2B Umpire & Crew Chief Hunter Wendelstedt ejected Tigers manager AJ Hinch following a Replay Review decision that resulted in a catcher's interference call against Detroit. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2021/...
The ump needs to ask immediately if they are asking for a review and say nothing else until they get an answer. Also I think they should raise the time to more than 20 seconds.
I like 20 second would have no problem with 30 second. The flow of the game and get these coaches to make a decision. But it sure seems like know one knows when the timer should start.
The real problem here is that the time limit wasn’t upheld. That’s the only rule broken initially and they choose to pick which ones they were going to enforce
@@davej3781 great, then managers will start to argue every close call so they have more time to check if they should ask for review. Say hello to five hour long games…
@@davej3781 It was OVER 1 minute 30 seconds BEFORE he asked for the review if he had already asked why did he keep checking the dugout to see if he should ask.
@@davej3781 Where in the rule does it say that the clock stops when the manager comes out? The video at 4:40 actually discusses the timing issue and they technically got it wrong.
You folks draw attention to the rules and how they apply to difficult situations, and you do that very well! The distinction between catcher interference and batter interference is brilliant. And the rationale for ejection you provide makes things clear for us. I for one am very impressed and I have been trained in the law.
Literally, the only problem I had during this whole "conference" (including Hinch's "conference" at the end) was that it took *WAY TOO LONG* to initiate a replay. I'm totally fine with *everything* else.
Catchers interference should be reviewable under al lcircumstances, there are no acceptable reasons a squeeze play or steal of home should be exempt from the rule
I remember Aaron Boone got a replay request rejected last year because he asked 20 seconds after the play. Here, well over a minute and they reviewed it. Doesn’t seem very consistent.
It's possible. But we also don't know what the discussion was b/w Maddon and the umpire. Maybe the umpire was saying Maddon can't review it for some reason? Because once the crew chief/Hunter comes in to talk to Maddon and the umpire, within a few seconds, they then go to review it.
That was Hinch's beef. Not the actual call. And he was right. Well beyond the 20 seconds, while his rookie pitcher is getting iced on the mound. It was the right move.
He could have asked for a review in the first second and they were clarifying what they wanted reviewed. Or madden could have been stalling to cause chaos as well
could it of been a umpires review? because they wanted to get the call right but obviously too much time had elapsed for there to be a rightful request for a review?
You guys do a FANTASTIC job....when I go out to do college play-by-play this year....I'm carrying a rule book. Some of the announcers you have featured here look and sound ridiculous after your explanations. :)
As an umpire, PLEASE not only carry a rule book, but read it pregame. Not all the college rules match the summer ball/HS rules, but registering as an official in those lower levels will teach you 85% of the basics.
I'm so used to past Managers like Jim Leyland Brad Ausmets and Ron Gardenhire (even Sparky Anderson) so the fact that it took Hinch this long to get His 1st Ejection as a Tigers Manager
I sometimes wonder, when is it that the Manager is requesting information about the review, and when is he arguing. I thought he could request an explanation about the review, but obviously can't argue a review.
Batters used to tap the plate with the bat before getting ready. That drew the umpire's attention to their position, and this was never a problem. But that was back in the old days, before they relied on instant replay.
Oh god and then Hunter doesn't do anything he's trained to do. He doesn't de-escelate, he doesn't walk away, he stands ground and provokes. I genuinely hope wendelstedt isn't here next season after this. Not a good look
Hunter is a good umpire. Certainly not the caliber of his dad The late great Harry Wendelstedt who was my mentor. I can't take exception to your de escalation and not a good look statement. Full transparency I've known hunter for 30 years so My opinion may be slightly biased.
@@kennethkobylakiewicz3157 Harry was the shiznit. I miss that guy like crazy. He was an incredible ump. Didn't always get it right, of course, but *I* think he had a way of defusing certain situations without behaving like an ass. @Zira Tival, I respectfully disagree with your assessment. A lot of this hubbub is over a rule interpretation, so Hunter and Joe were talking rules a lot of the time here. That's not something to de-escalate. The interpretation of the rules *HAS TO* be discussed between umpire and manager. Now, if you're talking about *LATER* when Wendlestedt punts AJ out of the game, I *can* understand where you're coming from, but some players/managers won't leave umps alone and are dying to get kicked out. I think this was one of those times where AJ would have followed Hunter all over the ballpark until Hunter punted him. I dunno *why* , since his team was beating the Angels at that point pretty handily, but I think Hinch came out to argue *looking* to get kicked out.
@@kennethkobylakiewicz3157 I mean I may be overstating it there but Hunter here failed in.... Basically every way possible. It's not a good look when the mics pick up an umpire actually baiting somebody after they forget how to use their eyes. Seriously how do you mis a catchers interference that blatant? "hear it" my ass anybody with vision could see it in the seats behind homeplater
@@storyofcory 100% agreed. Your comment @ Zira Tival was so eloquently worded. That was my thinking on the situation I failed to articulate it very well.
It’s cool that a woman is so into baseball and narrates and reviews small controversial plays like this. That shows true love for the game. We need more female fans in baseball. Kudos to you!
Being a Tigers fan, it was the right call but the replay never should have happened. We want the game to go faster yet this game was close to 5 hours. Now ok it was a high-scoring game but the MLB needs to pick a side and say whether it is ok for managers to stand up for their players and the clock starts after they say their peace or the clock runs from the minute the play is dead. Sloppy on the MLB parts, also I was listening to the radio broadcast of the game and they were questioning if that was the reason AJ was pissed
The only beef he could legitimately have is that it took too long to get to the review. Otherwise, the bat clearly hit the glove and the play is clearly reviewable.
It makes me wonder if the maddon didn't know this was a reviewable play because why else would he be arguing? Do umpires ask if the manager wants to challenge straight away or is it up to the manager to know the rules of what can and can't be reviewed?
Actually it’s not the first Detroit ejection of the season. Javy Baez was ejected earlier in the season and I could have sworn Hinch also got the thumb one other time this season.
@Mike Heathman Interference is a quick call. The delay that iced the pitcher was accomplished due to the poor performance of the umps to make the proper call or end the discussion right there. Maddon is a wily manager who knew what he was doing, unlike the umps.
20 seconds is too short. You don't even have time to ask what the call was and get clarification in 20 seconds. You might not even know what the call was for a minute or two if it's a confusing play
I think Hinch has an argument here. How long can you stall before you ask for the review? That's exactly what Maddon was doing he kept looking and asking are we reviewing this to his bench. They get it right but there is a time limit.
Hinch was upset saying that they were icing his pitcher. As the crew chief he should have got his ass to home and get in the discussion earlier about the review or not.
Catchers interference on a swing, OK. Catchers interference on a Check Swing???? Regardless, the Angles ending up winning that game after trailing 10-2. This particular call had nothing to do with the ultimate result, except of course, Hinch didn't have to watch this epic failure (or epic comeback, depending on who you are rooting for) from the dugout.
@@MarcusDET It sure makes sense to anyone that knows the rules. Announcers don't know the difference between a foul ball and a foul tip. They don't know the difference between obstruction and interference. They constantly give out incorrect rule interpretations when they are confused by what is happening, which is often. I hope you are not one of the fans that learn the rules from the announcers.
@Coding Crusader I did know! I’m suggesting they collaborate, because Jomboy has a good narration voice, while this person sounds like a prepubescent 12 year old that just sucked on some helium, and its kind of hard to listen to, but still interesting.
This dude goes out of his way to apologize for and defend umpires to a ridiculous degree while snarkily pointing out every little mistake of announcers and managers. Massive double standard.
Nonsense. CCS points out the rules and often tells us when the umpires are wrong. Mistakes by idiot announcers cause idiot fans to think the announcers are right and the umpires are wrong, which is almost never true.
it's impossible to point out every mistake an announcer makes, youtube doesn't allow video uploads that are that long :) To be fair to them, they often have to say stuff before they've had time to process what really has occurred to avoid dead air.
This is a bad call…. I don’t think you should be able to call catchers interference when he’s not trying to swing. He’s clearly doing check swing which the bat barely gets off his shoulder. The review should of just called it a ball and moved on and everyone would be happy
1 Request. Please clarify and don't reiterate catchers "INTERFERENCE". Catchers don't interfere, they obstruct. Interference is done by the 'Offence', Interference is done by the 'Defense'.
"didn't hear it" so we're ignoring you have to be able to see to umpire in the MLB. Ok The home plate ump fucked this up from go, every ounce of it. Don't hide behind "didn't hear it" that is so fucking stupid I'd imagine hellen keller's ghost is pissed at you
I agree with the comments that the issue was the time limit. The biggest issue I have is the comments from the umpire. He was unprofessional in his handling of this situation.
Ron Darling, the Mets color commentator, changed my opinion of catcher's interference. He says it usually happens when the batter is fooled by the pitch, makes a terrible swing, and then gets rewarded for being fooled. There needs to be a judgment call mixed in with this. The only thing the catcher interfered with in this case was a swing and miss or a very foul ball. For the record, I mean the rule needs changing, not just about the call.
A.J Hinch-where is his garbage can so he can insert himself into it. Tigers are having a bad couple days. This was an easy call and A.J. is just foolish for even arguing the call. Then you have Mr Morris, making racist comments about the best player currently in the game.
