Elden Ring Lore - Godwyn The Golden Sun 

I really like this interpretation! Particularly fitting considering Godrick's feelings of insecurity regarding his heritage and him taking the title of "the Golden" once Godwyn was killed, it makes sense that he would desperately seek to resemble Godwyn in some form.

That axe Godrick wields belongs to Godwyn, but you didn't hear that from me.

@@The_Crimson_ShogunI’ve never thought of that.

That would make a lot of sense. Not much else seems to connect the two, and the basement seems like its been abandoned for a long time

Hell yeah dude, that sounds like a great explanation to me​@@thomasdwalker9696

Same

Thankfully if we are being technical they don’t share relation 😭

@@michaelblevins1651 that's what GRRM said lol

@@michaelblevins1651 depends on just how similar radagon and Marika truly were

Stole his wife 😂

forreal

💯💯💯 Sakuna would be jealous

Adding all the seasoning

Maybe in the dlc The reason Malenia went to caelid to fight Radan was to resume the motion of the stars. Miquella believed that his soul and body could be reunited through a ritual, however for the ritual they needed an eclipse.

@@strayy1554 The Eclipse may happen or it may not. Supposedly it could help restore him in some way.

If the DLC allows us to help Miquella, he may be strong enough afterwards to finally help Godwyn

@@SoldierOfGodwyn Assuming that's what the eclipse is really for. It may be a form of manipulation due to the possibility of Miquella having hidden motives.

​@@ibooferSo not only it's incest, it is gay incest Mohg demands an apology for being the sole person called out

Brandon, the builder?

most likely because GRRM is also behind Elden Rings lore which is why I love it so much because ASOIAF are def my favorite books

I'm almost certain that there is a mistake in the story because godwyns body should still be alive

@@joshuawilson9005godwyns body is still alive but I think his soul is dead so he’s just this mold type of thing that’s alive but isn’t really conscious.

The closest we'd get to seeing Godwyn in the DLC is when we'd have to fight his living parasyte of a body to hopefully grant him the death he deserves. I would be so down for such a fight

That's how we try to approach the lore. Cut the fluff, give the story

in human form

Yes, I’m fairly certain that Godwyn was in human form at the time.

So that means ranni the bitch I mean witch is ur least favorite

I second this! Adding to your statement, Godwyn was also the most logical target for Ranni and Rykard's aims of toppling the Golden Order considering he was possibly the most powerful demigod politically (and potentially personally as well), so his death would inevitably cause a crisis. Regarding the succession of Gods and Lords... yeah the subject is kinda vague considering Marika was immortal. However, it could be that, being an Empyrean of human (Numen) origin, Marika knew her mind wouldn't be able to handle being a god forever, so she started cultivating a succession of sorts in private and only publicly was known as "the Eternal". This falls squarely into speculation though.

The game says that more demigods died in the Night of the Black Knives. Godwyn (and Ranni) was just the first. So she must have had other potential targets. Heck, she could have had Godrick taken out.

@@Soapsim I think Ranni merely provided the assassins the means to do something they were going to do anyway and were not following "orders", likely not even being told of what she truly intended when they slew Godwyn. The other demigods could have been victims of the assassins' choosing rather than Ranni's (who already got what she wanted out of Godwyn). To add to this, they clearly are not on Ranni's side by the time of the game.

Burn the blue witch and you avenge him fully

Messmer?

if you mean godwyn i think he's born of the dew of the erdtree, in game says he was born from the golden boughs, i think its how the albernurics are doing it with a birthing droplet, it says its dew, and celetital dew is what the nox made, its also silver, i think marika has/had a silver counter part, probably the gloam eye queen, i think miquella and ranni are opposites as well

Thank you! We can dream haha

My thoughts are along the same lines. It's said Ranni stole destined death, I believe Marika allowed it to happen on purpose. Something along the lines of opening the door to her bedchamber where Maliketh slept.

Miquella is doing so in the land of shadow, piece by piece. We don't quite know how he's doing it.

My theory is Godwyn might end up being the Slave Knight Gael of Shadow of the Erdtree. Not the main villain, but the final boss at the end after you've beaten Messmer and potentially Miquella if he ended up going full blown Griffith.

Potentially Renallas

Isn't Renalla Ranni's mother? So she can't be a sister, perhaps the third sister is in the DLC

@@2JOfficial Renna isn't her sister either, she's most likely her grandmother. The term sister here is likely being used in the way a witch coven would refer to each other as sisters

I think we know who it is now

@@Galamoth06 spoilers ;)

Hmmm..

Also thanks for the great video

Thank you!

But Miquella refers to him as a brother. Also that's a little odd given he, Godwyn, is the first son of Godfrey and Marika

@@ghastlyanarchy1720 Its not a very fleshed out theory, i just find it weird that Miquella has golden hair. Miquella might not be aware of his parentage, and even if he were, it would be a secret too taboo to voice out in public. Either way Godwyn would also be his brother. It would also paralel Cersei and Jamies relationship from G.o.T in which Cerseis childrens golden hair plays a big role in showcasing their real father.

@@teddyhh9947 that's fair. I see it as a much simpler thing, specifically for Miquella and Melania, Melania has the red hair of Radagon and she's a fighter, whereas Miquella has the blonde hair of Marika and is more passive and caring. But when considering all the other kids and their hairs it doesn't fit well. Since Ranni isn't a fighter but has the red hair and all the others from Godfrey and Marika have blonde hair and are fighters.

Its also good to know what Marika and Godwyn represents. Marika represents mother earth who is mother to all beings, both good and evil. Godwyn represents the next sun to be, who will replace the previous sun when time is right. The communion of the sun and mother earth is what allows life to flourish.

@@teddyhh9947 life may flourish but there is no end, without death is life truly appreciated in this world? But in reality I just see him as more of a pillar, an example of how one should be while in the position he was born in. Whereas Marika is a touch more deluded with her desires having removed death from the elden ring so no one really dies, why not have natural death anymore? Why try and break the elden ring even more, surely that'll send the lands between into even more war than it has already seen. And having done it, war breaks out amongst the children. What good is a "mother earth" when she really doesn't do much good at all? Marika isn't really a mother to all as there was plenty life in the lands between before her time as Queen Eternal.

Only if Godfrey isn't their father! Let's see what we learn from the DLC

Rogier says that NotBK happened long before the Shattering...immediately proceeds to say that it became the catalyst and the Elden Ring was shattered shortly after _"It happened during the Golden Age of the Erdtree, long before the shattering of the Elden Ring. Someone stole a fragment of the Rune of Death from Maliketh, the Black Blade. And on a bitter night, murdered Godwyn the Golden. That was the first recorded death of a demigod in all history. And it became the catalyst. Soon, the Elden Ring was smashed, and thus sprang forth the war known as the Shattering."_ - Sorcerer Rogier[About the corpse under Stormveil] I don't know what's up with this dialogue. Says that NotBK was long before the shattering of ER, then nearly immediately says that ER was smashed soon after it. Wonky translation, maybe?I don't know. As for Corhyn...honestly, initially I thought it was supposed to show that Corhyn doesn't knows the teachings of his own religion, as not that uncommon with people like him. But he says the same heresy line about every prayerbook except Golden Order Principia...including the Two Fingers' and Assassin prayerbooks. Because of it I lean towards thinking that it's just an oversight on Fromsoft's part.

Couple of things. The description of death lightning does not say Fortissax saw Godwyn cast this lightning, it was it was "wielded by Godwyn, who befriended Fortissax," which does not imply when he wielded it. As far as Marika asking Hewg to craft a weapon to kill a god, that's pretty heavily implied to be the Elden Beast that she wanted dead.

How can someone who is effectively dead wield any incantation? I can't get over that. He either had it in life or the place where Fortisax entered has a living Godwyn. I'm not so sure that Marika intended to kill the elden beast as much as she intended to protect her standing. One does not simply become a God to kill yourself. That had to happen in a very specific time frame. Blacksmith has no idea how long he's been there smithing and doesn't know the state of Marika. We can infer she meant for us to kill her but speculation is the flavor of the week; I'm just doing my part Edit: Lightning takes 'faith' to cast. Very interesting 👌

@@Vaelithe he definitely had it in life. I believe it wasn't always death lightning. We receive the incantation at a time where it's already been tainted by death. Basically it's original form doesn't exist anymore because the only 2 people to ever wield it are now tainted by death.

@square-table-gaming that's fair. I just respec'd into a 'King Godwyn, the Golden Death' build and it really got my gears turning about him having a draconic patron. I can't wait to meet him. I'm not sure everything in the lore is the truth Edit: perhaps his Incantation looked more like a yellow version of the aoe ancient dragon lightning in life? I could go for that since the spell is missing. None of the other lightning spells with Godwyns name are death infused its just that one specifically

Check out our video on the dlc trailer, I have some thoughts on the GEQ

Unfortunately Miyazaki has confirmed no new endings

@@square-table-gaming that same dude "confirmed" Elden ring would take 30 hrs to complete and he said to delibritly withhold information to entice player imagination. I infer the dude is not going to spoil something as big as new endings.