Elation⎮Miraculous Ladybug Season 5 Review 

The latter seems more likely given the entire situation

Andre the ice man at this point is alarmingly concerned about minors relationships with eachother and if you think about it it is getting weirder by the minute.

And he would make one for kagami and marinette as friends when the two of them went with Adrien

The other option is that Andre canonically has an OTP and considers marichat against his adrienette and ladynoir otps

yea cuz IT WAS FOR MARINETTE and luka, he doesnt want to give it to marinette and chat cuz he ships LADYBUG with chat, he doesnt care about mari tbh

Nah fam if’s the “Alya has her Come to Jesus moment” that sent me.

I would really like to see an akumatised Marinette and Alya coming in for the rescue.

We all know there would be some bunnix ex machina to revive marinette

I'd pay to see that ending instead of Adrien and marinette walking off into the sunset together at the end of the show

This was sooo good

You'd think he'd learn from the first time not to ship actual people and get upset when that ship when doesn't go his way. But nope.

@JayxiumYT [JYT] When Adrien got akumatised, that time line was erased..

A real Marichat hater

He needs to go In a hospital

If they actually do that and pull it off, I'll be impressed. It's such an interesting concept that shouldn't be a one-off thing

I’m pretty sure s5 is the last season cause hawk moth gets revealed at the end of this one

@@holo-star7097 But there's supposed to be a new Hawkmoth in the future

@@holo-star7097 there will be an another hawk moth it was said in the timetagger episode I believe

@@holo-star7097 But do t they have plans for up to 12 seasons?

People have been calling Marinette out for years

Mari does love Adrien tho. She still does. She’s just trying to ignore those feelings after what happened with luka, she feels like she can’t be with a civilian, so she’s projecting her feelings onto chat noir. I believe she does like chat but she 100% loves Adrien.

@@Zvwry more of obsession but yes she still has feelings for Adrien

I disagree that Ladybug rejected Cat Noir "too often". No one has to accept advances from someone they don't reciprocate those feelings with. 100% agree with the rest, though.

@@starsiadraws oh what I meant was that after all her rejection, cn got the hint and moved on. And he didn't wait for her to change her feelings and he didn't stick around to be treated like a plan B. But I agree with you, you can never reject someone "too often".

Being a 17 y/o fan thinking about something so sinister makes me look at the fandom, of which I thought would be with people my age +/- 6 years, a little different :(

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@@g.e.m.gdynamight7613 lmao i get it the show started 6-7 years ago so youre like in the normal age group

@@g.e.m.gdynamight7613 The show came out when i was 16. I'm in my 20s now 💀

With the exception that the fandom isn't willing to commit murder for it

yeah but its like adrien as cat noir doesn’t know that marinette actually knows him enough to like him, he actually believes thats shes just a super fan and we can clearly see how fed up he is with fans obsessing over him in this episode, so he feels like hes just taking advantage of her just idolizing cat noir and not actually liking the person underneath

She must sleep there and talk to tikki about marinette's love life

We don't talk about that obsessed RU-vidr.

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Says the troll who is obsessed with a ship that is never gonna sail again 🙄

​@@kayo4344correct, Adrien x Zoe is NEVER gonna happen

​@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydolli bet u r just mad that she doesn't like kagami💀

Yup and that's why he refused to be with Marinette. Because of the power dynamic between a superhero and a civilian. Of course this would ALL be avoided if they knew each others identities, but of course, they can't do that until Monarch is defeated. But that's what makes angst so good! The only love square ship that could REALLY work at this point in time is Adrien and Marinette. Because they'd both run off to save the day whenever a villain would appear, avoiding any random ghosting situations that could occur like in Lukanette and Adrigami. Ladybug and Cat Noir can't work because they'd babble their secret identities. And clearly Marichat can't work because of all this power dynamic angst and misunderstandings from both sides (Marinette is projecting her feelings for Adrien onto Cat Noir since she can't be with a civilian, and same for Adrien except he just noticed Marinette and moved on from Ladybug. Also he thinks shes a regular civilian but of course, she knows him quite well as Ladybug).

There in highschool actually.

@@forever.l.a59414 theyre 13 14 15 16 around these ages not too far off

they are in high school i think, i am 15 in the second grade of high school so my first grade i was 14

@@prettylife6086 they are 14

​@@scaramouche7210 In France, 14 is in middle school age range. Students start middle school in France at age 11 and end between ages 14 and 15, so the characters here are in their last year of middle school.

Good one 😄

EXACTLY

Yes. But he also doesn't like Marinette.

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll wasn't plagg supportive and TRYING to get Adrien to give up on ladybug to be with Marinette? Especially for the baked goods

Wayhem. And for the show writers to ruin his character. Show writers are mega dead.

While it would be awesome to have Marinetter akumatized and Scarabella back, wouldn't it be too obvious who Ladybug is if when this one girl gets akumatized someone else is doing Ladybug's role? I know Gabe is a smooth brain but c'mon!

@@banjiroxtr3237 while it would present a problem for her secret identity, she has fooled old smooth brain Gabe before. like in the episode where Alya borrowed the ladybug miraculous yet she was the one who partially solved the problem. Yet Gabriel doesn't think about the fact that Marinette leaving right as a new "Ladybug" hero shows up on the scene might not be a coincidence.

@@banjiroxtr3237 I honestly think all Scarabella would have to do is shout "LADYBUG'S OUT OF TOWN!" in front of Cat Noir and akumatized Marinette and maybe smooth-brain Gabe wouldn't even think of it

Honestly when Gabe didn't think to like- look for when ladybug and chatnoir would go to detransform when he had the chance instead of just trying to fight them when they have their powers, I officially realized he's p smooth brained

@@ItsMinnowSeasonI mean that’s kind of the point of Optigami right?

Yeah, Ladybug going after Cat Noir like this seems kinda worse than when it was the reverse. He would be annoying and distracting, but he was also be a hopeless romantic. Flowers, compliments on both physical and personal traits, being there as a friend. He pushed a bit, but a quick word and discussion would normally set him right. Especially since he often got some kind of consequence for going too far sometimes, even if it’s over exaggerated for entertainment effect. With Ladybug though, it just comes across as creepy. I think it doesn’t help that early Marinette was very creepy in the way she crushed on Adrien, and some of that leaks into Ladybug now. It’s hard for me to cheer for Mari/LB right now because she really did just transfer her obsessive feelings from one person to another. CN also has the backstory of being Adrien, who is bad at social cues and is trying to learn the best he can. But Mari doesn’t really have that excuse, as she could get solid advice from her parents or something. It’s almost like they wanted to explore that hero/civilian relationship dynamic, but stuck with CN and Mari because he’s a guy with the status. Which makes the audience more alert to this power dynamic as it’s more common and often (for good or bad) overly scrutinized.

I get what you're saying, there's a lot of characters in the show who just don't seem to know what consent is (⁠٥⁠↼⁠_⁠↼⁠)

@@archer7139 True but when it's the main characters doing it...

Being creepy I don’t know but at least Andre didn’t sugar coat it like the other characters have done for over 4 seasons now

Nathalie too in season one

Nathaniel too

Glad I wasn't the only one

SAME

Knowing austric that storyline was gonna be forgotten anyway so...

He also did seem fine with Adrigami in Lies. And was actually a bit shocked when Adrien left Kagami.

Marrinette shouldn’t even be friends with boys anymore she is too stupid to handle love.

Or it spreads across his whole body

Pretty sure that's the same thing they did in the episode Ms. Bustier got akumatized. List them pls I wanna check them out.

Exactly! I've been reading this kind of fics for like 2 years now. Pretty sure I've seen thousands of Marichat fics where they hang out fall in love and make out. I've also seen fanfics where LB falls for Chat and he says he likes someone else and she cries. And also Adrienette fics where he falls for Mari but she keeps thinking of Chat. The Whole season is just fanfictions coming to live.

Yeah at least once right

Unfortunately plot armour prevents that from happening

@@rednetherbrick3178 yeah

OMG samee! I like Mari chat, but it’s hypocritical for marionette to reject the guy she spent 4 GOSH DANG SEASONS CHASING AFTER. She has no idea what she’s passing up, I hope the writers make things write and finally get those two together. As a hopeless romantic, I would literally KILL to have a guy fawn over me the way Adrien fawns over marinette😭💓

The darkest things about Adrien, being his father's archenemy (or second because of LB) and potentially his father's murderer...and yes I know the second one is accidental, but still. Maybe the writers will have Gabe just lose his arm instead of straight up killing off their main villain

I agree with you, i Love marichat, it's my fave ship.

Well, we know how good Nino can keep secrets

​@@duusu2608No he is not

Yeah. I think Luka would be way better to be for Adrien what Alya is for Marienette. Nino would be just a bad choice

Ikr I literally thought of the same thing

maybe a misstranslation?

I think it was the alliance ring that stored the powers and Nathalie just equipped the crossbow's arrow with the powers. Just like Glaciator used the tiger on his ice-cream-shots

The goat can’t make things that are already magic but that doesn’t mean it can’t infuse things with magic

@@duusu2608 yeah, but glaciator was given the power of the tiger. Nathalie was given the goat, yet uses venom to track down the heroes

Ikr

I thought he promised to stop in the Gorillaza episode but no creeper's gonna creep

fr like it’s so embarrassing like girlie please stop invading his personal space, it’s not cute. why must people behave this way around celebrities like they are people too.

Really, I agreed with Alec: Who needs an Ice Cream Man who doesn't give you what you order?

@@johannesseyfried7933 EXACTLY!!

@@kainightshade5033 Doesn't help that he's so obsessed with people's relationships. Let it go, Dude! I don't care what your Strawberry Ice Cream foretold you! Honestly, comparing Andre to Shippers would almost be insulting. Because most reasonable folks know that you shouldn't ship real people. It's weird.

@@johannesseyfried7933 YES! and you know what else? He wastes all that time focusing on other people's relationships, especially kids, ever wonder where HIS partner is? Yes, He or she was smart and ran from his creepy ass

@@kainightshade5033 I mean....Andre *could* be ace.... Not that it would change much about his weird attitude. Or his even weirder Business. I like the Idea behind it, but I doubt it earns him much Money.

Watch his determination review then you'll know

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