Ejections 112-113 - Ron Kulpa Ejects Mike Shildt & Chad Fairchild Tosses Gensis Cabrera in Cincy 

5th umpire in the booth is a stupid fucking idea.

What is the purpose of the managers "wait" sign if they CAN (have the right) challenge within 20 seconds anyway?

Spoiler alert: If the roles were reversed, the ridiculous homer broadcast crew (who ironically do not seem to understand the rules in the 1st place), would have said "what can I tell you....the rules are the rules"

30 seconds is the vare minimum. 20 is fucking absurd

What exasperated the missed call on the pitch was the Reds pitchers getting calls 3" off the plate.

I like the idea of adding a replay umpire in the booth and doing away with the challenge. That is how it is in College Football and it works pretty well. Now where the defense may have an advantage in that world is the team could use a mound visit to give the replay umpire more time to look at the play (as we see in College Football when a team calls a timeout) or decide to do a quick play such as a pickoff attempt to reduce the amount of time the replay umpire has to look at a play (as we see when the offense rushes to the line to get a play off).

20 seconds is simply to short. No time to look back and take a decision.

I think everyone involved thinks that 30s is still the rule

nate moore i'm your secret mother

I'm a lifelong Cardinals fan. . .And Cabrera's act was embarrassing to say the least. I grew up watching perhaps the greatest Cardinal of them all, Stan "The Man" Musial. One of the amazing stats from his Hall of Fame career was. . .Stan NEVER got thrown out of a game. Now you know that in 22 years in the majors there had to be several times Stan could have gotten all upset about an ump's call. But with the kind of class that's sadly missing in many of today's millionaire players, Stan just walked back to the dugout and let it roll off his back. He knew he'd get another chance at the plate and he focused on looking forward to that. I'm not a big fan of the umps, but the playground childishness of more and more players is really turning me off. And as far as hitters go I really have seen enough of these guys taking a third strike and then making a face, moaning and groaning about the call. Look, if you have 2 strikes on ya and the pitch was close enough that the ump called it a strike, even if it was a little outside the zone, then with 2 strikes you need to either swing and do the best you can with it OR learn to foul pitches like that off. . .Stan used to do that all the time. Fouling off pitches you can't handle or don't like with 2 strikes on ya is a skill that seems all but forgotten these days. But as a Cardinals fan I really hated seeing Cabrera's little league act.

Wow Gil you have been MOVING the last couple days

How is the umpire being held accountable. Being shown a sheet that you missed one? That isn't accountability. Fines, suspensions, loss of pay, those are holding to accountability not a sheet that says your human.

That is stupid! What if the local TV drags their butt with cuing up replays? Does each team have immediate access to the separate MLB Cameras? 20 seconds is ridiculous.

The one thing I have learned from your channel more than anything else, is that most announcers don't know their asses from their elbows.

Is the twenty second shot clock actually displayed at the park?

I like the idea of a 5 umpire crew for 2 reasons, first, if one gets hurt and has to leave the game they can replace him on the spot, and they can call New York like they do now, and second, he can do the simple replays, sometimes it takes longer for them to connect to New York than it does to review the play, and if it needs more time than call New York

You can add a "fifth umpire": just do it like the NHL does with their games, a room full of screens up in NYC with the Home Plate ump (and the Crew Chief, if serving as a base ump) having radio links to NYC.

And if you think 20 seconds is a short time, in the National Rugby League in Australia, captains have only 10 seconds to challenge calls, and they don’t get the benefit of their own replay staffs to help decide when to challenge. They have to make the best decision they can, and they only get one unsuccessful challenge per match. They also don’t get the benefit of asking the referee to initiate a challenge even if they’re out of challenges. MLB teams have it comparably easier and still can’t make a decision in a timely manner.

Here's the thing about Schildt's ejection... even if there had still been a 30 second clock, Schildt would have *still* exceeded it (granted, only by one second).

It’s kind of funny how the clock is supposed to speed up the game but then the amount of time Schildt spent arguing slowed everything down again. I like your idea of having a 5th umpire in the booth. Also I can’t believe Cabrera stuck his tongue out at the umpire haha took me back to the playground in grade one. Also reminds me a bit of Joe Kelly last year. I wonder if we’ll see some memes come from this ejection.

Why don't they just give teams something like 60 seconds of challenge review time, total, for the game. If you wanna use 30 seconds reviewing a play in the 2nd inning, you've only got 30 seconds for the rest of the game. You wanna use 45? You've only got 15 left. Clock could be triggered by the dugout phone. Most games there's only 1 or 2 potentially reviewable calls anyway. I'd rather see correct calls than be able to go to bed 2 minutes earlier.

simple solution do away with instant replay in all sports. it takes away from the game more than a wrong call does, especially when with replay they still can't get it right.

They need to focus on getting calls right, not sit here and say 20 seconds is up, if it is questionable, an automatic review should be called by New York

MLB could learn from the NHL. Best replay protocol of any sport imo

everyone held accountable except the umpires. Bucknor behind the plate two games ago was absolutely terrible….and one sided. check the pitch chart!

First, 20 seconds is ridiculous. Who on earth would think that’s reasonable? Second, the umpire squeezed the plate on the ball call and incited the entire ejection of the pitcher. Maddening.

MLB should start finning announcers who make up stuff or completely forget what happened 5 seconds ago. Because most people don’t actually know the rules and then they just hear the announcers saying something which is almost always wrong and they just say it to not make there team look as bad. While the umpires who are usually right, now look like they don’t know what there doing.

So, if I am following the explanation of the :20 rule, just challenge EVERY call as soon as it is made and make the umps review everything.

Bad Pitch framing will make a strike look like a ball

i want mlb to hold these damn annoucers that claim and say this crap so off the mark is wrong puinshied or fine

In the interest of time we implemented a rule that is inherent to actually take more time because there wasn't enough time to decide to object to a call.... ok... good... got it... play ball when it's ok to....

Pace of play. You can't allow them to wait forever

Must be a reds fan. Lol.

goal should be to get the play right in the first place. play was not bang bang. third call umps got wrong in that one game.

This narrator is a nitwit I idea is get the CALL RIGHT!

Pitcher was already out of game going to showers. Why toss him? Just more paper work!!

Wtf? How do you eject a pitcher that has already been taken out of the ball game? He should change his name to Brad Immaturechild.

How are umps "held accountable?"

Stop 🛑 defending umpires!!!!!

Are teams allowed to bring their own replay equipment or do they have to use the home team supplied equipment? Are they allowed to record from any view point so as to have quick access to them? Or do they only get the Same looks we get on TV?

20 seconds doesn't seem like much time. Let's have 30 seconds for challenges and add 1 more umpire crew so 8 umpires are on Replay at a time. They can eat handle 2 games and 1 can "supervise"

I will say if MLB really is being cheap to pay a 5th umpire for the review clocks, that’s a farce on the owners and commissioner. Yet players are getting $250 million dollar contracts. These guys are making $150-$250K base salary. 1% for a $10M a year player and under 10% for a veteran’s minimum salary. So if they owners don’t wanna pony up or Commissioner, then there really is no option. Just a bad look for the league if true.

Replay has made all umpires and referees worse……

Sorry man, but your analysis is completely wrong. First, going off the away announcers analysis is irresponsible since they are, in fact, sitting in a booth in STL watching the game on TV and lack the complete situational awareness that they would otherwise have watching the game in person. You should have chose a more accurate method when using your kangaroo clock. Secondly, read the rule again. It’s only 20 seconds when the call is made as the final out of an inning or to end the game.

Terrible review for the 5 umpire in the booth....

The funny thing is it took more time to decide if the replay review was allowed, than it would've taken to review the call and change it to the correct one. I guess my point is why not do what the NFL does now and NCAA football and have a booth initiated challenge? MLB can't afford to hire an extra umpire for each crew to do a replay review? If we want to get the calls right, why not do it this way? What Gil says is 100 percent correct. The entire purpose of replay was to get every call possible called correctly and now it's not happening.

I've had enough of the TV announcer sarcasm. I'd like to see them behind the plate sometime. And that strike zone box overlay makes it worse; it's in accurate. Get rid of it.

If you watched the game/series you WOULD KNOWN/UNDERSTOOD why shildt was mad…the ump’s had no less than 4 calls overturned in this series…2 in this game and should of been 3…let alone they were terrible the entire series

In 40+ years watching baseball, I can't remember umpiring being as bad as it is this year, especially balls & strikes.

I'm not a fan of "challenges", especially in games with dead ball situations after plays (I can understand it in NFL where clock matters and they do booth reviews in certain times). Either get the call right with reviews or don't do reviews at all. Pick a set of calls that get reviewed automatically in tight situations and then review them when anyone thinks it's a close enough call to check (one of the umpires, either coach or the players). Correct calls are more important than "pace of play".

“Held accountable” no no no. You don’t get to just throw that out there . Tell us , how are the umps held accountable ?

should've challenged earlier, he was safe by a lot. Edit: Are you also gonna do Chris Woodward and Brock Holt.

Ump on a power trip tossing Cabrera after hes already been taken out. What a clown.

Yankees it happened to

Just wish that the Announcers would get a copy of the rules and that MLB would let the umpires reveal what the scenario is!

Challenges suck! Whatever happened to in your face, kick dirt on the umpires, hat throwing arguments Billy Martin, Earl Weaver, Lou Piniella style?

Card announcers are a joke. They should smarten up before they tell the viewers what they think the rules are. The rule is clear: Team has 20 seconds to challenge or not. The rule is not 21 or 25 or 30 seconds. 20 seconds and that's it. If the team cannot decide by 20 seconds play has to keep going. Very ignorant and typical of Cards announcers to whine, complain and make false claims.

Those umpires were terrible all weekend! Just more ammunition to show how the umpires are conspiring with the league to fix games. The Reds franchise is failing and attendance if just above the Pirates low levels. The league wants them in the playoffs if not the WS winner

Shildt/ Cards replay team took to much time so he has nothing to complain about. Cabrera should be suspended a game or two but won't be because he's a Cardinal. If that was a Reds pitcher they would hand out a 5 game suspension for hurting the umps feelings to much. It's just how MLB is this year.

If the catcher didn't frame the pitch, it would have probably been called a strike.

needs to be upped as well they need a league eye in sky to over rule, baseball looking bad lately when they want "to get things right"

simple solution do away with instant replay in all sports. it takes away from the game more than a wrong call does, especially when with replay they still can't get it right.