When God says he created everything alone 🤷 Isaiah 44:24 NIV [24] “This is what the Lord says- your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the Lord, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,
Genesis 1:26 KJV - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
@LegiondaryBro Christianity and English keep mistranslating so much, and then they totally misunderstand what they mistranslated and corrupted. The One True Creator G_d was talking to the multitudes of Angels that The One True Creator G_d had already created.
@@terryulmer969 You were the one who mistranslated the verse Gen 1:26. You said, "The One True Creator G_d *was talking to the multitudes of Angels that The One True Creator G_d had already created."* That is false. Gen 1:26 "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;.." The word "Let us " is the first person plural imperative. It means to include ourselves . If ourselves include angels, it means angels also make man. Even if you are talking to angels, it means the speaker wants to includes angels as a participants for making man. When God is suggesting that you and someone else should do something you say 'let us'. If God does not want to include angels as participants God will say "Let me" Not "Let us". Ok? Please don't try to distort the verse. Can Angels make man?
@@hegagi839angels can not make men, and g-d was not referring to the trinity in Gen 1 verse 26. He was talking to the the divine court. Which is common in history when a king or queen wanted to make a decree. While they have absolute rule they tended to use plural of majesty. So most of the time, they would say We decree, we proclaim, hear us. Also g-d uses the term “us” again in Isaiah 6 verse 8. “ Then I heard the voice of the sovereign saying, “whom shall I send? who would go for US?” And I said here I am, send me. So it wasn’t the first time g-d used the plural of majesty
@@ElliutN Agreed 👍. I am a former Lutheran Missouri Synod member. The hypocrisy corruption is so rampant that they even violated and betrayed their oath and own Core Principles of Belief.
Noah laws will not help you. If you don't obey and observe the laws in the Torah you are in big trouble, Christians and the Islamists have tried to cancel out the Jews, the Jewish people are the only Eternal nation.When I read Torah it tells me that all must convert to Judaism,
@@scruffyscrubs5468 There is NO laws of Noahide in the Bible except one. They were invented by men and incorporate them in the Talmud and Tosefta. They couldn't insert them in the Bible because it is prohibited.
Why is Abraham known as a Father to a multitude? The voice that Abraham hears is this own voice within... that I Abraham will make you, my God, known to many men. Through Abrahams roots come two branches that will be as numerous as the stars... 3.8bn and counting follow Abrahams GOD. Why do you see Abraham as a Father? The same man who was told he would have a child, so sleeps with hagar, then told a second time and laughs so much, he falls to knees face flat on the floor questioning what God can do. For this understanding, having no faith in what GOD can do, his child is named after Abrahams faith in GOD. GOD asked him to bring the one who laughed, and Abraham took his son! He envisions himself murdering him, then lied to him about another lamb to be slaughtered! Before Abraham was a Father to you, I am that image he created, standing in front you. He saw the day and was glad. They then carry out the same as Abraham saw, killing an innocent lamb. He reaped, what he sowed... I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it, what was already created in the beginning, in the mind of Abraham your father, not mine.
Oh, you let this one out for the public. How nice. I like Mr."Slow Ride", he's so cute. thank you William. (Rabbi's don't understand the Torah...omgosh) sigh that's chutzpah. You should use that word, chutzpah.
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@@lawnmowermanTX Dear All to remind you When President Trump took office He immediately qualified the kitchen in the White House according to the rules of kosher as detailed in the Torah and many other writings Another important thing... the president almost immediately went to Jerusalem and prayed at the Western Wall In these actions on the religious level, he bought himself world fame in the collective Jewish memory and close personal protection and assistance from the biblical God
@@adam9997100 I didn’t know about the Kosher Kitchen at the White House, but the Abraham Accords were a huge Mess. Yet G-d still loves Israel 🇮🇱 and G-d Taught and Promised Avraham the importance of Genesis 12:3. G-d protected Trump from an Assassin’s bullet. The Protector of Israel never slumbers. Am Yisrael Chai. My first name is a Jewish name. “Whom is Like Unto G-d?” Being kicked out of many Christian churches and Lashon Hara’d by the same church backstabbers, I appeal to the Heavenly Tribunal for justice, redemption and Orthodox Judaism Conversion. I’m in Texas, yet in exile.. There’s no Orthodox Jewish community as I’m in severe financial ruin and poverty as a slave to the State of Texas. 😿😿😿😿🖖🖖🖖🖖❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹.
@@adam9997100 Dear G-d, please help me understand fluently Hebrew, and Middle Eastern languages and CODEX dialects. I feel stupid not knowing or comprehending Aramaic, Ivrit Hebrew and Arab-Muslim languages.. Shalom y’all. 💔💔💔💔💔😿😿😿😿😿😿🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖😓😓😓😓😓😓
Here’s a thought: Gen.1:1 In the beginning God John 1:1 In the beginning was the “WORD” Gen.1:3- 6- 9- 11- 14- 20- 26- 29 “AND GOD SAID…” (LOGOS): A thought, an idea, a concept, a plan: Put into words- spoken or written. Creating or creation: John 1:14 And the WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us… 5:39 Search the scriptures (study)… and they (the written word) are they which testify of me. (Or tell regarding who and what I represent) LOGOS!
There is a slight difference in Torahs between the Stalengrad text in Isaiah 7:14. ImanuW'eL is in two separate words separate by a Hyphen. IMaNuW - 'eL
57:48 but a Christian could say, He meant by a person say “Jesus is lord” or something similar. Then their sins would be forgiven…. Is that how Christianity works ? By just saying Jesus is god then your in ?
That is a huge conundrum within that religion lol. One will say yes while another will say no. I always quote Isaiah 55:7 where Jebus is not mentioned and that passage makes clear to any Jew what is required.
The problem is that both theists and atheists alike are under the assumption that the bible (KJV) teaches that this earth is God's first and only rodeo. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made >THAT WAS MADE
JC is not a savior - see Isa. 43:10-11 - there is no trinity, and HaShem is the only savior. As for being "outside of time", think about how "time" is measured; time is a product of life on earth; days are determined by the rotation of earth, years are determined by the earth's orbit around the sun; months are determined by the lunar cycle; if you were able to go out in space and sit there observing everything, what "time" would you be subject to? days, months, years? according to what? if you lived on Pluto, that would all be totally different. As soon as you leave earth, you enter eternity because there is no time reference. God actually CAN create himself; you're thinking too small. We only have one dimension of time, and it's linear. If God had two time dimensions, he would live in a time plane, and if he had three time dimensions, He would live in a time sphere. If he lived in a time sphere, He could go back in time before He existed and create Himself. Steven Hawking proved Mathematically that there has to be at least 11 dimensions; we only experience 4 of them: length, width, height, and time. Be careful not to put God in a box.
Let's see. Learning by eating from a tree. An ark that saved all the animals. The parting of the red sea. 1.5 - 3 million people wandering in a desert for forty years following column of smoke and a pillar of fire. Walls falling with a shout. A talking donkey. That is some epic story telling. Adam wields the fiery sword on the day of vengeance as judgment, setting up the abomination of desolation in himself, as the Temple without one stone left standing upon another, being made to be sin, becoming a worm - thus fulfilling the law. Guess who the snake is. I've decided to put an end to all mortals on earth Gn 6:13. The birds of the air and all the great beasts will have a great feast at the wedding of the Lamb. The oceans will be drained and the waters placed above the dome of the sky. No longer will the sun beat down and scorch you. No longer will there be hurricanes and tornadoes. The waters will refract the rays of light and there will no longer be night. Looking forward, we will all speak the same language. What do you see? A flood story? The Tower of Babel? By all accounts, you should all be nothing more than pillars of salt. Ok. Let's get started. Take out your textbooks on the crucifixion as imagery and prophecy. Let me know when you are ready.
I heard yesterday, that the first verse in tenak was mistranslated. It should read, In the beginning, the father created the elohim and heavens and earth.
It doesn’t. It should be “when God began to create heaven and earth.” That is all of verse one says. There are other thoughts out there but the plain wording is what I wrote out. If it said what you said, it would say adoni began to create Elohim with heaven and earth in the Hebrew, but it doesn’t. People start learning basic Kabbalah and they start confusing people when they don’t even grasp it themselves.
You guys should invite Derek Lambert, Aron Ra or Matt Dillahunty even Anton Lavey, if he was still alive, to your channel. After all, you all share the same ideas/ concepts about Jesus. Isn't that interesting?
I think Aron Ra is does not even think Jesus existed, and Matt Dilihunty is consider that view possible. These guys don't say that. Who knows what Anton Lavey thought, who cares.
@@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV he seems to be saying they are mythicists. I wish people would just put up solid arguments instead of these vague insinuations. Hitler was a vegetarian and he liked dogs. Isn’t that interesting? Not really.
You will get an opportunity to tell Jesus to his face when you are on your knees before Him as your judge at the last judgement. You will be in such a state of fear.when you realize that Jesus is the Son of God and the God that will judge you and all men.
You show you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the Living God, not on tablets of Stone bit on tablets of human hearts 2 Corinthians 3:3
You gonna be waiting a lot longer. Imagine that people 500 years ago said this same thing. 1000 years ago. You will always be waiting and never understanding and doing.
@@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV Jesus dead and rose from the dead 31 ad so thats 1,993 years ago so this is the year Jesus is going to take his believers and then there is 7 years of tribulations on earth then Jesus comes back to be king in the millennial rain
Word (logos: cause reason plan) Everything created has a beginning that starts in the mind... GOD "said".... to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to command, to promise, to intend. Where was jesus in the beginning (in genesis) In the mind of Abraham.... His thoughts of murdering his own child (lamb of Abraham), then lying to Isaac as to what lamb whould be supplied, is the same who was with GOD, and was GOD..... Abraham then becomes a father to a multitude, who's numbers are like the stars, approximately 3.8bn Before Abraham was a father to you, I am he, whom your father saw may day and was glad to not to have killed an innocent child.... The tables have been turned onto them, and yet they still do what Abraham chose to do, in the beginning. GOD turns darkness into light, so that you shall see yourselves, in the light of who I Am.
Zachariah 12:8 He who is feeble on that day will be like Da' Vid and Da'Vids House will be Like God like Yahweh Angel before them JAH House of Elohim-YHVH. Root of Da' Vid
Sure because you all have rejected your own theology of the TWO Powers in Heaven israelite theology of the 2nd temple period. This theology is Biblical Judaism and it was the concept of TWO persons of YHWH. These two persons of YHWH R in Genesis 19:24. The Invisible YHWH ( the Father) and the Visible YHWH ( Pre-incarnate Jesus). Both in Genesis 19:24 and this Visible YHWH, along with 2 angels visited Abraham and Sarah in Visible forms and even ate the food prepared by Sarah. The Visible YHWH that Abraham bargained with to NOT destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
LIAR! The MESSIAH is same GOD! Same ANGEL OF THE LORD! same Holy MIKHAEL! And when Holy MIKHAEL STANDS: Holy books will be opened...Judgement and world ends! DANIEL 12:1 Blessed and Glorious is God of ISRAEL for hiding YOURSELF! MESSIAH Our LORD JESUS CHRIST! ISAIAH 45:15
You use the word god without knowing its roots or meaning, it's an old English word first used in the 6th century derived from the proto Germanic word gudan meaning to invoke, to call upon a higher power, taken from the Christian Codex Argenteus 4th century. The word for power in Hebrew is El Elohim the plural El Elyon means most high power. We were all at the beginning of creation 6 protons 6 electrons 6 neutrons making carbon-12 the make up of man and the number of the beast cause it's the building blocks of all life, every element in you was there at the moment of creation the water in our bodies is in a crystalline structure that creates fractal energy discovered in the trans-universal void otherwise known as dark energy, El Elyon in everything, everything in El Elyon. So when Isho, Iesu, Iesus, Yeshua, Jesus stated he was with the creator at the beginning he wasn't lying, you got told he was the only son of El Elyon but, is it not said ye are all little Elohim, children of El Elyon, made in The creators likeness. You are fractal pieces of the whole.
And to state Israel has changed the Torah, to prove that youd have to have copy of Torah, before the change. No such sefer exists. This is exactly what islam tries...false claims withiut any evidence of any kind.
God could come as a human is all in the Bible. No twisting of words to change it to angels to suit one’s rhetoric. Gen 18:1 “And HaShem (יְהוָ֔ה) *appeared* unto him(Abraham) by the terebinths of Mamre…..” According to dictionary “to appear” means “to come into sight; become visible or noticeable” This means Hashem or Yahweh could be seen by Abraham. Hence, it is not a revelation or vision. Also; Gen 18:22-23 “And the men turned from thence, and went toward Sodom; but Abraham stood yet before HaShem (יְהוָ֔ה). 23 And Abraham drew near,…” This means that Yahweh had physically appearing to Abraham on earth and Abraham came nearer. Gen 19:27 says Abraham even went back to the place where he stood before Hashem. This confirmed that place was real and on earth. Was Abraham able to see God as no one had seen God and lived Exo 33:20? Yes, only if God appeared as a human. Gen 18:22-23 (see above) says the men left *BUT* Abraham stood before Hashem. It didn’t say how many left. It was mentioned that two of the 3 men went to Sodom in Gen 19:1. Notice the word “ *BUT* ”. It means one of the men stayed behind. Who is the 3rd man? It means the 3rd man was Yahweh or Hashem. Since Yahweh first appeared to Abraham visually and physically(Gen 18:1) and no one else was beside them, the 3rd person is of course Yahweh. The name of Yahweh was mentioned several; times in Gen 18:1, Gen 8:13-14, Gen 18:17,19 The Bible says “Do not add or subtract from to the word which I command you, (Deu 4:2). So let’s not try to change Yahweh or Hashem to angel when there was none.
Where does it say that Hashem has ever become a man, especially when God Himself said He's not a man. Numbers 23:29; 1 Samuel 15:29; Malachi 3:6; Hosea 11:9; Job 9:32; ****Jeremiah 17:5; Psalm 246:3; Isaiah 55:11; Psalm 89: 35-36; Psalm 89:35-36. Hashem doesn't have to come as a man, He can use day visions, and night visions, and messengers rather it be Angels or prophets. The only person that even got close to seeing Hashem is Moses and he's only one that in an indirect way God spoke to Moses face to face.
They tell you to start in new testament when studying and that you do not have to read the old at all because they claim those laws are no longer vailed. Even tho god said otherwise in deuteronomy 4:2. Do not add or take away from his laws. Christian church and jesus does just that.
@@billieackley6280 Read all the verses you cited in context by reading the whole verse or reading the verses before and after it. Num 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent…” Many of the verses is not saying God is not literally a man although he is. If you think that the verse is saying God is a spirit then Num 23:19 is saying “God is a spirit that He should lie…” . Does this verse now sound invalid? Since man is also a human, then Num23;19 says , “God is not a human that He should lie…” Does this verse mean that? Not a is unlike So Num 23:19 God is unlike man that He should lie… When God say he doesn't change, it means he does NOT recind his promises You said, “Hashem doesn't have to come as a man, He can use day visions, and night visions, and messengers rather it be Angels or prophets.” I prove to you that it is not a vision but first *which verse in Gen 18 say that hashem came in a vision?* Please don’t make up story where there is no vision. Gen 18:1 says Hashem appeared. In Gen18:1.18:13-14, 18:17 and 18:19 says Hashem, not angels. Gen 18:1 “And HaShem (יְהוָ֔ה) appeared unto him(Abraham) by the terebinths of Mamre…..” Didn’t I say “According to dictionary “to appear” means “to come into sight; become visible or noticeable” This means Hashem or Yahweh could be seen by Abraham. Hence, it is not a revelation or vision. “ Didn’t you read what I said earlier and you couldn’t debunk it.: Gen 18:22-23 “And the men turned from thence, and went toward Sodom; but Abraham stood yet before HaShem (יְהוָ֔ה). 23 And Abraham drew near,…” This means that Yahweh had physically appearing to Abraham on earth and Abraham came nearer. Gen 19:27 says Abraham even went back to the place where he stood before Hashem. *This confirmed that place was real and on earth.Therefore it is not a vision.* It is real. Was Abraham able to see God as no one had seen God and lived Exo 33:20? Yes, only if God appeared as a human.
Read the New covenant then you may be able to comment. FYI one of your own had a revelation from God that Messiach. Yeshua was the one Hashem was talking to in Genesis 1:26 and now knows Yeshua spiritually. You are only translating intellectually when you need to know spiritually what you are talking about. However if you do not truly know your God but only think you do like the Pharisees of course you are just as uninformed and blind as they were.
So what about Isaiah’s vision in Isaiah 6? Isaiah was in heaven in his vision, surrounded by divine beings. After Isaiah Is purified, the Lord comes and says, who shall go for US? It seems like G-d was addressing the divine court because Isaiah volunteered and said I would go. If G-d was talking to the “trinity” why would Isaiah volunteer to go
Any person can forgive another. You can be atheist and still forgive easy. We can forgive because we are created in the HaShem's image. Forgiveness is in God's DNA (if I can put it like that) Christianity teach. When humans die the default is hell for all humans. They believe that all power was Given to Satan. That the earth and all in it including death belongs to Satan. The God had to go get the power back for death then he came and died on the cross.
For the Law was given by Moses but Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ John 1:17 No man hath seen God at anytime, the only begotten Son, which is in the Bosom of the Father that declared him John 1:18 JAH House of Elohim-YHVH KJV
Blasphemy of the Spirit is not an argument It is a testimony and protection given to the Anointed Messenger Christ sends Alpha Omega Like an officer in protective motion
This was Origin's heresy. The Hebrew has God in the plural tense in Genesis even in the Meseretic. Also the Hebrew has the Alpha Tal (alpha omega in Greek) right next to God. So even the Hebrew mentions the Son specifically in the first line of Genesis prior to the creation and a participant in the creation.
So, God had not participant in creation? Was it angels? No? Then, why say, "Let us make man in our image" Who is the this? Angels? Why make man as plurality male and female? If man is a plurality of two, and man is in God's image, then God is also like a plurality of two: husband and wife; male and female; and they can have offspring!
The alef-tav, the first and last letter of the alphabet (corresponding to the alpha and omega in Greek), i.e. the untranslatable word 'את', precedes every accusative object and is simply a grammatical construction that appears at every turn. And your Hebrew teacher will be annoyed if you forget it. I stub my toe -> אני מכה את הבוהן שלי What does my toe have to do with Jesus?
@@valanicevondaventry1150 My apologizes. You may be right. For centuries after the dispersion much of the knowledge of Hebrew was lost or at least degraded. Recently scholars have improved our knowledge of Hebrew by studying each word and phrase in it's context. The difficulty can be illustrated by examining the work of the rabbis who translated the Hebrew into Greek Septuagint. How much more so for us 23 centuries later. One only has to look at the changes in English just over the last 1000 years to see the problems. All languages evolve by usage including Hebrew. I'm an amateur studying Hebrew out of textbooks alone. Of course your toe has nothing to do with Jesus except that Jesus loves us all, even those who have difficulty accepting Him. After all He come to the Jews first before He came to the Gentiles and Samaritans. Jesus loves everyone even those who hate Him.
What are the hosts calling the beginning (in the marquee statement)? The beginning of time (before Gen 1:1)? The beginning of Creation? Between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2? When? If it can be agreed for argument's sake that "the beginning", isn't the beginning of time, but rather, it is the time immediately prior to the 7 days of the forming of the world of this current age (Gen 1:3), I would ask my friends on the forum, what in Jewish tradition are the 7 things God created before Gen 1:2? I'm looking for one thing specifically in the 7 listed...hint; It's not Jesus, but it did rest upon Jesus. Is this specific thing, not considered to be part of the "e"olhim envelope? If it is, then it has been w/ God since before creation....and it is thought to be instrumental in the formation of this world.
Yes, JESUS WAS in the BEGINNING with G-d. John Baptist Reveals this 3 TIMES in John 1:15, 27,& 30. JESUS Himself AGREES with John Baptists testimony in John 5:33. JESUS Himself confirms this in John 6:62, 8:58, & 17:5. The Apostle John AGREES in John 1:2 & 1st John 1:2. And Paul AGREES in Colossians 1:17. DEAL WITH IT !!
@@AxilRod72- God says in your "own" Tanach, "at the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses every matter shall be established" (Deuteronomy 19:15). I listed 4 witnesses, when only 2 are required, and I will also add 1 more witness to make 5 from your own Torah, Micah 5:2. So you can DEAL WITH IT SOME MORE !!
All of your suggestions was an attempt by the Church and Paul of Tarsus to override Torah, and it turned out to be a failure overwhelmingly. You cannot override TaNaKh using a Greek manuscript written 1,300 years after Torah and 700 years after the Book of Isaiah. Now go back and read Deuteronomy 4:1-2 and Deuteronomy 12:32 carefully.
@@timothya.olmeda7299 If you "personally" had the very "Witness" of God Himself BY HIS SPIRIT, that the Torah is the Word of God, your post would be "valid", but since your own God says that you do NOT KNOW WHO HE IS yet, (isaiah 1;3) (Jeremiah 31:34), and that you have NEVER heard His Voice before, (Exodus 20:19), then your post is simply your "belief" or "opinion", or at best "made up" in your own corrupt mind.
You guys misunderstood Romans 10. Then you changed the topic to modern Christianity. Why not sticking with understanding Romans 10 apart from your old view of modern Christianity?
@journeylife7491- The word "Christianity", (which means absolutely nothing), is their "smokescreen" that they inaccurately use instead of using the phrase "Jesus and His Words", which makes ALL the difference in the world.
Right. Jesus was NOT in the beginning. Jesus is BEFORE the "beginning" with GOD. As God HAS no "beginning". SEMPITAERNE DEUS (not CO_AETERNE DEUS) Example: If at that time Jesus walked among mankind, you encounter Jesus in the street and you walk by. you would be be TERRIFIED to death, because you had seen God! Why? God has no age! Example: Gospel John 18,4 The soldiers want to arrest Jesus. Who are you? It is I aye -asher-aye. His self-identification, recorded in the prior verse, literally knocks these men to the ground. It is the name of God. of the burning thorn-bush. // Another: Truly truly I say to you; BEFORE Abraham was, I AM ! || I have many Jewish friends, and know Rebbes; but nobody could walk on water, wake up, decomposed bodies, stop the wind, multiply matter (food), pass through walls instead the door, command fish, and resurrect, plus go to heaven, without carriage. || I read the Tanach, but you must also read the New Testament! Otherwise you don't know what you are talking about, guys! I am convinced that you are only scary you would discover Jesus was the Lord visiting us: Emanu-EL. || To resolve the problem fo the Jews, your Messiah must also be a King, then be more than a prophet. and to be with God the jewish Meshiach must come from God. On the long run you will understand, that God is king again, like before the Monarchy. Remember in the Tanach/OT? God said, his people also want to have a "visible" God like the surrounding countries! God permitted the Hebrews have a visible king. With the failure of the Monarchy, God wanted to teach the Hebrews a lesson: accept an (on earth) invisible King again! I am MTh & BacPhil greetings / PS. Do you know what Christ want to give us? Pie Jesu, Pie Jesu, Pie Jesu, Pie Jesu, Qui tollis peccata mundi, Dona eis requiem Sempiternam, sempiternam requiem ! RESURRECTION AND ETERNAL LIFE.
Yeshua in the beginning? Yeshua means God saves. What was there to save, before there was nothing to save? Many have lost their minds, to believe there is something to be saved from. If only man could just be, then darkness shall never fall upon him. Are we darkness living in the light? Its only when you fall, ye shall be caught by the arms of another.
@@menmustchangebeforekingdoms truth is, we need to be saved from the carnal mind of the flesh, and learn from those who strike the heel of your rock, so that we may also walk, in the light of who I am.
@@achildofthelight4725 What ?? You are not "impressing" anyone with your New Age "psycho-babble" statements. YOU need to be SAVED from YOUR SINS BY THE SINLESS BLOOD OF JESUS just like EVERYONE ELSE !!
@@menmustchangebeforekingdoms If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Lesson over. 🤗
@@achildofthelight4725 Every one of your responses has been a "deflection" of your original topic and subject which was, "Many have lost their minds, to believe there is something to be saved from.". You CLEARLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE SINLESS BLOOD OF JESUS IS WHAT "Saves" YOU FROM YOUR SINS....or you would have AGREED.... Class Dismissed !!😵
Logos in the Old Testament The Old Testament (LXX, or Septuagint, the translation of the Old Testament into Greek) use of logos closely matches both standard and special New Testament uses. As with the New Testament, most uses of logos in the Old Testament fit within the standard semantic range of “word” as speech, utterance, or word. The LXX does make regular use of logos to specify the “word of the Lord” (e.g., Isa 1:10Open in Logos Bible Software (if available), where the LXX translates דְבַר־יְהוָ֖ה, davar yahweh), relating to the special proclamation of God in the world. When used this way, logos does not mean the literal words or speech or message of God; instead, it refers to the “dynamic, active communication” of God’s purpose and plan to his people in light of his creative activity.5 The key difference between the Testaments is that there is no personification of logos in the Old Testament indicative of the Messiah. In Proverbs 8, the Old Testament personifies Wisdom (more on this below), leading some to believe this is a precursor to the unique, technical use of logos occurring in the Johannine sections of the New Testament. The significance of Jesus as the Logos Much of what John says about the Logos can be found in Jewish literature about “divine Wisdom.” This means texts where Wisdom is “personified” probably circulated well before John wrote,6 so readers would have had some understanding of the idea behind Jesus as the Logos. “The Wisdom of John,” on the role of the prologue in John’s Gospel (John 1:1Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), the profound truth that Jesus is the Logos who is both divine and human, and what it means that Jesus is the “Wisdom of God” personified:
@@deanlangenfeld495 it's not an English word, even using English lettering. It's the name for G-D that is not allowed to be pronounced in any language.
Barrie's, In the beginning was the word,Jesus is the word The beginning of all creation.Alpha,means beginning.Before Abraham,I was.Crusified from the foundation( beginning) of the worldm
you said in the beginning jesus was the word of God bcoz John said so right?, not God nor his angels said so. so jesus is no more son of God?, lamb of God?, whoch means Jesus is the ten commandments?😂😂😂 lets say... apostle John knows what God will say in the future.😂😂😂 Christianity had said all the lies and don't know which other method to apply.😂😂
@@sharonraffanti3632 "BLASHEMY" ?? I don't think you have any business responding on this page if you don't even know how to "Spell" correctly.... Please tell me what 'BLASHEMY" is ?????
thats the point, you HAVE to INSERT jesus into the text. without it, we don’t know what word is unless you know the greek. Logos is speech, words formed from speech, it is simply referring to the beginning as the intial speech of God. 0% related to jesus
@@Majobri OK then, "the initial speech of God", (who IS God, John 1:1), "became FLESH and dwelt among us" (John 1:14)....feel better now ?? Of course not. Stop "pretending' to be some sort of "teacher' of the NT while "Cherry Picking" the scriptures that you don't even believe in !!
@@menmustchangebeforekingdoms I don’t teach new testament lol. Thank you for walking through why the new testament isn’t biblical. Because IF you take John 1 literally that God became flesh, then that violates Deuteronomy chapters 4 and 5, how God is not physical and cannot have any physical representation. This is why everyone should reject the false teachings of christianity
@@barrys.9040 I think much of this thread was whether AT in Genesis 1:1 is associated with the accusative placed just after God. I'm not convinced, as the A is usually silent and makes no sense before T. I had to retreat while I researched that further. It's ambiguous at best. What I can say at this point is that 'you can't say it is not the Son' appearing with God the Father at the beginning. Without better evidence as to the structure of Hebrew it should be interpreted as the Son participating in the creation. At least you can't prove it wasn't the Son. In Genesis 1:2 we see the first appearance of the Holy Spirit of God. In context with Genesis 1:1 the entire Trinity of God (one God in three persons) is shown to exist before creation. I'm not going to fault others as understanding ancient Hebrew is difficult even for the Scholars. Peace be with you.
No you are adding to it. The only son of G-d is Israel the Mashiach will be part of Israel. Mashiach is not ever called anything but a human in Tanak. You are ignorant of Ivrit.
@@stevelenores5637 yours is just an assumption. Reading the authentic text, which is Hebrew, it clearly says, " In the beginning, G-D created the heavens and the earth.". There was nothing else. You can infer anything you want, but it's just not there. Whatever research from manmade biased flawed translations are meaningless.
@@barrys.9040 You can't make the AT go away. It's right there in the Hebrew. Since you are admitting you can't interpret scripture without the Holy Spirit (not man based) at least you are two thirds of the the way to accepting the Trinity. Gotcha - LOL.
Genesis 1:2 KJV - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the (Spirit) (ruah) of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:26 KJV - And God said, Let (us)(asa) make man in (our image)(selem), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Undeniable proof...
The One True Creator G_d was talking to the multitudes of Angels that G_d had already created. Christianity and English keep mistranslating so much and then they totally misunderstand what they mistranslated and corrupted.
@@YehawaElhayam well G-d uses the plural form of majesty multiple times in the tanakh. Genesis 11 verse 7, let us go down and and confuse their language. But Isaiah 6:8 best supports the idea that G-d was talking the divine beings of heaven. Because G-d said ” Whom shall I send, who will go for us”, and I said, here I am send me.
NEVER was, NEVER will be!! PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, using the Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" or "Koren Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books "Let's Get Biblical - Why Don't Jews Accept the Christian Messiah?", as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why "Christianity" absolutely did NOT come from God!
The entirety of Tanach is divinely inspired, and the giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai was unique because of its direct revelation from God. However, the Torah, the Prophets (Nevi im), and the Writings (Ketuvim) form the Tanach (The Hebrew Bible). It is a sealed” book and completed” book. No other book can be attached to it. The Gospels are not considered part of the divine revelation nor seen as a continuation of the Jewish scriptures as explained above.
@@Raizel613 The Tanakh is not a complete book. The book of Jasher is not in there? What made you think the Gospels are not considered part of the divine revelation ? Your rabbi told you or is it your idea? 1 Tim 3:16 "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, " Heb 4:12 "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Do you know who wrote the book of Genesis and Jonah?
Absolute BLASPHEMY, BLADPHEMY, BLASHEMY! And IDOLATRY! In Exodus 3 the Almighty says specifically that His Name is YHWH. The word that Rome translated as "I am", is FUTURE tense and actually means "I shall be what I shall be". Christianity is built on lies and deceipt, cloaking Rome's ancient religion of Mithraism with lies and twisted Hebrew verses and words.
@@barrys.9040 - See Barry, when you don't have the WITNESS OF GOD'S SPIRIT, like Moses and the Prophets had, the only "proof" you will accept is "natural' proof that you can "see" with your 2 "natural" eyes. This is the VERY REASON that those NOT under the New Covenant yet will NOT KNOW WHO the Messiah is until the "earthly" Prophecies of Isaiah come to pass on the Earth itself regarding the Messiah. Everyone is "born" natural and carnal. We do not become "spiritual" until God does HIS WORK in our "hearts" regarding the New Covenant, "removing our stony heart", "giving us a heart of flesh", so that God can "write His Law in our hearts", and "place His Spirit WITHIN US". When that happens to you Barry, you will NOT NEED to SEE with your 2 "natural" eyes to KNOW, because you will have "spiritual" proof, the Witnes of God Himself on the INSIDE OF YOU.
No. G’d is One. Not three. It took the idolatrous church three centuries to invent the trinity. Do not despair. If your mom is Gentile, obey the Noahide laws. 🕊✡️❤️
No I'm a gentile. You don't understand what one means. You are an individual, one. But you are made of three parts. Your spirit your soul and your body.
@@Vrej-tl4yl Yes, I understand what one is. I am one. You are one. Since you are Gentile (as am I), the seven Noahide laws apply. They are found in the first nine chapters of Genesis. 🕊✡️❤️
A Gentile may not be ordained to teach and expound the Torah, because that is solely the spiritual assignment of the Jews - to be deeply involved in Torah, and to delve into it for the purpose of deciding practical rulings on a Torah-law basis.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Hahahahahahahaa !! How can the Jews have a "spiritual assignment", when they are "Carnal" and NOT "spiritual" yet ?? It is Written: Jesus answered Nicodemas, "How can you be a teacher of Israel and NOT KNOW THESE THINGS ?" (John 3:10)