He warned everyone before hand before this was not going to be his typical stuff. He said dont expect me to play crazy stuff. This band was stuff he wanted to play
Absolutely. This entire reaction to the song is coming from folks who didn't see his video previous to releasing the single. Wanting blast beats and quadruplets on the double bass during a dark, moody song is just... lame. It doesn't fit. Enjoy the song for how it is crafted... yeesh.
That’s cool! But it also doesn’t mean we need to like it.. 😂 he sets a precedent with his talent so naturally people will expect something good… not whatever this is… cause it’s terribly boring.
Chill. This is only the 1st song of the band. Also, its not about the drummer and show off unnecessary. This isn't a cover anymore. Its a BAND.@@TarmacSkin
That was what I was thinking too, I like the chill factor. But, I get respecting your band-mates and not just playing for one member's audience, if you listen to a lot of his covers he tends to compliment a song and not simply play over it.
I have been a fan of Estepario for years and I will be 100% honest with you. I like the project and I understand where he’s coming from. He said when he announced the band that it wouldn’t be what you would expect from him. But to be honest, his vibe and his precision is something to admire always. Cool band, cool concept. I’d like to see more of it.
I was a session drummer in the 90s. I auditioned for a bunch of bands on the verge of stuff who had deals in place. I was giving them tapes ( yep that was still a thing 🥹 ) with tons of epic technical stuff. I only got 3 auditions. Out of about 20. It was funny cause a guy who was a drum student of mine go one of the gigs. I went to see the band at a decent sized venue in the U.K. went backstage. We are shooting the shit i mentioned I had sent in my tape but didn’t get through to live. We were laughing & one of the band members comes over and asks what’s up. We tell him. He’s like - oh man I remember that tape with all the crazy virtuoso stuff. We just wanted a guy to keep it solid. Bands have a serious lack of imagination for what you CAN do. If it’s not what you DO, DO! - our boy here is doing the right thing showing his versatility. Because some people think if you play the hard stuff that you can’t play the easy stuff. 🤷🏻♂️
No, those of us who watch everything Jorge uploads were not surprised by this- he told us the influences the 3 of them are pulling from for this band, & that he's not going to do crazy, absurdly technical, sh!t just for the sake of it in the middle of songs they're writing... & thank God he can get together with musicians & write *music* rather than just playing crazy fast & giving technical masterclasses! ;) I got early Breaking Benjamin meets Deftones from this one (& that's a solid compliment in my book!), but considering Peter & Chris play together in a jazz band (& I think both of them went to Berklee's campus in Valencia for their masters, & thus met Jorge there), they likely have the musical chops to take us down all sorts of interesting paths.... & I'm 100% here for it!! :)
I mean he kinda did that on purpose. He does not wanna be the focus of the band, he wants to be part of the 3 pieces. Its so wierd to me that people all wanna bitch about how he couldnt just play for the music and when he does it, they bitch it was boring.
@@codyscards6698 It's not him necessarily doing that on purpose, the singer wrote the song. It's a slow tempo/bpm song so as a drummer you have to adjust. your not just blast beating through this song it wouldn't make sense. So sure Technically he's not playing fast intentionally because it wouldn't make sense lol
@@jamesde4428 i mean, usually drummers write their parts to a song. you don't have to write the main melody to write drum parts. you write them to fit into the existing song structure. or you write the drum parts and then create the melody with guitars on top of it.
@@codyscards6698 it was boring. if his name wasn't associated with this band no one would care. so far the criticism is valid. when you listen to the greats you know it's them regardless of what they're playing. he is a very good drummer and he has the chops of a great drummer but musically it's not there.
I loved it and want more! Moody and intense with great dynamics, smooth vocals with an edge, technically clean and a gutsy bass and rock solid drumming. The video production was relatively simple, but effective and showcased the music and the guys. As far as expectations, EES has played with many bands and covered about every musical genre while he's built up a massive audience on social media. He's said he's doing this for himself and obviously wants to do his own thing and not be put in a category box. I applaud it!
This is actually a pretty dope song. Thanks for covering this, I love this guy. He's definitely holding back, but it's appropriate for the song. Very well written.
I read in the comments that these song has vibes from: Deftones, Linkin Park, Incubus, Korn, Royal Blood, QOTSA, Vola, The Ocean, Karnivool, Chevelle, Breaking Benjamin, Quicksand, Fighstar, Tool .. OMG, no wonder why this song is so fucking good! For the record: Both the bass and the guitar player play together in a fusion-jazz project called "Valmuz", so they are not metalheads gatekeepers purists... and maybe thats why it sounds fresh and uncompromised. And people like it for the most part. More of this please!
@@phreshxmetaloh yeah, you're right. Pretty generic and easy to get. But then it's up to each one of us to decide if to be "generic" is good or bad. I think they sound "generic" because they want to. Not because they don't know any better 😉
Been following Estepario since he had 50k followers, and this just impressed me even more that he can play just simply what the song needs instead of showcasing his chops. We all know he has chops already.
I like it. It's going on my playlist. Sure, he's not going ham with one-handed blast beats but he doesn't have to. We all know he's a beast and he's got nothing to prove. It's a solid song. I'm sure they'll put out something harder where he gets to show off more eventually.
The Cost just dropped their second song/video and I think it's closer to what you were expecting. Would be interested in seeing you follow up by reacting to that song as well.
They're like a cleaned up Mastodon with a more ranged vocalist. Not insulting either band by saying that. The next song is much heavier and he still doesn't go crazy on drums. He plays what fits the song wonderfully and shows some heat in transitions and where you would. I think he prefers to write a great song as a unit than take the spotlight and that's great to see
EES did do a video where he set the expectations. He said, slow and it will not be big heavy metal stuff. But they want to find their sound and go through that entire journey.
I liked it a lot tbh, especially because we know his normal crazy content and also his former band he was in. Homie made a banger with his band and reminded everyone that sometimes less is more and you don't need to show off and go all out to make something good.
Antiphrost just killing the few Dutchmen in chat was hilarious. He needs a raise. Also, I like Stoner and Stoner Metal and this lingers to the side of it, so I guess it should make my playlist.
I understand why this is what his band sounds like. For myself, I released a progressive deathcore album last year, and I released my completely re-recorded and modified St. Anger album this year, but I don't often listen to metal in my own time and if I were in a band, I wouldn't want to play that stuff. Honestly, I'd just want to play drums in like a fun pop rock band or something. I wouldn't have to worry about playing something really difficult and I could just have fun and enjoy the band experience.
I dig it, it's pretty 90s/2000s Radio Rock which is what I'm known for from touring in Radio acts. Tad weird for El estapario though. For real though Rock has a ton of hidden shredders whom never Shred on anything.
This reminds of that mid-2000s feel. It would have 100% been at home among Adema, Ill Nino, Ra and bands like that. I loved those bands and really miss that era of music. It's cool that certain bands have been bringing it back. Hell, even Left To Suffer has added some Nu Metal stuff to their music. I like this a lot.
I thought this was a joke at first, then thought it was instrumental, then it was not what I expected at all, but I really fucking dig it!!!!! Gojira meets Soundgarden with Layne making guest appearances.....
I love the song, it’s exactly what I would listen to and I really respect they’ve made a choice for him not go bananas on the kit. I expect as more comes out they will have some cheeky solos or techy breakdowns.
I dig it. Playing what's right for the song, not overplaying. He knows he'll have plenty of opportunities to show off in other songs and in live performances, this is just a good groove played well by all 3. Keen to see what else they do.
I think they chose to introduce the BAND first. I think the vocal melody is really good, but I expect he’ll show off more on others now that the band has been introduced.
Might not be what we wanted but damn was what my playlists needed 😂. Listen to it a few times I have it mixed in with much heavier tracks it flows so well.
Sounds a lot like just about anything Clint Lowery (Sevendust guitarist) does. Dark New Day - Brother, Sevendust, Hello Demons... Meet Skeletons or even his solo stuff.
i like the song. And he said before the video dropped that it wasn't going to be him just going off. Also they made this song in like a weekend... The thing i love about this song is that his haters can't say he can't drum in a band or that he can't drum in the pocket anymore. Proved them wrong with 1 song.
It's the style of music that can reach out to many different audiences. It's not too heavy to make non-metal lovers turn away, but heavy enough to keep metal lovers in. Some call it "safe", but I call it "Brilliant". And as you mentioned sometimes as an artist you want to branch out of your "Norm", and audiences don't always jump on board. I will make a reference to my dad who was a studio musician (drummer)/producer (before youtube, everyone now is this). He would work with the craziest variety of people from Snoop, Mariah Carrie, did a tour for Paul Simon, an album with Steve Vai, house musician for Arsenio Hall and Lopez Tonight, and his drum teacher was Jeff Porcaro. But at the end of the day this guy only wants to create soft, simple, and atmospheric music. Specifically music that has no drumming in it. My dad LOVES El Estepario and has taken on his challenges (Only an x% of drummers can do this) finding them super refreshing. But seeing how an artist like my dad branches away from his "gift" because he prefers music that doesn't incorporate his gift I can see that in any artist that doesn't "Hold up" to audience expectations. Not dishing soap in any direction, hoping to just dive deeper on what you mentioned that an artist can want to do something completely off from what they're known for doing.
5:45 THRICE ? This also reminds me of Trade Wind. You should check them, it's Jesse from Stick To Your Guns and other dude from Stray From the Path and else I think
I'd say El Estepario is perhaps just as well-known for his grooves (he is also known as "The Groovefather," after all) as for the innovations to technique he brings to the drumming world. Still, it would be fun to see him use crazy-innovative techniques in an original song.
He said their first few songs wont be as heavy as expected. He also said that the new band isnt going to be about what the fans want sometimes, and they are going to play what they feel like at the time. He also hinted that they may progress through levels of heavier stuff eventually.
