Elon Musk is Threatened by China 

Twitter never had any credibility regarding free speech. They have actively suppressed any views they don't agree with. Musk is just continuing that tradition (I would argue to lesser extent but with higher publicity) just on the other side of the spectrum.

He has?

He was naive saying that. No social media company can afford free speech because advertisers won’t allow it

@@JanBruunAndersen yes. This is not a controversial thing to say. You cant ban journalists who post things you dont like and then claim you represent free speech

@@megadick6000 - Are you referring to the journalist(s?) who essentially wrote "If you go to this site, then you can follow in real time where Elon is, and be sure to get close to him"?

tbh, i think thats kinda rediculous... nobody in the world expected any freedom from china, you think elon of all people is gonna be expected, after 2 years of the most extreme lockdowns in china, to pop his head out and say something when the rest of the world had mostly forgotten about covid? whole thing about this just seems like cherry picked elon hate, even if they have a point that he cant piss of china.

harsh/fair

Doesn't matter. You don't matter in the end.

False equivalence, China isn't a democracy,if they wanted that they would fight to the nail to have that obviously they Don't, the US on the other hand has fought for it freedom and Built it society on Freedom and power to the people , Do you know what Foreigners hate the most, the big mouth American that thinks they know what's best for Everyone else, Intersecting yourself into an issue you have no right being there, is either Annoying or disrespectful to tbe ppl who live in that country, Tesla isn't tbe only company that operates in china that had to shut down factory over these covid issues, different country different rules, it is what it is. China needs Tesla more than Tesla Needs China.

@@oxide9717 I think you replied on the wrong comment?

Excellent observation.

Amen

arr gosh darn'n liber'y ein't i right fello murican

@@firasahmed5743 "liber'y" 💀

FBI has more offices in foreign countries than Chinese police. Chinese police is there to find Chinese criminals on the run and does the same job as FBI offices. Hypocrisy is a western disease.

What is a police station?

it began long, long ago

ELON is a Chinese slave.

This gonna age badly. SpaceX and Neuralink are the future.

@@ReekyCheeks I said the downfall of Elon. Not the Spacex and Neuralink 😉

@@ReekyCheeks SpaceX kinda, but neuralink is still a failure, it only has Musks hype. Musk does not understand neuroscience, reason why most of the initial investors got out, and he is far behind tech that ALREADY existed at the start of the century. On the top of that he keeps breaking laws in his companies, and is also far behind his main rival in the area People also said "Tesla is the future", thinking it would be the single biggest and most advanced car company in the future, and here they are losing 70% of value, lying about stats and delaying promisses

The difference is that a local government can use its monopoly on violence to enforce its will. Musk/Tesla cannot force anyone to anything.

They aren't getting locked in 😂Average salary of $135,000,I think they could work a little harder than average for that much money. It's close to a profession in medicine with a much lower qualification, add to that they will be earning that amount before the med students finish school. I'm not bashing software engineers they are highly intelligent people, but landing this kind of high paying job as young as the average employee earning this amount at Twitter , you will be sitting very pretty by retirement. Would you say a surgeon is locked up by being paid $200,000 to work 60hours a week after going through 14 years of training?

Tesla sold 1.4 million cars in 2022 and have $22 BIllion in the bank as cash-flow. VW and Toyota have $200 Billion debt, each, and have dwindling car sales, YoY. Shocking decision making.

@@EmyrEvans1 just give it a few more years, and it be bankrupted or bought by another company. Best case for tesla as a company is musk gone in prison and being detached from him.

Yep stupid decisions. that’s why at one point he was the richest man on the planet. 😂 Frankly Musk is a bullsh1t artist. I’ve met his type in IT throughout my career and they are full of sh1t and everything they do is to fuel their own ego and self promotion. He’s not an idiot but he’s no genius either, but you can’t argue with his personal success.

@@davideyres955 he will be in prison in some years, how is that success?

Duh. I mean who names his kid "X" ?

WTF is wrong with you youtube.

They actually did a couple of videos on Tldr Uk and Tldr Global respectivally

I think he's just in the news a lot these days, they do have other content. If u don't click on it they won't make such videos. I personally like them

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What?

Just because you dont agree with an opinion, doesnt make their opinion wrong

@@aaroncousins4750 wow so smart. never heard that one before.

@@homeape. ok? Congrats? Does that somehow make my statement incorrect?

This channel should focus more on business news (like in Reuters' business section), and less on anything about Elon Musk

Though if you were to talk about the Musk and Twitter, it would perhaps behoove you to talk about the alleged leverage the FBI and other agencies had in Twitter.

Not true the US Government goes after whom they wish.

Yes and stock keeps going down another failure coming like X

way too speculative, bad reporting

@@manuelight While I can see an argument for bad reporting thats definetly NOT the reason. Musk can't say anything bad about the chinese gov, and thats the problem he faces. Thats why he faces so much hypocrisy, he even said China making workers live on factories was a thing he wished to see in the US, does not care about freedoom for chinese workers (because aparently a lockdown where you risk LIFE is not bad) and neither does he care for the freedoom of taiwanese people

Because they've sorted it by opening manufacturing capacity in India and Vietnam. Whilst Apple laptops are still based in China, other products aren't. And depending on how things play out, it gives Apple wriggle room to transition out of need be. And every Western corporation has a hypocritical relationship to China. That's why cynicism in the West is growing as Capitalism there lurches from crisis to crisis. Capitalism used to be a nationalist project in Western countries, with each expecting the benefits of their capitalists to flow back to their people, but that is no longer the case with Globalisation. Increasingly profits are being held in international private banks outside the control of national banking systems and regulation. What taxes are paid by those multinational corporations in their home nations are continuously reduced, as their workers rights and compensation is too. they use their political influence to reduce their liability by lobbying. Citizen participation is limited to speculating on the stock market. People in the West realise that in retrospect, that globalised capital is not benefitting national societies as much as they could be. And indeed is creating another locus of political and economic power, unhinged from control by the Nation States that created them, and they don't like it, as it is impoverishing them. And their own capitalists are responsible.

It certainly has influence significantly

So suddenly it is Elons responsibility to change China's behaviour. I can think of a pletora of people and countries that make a much better fit and still they have little to no influence. Oh, but he is a biljonaire and owns one of the dozen social media platforms so he must be the guy right, right?

@@GenuineFlolie "and other things no one has ever said"

Control them remotely....

@@acsilver2777 yep.self drive to places of interest and set the battery on auto destruct.

Finally. I have asking them for months if they can just make a patreon or paid subscription on youtube

That's like complaining that a lot of their news coverage is about the invasion in ukraine, "I get it, it's an easy topic that generates views" or maybe it's an appropriate and relevant topic......

I don't see why you're concerned.

@@tuna5618 Like I said, I understand it's an easy topic because there is so much happening. But there are also so many other things happening related to business. For example, the use of AI in business and what this means for let's say writers or artits in general. Or the fight between Sony and Microsoft about acquisition of Activision Blizzard. Or even if you want to include something Elon/ Tesla related, the implications of sourcing lithium for the electric future. Just to name a few. The world is bigger than Musk and there is definitely a lot more happening than him and Twitter... And I think a lot of viewers agree. The video about who's winning the streaming wars: 500k+ views. Video about Elon losing 800 billion in 2022: 62K views...

@@Emanuel-jr2ii send them an email? Become a patron and ask if you can help as producer? Check the channel: they have 20 videos in total and they don’t post daily: seems to me this is just the place where they dump business related videos instead of clogging their main channel. Your suggestions are great but it takes time and staff to cover those topics and these guys have a lot on their plate atm. Hopefully they will grow in the future.

a public man who makes questionable decisions and constantly deals with conflict of interest is something to report on

Their material is actually quite well researched and pretty nuanced, you sound like you're just mad because they said something mildly critical about musk. You say you aren't a musk fanboy but when someone shows the smallest but of criticism towards musk you cry and cry.

Can you explained what is half researched please? Cause it sounds accurate to me.

I agree, this is a very eye-opening series of videos about their own bias. I unsubbed as well, I thought these videos would be objective. Used to love their objective content but this, this is low-quality biased content with an agenda

It really fills me with doubt all their other content.

​@@tuna5618 ​ What's half-researched? Let's take this video as an example, because it's full of half-assed speculation and a particularly biased interpretation of facts, without any notice that this is the editor's interpretation or pointing out other possible conclusion that can follow from the exact same facts. In the beginning, they claim Musk and/or Tesla's response to China's lockdown was "crickets". In actual fact, the company's response was to spearhead the (morally questionable) practice of having factory workers live in a closed-loop system on the territory of the factory, so it can stay open. They were the first major foreign-owned company to get this allowed for them, after Musk & the company protested the unnecessary restrictions. The only difference is that the form of protest is different - in the U.S. case, stepping on the foundation of freedom of speech and freedom in general, the "public town square" loudspeaker method was used. In China's case, they used a combination of the government's own legal system, personal contacts and public appearances to achieve the same result. This is very far from either "no response" or "agreeing with the government" - it's just that the means are different based on the circumstances. Following that, an insignificant fact is giving a lot of significance and made to appear exceptional - "The Chinese government has given billions of dollars' worth of cheap land, loans, tax breaks and subsidies", as if the CCP hasn't been providing that to all major internationals looking to set up in China, for decades. If anything, in that regard, China has less leverage over Tesla than other manufacturers with Chinese factories, since Tesla China is wholly-owned by Tesla Motors, without the mandatory direct 50% government ownership that other companies are forced to have. Then, TLDR continue by listing out a number of issues with bots, propaganda, censorship and dissident harassment that Twitter had before Musk's acquisition, but without stating that last fact anywhere explicitly - instead, blurring the timeline and blending it into the narrative. Using the latter, TLDR starts building their half-assed strawman argument, stating vaguely that "some" are worried about Musk's "stewardship" of the company. They reinforce this by claiming that the market, the board and the shareholders used to be influencing factors in Twitter's previous decisions - an easily disprovable statement if we look at Twitter's history. The board, which never questioned any of the post-Dorsey CEO decisions - made a number of questionable major decisions tanking the Twitter stock, such as banning DT (which I personally don't care about either way, just to dispel your potential accusations about my bias, and no, I'm not republican), or not doing anything to combat the rampant bot and trolling problem - thus showing they're not influenced by the market or the shareholders anyway. I.e. nothing has changed in that regard because of Musk's ownership, just the agenda of the management. If anything, it has (in words, at least), changed from providing a safe space for center, center-left and left-leaning members of society, to providing a free space for all. TLDR then proceeds to prop up the strawman by quoting a staunchly anti-republican (in anything, regardless of the subject) democrat senator's unbacked personal opinion, then one of Musk's biggest rivals - Jeff Bezos. Backing that up, they present requests from China to Twitter post-acquisition as proof of these quotes, without stating the fact that they were clearly ignored by Twitter. What's worse, they then lean on the "Tesla opening a Xinjang store" fallacy as further proof. This is a very bad faith argument, since this store was opened a year beforehand and is something every single western automaker with a Chinese factory (and a lot of other non-auto brands) have done before Tesla. It's the perfect example of a distorted non-argument presented as fact and proof. Finally, they go on to conclude that "Elon is taking steps to mitigate that Chinese leverage", cementing the narrative that there is such a leverage without having proven so. Whether it's a conscious or subconscious choice, it's a textbook example of how you ruin journalism with writer biases. Furthermore, failing in the "Business" part of "TLDR Business", they claim that the Berlin and Texas factories "aren't likely to reduce the influence of China substantially", which is the exact opposite of what any fundamental analysis would show. If you have 3 current factories (Fremont, Nevada and Shanghai), the Chinese one being 1/2 of the whole company's auto output, and then you build 2 more factories with at least equal capacity to the Chinese one, aimed at fully replacing cars imported from China in their respective locations (Europe in particular), how is that "unlikely to reduce the [alleged] leverage"? To top it all off, they mention Musk's falling net worth as a complicating factor, as if that has every influenced any of his behavior. All in all, as I said, they make a subjective, half-researched, surface-level argument that is a direct opinion piece and has nothing to do with either journalism or business.