take out the elbows and u take out about 70/80% of Baji effectiveness..lol...the guy was amateur level at best btw

@borjadiazrodriguez4314 2 года назад

Did you said Choi Lee Fut is one of the most efective Kung Fu? Im agree about Sanda. But you dont think Shuai Jiao is Kung fu? And what about the mix that Chang Tung Sheng has taught in Taiwan? I ve there and i think is the best chinese style i have seen, by far!!! (Im not kung fu student, i been pro in Muay Thai and MMA)

@AdnanDanipagieh-gl8hh 4 месяца назад

Great baji quan

@realamericannegro977 Год назад

Truth is great practioners of kung fu actually look like they are doing kung fu like the movies or games

@Golden_Corydoras 2 года назад

面白い

@quickheavenseta 2 года назад

Baji 🔥

@timothybruce4638 Год назад

Re: breakdancing: It could even be the other way around. I’ve only practiced Chinese martial arts a little bit, but I think it has improved my dancing.

@DAF21films 9 месяцев назад

alot of breakdancing movements came from kung fu films in the 70s and 0s so no surprise there.

@moepanetta9028 Год назад

In the 1970s, wing Chun was considered the greatest thing since spaghetti 🍝 but this really shows the importance or unimportant of style, also I kinda figured the ba ji guy going to get the upper hand 🖐.

@Napalm6b 2 года назад

I've seen some impressive hung gar too.

@NoOffensePies Год назад

6.30 throw is a 狮子张口into小缠, both from 小架一路

@hiamusic8687 2 года назад

Don't see much Baji, some Baji influenced motions but maybe elbows not allowed?

@jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад

Exactly, even tho he did charge and hit with his shoulder, prety neat haha

@fazares Год назад

exactly

@colemanstarr5404 2 года назад

Baji's got pretty intense physical conditioning and is all about getting in close. But when strike aren't effective, as they often aren;'t, it always comes to clinch and takedown

@fazares 2 года назад

I couldnt see any baji here...lol

@hysterical5408 2 года назад

@@fazares I think you're blind.

@Freedm762 2 года назад

That wing chun guy really need to know how to counter the trapping

@rudichong3869 2 года назад

Well the best for me is kai men Bajiquan and Beijing style Shuai Jiao

@urantia64 2 года назад

fight commentary....pls try mr yu teng yao of wing chun. a youtube viral today

@mikehunt9884 11 месяцев назад

wing chun has some uses, it helps with re-wiring your natural reflexes and really close combat, against maybe untrained opponents, but that center line and chain punch is totally innefective in a combat situation, against someone who can actually fight, or maybe can fight a little bit.. Its pretty obvious because every time you see a wing chun guy in a fight his WC goes out the window. Bajiquan would give someone a good understanding of your grounding, thats why bajiquan people can be good at throws, they learn about staying grounded and lowering their center of gravity, plus they also have pretty strong elbow strikes, and other powerful strikes that uses the entire body.. as opposed to spinning your arms around in front of you like thats gonna do anything.

@chrisb7398 2 года назад

damn this looks uncoordinated

@lindltailor 2 года назад

San da is not really a training style, but a sports format isn't it?

@jezzaboi2168 Год назад

it can be both. there is a sanda style, and sanda ruleset(s)

@des6853 2 года назад

In a full circle though, a lot of breakdancing was inspired by and sourced through Shaolin Kung fu (and other styles).

@danielburgess7785 2 года назад

Citation please.

@des6853 2 года назад

@@danielburgess7785 This film "BBoys - A History of BreakDance (Full Documentary 2014)" was the first time I saw it in "writing". But I have done Shaolin since I was a kid, and also some bboy-ing since my teens. So I saw/felt those connections immediately: in the acrobatics, conditioning, etc.

@danielburgess7785 2 года назад

@@des6853 As a boy going into puberty, and growing rapidly in size, my parents set me up with ballet lessons. Body control and movement execution is a wide ranging skill set that covers a great deal of territory.

@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 2 года назад

Well applied. This is why watching too many Kung Fu movies is not legit training.

@neokimchi 2 года назад

as a korean i can't help but think about trousers when i hear "baji"

@Itemtotem 2 года назад

Is not Bajiquan a comprehensive and complete combat system?

@kidd32888 2 года назад

At least they actually look like fighting in Kung Fu and 王八拳

@FightCommentary 2 года назад

Didn't see this comment until now ;) Very true XDD:

@kidd32888 2 года назад

@@FightCommentary I understand. It is not like my user name literally has a STAR next to it... Wait.. 🤔🤣

@chrismcdaniel475 2 года назад

Is Baji the same as Bagua or Pakwa?

@camiloiribarren1450 2 года назад

No, but it is implemented in the Baji training. Bagua is about walking in circles and looking for angles. Baji is more direct and forwards with their techniques Bagua: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--jR0Fn80fbs.html Bajiquan: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pxdk9yWgx-I.html

@WuYixiang 2 года назад

No, Baguazhang may also have the word "Eight" in its name, but Bajiquan and Baguazhang are two different beasts.

@JOHN_WICK_101 2 года назад

All that training, comes down to kicking and punching

@bertt1055 Год назад

People forget that original Wing Chun was created for fast assimilation into troops. It was never meant to be a high level form of fighting. Bruce Lee had to modify it to make it work and he was brilliant because of his natural talents.

@javiersoriano671 2 года назад

Didn’t the bodyguards of Chairman Mao Zedong, Chiang Kai Shek, and even Sun Yatsen also know Baji Quan?

@FightCommentary 2 года назад

I believe so, but don't quote me.

@realamericannegro977 Год назад

Yeah real baijiquan is no joke and can end fights fast

@76kamikazi 2 года назад

The wing chun peoples are still holding on to Wong Chung Leoung invincible fighting record that no wing chun fighter can duplicate to this day.From what i have seen of wing chun over the past 50 years I doubt if his record was true.

@danqfrank44 2 года назад

Wing Chun is scared. Happened at the first. Would have been cool to see more low kicks or centerline punches. Although I will say, he had some very good posts.

@olharsemsonhos 2 года назад

my two cents: This elbow is NASTY! if the Baji guy was a little more strong, the other was in hospital after the match.

@doddood5516 2 года назад

Bajiquan is the best kind of kung fu dont at me

@mr.k3221 2 года назад

Where are my virtua figther people at?

@mayckonwolf 5 месяцев назад

It don't look much like baji for me,i use elbows,body colides,oblique kick maybe depends of the school or interpretation dunno.

@ghengiskilla4362 2 года назад

Any good martial artist needs experience using Thier art, combat teaches you how to apply your style.

@jasonchu4400 2 года назад

Bruce Lee had Cha Cha, Lomachenko has traditional Ukrainian Dance...

@MaartenSFS 2 года назад

Pretty decent Bajiquan, but I saw no Tongbeiquan at all. Xinyiliuhequan and Tongbeiquan are not closely related beyond a few overlapping techniques. The better comparison would be to Xingyiquan, which was derived from it. I have trained all three, but also respect the hell out of Bajiquan. If I had to start all over again and ended up on a Bajiquan path I wouldn't feel bad about it. They are all solid styles, when trained and used properly. Simple and effective.

@FightCommentary 2 года назад

Maarten!! Bro! long time no see! How have you been?

@MaartenSFS 2 года назад

@@FightCommentary Hey, not too bad. Injured my hands last year (non-MA-related), so have been spending my down time finishing up my integrated Xinyiliuhequan/Xingyiquan/dagger fighting system. It just makes more sense to train both at the same time. Good to see some videos of guys doing the real thing!

@FightCommentary 2 года назад

@@MaartenSFS Cool! Hope your hand heals soon!

@MaartenSFS 2 года назад

@@FightCommentary Thanks, mate!