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Elvis Presley - The Story Behind Sun Studio's Famous "Slap Back" Echo 

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@jodyguilbeaux8225
@jodyguilbeaux8225 2 года назад
even the tape recorders of the time for commercial use, the ones that anybody could purchase sounded great. in the studio, they did so much with so little. and that in itself was amazing.
@michaelchadwick2254
@michaelchadwick2254 Год назад
But in reality they had worlds more than we have now. It's called SOUL.
@joe6096
@joe6096 2 года назад
The magic created in that studio set the world on fire!
@dalebertdurando1496
@dalebertdurando1496 5 лет назад
I did the same back in the 60's but I fed the echo back into the echo tape machine, It added a very long fade, could go on for almost forever. A lot of singers could benefit with a little echo. Nice bit of history, thanks.
@Maria-qn4yd
@Maria-qn4yd 7 лет назад
THE BEST RECORDINGS WERE MADE HERE, ELVIS YOU'RE THE BEST
@yaboilemonboi5223
@yaboilemonboi5223 2 года назад
I’m more of a Jerry lee Lewis fan. Elvis is pretty good tho
@areyoukind5645
@areyoukind5645 Месяц назад
Elvis sucked. Way too overrated
@davidchapamusicofficial
@davidchapamusicofficial Год назад
Sam was more brilliant than I think he even knew at the time. I love that studio - it still gives me chills when I stand in that studio.
@salmanyusafzai
@salmanyusafzai 7 лет назад
It is amazing. All this history associated with the King and the way they use to record music back then. It is all fascinating stuff. King ❤
@pjriverdale8461
@pjriverdale8461 5 лет назад
So now we know. The interesting thing about Sun productions is after you've heard them a million times is then figuring out WHERE Sam placed the echo mike(as demoed here, an RCA "Varacoustic" ribbon type). The trick is NOT ONLY tape speed alone but placement of the dedicated microphone. Add to that, the idiosyncrasies if a room constructed from RCA plans for a radio studio, instrument placement, especially drums which seemed to be ever changing. Most of the snare sound on the post-Truck Driver sessions is actually a cardboard box so as to pad down sharp attacks that were/are still unfriendly to ribbon microphones. The sounds that were made in that room six decades ago are unique, not easy to replicate and not for nothing, legendary.
@joe6096
@joe6096 2 года назад
It’s believed that RCA engineers were tearing their hair out trying to replicate the Sun sound for Elvis’ first RCA record but couldn’t because their equipment and studio were too good lol
@pjriverdale8461
@pjriverdale8461 2 года назад
@@joe6096 What RCA didn't " get" was that Phillips had mastered his tape echo effect, was using what by 1956 was the lowest level Ampex decks, a general purpose PA mike for the vocals, instructing his pressing plant on exactly the EQ curve he wanted and using the room itself as an instrument. The combination of this imprecision created a perfect product at least as long as the song material was up to the task. The closest any major label got to the Sun "sound " was Capitol Records on the earliest Gene Vincent sessions. As it was, Capitol recorded Vincent at Bradley Studios in Nashville. Owen Bradley operated independently of record labels as a" for- hire" facility. The facility could deliver squeaky clean sounds but at the same time, was utilizing tape echo, no secret by then even at the amateur level. As for RCA, the time honored studio operations of major labels was the best equipment, rooms, staff and a strict 3songs in 4 hours time blocks. The loose and mostly non union influenced Sun( and most other indie's) approach was more organic. Phillips had to be consulted regarding why RCA and " the best of everything" couldn't get results at first. While they never did capture the Sun sound, by letting Presley produce himself during sessions, things began to jell. The last remnant of the tape echo effect on Presley records was the use of Scotty Moore's Butts Echosonic guitar amp which had a rudimentary single repeat echo function built in to it. As for vocals, what RCA tried was a perfectly good and textbook correct method, that of feeding the vocal into a stairwell and then using a microphone at the bottom or top to pickup the reverberation caused by the stairwell. In the original RCA Nashville facility which had been a church previously, the stairwell was the echo chamber. What was different in the RCA approach was the contrast between natural reverberation and that of a mechanically induced "repeat" of the source as used by Phillips. Again, part of the " trick" was exactly where to place the tape echo effect and given the studio's relatively small size, about 18'x36', the amount of " bleed" onto other instruments also was a factor. In contrast, the Presley RCA product was going to be different in construction, feel, instrumentation. Unlike Phillips who was looking for artist/writers from which he could coax a rawer, more primal performance, Presley under RCA was being steered slightly towards a more polished and broader based product which became evident as early as his first album. Additionally, RCA had a larger pool of writers to choose from and had the services of the Bieinstock brothers to vet materials through. In 1956, it was almost unheard of for a major label to use independent producers. A few had become known , the team of Lieber and Stoller being one. For a short period they were associated with Presley, providing songs and piano before Colonel Parker closed ranks on them. The no brainer really would have been for RCA to retain Sam Phillips, and the Sun studio as the production segment. Technical issues could have been resolved by providing equipment and staff if needed. But, much of the Presley story is often things that should have happened but for reasons known only to Parker and Presley, didn't. While Presley more or less produced himself for the remainder of his recording career, doing all manner of songs, his records would never again sound nor feel as cutting edge as they had been at Sun.
@joe6096
@joe6096 2 года назад
@@pjriverdale8461 Holy crap dude! You want people to read your posts cut to the chase man lol….. I have no idea what you just said because it’s too damn long. Cliffs notes version please!
@Sunkenballs12
@Sunkenballs12 10 месяцев назад
@@joe6096what kind of loser cant a minute and a half of text?
@v-g-z3689
@v-g-z3689 4 месяца назад
@@pjriverdale8461Awesome comment, thank you very much!
@alexoliver7570
@alexoliver7570 7 лет назад
MY HEART STILL ACHES AT HIS ABSENCE
@shanedavis3189
@shanedavis3189 4 месяца назад
Id rather listen to Elvis instead of listening to Justin Bieber or The back street boys I did like Boyz 11 men ,they reminded me of The Tempations
@UltraSenseiHoots
@UltraSenseiHoots 7 лет назад
Cool! I always loved the Sun "echo" :)
@nk1000
@nk1000 8 месяцев назад
Amazing! So much inspiring
@plasteredbastard
@plasteredbastard 5 лет назад
Sam Phillips y'all, give it up to the man who heard that sound in his head.
@alejandronieto576
@alejandronieto576 4 года назад
Thanks 4 this!
@ToddLorencUkuleleMusic
@ToddLorencUkuleleMusic 3 года назад
That’s freakin awesome I was at Sun in 1989 and it was truly amazing!
@Gunnerth1
@Gunnerth1 5 лет назад
Pretty awesome!
@erikandersenphoto631
@erikandersenphoto631 Год назад
So cool
@sallysmith4797
@sallysmith4797 7 лет назад
wow I'm early. Love The King!
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio 5 лет назад
Thanks
@RyanScottMoore
@RyanScottMoore 3 года назад
Very cool.
@SuperAtlantis1
@SuperAtlantis1 5 лет назад
Cool
@georgiethumbs2438
@georgiethumbs2438 6 лет назад
All recorded in one take so can you imagine what he sounded like in person? It must have been mind blowing. I don't know how the hell E learned to sing like that. My best guess is he listened to a lot of Dean Martin
@ottofurst4063
@ottofurst4063 3 года назад
They used the time delay between sync and repro head, that´s the trick, not mentioned here...
@digitaldesigner5284
@digitaldesigner5284 Год назад
Good times when recordings were made with all the musicians and singers performing together in the same room in just 1 take. Talent was needed.
@danielupsdell2697
@danielupsdell2697 2 года назад
So cool was in Memphis went to Graceland but could not get inside sun records just saw the outside of it
@brucephoenix3989
@brucephoenix3989 5 лет назад
Notice the Westlake BBSM6 monitor in the back 🎶 🥇
@radionicpowers5938
@radionicpowers5938 Год назад
that WAS way cool thanks
@anthonybarnes
@anthonybarnes 3 года назад
yes
@steamgent4592
@steamgent4592 3 месяца назад
I wish they still used slap back echo it makes music sound 10 times better!
@Lil.Mrs.C
@Lil.Mrs.C 12 дней назад
Wow, I always wondered. When I mentioned it to people, they denied there was anything but one voice. Yes, but with an echo!
@Fmendonca10
@Fmendonca10 4 года назад
Awesome explanation. I did record my single I wrote for Elvis called "Some Kind of Energy" there at Sun using that equipment and the slap back echo effect. It was the first time I had ever tried that and it actually wasn't too easy to adjust to the delay I was hearing on the headphones. It took me some 4 takes to adjust, but Daniel, the awesome sound engineer there at Sun, helped me get it right. Soooo...happy I managed to record something there and using that effect. Epic!!!! Thank you!!!
@SkazaTV
@SkazaTV 7 лет назад
Interesting :)
@nicolasnicolas3155
@nicolasnicolas3155 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing the awesomeness of recording! Question’ for recording would I get a better recording if I purchase something like the TC Helicon and use that for slap back delay or would purchasing a plug-in like galaxy tape echo be a better way to go ?
@Sunkenballs12
@Sunkenballs12 10 месяцев назад
Its not that complicated. Either will work.
@MintyRiverboat-px5jd
@MintyRiverboat-px5jd Год назад
The ultimate magnetic
@concepciongallo229
@concepciongallo229 9 месяцев назад
Traducir en español gracias el inglés no entiendo gracias somos mucho los fans de ❤ELVIS PRESLEY FOREVER GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR BENDICIONES
@rafabern31
@rafabern31 Год назад
Amazing that they would think about echo effect in the 50’s
@kelcarver4851
@kelcarver4851 5 лет назад
I went to sun studio and for me when they found out I was an Elvis fan it turned out to be free they were surprised about me
@KingRiverVlogs
@KingRiverVlogs 3 года назад
You went to record and they let you record for free?
@jokkergar
@jokkergar 3 года назад
@@KingRiverVlogs he never said he went to record
@KingRiverVlogs
@KingRiverVlogs 3 года назад
@@jokkergar oh, I just noticed that.
@JIMMIX7
@JIMMIX7 7 месяцев назад
Hi, have you any idea how they got Elvis's voice so thick in his ballads? I wouldn't think they used to 'double track' in the early days. I can't imagine him singing the same lead vocal twice or even 3 times on seperate tracks.
@Saganite
@Saganite 3 года назад
So would Scotty's amp have had two mics on it, as demonstrated here with vocals, to get the slapback effect?
@imakamera798
@imakamera798 7 лет назад
Where oh where did you get that amazing jacket your wearing ?
@CooManTunes
@CooManTunes 7 лет назад
At a store. Not hard to find stores.
@enricosanchez894
@enricosanchez894 6 лет назад
IMAKAMERA Lansky Brothers on Beale Street.
@dextrosebizarre
@dextrosebizarre 3 года назад
Do you know if it still possible to record there with this gear, or it turned to a kind of museum?
@adamrichards3174
@adamrichards3174 10 месяцев назад
Sun is both a museum in the day and an active (and in demand) studio at night.
@Nirolevy1
@Nirolevy1 3 месяца назад
So if I got it right, the read head was reading what the write head recorded, And the gap between the two heads created this delay
@hakimnbigui5729
@hakimnbigui5729 4 года назад
How cant I reproducte this écho on home studio ?
@sunnydeyaliofficial
@sunnydeyaliofficial 2 года назад
using another mic for echo is so clever.You alrdy get less of direct signal with less bass and highs.Wow
@plasteredbastard
@plasteredbastard 5 лет назад
The flip of that switch was the genesis of rock music as we know it today
@SuperAtlantis1
@SuperAtlantis1 3 месяца назад
Is that why Blue moon of Kentucky sounds echo?
@owenmartin3307
@owenmartin3307 Год назад
Could the band hear the echo while playing or could it only be heard on playback?
@Sunkenballs12
@Sunkenballs12 10 месяцев назад
To my understand, no one had headphones or monitoring in these times.
@davemarshall9153
@davemarshall9153 4 года назад
About how many milliseconds would you say for the short and the long?
@aretee6108
@aretee6108 4 года назад
One of the engineers said the short is 133 ms, and the long is 266 ms.
@vynlazer
@vynlazer 7 лет назад
Lol
@danicabukvic2919
@danicabukvic2919 7 лет назад
💝💝💝💝💝💝💝LJUBLJANA💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
@NormDPlume-mc5dh
@NormDPlume-mc5dh 5 лет назад
This is great but wish you could spend more time demonstrating and explaining context.
@cherrycasino9923
@cherrycasino9923 3 года назад
Mr. Spang, no offense but I guess you got it partly wrong. Your demonstration sure shows a way of generating a sound source for effect purposes without having to deal with mic pops and stuff but I don´t believe that this is what happened at SUN. Two things: Something is wrong with your echo sound, it´s dark and dull sounding, something that wouldnt have happened with Phillips or Clement at SUN. They were for hi-fi. Secondly, Phillips wouldnt have wasted a precious microphone input for this. The technique is much more simple and works like an ordinary "effect send and return" path. Somehow Phillips managed to modify one or more microphone channels and split their signal, one for the actual session recorder, one for the slave echo machine. Phillips had a reputation of being quite good with technical things… or maybe his RCA consolette had this feature built in anyway? To create the delay effect he simply made use of the time delay between recording head and playback head and fed the playback signal of the echo slave machine back to the desk. There he could blend the echo signal with the original dry signal. As simple as that, no additional microphone. Could you tell us where your theory comes from? Sam Phillips may have found out about this accidentally before he made professional use of it and it sure happened to many engineers during sessions when they forgot to turn down or mute the tape playback channels on the desk after listening to a take very loud and hit the record button. Hell breaks loose, I´m telling you…
@customrecordingco
@customrecordingco 3 года назад
Matt’s demonstration absolutely occurred at Sun. Sam utilized two main techniques for echo pre mid 1956. The first was the “local mic” method demonstrated here by Matt. The second was the “feedback” method where the output of the RCA console is fed into the tape machine input and the tape machine output is fed back into the console. These techniques were both used during the Elvis sessions. Post mid 1956, Sam and Jack had a repeater coil sub mixer built which allowed each mic’d source to be sent to the echo producing tape machine. Variations of each technique (often combined) were used throughout the tenure at 706 Union Ave.
@Sunkenballs12
@Sunkenballs12 10 месяцев назад
This is documented. A second mic was used, Sam called it the "local mic" method.
@cherrycasino9923
@cherrycasino9923 7 месяцев назад
Documented where and when? Did Sam Phillips himself ever talk about using this technique? Did Elvis or Cash? I never saw any SUN-session pictures showing this amazing "local mic" method, it´s always only one vocal mic in the pictures that exist. What are your sources? @@Sunkenballs12
@dannysullivan6921
@dannysullivan6921 2 года назад
All mono sound..
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