Elden Ring Haters Are Upset You Have to Beat Mohg to Access Shadow of the Erdtree 

Why would you wanna buy a $40 dlc if you can't even defeat Mohg?

You've had two years to beat Mohg.

They don’t wanna defeat Mohg when every boss in the dlc is probably gonna be harder than him 💀

I just saw a guy on an Elden Ring facebook group seething that it was unfair because he’s an “Elden Ring pro” and hasn’t been able to fing Mohgwyn Palace. Like dude, it literally took you more time to complain on facebook than just taking 30 seconds to search “how to get to Mohgwyn Palace” 💀💀💀💀

Wait until they find out that the Ringed city DLC for Dark souls 3 requires to beat the entire game up until the final boss.

At this point I just think there is an entire population of people who don't want TO PLAY A GAME they just want TO BE ABLE TO SAY THEY HAVE PLAYED A GAME.

All i hear is "SKILL ISSUE"

Based off of what was said, if you cant beat mohg, youd probably get steam rolled by the DLC bosses anyway, seeing as how they have been stated to be stronger and way faster than base game bosses

Yes...because you...have to play a game...in order to play the DLC...I mean...are we really surprised by this?

Mohg has so many scaling options to adjust the difficulty. 1. Mohg's Shackle 2. Purifying Crystal Tear 3. Spirit Ashe's (Mimic) If they can't beat him then they have no biz even playing the DLC.

The only reason I can think people would buy the DLC without actually playing the base game is that gaming has a horrible FOMO attitude for god damn everything now, and, well, hey! Shadow of the Erdtree is the big bad thing on the block, so, they absolutely must pay to own it, only to find out they aren't getting what they wanted it to be... and thus, complain afterward.

If a dev is making something that's hard to players INTENTIONALLY, then they're doing a good thing.

I don't understand people who says this, clearly never played other fromsoft games. Look at Dark souls 1 to access the DLC you have get to Darkroot basin, go to the bottom defeat the hydra , hug the left wall of the lake till you see a the golden crystal gollum (which sometimes doesn't spawn so you exit and reload till it does). Then after you've killed it you talk to girl that was inside it, Then travel to the beginning of the Dukes archive where you'll see another gold crystal gollum, kill it and pick what it drops and finally travel back to Darkroot basin where you talked to the girl and step through the portal and congratulations you can play the DLC. Simples.

Now imagine if there was an option to start right at the beginning of the DLC area with an appropriately leveled/geared character, bypassing the need to learn the game. Then they would just complain that SotE is just "too punishing" for newcomers.

If these players can't beat Mogh, surely they haven't beaten Malenia or even finished the game for that matter. And Mogh may not be the easiest boss in the game, but he isn't the hardest.

Random Dev: But Miyazaki, 70% of our players can't access the DLC Miyazaki: *lul*

Reminds me of the 2 DLCs for Zelda Breath of the Wilds. The 1st DLC, Trials of the Master Sword, required that you have the Master Sword, which requires 13 hearts minimum. The 2nd DLC, Champion's Ballad, required you to unlock all 4 Divine Beasts and have the Master Sword before you can access it. While both these things aren't technically as "challenging" as getting to Mohg and beating him, its still a requirement to access them. You can't access the DLCs from the menu, because they're an expansion to the open world...

Elden Ring is a videogame about exploration, overcoming challenges, and figuring things out for yourself. The dlc will have you exploring, overcoming challenges, and figuring things out for yourself. People are somehow shocked that getting to the dlc will require you to explore, overcome challenges, and figure out how to get to mogh yourself. Even then, Google and Spirit summons are there if those things are too much, no shame in using them.

Seriously, From Soft DLCs are often so much harder than the base game, I think it's not the worst thing to have something of a skill check before entering the next hellhole

This isn't anything new. In Dark Souls 1, you had to kill a certain enemy in Anor Londo to trigger the cutscene in the cave in Darkroot Basin behind the Hydra. I've only played the Scholar of the First Sin edition for DS2 when it comes to the DLC's, but you can access them by falling to the chasm in Majula midway through the chasm. In Dark Souls 3, you access the first DLC by interacting with Gael in the Cathedral of the Deep, the second DLC is accessed right after the first one or if you want to access the second directly, it's right before the final boss of the base game. In Bloodborne you had to be grabbed by an Amygdala in a place that can be accessed later in the main game. People complaining about fighting an endgame boss has some merit a bit, just because ER is a way bigger game than the previous games, but it's something From Soft has always done. P.S If you read my TED talk, congrats cause I need to cut this down holy shit.

I won't say "skill issue", but for years we knew that Elden Ring's DLC will tell what happened with Mikela, so it makes sense that defeating Mogh triggers that question and answer

For ppl struggling to beat mohg Phase1- Single overhead slam-dodge right don’t panic roll, Clawflame attack-if close roll forward ,if away roll backwards,get ready to second roll as he will come with a thrust attack most times Charged claw attack move /roll towards the charging hand then roll towards mohg when he swings Blood rain-run away/behind Blood splash-look at hand if open palm it will be a wide splash-roll forward;if closed palm he will splash towards you ,dodge either side Spear attacks 3 combo-dodge right,will be followed by a delayed swipe-moved towards right then roll towards light when he begins his swipe,lastly roll forward towards mohg at last swipe Spear attacks 5 move combo -just dodge on either side of sweep but prefer right Phase2-same combos as above apart from addition of flying rain 3-4 combo Combo1-flys,splashes rain-dodge forward then walk away from him he will either splash again which you should dodge left;he will then sweep attack from below dodge left then wait to see if he elevates his spear to thrust ,just roll forward ;if he keeps it lowered dodge away as he will do an explosion attack Modification of a previous attack is now when he slams his spear in to the ground it will be followed by a blast-dodge as before but then dodge away/right but away from mohg Hope it helps

If cant handle mohg how you gonna handle the dlc

The phantom liberty dlc for cyber punk can’t be reached until after the voo doo boys and no one complained about that

As someone who beat Elden Ring as my first souls like. While I did enjoy it and felt it was a very memorable experience I realized it’s not my type of game. That being said not being my type of game and saying it should change is different things. I feel it should keep doing what it’s doing. There’s obviously a lot of people who enjoy it and there’s nothing wrong with that. Not everything should be for everybody.

I'll explain it in caveman terms Mohg strong DLC bosses stronger because people want strong bosses If no beat Mohg, you got no chance to beat Mesmer

I always thought that there should have been something after Mohg. It makes a lot more sense now. Also im not sure why people are super mad at this. You can get to Mohg at lvl 5 if you really wanted to.

Lmao you mean to tell me THAT MANY people didn’t beat him??? First play through when I saw his robe I knew I was taking his drip.

It's 2009 and I just bought the Broken Steel DLC for Fallout 3 but I just learned I don't get to play it until I beat the game, what the hell man

This DLC dropping is like when new years rolls around and all the noobs fill your gym for a few weeks 😂

Fromsoft just announced a DLC for people who never got out of Limgrave, it's called "Liurnia"

You can access Mogh without fighting any other major boss (In fact, without fighting any boss in general, thanks to ER being an Open World with lots of options to get to certain parts of the map), by doing an easy questline that lets you get teleported to the place where Mogh is. There is also no Rune Level requirement, which means that I can enter the DLC with my Rune Level 1 character if I want. And lets not forget that this game lets you oneshot literally anything with a lot of builds, lets you summon both in offline and online, and gives you items that make the game easier (In Mogh's case, you literally have an item designed to make him unable to move for some seconds when you use it, you can use it 2 times and makes the boss MUCH easier. There is literally no reason to cry about how hard he is)

Playing ER + DLC for the first time must be truly an amazing experience.

Bought Elden Ring and DLC on a weekend and played the shit out of it last week. Holy its good. Im 50 hours in and i feel like i havent even explored a third of the map.

So... Its like every other Souls and Bloodborne DLC. They all started in mid to late game.

The funniest part about this is that because you have to beat Mohg to play the dlc, gaming journalists won’t be able to access it

“Gatekeeping” yeah forcing you to play the game to play more of the game that’s crazyy

You want the dlc you'll have to earned it. Beating a boss is classic progress 101

I mean, it wasn’t like that was a well kept secret or anything. Ever since the first DLC trailer dropped, Miyazaki said you needed to kill Mohg. Hell, the damn TRAILER pretty much pointed it out lol. Every From Software Soulsborne DLC required you to progress to a certain point first. Elden Ring is no exception.

Once you get to Mohgwyn palace, you've found two of the best grinding spots in the whole base game, and they are literally right next to each other. If Mohg is pounding your ass in seconds, just go farm for an hour and LEVEL VIGOR.

Gate keeping is a good thing btw. I'll never understand how protecting the thing you like from invaders that want to change it could ever be considered a bad thing. Because it isn't. Not every thing is for every person. If something's not for you it shouldn't change just because it's not for you. As the Dark Souls community says... Get good or go home.

I’m sorry but that isn’t exactly the first time that gate keeping has been a thing in a fromsoft game: Ds1: u had to beat smough and ornstein, get the silver pendant and defeat the multi tailed hydra Ds2: had 3 dlc with separate keys that u needed to defeat multiple bosses to access BB: you have to beat vicar Amelia before accessing the dlc Ds3: the ashened ariendal dlc was accessible very early but you gonna get your butt handed to u if u access it at a very low level. The ringed city dlc was accessible through defeating the final boss of the first dlc, or just before the final boss of the main game. To say that this is something new or hasn’t been done before is quite stupid

It's like you can't access post story bonus content before you beat the game once or that you'll not have the option to play highest difficulty without one playthrough.

i did beat mohg in my first run man this game was so damn great

you should stream your first elden ring playthrough, i'd love to watch that

it’s weird because most dlcs are usually end game or mid game additions that you need to get to a certain point to get to the new content. This is like common for 90% of DLC lmao

Mohg went from a secret sex criminal to Ludex Gundyr in Elden Ring😂

Part 2 of the Pokémon Scarlet and Violet dlc requires that you beat both the base game and part 1 of the dlc. Similarly, The Division 2 requires you to beat the whole thing (basically twice) before you can play the Warlords of New York dlc. I don't see how this is a problem yet the other 2 aren't.

If Kai Cenat could do it through unrelenting dedication then you have no excuse tbh.

You didn’t have to play witcher 3 to play the expansions. It let you start both expansions from the start menu. Basically it would make you a properly leveled Geralt. But your point holds. The part you are missing is they just want to be able to check out he expansions without playing so they can say something about it.

Now that's a real video game if you want to proceed you need to defeat Mohg that's not bad it encourages you to be better at the game respect

Was playing 2 days ago and accidentally stumbled upon a weird cliff path absolutely filled with exploding bleedy boys. Got curious, slowly worked my way up the cliff, killed a bunch of these bleedy boys and made my way to a fancy looking room. Boom, a Wild Mohg Appears. Called in my Mimic and doubled teamed him down within 3 minutes. I don't see why people are complaining so much when I accidentally stumbled upon the DLC entrance lol.

Wow a skill check before you can advance through a story. A story prolly more difficult then the main story. Why would we ever need a skill check for that! This is a really good system if you have harder and harder dlc. Believe it or not but this was really common in the 90/2K years and i welcome it back!

i mean legend of zelda breath of the wild had an expansion where you had to get the master sword first. no one complained

DS1 asked you to beat the most difficult boss in the game in order to access it nobody complained strange 🤔

Can you imagine the universe where they did just let you jump straight into the DLC? These same people would be complaining about how they dont understand who any of the characters are

Did you ever manage to get that crate off the conveyer belt? 😂

Fallout nv and 4 dose same thing but I here no one complaying about those games

Mohg's doorway is full of summoning signs right now. It pretty much is a guaranteed get in now.

Imagine being so bad at video games that you can't even beat Mohg..... Makes me glad I grew up playing the NES where literally every game was brutally difficult. They make Dark Souls games look easy.

Call in a sorcery user. They gonna Kamehameha Mohg like he's nothing.

Also theres so many games that require some degree of completion to access DLC. Witcher 3 one of my most beloved videos games of all time requires you to get REALLY far in the story and lvl in order to get to "hearts of stone" and "blood & whine" DLC's Edit: literally finished writing this before seeing you brought this up in your video lol

Why should you have to fight Mohg to access the land of Shadow? It’s not like you have to kill Godrick to access Liurnia, or kill Morgott to access MOTG, or Fire Giant to access Farem Azula, or Radahn to access Nokstella, or Malikith to access the final boss. Am I missing any?

there’s a quest-line from the first NPC you meet, he can get you there without finishing half of the game

Another Crabs Treasure is not getting enough love or exposure! I know you don’t do game reviews but you should consider it for this one. I love it. It feels like you’re playing a movie that Pixar used to make! It’s brilliant.

elden ring is so good i beat it twice

The only way I would consider it gatekeeping in anyway is they expected you to beat EVERY boss. From the final boss, to every tomb and cave boss, to every hidden boss like Malenia and Placidusax, and even bosses you can miss like the Lichdragon (I just found out you can miss him if you don't do Fia's questline before burning the tree)

Fyi, in witcher you have the option to start at a higher level to play the dlc, but it makes sense in witcher because it takes allot of time to get to dlc appropriate levels

Git Gud

I love ER and have played it through like 7 times now doing damn near every stat build, the fact they cant beat mohg when there’s a million guides for everything is a MASSIVE skill issue

Here's a reminder that the Final Fantasy 16 dlcs couldn't be accessed until right before the final story quest. And yes, those were PEAK content for the game. Also, bc this comment is being posted 4 days after the dlc dropped and I've played through some of it, this new dlc is also really really damn good

I am glad I had to beat mogh and not Malenia for the dlc. not because of the difficult of the fight, but the difficulty of getting there. currently I can just spawn in, crush stormveil, dick around with ranni, teleport hop over to radahn and bully him, that finish varre's quest which just involves blasting though 3 invasion fingers and then murdering the girl at the entrance to the weeping peninsula. ofc I usually prep a bit more for the actual mogh fight but getting a +10 somber weapon is pretty easy, as well as killing the piss ghost for the last talisman pouch.

Cyberpunk did the same thing

I love demons souls. It needs to come to PC

Most people that have played elden ring and cried about it twitter, probably tried to fight Varre and locked themselves out of Mohgwyn's Palace until late-game.

The Witcher 3 example is not great for your argument, you can literally choose to start the game with a massively leveled up Gerralt if you want when you install the dlc.

So, if I'm remembering correctly, which I know I am, don't you have to fight your way through the Cavern of Remembrance to access the Data Battles in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix? Where is the issue? Games have done this for long time, why is it now that it's Elden Ring, it's suddenly a problem?

That God of War footage was intensely frustrating....

If they can't beat Mohg, they have no chance in the dlc that shits brutal. It's a fantastic dlc though.

I’ll be at the summoning pool near Mohg, waiting to help fellow tarnished beat him. I can’t wait to put all this practice to use.

I make fun of Elden Ring's endgame a lot but even I wouldn't go after Mohg. He's one of the better bosses in the entire thing.

.....if you couldn't make it past Mohg, I don't even know why you'd spend money on this DLC.

Tips for beating mohg quickly and easily 1: get a frost weapon like Zamor curved sword or helphens steeple and keep procing frost for massive damage, dont use bleed weapons cause he get a damage buff with every bleed proc and he is already dealing a ton of damage without it 2 : focus on posture break cause they will delay nihil phase 3 : get purifying crystal tear it will save you a lot

There is a quest early in the game that lets you transport to Mohg level.

You already know the game journo's are mad cause they can't get easy access

I had to look up how to get access to the DLC. I am on NG+ and never invaded another player and it forced it to use the rest of the game mechanics before trying the DLC. I literally discovered another area (I looked nothing up before this). I have 296 hours in and realized I have no idea how big the original map was. This game is perfect. The devs are on another level. it took me like 20 times to beat Mohg. I hadn’t played through game in awhile. Beating Mohg is actually a cleaver way to prepare the player for the DLC.

Imagine you buy one of those character expansion packs for a board game where it comes with just a mini figure and a couple cards and people complain that you need the base game to play with that character

The funniest thing to me is that you can literally fulfill all of the requirements like 2 hours in if you want to. Collect the medallions, go to Altus, go back to Redmane Castle, defeat Radahn (the NPCs can solo him), the levels are enough to easily beat Godrick. After that just do Varres quest, and kill Mohg with the enemy unload glitch. Id highly advise against it but its easily possible.

It would have been hilarious if you had to kill Malenia first.

Mogh's shackle, the tear that protects you from Nihil, spirit summons (mainly the black knife assassin because she can kill him before second phase starts), comet azur setup,ect.

How do they expect to progress through the dlc if you can’t even pass the litmus test to enter the dlc?

I didn’t even realize Mohg was such a filter. I found portal, entered strange land of blood, slapped Mohg up after a handful of tries and went on. Come to think of it, majority of players were probably filtered out back at Margit & Godrick maybe? Shame because beating them felt like a rite of passage.

They act like the is the first time fromsoft has made a dlc requiring you to do stuff to get into it

If you're a student of the roomba school of game exploration, get ready to _easily_ spend 200+ hours on your first playthrough of Elden Ring + Shadow of the Erdtree 😛 The exploration in this game felt _so_ good! My only issue is that creating every single build that sounds good in my head and playing through the whole game with it would take a few thousand hours, which I don't have 😭

I had issues bearing Mohg my first time round too, but with a decently upgraded Malakith's Black Blade he's a breeze

Instant gratification has destroyed the human race

Imagine if people had complained about the dawnguard and dragonborn expansions for Skyrim having requirements to access them. 😂

Good luck on your first proper elden ring journey. Get ready to explore every nook and cranny because im still finding stuff i never found before. Mostly with the help of guides though for anything i originally missed

I was on my 5th playthrough after getting platinum and didn't kill Mog or really step foot underground. It took me about 15 minutes total with google to beat Mohg.

Fun fact: when DS3 was out it’s not as popular yet. We didn’t see many journalists or game designers/programmers bitching about it. It’s just pure jealousy and trying to provoke conflicts between gamers. 🤦🏻‍♂️